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Lead - vs steel

Gerard Mittelstaedt
 

Steel is heavy - but use enough of it and you may have to
deal with magnetic compass deviation. 
Deviation tables anyone ?

Then perhaps you out west could get the Hanford site to
give you some depleted uranium - that stuff is really heavy.  (joke)

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Re: Navionics

Pete Leenhouts
 

Well, that tutorial works for me, John, thank you! 

Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
To: oregoncoots <oregoncoots@groups.io>
Cc: TSCA Puget Sound <TSCA-Puget@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Navionics

Another mini-tutorial, this one for Dan in Almostcanada. He asked me how
to unclutter the depth display after Mary sold him her tablet and I set
him up on Navionics via long-distance telephone. "I could show you in a
couple of minutes, but it'd take an hour to tell you over the phone, if
that'd work at all to pound it into your Luddite skull." <g>

Lets hope this works. How to adjust depth detail:


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Re: Lead

Pete Leenhouts
 

Maybe steel shot or scrap embedded in a slurry of epoxy or concrete? "Bricks" of scrap steel?  I wonder what might turn up with a note on Craigs List or Next Door?

Pete 


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From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
To: oregoncoots <oregoncoots@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Lead

Worth a shot.

Sorry. But try to find lead shot nowadays. ;o)

I forgot to mention that the biggest metal recycler in Eugene,
Schnitzer's, doesn't handle lead at all!

On 3/20/2020 6:57 PM, Case wrote:
> I think, unless he got rid of all of it, Andrew Linn had a pile of lead. I know he offered it up a bit ago. Maybe he still has iit.
>

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Re: Navionics

Pete Leenhouts
 

Heh - that gives me a cushion, so that I am more aware when I am in shallower water. I was much less concerned in BLUE STAR (40 inch draft) than I am in RIPTIDE (5 foot draft). I am finding it surprisingly challenging to get used to being in close to land in a boat! (grin)

Pete

As you zoom in to the chart, as you would when approaching a dangerous
area, the red dots in dangerously shoal water become more apparent. See
attachment.

I don't see any dangerously shoal depths until you get right up near the
entrance to the Boat Haven. <shrug> I don't yet know what those
scattered red dots mean, but they aren't a warning...

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthShading.pdf

BTW, why do you not feel comfortable unless you've got 50' of depth?
Riptide isn't a frigate, after all. ;o)



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From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
To: oregoncoots <oregoncoots@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Mar 21, 2020 7:01 pm
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Navionics

As you zoom in to the chart, as you would when approaching a dangerous
area, the red dots in dangerously shoal water become more apparent. See
attachment.

I don't see any dangerously shoal depths until you get right up near the
entrance to the Boat Haven. <shrug> I don't yet know what those
scattered red dots mean, but they aren't a warning...

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthShading.pdf

BTW, why do you not feel comfortable unless you've got 50' of depth?
Riptide isn't a frigate, after all. ;o)

On 3/18/2020 7:23 PM, Pete L wrote:
> ...
> Interestingly, I've made the approach into the Port Townsend Boat Haven
> many times from the south, and have never run into dangerous depths
> during the approach as shown on that Navionics example.
>
> On a slightly different topic, the red dots are difficult to see and are
> not standard charting practice (at least, not the USN standards,
> anyway). We always lined off danger depths in black pen to show where
> not to go. It would be helpful to have the dangerous area shaded red,
> perhaps, or barred red. Just my opinion, though.

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Re: I GOTTA Get Rid of this Trailer

Richard Green
 

Forgot to mention, the six foot tongue I have is 3X3.

Rich

On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Dan <danashore@...> wrote:

Hey, John:  Nothing like a bit of Bondo, a can of Rustoleum Regal Red, and mebbee a replacement for that hunk ‘a red fir shim stock up front—good as new.  And, that one-uva-kind modification to the tire rim is pretty snazzy.  I think I only have ONE trailer in the inventory here at Frankenwerke that still has the original logo.  Makes your S/L almost-new by comparison.  Stay well, y’alls.  Dan.


Re: I GOTTA Get Rid of this Trailer

Dan
 

Hey, John:  Nothing like a bit of Bondo, a can of Rustoleum Regal Red, and mebbee a replacement for that hunk ‘a red fir shim stock up front—good as new.  And, that one-uva-kind modification to the tire rim is pretty snazzy.  I think I only have ONE trailer in the inventory here at Frankenwerke that still has the original logo.  Makes your S/L almost-new by comparison.  Stay well, y’alls.  Dan.


Re: Real Computer Program to Use with Navionics

George C
 

I haven't tried it myself, but since it doesn't have detailed Canadian charts, I will have to load them. From my understanding, there are two ways.

You can use the Scanned Maps feature in ExpertGPS to display digital
charts, USGS DRGs, or your own scanned paper maps. There is a procedure to prepare and geo-reference your maps for use within the program.

Also, it allows you to view street maps, topo maps, aerial photos, and nautical charts. It relies on various Internet map servers to provide these mapping services. You can override the default map services in ExpertGPS to access your own preferred map servers.



On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 5:13:02 PM PDT, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:


I just got around to looking at ExpertGPS, and the description on the
Web page is impressive. But how do you get NOAA charts into the program?

On 3/17/2020 12:01 PM, George C wrote:
> John,
>
> I have been using ExpertGPS on my PC to look at charts, create trip
> plans, create waypoints and routes to be uploaded to my Garmin, and then
> download the tracks from the Garmin to the software. I has detailed US
> Nautical charts built in and you can load your own charts.
> Unfortunately, it only has a 30day free trial period then you have to
> pay $75. It seems to be a one man operation, but the owner has been good
> at answering my questions.
>
> ExpertGPS - GPS Mapping Software for Garmin, Magellan, Lowrance, Eagle
> GPS
https://www.expertgps.com/

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Re: I GOTTA Get Rid of this Trailer

Richard Green
 

I don’t want the trailer but I have a six foot galvanized tongue leftover from a prior boat trailer. I want to get rid of it. It is in very good condition, I replaced it with an eight foot tongue.

Happy to throw it into the mix should someone want it for a trailer with a rotted out tongue.

Rich in McMinnville

On Mar 22, 2020, at 6:26 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

I've been meaning to work harder to get rid of the old Shoreland'r boat trailer in my front yard. I waited too long. <sigh> Apparently some roving, off-the-leash, trailer at large seduced my poor little Shoreland'r, and as a result I came home yesterday to find she'd had a couple of offspring. One day these little tikes will grow up to be boat trailers themselves -- unless the father was a utility or travel trailer, then who knows what kind of mutts they'll turn out to be. <g>

Anyway. I've gotta get rid of the trailer before something like this happens again. The trailer is free, please come and get it. But I'd appreciate it if you gave me a little something for the slightly used tires.

The tongue is rotted out, but I think the rest of the trailer is alright. I used to rinse it by dunking it in the lake, but the end of the tongue wouldn't get dunked. <sigh> A Harbor Freight tongue is spliced in now to make the trailer safe enough to move. The LED lights worked last time I used the thing. Good fenders. I think I've got a winch that I'll throw in that only needs a pawl spring. You gotta take the babies too. <g>

Come get it in Eugene. If it isn't gone soon it's going to the scrapyard.

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I GOTTA Get Rid of this Trailer

 

I've been meaning to work harder to get rid of the old Shoreland'r boat trailer in my front yard. I waited too long. <sigh> Apparently some roving, off-the-leash, trailer at large seduced my poor little Shoreland'r, and as a result I came home yesterday to find she'd had a couple of offspring. One day these little tikes will grow up to be boat trailers themselves -- unless the father was a utility or travel trailer, then who knows what kind of mutts they'll turn out to be. <g>

Anyway. I've gotta get rid of the trailer before something like this happens again. The trailer is free, please come and get it. But I'd appreciate it if you gave me a little something for the slightly used tires.

The tongue is rotted out, but I think the rest of the trailer is alright. I used to rinse it by dunking it in the lake, but the end of the tongue wouldn't get dunked. <sigh> A Harbor Freight tongue is spliced in now to make the trailer safe enough to move. The LED lights worked last time I used the thing. Good fenders. I think I've got a winch that I'll throw in that only needs a pawl spring. You gotta take the babies too. <g>

Come get it in Eugene. If it isn't gone soon it's going to the scrapyard.

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Real Computer Program to Use with Navionics

 

I just got around to looking at ExpertGPS, and the description on the Web page is impressive. But how do you get NOAA charts into the program?

On 3/17/2020 12:01 PM, George C wrote:
John,
I have been using ExpertGPS on my PC to look at charts, create trip plans, create waypoints and routes to be uploaded to my Garmin, and then download the tracks from the Garmin to the software. I has detailed US Nautical charts built in and you can load your own charts. Unfortunately, it only has a 30day free trial period then you have to pay $75. It seems to be a one man operation, but the owner has been good at answering my questions.
ExpertGPS - GPS Mapping Software for Garmin, Magellan, Lowrance, Eagle GPS
https://www.expertgps.com/

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Re: Thursday lunch

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

Thanks John.
The problem is I think we’re all a bit in the dark still on how quickly it will spread with the measures we’ve put in place and whether we’re being cautious enough or not only time will tell. Whether there is a significant airborne component or not is unfortunately hard to know at this stage.
-Jove

On Mar 21, 2020, at 4:56 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

Good info, Jove. Thanks for sharing it. It's scary that the coronavirus survives so well in the air. For years I'd been told that, even though getting sneezed or coughed on is the surest way to catch them, bugs like the flu and colds are mostly passed on through secondary contact -- touching a surface infested with the virus and then picking your nose or rubbing your eye. Hence the emphasis on washing your hands (works for another nasty too, norovirus). The new coronavirus is a relative of some of the viruses that cause the common cold, so maybe we need to change the way we try to avoid colds too.

At any rate, keep washing your hands, and take care of yourselves.

On 3/19/2020 1:28 PM, Jove wrote:
There is increasing evidence of an airborne component so it's wise to be out in open air, or have doors open if you have people over. And no-one with a cough should attend.
my 2c. Have fun. Boats are a heart warming and beautiful distraction which is probably good for your health.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces?fbclid=IwAR0ZxxJDmAvWWrxye6-QJu_X4y0mfquFk9imtG45w0pxZ05GjoDkYFSDC10

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Re: Navionics

 

Another mini-tutorial, this one for Dan in Almostcanada. He asked me how to unclutter the depth display after Mary sold him her tablet and I set him up on Navionics via long-distance telephone. "I could show you in a couple of minutes, but it'd take an hour to tell you over the phone, if that'd work at all to pound it into your Luddite skull." <g>

Lets hope this works. How to adjust depth detail:

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthContours.pdf

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Navionics

 

Forgot to CC this...

As you zoom in to the chart, as you would when approaching a dangerous area, the red dots in dangerously shoal water become more apparent. See attachment.

I don't see any dangerously shoal depths until you get right up near the entrance to the Boat Haven. <shrug> I don't yet know what those scattered red dots mean, but they aren't a warning...

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthShading.pdf

BTW, why do you not feel comfortable unless you've got 50' of depth? Riptide isn't a frigate, after all. ;o)

On 3/18/2020 7:23 PM, Pete L wrote:
...
Interestingly, I've made the approach into the Port Townsend Boat Haven many times from the south, and have never run into dangerous depths during the approach as shown on that Navionics example.
On a slightly different topic, the red dots are difficult to see and are not standard charting practice (at least, not the USN standards, anyway). We always lined off danger depths in black pen to show where not to go. It would be helpful to have the dangerous area shaded red, perhaps, or barred red. Just my opinion, though.
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Re: Navionics

 

As you zoom in to the chart, as you would when approaching a dangerous area, the red dots in dangerously shoal water become more apparent. See attachment.

I don't see any dangerously shoal depths until you get right up near the entrance to the Boat Haven. <shrug> I don't yet know what those scattered red dots mean, but they aren't a warning...

http://www.coots.org/navstuff/DepthShading.pdf

BTW, why do you not feel comfortable unless you've got 50' of depth? Riptide isn't a frigate, after all. ;o)

On 3/18/2020 7:23 PM, Pete L wrote:
...
Interestingly, I've made the approach into the Port Townsend Boat Haven many times from the south, and have never run into dangerous depths during the approach as shown on that Navionics example.
On a slightly different topic, the red dots are difficult to see and are not standard charting practice (at least, not the USN standards, anyway). We always lined off danger depths in black pen to show where not to go. It would be helpful to have the dangerous area shaded red, perhaps, or barred red. Just my opinion, though.
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Re: Thursday lunch

 

Good info, Jove. Thanks for sharing it. It's scary that the coronavirus survives so well in the air. For years I'd been told that, even though getting sneezed or coughed on is the surest way to catch them, bugs like the flu and colds are mostly passed on through secondary contact --
touching a surface infested with the virus and then picking your nose or rubbing your eye. Hence the emphasis on washing your hands (works for another nasty too, norovirus). The new coronavirus is a relative of some of the viruses that cause the common cold, so maybe we need to change the way we try to avoid colds too.

At any rate, keep washing your hands, and take care of yourselves.

On 3/19/2020 1:28 PM, Jove wrote:
There is increasing evidence of an airborne component so it's wise to be out in open air, or have doors open if you have people over. And no-one with a cough should attend.
my 2c. Have fun. Boats are a heart warming and beautiful distraction which is probably good for your health.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces?fbclid=IwAR0ZxxJDmAvWWrxye6-QJu_X4y0mfquFk9imtG45w0pxZ05GjoDkYFSDC10

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Re: Lead

 

Worth a shot.

Sorry. But try to find lead shot nowadays. ;o)

I forgot to mention that the biggest metal recycler in Eugene, Schnitzer's, doesn't handle lead at all!

On 3/20/2020 6:57 PM, Case wrote:
I think, unless he got rid of all of it, Andrew Linn had a pile of lead. I know he offered it up a bit ago. Maybe he still has iit.
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Re: Thursday lunch

Jhcalbany@aol.com
 

See there John, I knew the Coots were smarter than most people; if you have a cold, stay home.
Actually It was only Dennis, Bob L & me. We got the boat looking, lies told & lunch ate. All without getting too close to each other. cool visit.
Jim


Anybody want a Puddle Duck??

MylesJ Swift
 

Daffy Duck is for sale. I was getting ready to build SCAMP when I found a year old one for cost of materials (sorry David). I'll sell the Duck all at once or piece by piece. The hull and trailer are $250 each. The sailing gear is  $350 The electric boat gear is $300.  If you want everything the asking price is $1,000 less 20% for Coots. I need to make room, SCAMP will be here in the next couple of days. I live in Florence now.
Here is the craigslist link.  https://oregoncoast.craigslist.org/boa/d/florence-small-sailboat-power-boat/7093359799.html


Re: Lead

Case Turner
 

I think, unless he got rid of all of it, Andrew Linn had a pile of lead. I know he offered it up a bit ago. Maybe he still has iit.

Case

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On Mar 20, 2020, at 6:22 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

Wheel weights haven't been made out of lead for years. I got snookered when I was scrounging lead for Lazy Jack's trimming ballast. I bought a bucket of wheel weights, only to discover that at least half of them wouldn't melt in Sparkin' Joe's furnace, even when we got the crucible up to red hot! <sigh>

Earl tried a recycler in Eugene, but they would only sell lead to a licensed business.

On 3/20/2020 8:00 AM, Cal wrote:
Hi, Earl ,,, try calling the several recyclers in the valley as well. Tire stores might also be a source, I would call the offices of I 5 tires, or your local tire store, then might offer to pick up and pay for the lead wheel weights, as a one time need, or ask for their pick up source if they have one.
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Re: Lead

 

Wheel weights haven't been made out of lead for years. I got snookered when I was scrounging lead for Lazy Jack's trimming ballast. I bought a bucket of wheel weights, only to discover that at least half of them wouldn't melt in Sparkin' Joe's furnace, even when we got the crucible up to red hot! <sigh>

Earl tried a recycler in Eugene, but they would only sell lead to a licensed business.

On 3/20/2020 8:00 AM, Cal wrote:
Hi, Earl ,,,  try calling the several recyclers in the valley as well. Tire stores might also be a source, I would call the offices of I 5 tires, or your local tire store, then might offer to pick up and pay for the lead wheel weights, as a one time need, or ask for their pick up source if they have one.
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