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Re: Columbia trip, take 2

 

Good Idea. It probably always was a bad idea to have the September messabout so soon after the Port Townsend Festival anyway, though this year only Earl was affected.

My Merc parts... When I ordered them almost three weeks ago they were all listed as "in stock", but after a while I got a message saying the manufacturer had changed their delivery date (wait! if they were in stock what does the manufacturer have to do with it?) and now I could expect the parts on September 10th (today). After a long silence I got a message this morning saying my parts were shipped yesterday and I should expect them to arrive on September 14th. We'll see... <sigh> Too late to do the originally scheduled messabout. I hope they get here before the rescheduled messabout. <g>

On 9/9/2021 7:11 PM, Mark N wrote:
Okay, then. It appears next week's try at a cruise to a non-existent messabout is not going to happen.  As an alternative, Lee suggested the week of the 27th and maybe going upstream from a Portland site. That would work for me and it sounds like Myles could make it, too.
...
John do you have any inkling of a delivery date?  If your part arrives in time, would that week work for you?
...
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Re: Boating Books

Larry Barker
 

Sounds good, I'm happy if they can be used.   John, I'll touch base next time I head north - may be a while - and we'll see how best to hand them off.  See you all one of these times.
-- Larry


Re: Columbia trip, take 2

elaineginader
 

Hi Mark,
The sound of going up river sounds great to me. Do we have a schedule in mind? If nothing else I can possibly make it to part of it. Bell Starr has a great 9.9 Honda in well motor. The 27th also sounds good. I still can't make it during the week. I'd need to know if there's moorage fees at any of the stops.

Elaine

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021, 7:11 PM Mark Neuhaus <moonlitturtle1934@...> wrote:
Hi folks,

Okay, then. It appears next week's try at a cruise to a non-existent messabout is not going to happen.  As an alternative, Lee suggested the week of the 27th and maybe going upstream from a Portland site. That would work for me and it sounds like Myles could make it, too.

I can see gathering at Sand Island and going downstream for a night (Martin Island lagoon, Kalama, Walker Island float?) and come back for a night and then heading upstream (Fred's Marina, Government Island, Camas?) for a night or two. However many nights we go in either direction, we would end up back at Sand Island. I believe the Sand Island campground ($) is still open (year-round?)  and that would allow non-cabin boats to attend, if so desired.

By going both directions from Sand Island, maybe someone who can't make the whole trip can come for half of it?

John do you have any inkling of a delivery date?  If your part arrives in time, would that week work for you?

Earl, would the scenario fit your schedule?

Elaine, could you bring Belle Star down or camp on the island if someone shuttled you over?

Bob L., any interest?

Anybody else?

Or any other thoughts/ideas?

Mark


Columbia trip, take 2

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi folks,

Okay, then. It appears next week's try at a cruise to a non-existent messabout is not going to happen.  As an alternative, Lee suggested the week of the 27th and maybe going upstream from a Portland site. That would work for me and it sounds like Myles could make it, too.

I can see gathering at Sand Island and going downstream for a night (Martin Island lagoon, Kalama, Walker Island float?) and come back for a night and then heading upstream (Fred's Marina, Government Island, Camas?) for a night or two. However many nights we go in either direction, we would end up back at Sand Island. I believe the Sand Island campground ($) is still open (year-round?)  and that would allow non-cabin boats to attend, if so desired.

By going both directions from Sand Island, maybe someone who can't make the whole trip can come for half of it?

John do you have any inkling of a delivery date?  If your part arrives in time, would that week work for you?

Earl, would the scenario fit your schedule?

Elaine, could you bring Belle Star down or camp on the island if someone shuttled you over?

Bob L., any interest?

Anybody else?

Or any other thoughts/ideas?

Mark


Re: Attempting to read the tea leaves...Columbia trip

Myles Twete
 

Hi Mark-

That works for me…just back from a few days at the coast myself and back has been killing me, so the idea of doing a week on my boat starting next week makes my back hurt more J .  While they also are opening up the river for fishing again beginning Saturday, it’s only from St. Helens upstream to Bonneville.

Lower Columbia River salmon fishery upstream of Warrior Rock to reopen Sept. 11 (state.or.us)

 

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Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Attempting to read the tea leaves...Columbia trip

 

Hello folks, 

On Thursday, September 9, 2021, Dan <danashore@...> wrote:

OK…so who has the lead on this one?  I come for the company, and don’t otherwise know anybody in Cathlamet.  If John is watching for the UPS driver, Elaine and Earl are out; who is still going?  Dan

 

I called Dan and we discussed several things, and when all was said and done, he came to the conclusion that it was best for him not to make the trip.

 

So, I  am once again proposing a delay for the gathering. A week or so later when parts come in, obligations don't get in the way, and everyone is rested up from previous trips?  Maybe keep this one closer to Portland and not quite as long, timewise and lengthwise? Wait until next year?

 

Mark


Re: Boating Books

Hank
 

Wondering what happened to the Coot library at Toledo idea.  I have a box of Coot books that are in the way of my downsizing, too.

Hank Burroughs

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 11:36 AM Larry Barker <ore540@...> wrote:

Greetings, it's been years since I've been to any of the Coots' activities but thought of you all when this came up.   
Back in the day when we had a larger boat I collected a bunch of books - I love books.  Now clearing out the bookcases and decided it was time for some of them to go.  I'm keeping a few to use just in case our SW Oregon lakes ever return but these do need to go.   Library isn't taking donations these days and I'm afraid there just aren't many sailors down this way.  Hate to see them go in the trash.
I get up to the Willamette Valley several times a year and could drop them off if someone (John?) wanted to keep or distribute them.  Just let me know if there's any interest and I'll get them there.  I'd like to think that some day the creeks will rise, the smoke will clear, the days of masks will pass and we'll join you folks on your northern waters again.

-- Larry Barker

The list:

Boat Building & Rigging
-----------------------
Sail's Things That Work (100 improvements)
From a Bare Hull, Mate 1976 (Based on a Westsail 32)
Ultralight Boatbuilding, Hill
Build the instant Catboat, Payson
Sailor's Sketchbook, Bingham (small projects)
Sailmaker's Apprentice, Marino (everything you wanted to know)
This old Boat, Casey (restoring & refitting an old fiberglass boat)
Marine Diesel Engines, Calder

How To Sail 
-----------
Sailing in Windy Weather, Richard Henderson
Small Boat Sailing, Sports Illustrated, David & Brad Dellenhaugh
Nigel Calder's Cruising Handbook

Cruising Stories
----------------
(I'm sure I have more somewhere but haven't found them yet)
Beyond the West Horizon, Hiscock
Around the World in Wanderer III, Hiscock
Northwest Passages, Bruce Calhoun 1969

Navigation
----------
American Practical Navigator, Bowditch 1962
Sight Reduction Tables for Air Navigation Latitudes 39-89, Declinations 0-29 (Pub No 249, Vol 3)

Cruising Guides
---------------
(These are older, mostly from the 1990s)
A Cruising Guide to Puget Sound, Scherer 1995
Boating Guide to the Lower Columbia & Willamette Rivers (Oregon State Marine Board, etc.) 1992
Gunkholing in Desolation Sound and Princess Louisa, Bailey-Cummings 1989
Border Boating (San Juan & Gulf Islands), Bultmann 1979
Cruising the Columbia & Snake Rivers, Nelson & LeMieux 1986
Exploring Vancouver Island's West Coast, Douglass 1994
Cruising Guide to British Columbia Vol 2, Desolation Sound & Discovery Islands, Wolferstan 1994
Cruising Guide to British Columbia Vol 2, Sunshile Coast, Wolferstan 1994


Re: Attempting to read the tea leaves...Columbia trip

Lee Tapper
 

later would be better for me, the week of the 27th for example. Although I have no issue with the current ports of call, if we want to to up river portland --> government island ---> camas  can be a nice trip.


Re: Attempting to read the tea leaves...Columbia trip

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hello folks, 

On Thursday, September 9, 2021, Dan <danashore@...> wrote:

OK…so who has the lead on this one?  I come for the company, and don’t otherwise know anybody in Cathlamet.  If John is watching for the UPS driver, Elaine and Earl are out; who is still going?  Dan


I called Dan and we discussed several things, and when all was said and done, he came to the conclusion that it was best for him not to make the trip.

So, I  am once again proposing a delay for the gathering. A week or so later when parts come in, obligations don't get in the way, and everyone is rested up from previous trips?  Maybe keep this one closer to Portland and not quite as long, timewise and lengthwise? Wait until next year?

Mark


Re: Boating Books

 

The floating library in Toledo is still in the works. maybe this winter it'll get off the ground, so to speak. That'll be the home for the Coot Library books. The Retired Old Geezers have a good, dry place where they've already got a bunch of books waiting. I'll forward Larry's offer to them. I can handle getting Larry's books to Toledo, if he can't. I don't have room for any more books here! <g>

On 9/9/2021 11:41 AM, David G wrote:
That's a lovely collection. I really hope we can figure out a way to get them into the Coot Library, or parceled out to individuals if John doesn't want them for the library.
When I am a bit more comfortable with public contact, and we start having in-person messabouts as we used to, I've got some books from Pat Patteson and some from DennisMac that need to find homes also.
I hope that day comes soon! I miss our events. I miss the Coots. Yes... even the misguided sort that live on the Wrong Side Of The Mountains... <G>
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Re: Attempting to read the tea leves...Columbia trip

 

Tohatsu/Mercury 9.9. I tried a different online parts dealer than I'd used before. Won't use them again... But they are genuine Mercury parts, so maybe they're stuck on a ship from Japan waiting to unload... <sigh> I think I spotted that trailer jack I ordered long before the Salish 100 sitting on this ship waiting to get into Tacoma to unload: <g>

https://flic.kr/p/2mh2tWi

Interesting chunk of brass. I don't have any idea what it is. Why didn't you buy it, Brian? ;o)

On 9/9/2021 12:00 PM, Brian G wrote:
John, Is that a 9.9 Honda that needs parts? Well that's a bummer.
The other day I bought a small brass port light off of Craigslist. While I was scanning the shop there I noticed this object...can anyone identify it...if you identify it let me know. It brass and stands about 4' high.
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Re: Attempting to read the tea leves...Columbia trip

Brian Gage
 

John, Is that a 9.9 Honda that needs parts? Well that's a bummer.

The other day I bought a small brass port light off of Craigslist. While I was scanning the shop there I noticed this object...can anyone identify it...if you identify it let me know. It brass and stands about 4' high. 
B.G.


Re: Boating Books

Case Turner
 

Didn’t they start a library at the boat houses in Toledo? 

Case

Sent from not here

On Sep 9, 2021, at 11:41 AM, David Graybeal via groups.io <harbordavid@...> wrote:



That's a lovely collection. I really hope we can figure out a way to get them into the Coot Library, or parceled out to individuals if John doesn't want them for the library.

 

When I am a bit more comfortable with public contact, and we start having in-person messabouts as we used to, I've got some books from Pat Patteson and some from DennisMac that need to find homes also. 

 

I hope that day comes soon! I miss our events. I miss the Coots. Yes... even the misguided sort that live on the Wrong Side Of The Mountains... <G>


Re: Boating Books

David Graybeal
 

That's a lovely collection. I really hope we can figure out a way to get them into the Coot Library, or parceled out to individuals if John doesn't want them for the library.

 

When I am a bit more comfortable with public contact, and we start having in-person messabouts as we used to, I've got some books from Pat Patteson and some from DennisMac that need to find homes also. 

 

I hope that day comes soon! I miss our events. I miss the Coots. Yes... even the misguided sort that live on the Wrong Side Of The Mountains... <G>


Boating Books

Larry Barker
 

Greetings, it's been years since I've been to any of the Coots' activities but thought of you all when this came up.   
Back in the day when we had a larger boat I collected a bunch of books - I love books.  Now clearing out the bookcases and decided it was time for some of them to go.  I'm keeping a few to use just in case our SW Oregon lakes ever return but these do need to go.   Library isn't taking donations these days and I'm afraid there just aren't many sailors down this way.  Hate to see them go in the trash.
I get up to the Willamette Valley several times a year and could drop them off if someone (John?) wanted to keep or distribute them.  Just let me know if there's any interest and I'll get them there.  I'd like to think that some day the creeks will rise, the smoke will clear, the days of masks will pass and we'll join you folks on your northern waters again.

-- Larry Barker

The list:

Boat Building & Rigging
-----------------------
Sail's Things That Work (100 improvements)
From a Bare Hull, Mate 1976 (Based on a Westsail 32)
Ultralight Boatbuilding, Hill
Build the instant Catboat, Payson
Sailor's Sketchbook, Bingham (small projects)
Sailmaker's Apprentice, Marino (everything you wanted to know)
This old Boat, Casey (restoring & refitting an old fiberglass boat)
Marine Diesel Engines, Calder

How To Sail 
-----------
Sailing in Windy Weather, Richard Henderson
Small Boat Sailing, Sports Illustrated, David & Brad Dellenhaugh
Nigel Calder's Cruising Handbook

Cruising Stories
----------------
(I'm sure I have more somewhere but haven't found them yet)
Beyond the West Horizon, Hiscock
Around the World in Wanderer III, Hiscock
Northwest Passages, Bruce Calhoun 1969

Navigation
----------
American Practical Navigator, Bowditch 1962
Sight Reduction Tables for Air Navigation Latitudes 39-89, Declinations 0-29 (Pub No 249, Vol 3)

Cruising Guides
---------------
(These are older, mostly from the 1990s)
A Cruising Guide to Puget Sound, Scherer 1995
Boating Guide to the Lower Columbia & Willamette Rivers (Oregon State Marine Board, etc.) 1992
Gunkholing in Desolation Sound and Princess Louisa, Bailey-Cummings 1989
Border Boating (San Juan & Gulf Islands), Bultmann 1979
Cruising the Columbia & Snake Rivers, Nelson & LeMieux 1986
Exploring Vancouver Island's West Coast, Douglass 1994
Cruising Guide to British Columbia Vol 2, Desolation Sound & Discovery Islands, Wolferstan 1994
Cruising Guide to British Columbia Vol 2, Sunshile Coast, Wolferstan 1994


Re: Attempting to read the tea leaves...Columbia trip

Dan
 

OK…so who has the lead on this one?  I come for the company, and don’t otherwise know anybody in Cathlamet.  If John is watching for the UPS driver, Elaine and Earl are out; who is still going?  Dan


Re: Reminder: Coots Lunch Tomorrow

Bob Larkin
 

Count me in, Bob


Re: Coot Clubhouse?

 

Some years ago something I'd always dreaded might happen while I was getting to my spot for the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival happened -- I bumped into one of the big, expensive yachts. A Trumpy. I went over and apologized, and meekly accepted a dressing sown from the Trumpy's owner. He was a bit full of himself. I had to bite my tongue when he got to the part where he said that if the special paint he'd had put on the topsides got scratched or nicked, it couldn't be touched up, he'd have to have the whole side of the (Big) boat painted! I desperately wanted to say, "that sure is lousy paint! If I get a scratch in the latex house paint I use on my boat I just wash the spot and slap some more on, and after a while nobody even notices the touch-up." ;o)

On 9/6/2021 4:43 PM, Gerard M wrote:
I promised not to look at boats that I could not afford to paint.
Sometimes I look anyway.
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Re: September Messabout?

 

A honeymoon! :o) Congratulations, Rich!

On 9/7/2021 8:08 AM, Rich G wrote:
While scarcely going anywhere, neither will I be at the Columbia Messabout as currently on honeymoon lasting some several days more.
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Re: Attempting to read the tea leves...Columbia trip

 

I'm afraid I'm a "maybe" right now. I ordered some parts for Lazy Jack's outboard over the Interweb and they're taking _forever_ to get here. <sigh> If they get here by the weekend, and the surgery is a success, I'll be raring to go. :o) If not...

On 9/8/2021 4:50 PM, Dan in Almostcanada wrote:
Dan, Jamie and Walkabout have been expecting to meet up with the Coot
cortege at Sand island on or about a week hence. We have managed to defer
some difficult-to-resked appointments, and made some extensive
repairs/exploratory surgical procedures to our running gear, as well. But.
I'm beginning to wonder about the prospects of a quorum from the locals.
We missed the Toledo fete as a result of a just-prior catastrophic failure
and fire. So, it goes.
...
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Re: Attempting to read the tea leves...Columbia trip

elaineginader
 

Hi Dan, Jamie,and Walkabout,

It's great to hear that you plan to come to the September messabout. I won't be there seems like work can't keep going without me right now. I hope you do a write up with pictures so those who are tied to our work chairs can ride along.

Have a great time,
Elaine


On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 4:50 PM Dan <danashore@...> wrote:
Dan, Jamie and Walkabout have been expecting to meet up with the Coot
cortege at Sand island on or about a week hence.  We have managed to defer
some difficult-to-resked appointments, and made some extensive
repairs/exploratory surgical procedures to our running gear, as well.  But.
I'm beginning to wonder about the prospects of a quorum from the locals.
We missed the Toledo fete as a result of a just-prior catastrophic failure
and fire.  So, it goes.

I would greatly appreciate a command climate assessment vis a vis the
committed vs the mebbe's.  If Wednesday is a "steaming day", underway on
the river; I need to anticipate a departure date from Almostcanada this
coming monday.  It's pushing 1K miles round trip, towing a 4,500 pound
trailer and boat.  I have yet to see from the planning chatter if things
like reservations and long term parking arrangements are needed.  Stuff
like that.

Thanks, Dan





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