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Re: [MessaboutW] Messabout -July 14.
John-
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Sorry you can't make it to the messabout. Is "Wee Lass" your Footloose? If so, you've been busy! <g> If you've got any photos of her please scan them and put them into the files section of the list so we can have a look at her.
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 15:10:10 -0000, John T. wrote:
I have really been loking forward to our get-together at Sawyer's --
John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ A paranoid is a man who knows a little of what's going on. <William Burroughs>
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Messabout -July 14.
ajohn1926@...
I have really been loking forward to our get-together at Sawyer's
Landing on the 14th., especially, since it would be the first salt water launching for "Wee Lass", but I am afraid some family complications have arisen and I will not be able to attend. I hope that the weather will be a typical coastal, blue sky and breezy day, and that a good time will be had by all. John, looking forward to your posting of some of the usual fine messabout photos from your camera. Have a safe and enjoyable day! John T.
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Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Yaquina Bay July 14 Elk City
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You've got a one track mind-- full of oars! <g> The captain's gig in question is an ex-US Navy motorboat: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessaboutW/files/Gig.jpg I believe recreational bay crabbing goes on year 'round. The crabs don't like too much fresh water, so it makes sense that they'd be happy in the summer, but I really don't know much about crabbing. Sawyer's rents crab rings, so there must be some crabs around. I've pretty well got the outboard bracket worked out for Pickle, so even if the tin skiff with the antique outboard doesn't show up we can try the Elk City trip Sunday.
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When you figure out the captain's gig issue on the Yaquina and plan a trip, --
John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ The trouble with the school of experience is that the graduates are too old to go to work. <Henry Ford>
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Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Yaquina Bay July 14 Elk City
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When you figure out the captain's gig issue on the Yaquina and plan a trip,
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will you need any rowers? I don't know the size of your (John) friend's gig, but if you need more rowers, let me know. I think that would be a great adventure up to Elk City. I'll try to make the messabout. I just got two crab traps for my birthday, is it crabbing season and is there decent crabbing near Sawyer's?
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From: jhkohnen@boat-links.com [mailto:jhkohnen@boat-links.com] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 12:38 PM To: MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Yaquina Bay July 14 Elk City Pat- The messabout is a one-day affair with the option of messing about Sunday if anybody wants to. In this case, the second day could be the Elk City trip. It's about ten miles from the Toledo ramp to Elk City, in our tin skiff we might be able to make that in hour and a bit if we hurried, but we'll be dawdling, even slowcoaches should be able to do the trip in a couple of hours each way, less with favorable tides. The tides will be running pretty weakly on the 16th, but we'll probably try to leave the ramp not much after nine to ride the flood up the river, high tide is a little before eleven at Toledo. I suppose we'll hang around Elk City for a bit and have lunch then head back. I'm going to stay at Sawyer's Landing Friday and Saturday nights. On Sat, 07 Jul 2001 15:10:10 -0000, Pat wrote: Is the Messabout a one day afair? -- John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ Distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes. <Henry David Thoreau> No flaming, cursing or public mopery. Please be polite. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MessaboutW-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Yaquina Bay July 14 Elk City
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The messabout is a one-day affair with the option of messing about Sunday if anybody wants to. In this case, the second day could be the Elk City trip. It's about ten miles from the Toledo ramp to Elk City, in our tin skiff we might be able to make that in hour and a bit if we hurried, but we'll be dawdling, even slowcoaches should be able to do the trip in a couple of hours each way, less with favorable tides. The tides will be running pretty weakly on the 16th, but we'll probably try to leave the ramp not much after nine to ride the flood up the river, high tide is a little before eleven at Toledo. I suppose we'll hang around Elk City for a bit and have lunch then head back. I'm going to stay at Sawyer's Landing Friday and Saturday nights.
On Sat, 07 Jul 2001 15:10:10 -0000, Pat wrote:
Is the Messabout a one day afair? --
John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ Distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes. <Henry David Thoreau>
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Re: Yaquina Bay July 14 Elk City
antec007
Is the Messabout a one day afair?
Do you plan to spend the night at Sawyer's and go up to Elk City on Sunday. We are still planning to come, and Elk city trip sounds like fun. More incentive to bring Rapid Robert and Seaponies. (Got to see if any of them died over the winter.) What woud be your gestamated time frame for Elk City trip? Thanks Pat Patteson Molalla, Oregon --- In MessaboutW@e..., jhkohnen@b... wrote: Well, it looks like the messabout will be at Sawyer's Landing July14th. Somebody who knows how to get ahold of him (Jack?) should tell ScottLanding showing their rates and whatnot into the files section.20Bay/Sawyers-2.gif 20Bay/Sawyers-1.gif conditions: 1. He is a Greek
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Re: [MessaboutW] Elk City
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Glad you had a good trip. I've never been to Elk City, either by road or water. I tried the road from Highway 20 on my motorcycle once, but it was just too bad to be any fun on a street bike! Even though the road from Toledo is said to be much better, I think it's safe to say that Elk City is "off the beaten track". <g> They used to run steamboats up to Elk City in the old days, and my friend Bill (you met him at the Dexter messabout) wants to scout things out to see if he can get his Navy captain's gig up that far (draws 3' something), so we're going to take a tin skiff with an antique outboard up the river. Alas, it looks like the Elk City expedition may be either the day before or the day after the Yaquina Bay messabout. If it's as nice a trip as it looks like it'll be, it'll be worth doing again though. I'm pushing for doing the Elk City trip the day after the messabout so that any motorboating messabouters who'd like to tag along can have a chance. It's about ten river miles from the Port of Toledo launch ramp to Elk City. We'll be using an ancient 10 hp. motor, but we won't be in a hurry, and with three of us in the tin skiff it may not be too much of a speedboat anyway. The sailing skiff Foxglove that moors at Criteser's is a nice one alright! It looks like it started out as a Billy Atkins design, either Jasper (14') or Aunty Helen (16'), but has a slightly different decking arrangement. I'd like to get the boat and owner to our messabout, but I forgot to leave a note when I was there last week. If you wander over towards the restrooms at Critesers you'll stumble on a derelict sailing skiff under a pile of junk. It looks very much like something Pete Culler would have designed. I wonder if there's a connection to the Atkins skiff's owner?
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John, We had a nice day at the coast on the 4th. We took the Elk City --
John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ The denunciation of the young is a necessary part of the hygiene of older people, and greatly assists the circulation of the blood. <Logan Pearsall Smith>
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Elk City
rjmitsch@...
John, We had a nice day at the coast on the 4th. We took the Elk City
tour. We drove from Hy.20 to Elk City to Toledo. Stopped at the Elk City Park, what a nice place. Looks like a good place for a messabout for motor powered boats. Sounds like a neat trip your planning. Would be interested in going if the scheduling permits. I have all week- ends free in Aug. We are planning a garage sale on one of them, but haven't set a date yet. Stopped at Criteser's saw a boat called the "Foxglove", nice wooden sailboat, about a 15' one and narrow. Let me know when Elk City gets planned Dick
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Messabout on Yaquina Bay July 14
Well, it looks like the messabout will be at Sawyer's Landing July 14th.
Somebody who knows how to get ahold of him (Jack?) should tell Scott Malvitch. I've put a couple of scans of the flyer from Sawyer's Landing showing their rates and whatnot into the files section. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessaboutW/files/Yaquina%20Bay/Sawyers-2.gif http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessaboutW/files/Yaquina%20Bay/Sawyers-1.gif -- John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ Nobody ought to wear a Greek fisherman's hat unless they meet two conditions: 1. He is a Greek 2. He is a Fisherman <Roy Blount Jr.>
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Re: [MessaboutW] Portland Wooden Boat Festival
thoms.bryn@...
Pat knows the answer, but I'll say that I don't think it's at Oak's Park
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this Year. Actually, I believe it's at the new waterfront park (where ever that is)on the east side of the river in downtown. I'm not sure if they still do the build/row-boat-across-river event, but it's pretty neat. My first woodenboat is the firecracker (a 9 foot rowing dory skiff-thingy), which is the boat that is built and rowed across the river in a day or maybe it's over the weekend. Some of the northern folks in the group might have more to offer about this event. It should be good, though.
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From: jhkohnen@boat-links.com [mailto:jhkohnen@boat-links.com] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 3:04 PM To: MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MessaboutW] Portland Wooden Boat Festival I just got a message from Tom Carter of Rivers West about the festival up in Portland. Unfortunately it conflicts with the Steam Up in Brooks. :o( Boats or ancient machinery, it's a tough choice. I'm not familiar with Portland (I try to stay away from the megalopolis), do any of you know where the launch ramp and festival are and how to get to them? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry to be so long in replying about the boat show. Its really taking off and turning into a big deal. Its the last weekend in July, the 28th and 29th at the south end of the new Eastside Esplanade. There is a public dock there where exibitors can tie up. The closest, handiest launch ramp is at Willamette Park in the Johns Landing area. I'm not sure how we will be handling parking for boat trailers for exibitors, but we have something worked out. If you want to come we would love to have you. Contact Jerry Estes, the show chairman, at: mariner@qwest.net. See you there, Tom Carter ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ One must have a heart of stone to read the death of Little Nell by Dickens without laughing. <Oscar Wilde> No flaming, cursing or public mopery. Please be polite. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MessaboutW-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Portland Wooden Boat Festival
I just got a message from Tom Carter of Rivers West about the festival up
in Portland. Unfortunately it conflicts with the Steam Up in Brooks. :o( Boats or ancient machinery, it's a tough choice. I'm not familiar with Portland (I try to stay away from the megalopolis), do any of you know where the launch ramp and festival are and how to get to them? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry to be so long in replying about the boat show. Its really taking off and turning into a big deal. Its the last weekend in July, the 28th and 29th at the south end of the new Eastside Esplanade. There is a public dock there where exibitors can tie up. The closest, handiest launch ramp is at Willamette Park in the Johns Landing area. I'm not sure how we will be handling parking for boat trailers for exibitors, but we have something worked out. If you want to come we would love to have you. Contact Jerry Estes, the show chairman, at: mariner@qwest.net. See you there, Tom Carter ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ One must have a heart of stone to read the death of Little Nell by Dickens without laughing. <Oscar Wilde>
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Re: [MessaboutW] Yaquina Bay messabout
Dick-
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I suppose we could do the messabout on the 21st, but I've mentioned to some people who probably don't monitor this list that it would _probably_ be on the 14th. :o( I suppose we ought to stick to the 14th and hope to catch you next time. We'll miss you though. I stopped at the ramp near Criteser's the other day, it's just a ramp, parking lot and restroom. I think that part of the bay is probably more fun in a motorboat or good rowboat than a sailboat. Sometime quite soon I'm going to try a trip from that ramp up to Elk City with a couple of friends-- using an antique outboard! I think I'll take my little Honda along for insurance. <g> It should be a nice, interesting trip. When you got to the coast can you leave a note about it in the Atkin-like sailing skiff that moors at Critesers? I forgot to the other day. It's an interesting little boat and I hope it shows up. I may see you at the steam-up in Brooks on the 28th. There's always lots of neat machinery there! I went once, years ago, and it turned out to be one of the hottest days of the summer! I thought I was going to die wandering around between those simmering steamers and hot gas engines! Let's hope it's a bit nicer this year. The motor launch needs a lot of work, though it's basically sound. I should replace part of the keelson and possibly a few planks. The engine will need a sleeve eventually, and who knows what else I'll find when I tear it down. I'm glad I bought it though! If it doesn't sink too quickly and the engine runs OK (I got a new carb float today) I plan on putting around a bit this summer before tearing things apart, I may even bring it to a messabout. <g>
On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:46:49 -0000, Dick Mitsch wrote:
Hello all. I've been reading all your messages. I don't type very --
John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ "Necessity is the mother of invention" is a silly proverb. "Necessity is the mother of futile dodges" is much nearer the truth. <Alfred North Whitehead>
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Yaquina Bay messabout
rjmitsch@...
Hello all. I've been reading all your messages. I don't type very
well so I just read. I let my wife do the typing, she's faster. There is a ramp just up from Criteser's, toward Toledo. It has the ramp, a nice dock, & parking lot. I lauched there once when I took my Uncle for a boat ride. I don't remember if there's any camping, but we're going over there the 4th so I'll look into more of what's there. July is a busy month for me, I won't be able to make the 14th, we have a Family Reunion in Molalla. Then the 28th I'm showing my Dad's 1948 York Turnabout Tractor at Brook's Antique Tractor Show. I've invited the group if anyone is interested in old tractors & motors( they're just not in boats).The only week-end that's free is the 21st. If it's working out for everyone on the 14th then I'll just try to catch the next one. John, congratulations on the New/Old purchase. Not mad, your just a boat nut like the rest of us. I'm still thinking of selling mine on a web-site, but haven't done much about it yet. Dick
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Yaquina Messabout Spots.
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Sawyer's Landing, July 14 sounds good to me.
John.
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Yaquina Bay messabout Spots
I did a little scouting around Yaquina Bay the last few days.
Sawyer's Landing is about a mile closer to Newport than I had it on the map (there's a new map at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessaboutW/files/YaquinaMap.jpg ), it's right at Yaquina. Advantages to Sawyer's landing are: Right across the road from the Mad Dog tavern (despite the name a nice friendly joint. Closer to interesting sloughs than South Beach. More pleasant location than South Beach. Less of a maze to negotiate before reaching open water. Tent and RV camping. Use of the docks for the day. Decks and picnic tables for hanging out. Grocery store. Disadvantages: No beach (but there might be a nice spot across the bay). Boats launched by hoist for $10 (covers in and out). No place to launch cartop boats except with the hoist. The boat basin at South Beach has few advantages (in my unbiased [kaf! kaf!] opinion: Only $6 to use the ramp. Cartoppers might be able to sneak their boats into the water without paying. A "chuck wagon" selling hamburgers and hot dogs. Easier to sail around looking at old fishing boats. Likelihood of lusty winds. RV camping available. Disadvantages: Lots of rowing for unpowered boats before getting to open water (but the basin seems to be well protected from the tides and the breakwaters are high enough that they might give some protection from the wind for short-masted boats). Inconvenient trailer parking. Sterile atmosphere. No beach (I didn't go looking for Pat's beach near the Hatfield Center). Another launch site on the bay is the Port of Toledo ramp just upstream from Criteser Mooring (within sight). Advantages: Free launching. Close to interesting waters. Close to Criteser Mooring and the interesting old boats that frequent it. Quiet water and light wind for very small boats. Disadvantages: No beach. Spartan facilities (no picnic tables, small dock, no trees). Narrow water. Light wind. Currents are likely stronger than in the wider waters of the bay. No camping. I'm leaning towards Sawyer's Landing for the July 14th messabout, but the choice doesn't have to be mine. Does anyone else have any ideas? Does July 14th _not_ work for anybody? -- John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into jail; for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned... A man in jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company. <Samuel Johnson>
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MAIB
Bryn-
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You don't know MAIB!? That's Messing About In Boats, THE periodical for boat nuts like us. $24 for 24 issues (about twice a month) from: Messing About In Boats 29 Burley Street Wenham, Massachusetts 01984 Bob Hicks (publisher) (978) 774-0906 Can you make it to Yaquina Bay on the 14th of July?
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Re: [MessaboutW] Yaquina Messabout Spots
thoms.bryn@...
I have not. That sounds great. I do think I saw the article in SBJ. I
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picked up a bunch of them at a garage sale awhile ago. I have always wanted to at least cruise around the sound in a two person dory, to Alaska is another adventure, one that would take some training. Good looking books. Bytheway, I know WB, and I know SBJ, but MAIB?
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From: jhkohnen@boat-links.com [mailto:jhkohnen@boat-links.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:10 PM To: MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MessaboutW] Yaquina Messabout Spots Bryn- Have you read the account that was published in Small Boat Journal by the young fellow who rowed single-handed up the inside passage in a Swampscott dory? On another occasion he and his girlfriend circumnavigated Vancouver Island in the same boat, and he also wrote about that trip for SBJ. I'll rummage around and see if I can find those issues. Somewhere recently I heard about this book: DeArmond, Robert N. A Voyage in a Dory : From Sitka to Tacoma by Oars, Sail and Tow Rope (Sitka : Arrowhead Press, 1999) 88 pp., paper, $13.95 + postage, ISBN 1929292007, available from Hearthside Books, 8745 Glacier Hwy, Juneau AK 99801, 1-800-478-1000. The Southeast Alaska historian describes his 1931 adventure. Per: http://www.library.state.ak.us/hist/somebooks/some99.html Sounds like a good read. Then of course there's Row to Alaska by WInd and Oar, or something like that, about a mature couple who row and sail a dory to Alaska. You see it advertised in the back of MAIB. I've got it around here somewhere... You'll notice that the old-time sailing and rowing boats had a rig that was easy to take down if they were going to be rowed when there was wind. Often they'd strike the rig and row upwind rather than tacking under sail. They wouldn't try that with the rig up! On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:53:32 -0700, you wrote: I do have visions of doing the Inside Passage with only a two-person Dory -- John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ "Necessity is the mother of invention" is a silly proverb. "Necessity is the mother of futile dodges" is much nearer the truth. <Alfred North Whitehead> No flaming, cursing or public mopery. Please be polite. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: MessaboutW-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Yaquina Bay Messabout Spot?
More info from Warren Jordan (he designed my boat
http://www.jordanwoodboats.com/): ------------------------------------------------------------------- Sawyer's Landing is a nice little marina about 5 miles up the north bay road from Newport. They have a hoist launch and a little store and docks and campground facilities...very cozy place. Criteser's only has a marine railways for haulout and repair, but no launch facilities, as far as I know. ------------------------------------------------------------------- I sort of favor having the messabout up the bay a ways. The wind would probably be steadier and stronger near South Beach, but Sawyer's Landing is close to a couple of interesting looking backwaters to explore. It sounds like a nice place too. I'll check it out next week. It's just about where my guess put it on the map in the files section. The tides for July 14 are pretty much neaps with a low high tide at about 7:30 in the morning at Yaquina (near Sawyer's Landing), a low tide at about 1:15 and then a higher high tide at about 8:00 in the evening. Perhaps not the best for exploring shallow sloughs, but the currents shouldn't be too strong. -- John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ One must have a heart of stone to read the death of Little Nell by Dickens without laughing. <Oscar Wilde>
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Re: [MessaboutW] Yaquina Messabout Spots
Bryn-
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Have you read the account that was published in Small Boat Journal by the young fellow who rowed single-handed up the inside passage in a Swampscott dory? On another occasion he and his girlfriend circumnavigated Vancouver Island in the same boat, and he also wrote about that trip for SBJ. I'll rummage around and see if I can find those issues. Somewhere recently I heard about this book: DeArmond, Robert N. A Voyage in a Dory : From Sitka to Tacoma by Oars, Sail and Tow Rope (Sitka : Arrowhead Press, 1999) 88 pp., paper, $13.95 + postage, ISBN 1929292007, available from Hearthside Books, 8745 Glacier Hwy, Juneau AK 99801, 1-800-478-1000. The Southeast Alaska historian describes his 1931 adventure. Per: http://www.library.state.ak.us/hist/somebooks/some99.html Sounds like a good read. Then of course there's Row to Alaska by WInd and Oar, or something like that, about a mature couple who row and sail a dory to Alaska. You see it advertised in the back of MAIB. I've got it around here somewhere... You'll notice that the old-time sailing and rowing boats had a rig that was easy to take down if they were going to be rowed when there was wind. Often they'd strike the rig and row upwind rather than tacking under sail. They wouldn't try that with the rig up!
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I do have visions of doing the Inside Passage with only a two-person Dory --
John <jkohnen@boat-links.com> http://www.boat-links.com/ "Necessity is the mother of invention" is a silly proverb. "Necessity is the mother of futile dodges" is much nearer the truth. <Alfred North Whitehead>
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Re: Yaquina Bay Messabout Date
antec007
I think we can make July 14-15.
I've got a Dr's appointment on the 12th to see if the bone graft "Took" or whether I have to put my neck back on the chopping block, but should be able to make it if all OK. Not sure which boat to bring. Would still like to bring Rapid Robert. With it's 15 Seaponies should be able to do some tow work. (We both even got the New Motor Boat licenses befor the Deadline.) And bring "Boat Box" delivery truck. If not, will be the "Toad" on the Subaru again, and I can carry it even in the shape I'm in. It holds the two of us very cozily, but won't be able to negotiate much rough water or long distances. Keep us informed. Sounds like fun. Pat Patteson Molalla, Oregon --- In MessaboutW@e..., "Jack & Maggie Brown" <mjbrown@c...> wrote: John: We could make July 14 work. Negotiating the "L" channelafter launch is a problem. We will have our 4hp in the dory well; so one solution is to tow the sailboats a bit. messabout. I'll put in a bid for the 14th of July, a Saturday, for no reasonother than that it's in the middle of the month.and cats. <Albert Schweitzer>Service.
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