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Re: Trusty Honda

Case Turner
 

Mark, you do know that John’s tow rope involves skiing, right? 

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On May 17, 2022, at 4:46 PM, Mark Neuhaus <moonlitturtle1934@...> wrote:


Hi John,

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 6:33 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

I still may want to borrow your Honda, Mark, if mine doesn't smooth out
after some exercise.

I took both motors out on the Willamette this morning for a run around Ross Island and down to the Hawthorne Bridge.  Used the Tohatsu for that run, and it behaved just fine, although it did not like running back to the dock against a full river current and outgoing tide.  Needless to say, the throttle was open significantly more for that return trip to Willamette Park. I believe I will go back to covering the black cowling with an old white t-shirt, perhaps soaking wet, to keep it from getting too hot in the sun.

After returning to the dock, we put the Honda on and headed upstream.  Wide open it hit 4 mph and was screaming.  Turned around, and still wide open, popped up over 7 mph before I let up.  It might have hit more, I can't say, I was watching all the debris in the water.  But it seemed quite happy to see service again.  :-)

So, John, if you want to use it, it's all yours. However, if the Tohatsu mis-behaves, I've got first dibs on your towrope. :-)

Mark


Re: Trusty Honda

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi John,

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 6:33 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

I still may want to borrow your Honda, Mark, if mine doesn't smooth out
after some exercise.

I took both motors out on the Willamette this morning for a run around Ross Island and down to the Hawthorne Bridge.  Used the Tohatsu for that run, and it behaved just fine, although it did not like running back to the dock against a full river current and outgoing tide.  Needless to say, the throttle was open significantly more for that return trip to Willamette Park. I believe I will go back to covering the black cowling with an old white t-shirt, perhaps soaking wet, to keep it from getting too hot in the sun.

After returning to the dock, we put the Honda on and headed upstream.  Wide open it hit 4 mph and was screaming.  Turned around, and still wide open, popped up over 7 mph before I let up.  It might have hit more, I can't say, I was watching all the debris in the water.  But it seemed quite happy to see service again.  :-)

So, John, if you want to use it, it's all yours. However, if the Tohatsu mis-behaves, I've got first dibs on your towrope. :-)

Mark


Re: Coots in the Derring-Do Dinghy Dash

 

The Dinghy Dash starts at the Orchard Point marina with a Le Mans start at noon Saturday. Be there at 11:00 for a meet and greet and skippers' meeting. Any small sail and/or human powered boats can compete. Here's the flyer:

http://www.coots.org/Misc/DERRING-DO-RACE-COURSE-MAP.pdf

On 5/17/2022 1:30 AM, John Kohnen wrote:
Coots are welcome to compete in the Derring-Do Dinghy Dash, a _fun_ race for small sail and human powered boats. The Dash starts at Orchard Point Park, in the marina I think, at 11:00, or show up by then anyway. The finish is at the messabout picnic at Shorelane Park. The distance is about a mile, or maybe a bit more. More details as I learn more...
Don't be put off by the Triton Yacht Clubs blue blazers and fancy yachts, underneath the glitter they're boat nuts just like you and I. <g>
http://www.tritonyachtclub.net/events-calendar/derring-do-dinghy-dash
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Re: Fern Ridge Spring Messabout, May 20-22nd

Dan Pence
 

John, I’m planning to bring our Acorn Tender and sailing rig.


Electric Trolling Motor On Sale

 

Saw the Minn Kota Endura 30 on sale at Bi-Mart for $99.95, through May 24th. The 30 lb. thrust motor is plenty for most of our boats. Doesn't work as well as the much more expensive motors designed for primary propulsion, but a cheap way to enjoy quiet electric power.

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Coots in the Derring-Do Dinghy Dash

 

Coots are welcome to compete in the Derring-Do Dinghy Dash, a _fun_ race for small sail and human powered boats. The Dash starts at Orchard Point Park, in the marina I think, at 11:00, or show up by then anyway. The finish is at the messabout picnic at Shorelane Park. The distance is about a mile, or maybe a bit more. More details as I learn more...

Don't be put off by the Triton Yacht Clubs blue blazers and fancy yachts, underneath the glitter they're boat nuts just like you and I. <g>

http://www.tritonyachtclub.net/events-calendar/derring-do-dinghy-dash

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Coots Thursday Lunch Conundrum

 

The Weatherman is saying there's a slight chance of rain Thursday, but Dan from Almostcanada is hoping to get to Fern Ridge sometime Thursday. I'll probably have my lunch out there. Join us if you like. 1:00 as usual. If you're worried about getting rained on I won't be offended if you have lunch at 4 Spirits.

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Re: Trusty Honda

 

I took another look inside Mr. Honda. Yesterday I felt pulses of exhaust coming out of the pee hole, and that gave me a suspicion...

The "grommet, water pump" (#7 in the illustration in the link) somehow got pushed up "tube, water" (#4) while I was wrestling the lower unit into position, and wasn't engaging with the "holder, impeller cover" (#3). It might not be a tight enough fit in #3 anymore...

The no-water-out-the-pee-hole may have just been the old problem of a little wasp, or some other critter, who likes to stop up little holes with mud, and may have been cured by blowing out the passages. <shrug> Now I've got a healthy stream of pee. :o) (my doctor keeps asking me about that <g>)

https://www.boats.net/catalog/honda/outboard/2hp/bf2am-sa-vin-baes-1200001-to-baes-1299999/extension-case

I'll see if I can find a substitute for the grommet, and I'll replace the impeller at my leisure. It's past it's expiration date, even if it is still pumping OK. I've been wanting to give Mr. Honda a new carb for a while, and now I can do it at my leisure also.

I still may want to borrow your Honda, Mark, if mine doesn't smooth out after some exercise.

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Re: Fern Ridge Spring Messabout, May 20-22nd

 

The beach at Shorelane Park slopes down gradually. The water is a bit deeper on either side of the open beach and larger boats should nose in there. We need to leave enough room on the beach for a couple of small boats so the Derring-Do Dinghy Dashers have a place to land. We'll drag their dinghies out of the water as they arrive. Some of the dinghies may want a tow back to Richardson, or an automobile ride back there to get their rigs. The Dinghy Dash starts at Orchard Point about 11:00. We're supposed to arrive at Shorelane around 11:00. Bring Chairs!

http://www.coots.org/mb/FernRidge/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/collections/72157649416051037/

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Re: Fern Ridge Spring Messabout, May 20-22nd

 

I'm glad you're coming, Dan! Are you bringing Ginger? You'll need a dinghy to get ashore at the picnic beach, but somebody may be able to shuttle you ashore in their boat.

http://www.coots.org/mb/FernRidge/index.html

On 5/16/2022 6:35 AM, Ginger Dan wrote:
I will bring some firewood. I’ve got a bunch.
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Re: Trusty Honda

 

Sleeping aboard your boat is kosher at Richardson. be sure to get an overnight parking pass from Shelly.

I was being silly. <g> Honda made several models of their 2 horse (and more slight variations). Mine is from the mid '90s and has a water-cooled exhaust; most, if not all, more recent models don't.

I appreciate the offer of your little Honda for the weekend, Mark. I'll take you up on it. There may be some towing involved with getting the Dinghy Dash participants back to Orchard Pt., and if we go through the Jungle it'd be nice to have a dependable motor. I've got a cable and lock.

On 5/16/2022 8:54 AM, Mark N wrote:
Hi John,
On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 7:26 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@... <mailto:jkohnen@...>> wrote:
The trouble is that Honda made lots and lots of different varieties of
their 2 hp. motor, sometimes changing internal parts in the middle of a
production year.
What did you mean when you said you have water cooled exhaust?  My Honda 2hp from around 2010 has no pee hole, at least that I've ever seen.
I'd probably have to "borrow" a _bunch of_ motors
before I found one with the right water pump. <sigh>
Wouldn't you need to "borrow" just ONE motor and use it as is?  You could even swap yours onto their boat, at least for the weekend. :-)
I ordered a new carburettor and impeller, but I've got another
suspicion
that might pan out to get Mr. Honda going in time for the messabout...
I tested my Tohatsu 6hp in the back yard the other day and it appears to want to work okay.  But I was hoping to take Turtle out tomorrow for an hour or two on the Willamette with both motors along and make sure they both work.  I'd be happy to bring the Honda to Fern Ridge for you to use, providing you can lock it in your boat so the critter cams don't get activated.
I should have asked this before, but we are allowed to sleep aboard at the dock, yes?
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Re: pt townsend coots

 

When I saw Cap'n Kirk in Port Townsend at the Salish 100 do he mentioned that Tradition was for sale. He loves the boat, but said he didn't want to do another "restoration" on her. But the hull should be sound, and maybe all she'll need is a lot of sanding and varnishing (or painting) of the spars and woodwork. She's a nice boat.

https://flic.kr/p/vMugw6

https://flic.kr/p/vMuCyX

On 5/16/2022 8:10 AM, PT Bob wrote:
This boat was previously owned by Kirk Gresham a PT Pocket Yatcher. He knows the boat well and also knows the current condition. I talked to him last night (no, I'm not buying another boat) and he is more than willing to give information to anyone interested in the boat. He is not connected with the sale.
EarthtoGresham@... <mailto:EarthtoGresham@...>
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[AtkinBoats] Sad news

Case Turner
 



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From: mrk_gillett <mark@...>
Date: May 16, 2022 at 8:30:21 AM PDT
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Subject: Re: [AtkinBoats] Sad news
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Yes very sad news indeed. It was through her dedication that the designs remain active  RIP


On May 16, 2022, at 10:26 AM, Kevin T via groups.io <cinco75@...> wrote:



It is with a heavy heart that I have to pass along the news that Pat Atkin passed away peacefully yesterday (May 15, 2022). As I get more information, I'll pass it along. An obituary should come out on Thursday.  

It has long been the plan to ensure the legacy of John and William Atkin's plans. All the plans are now in the expert care of Mystic Seaport, and will (hopefully) soon be up for sale there. She will be greatly missed by the wooden boat community. 


Kevin


Re: Bolger Clam Skiff (was: Electric punt)

Pete Leenhouts
 

The green one has a 15hp outboard (IIRC), John. It runs very well through the chop on lower Port Townsend Bay. For use as a dinghy,. I'd use a 9.9 or a 15hp with the 15-foot model - no need to go REALLY fast.   

Gold-plated - yes, the 18-foot version I built was 'glassed inside and out and very heavily built (especially the transom-to-side joint, which has three layers of glass on it over an especially large fillet). For a quick build of the 15-foot version, I think I'd glass just the exterior chines and the bottom with 9-ounce cloth in addition to the interior joints. No need to glass all surfaces inside and out. Bolger says to use latex paint and just let it wear off, painting again when it is mostly gone. I think I'd add a self-draining well at the back, too, just in case the boat took a boarding sea over the transom.  

IMG_9477 - Presque Isle WI - Oxbow Lake - 2016 Fishing Trip - Bolger Work Skiff - Pete Leenhouts.JPG
18 foot model - 30 hp engine. This is the one I built.  I usually put 4-50 pounds of sand (in a sandbag) as far up in the bow when I am single-handing it.  The red boot strip, IIRC, is 2 inches wide. The bow is supposed to run out of the water as shown. I handle this boat carefully and rarely run it at top speed. 
IMG_8271CE1 - Chippewa Falls WI - Glen Loch Lake - Launching the Philip Bolger design nr 606 WORK SKIFF - Jon and Keri Leenhouts.jpg
My brother and his daughter in the boat, with the 30 hp Merc.  The interior was later painted a light gray - that white was just too bright. The build album for this boat is here: Boat - Bolger Work Skiff for My Brother | Flickr

This is the 18-foot model (I didn't build this one) with what I believe is a 15 hp 4-stroke Honda outboard engine being drawn up on the beach at Port Hadlock on the south end of Port Townsend Bay. At the time, it was being used 2-3 times a week for crabbing, launching from a trailer each time. Find more pictures of this boat here: Boat - Bolger Work Skiff | Flickr 

Pete Leenhouts
A Distant Coot 


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From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
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Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Bolger Clam Skiff (was: Electric punt)

Pete built a gold-plater Clam Skiff for his brother. :o) Phil Bolger
probably never imagined anyone would put so much effort into making a
workboat look so good. <g>

https://flic.kr/p/ufQqeo

What power does the other Crab Skiff have, Pete? How does it get along?
The motor looks a good deal smaller than the 30 hp. your brother uses.

On 5/11/2022 4:29 AM, Riptide Pete wrote:
> I built the 18-foot Bolger Clam Skiff
> ...

> https://www.flickr.com/photos/old_salt7/albums/72157646777724582
>
> There was another Clam Skiff on Port Townsend Bay. I took a few pictures
> of it before it's owner moved out of the area (but he told me he was
> leaving the boat for a local friend). Here's the album:

> https://www.flickr.com/photos/old_salt7/albums/72157650916422631
> ...
> Bolger wrote that the 18-foot version could be built in a month of
> weekends, which is probably correct, and out of lumber yard ply and
> wood. Mine took (years) longer than that! (laughing).

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Re: pt townsend coots

Bob Miller
 

This boat was previously owned by Kirk Gresham a PT Pocket Yatcher. He knows the boat well and also knows the current condition. I talked to him last night (no, I'm not buying another boat) and he is more than willing to give information to anyone interested in the boat. He is not connected with the sale.


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Bob



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On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 8:02 AM Steve Molin <stevemolin@...> wrote:
Do we have any operatives in the Port Townsend area? This: 
https://olympic.craigslist.org/boa/d/port-townsend-crotch-island-pinky-sail/7484151013.html looks incredibly tempting but I can't get away from work this weekend to drive up there myself ...


2022 Pocket Yacht Palooza & Crooza

Lee Bjorklund
 

What to do after - or instead of - this year’s Salish 100? Register now at Pocketyachters.com to be part of the PY PALOOZA. Its North America’s largest exhibition of small cruising boats at Port Townsend's NW Maritime Heritage Center on 7/23. Then on July 24-26 you can be part of the Pocket Yacht CROOZA including an overnight in beautiful Mats Mats Bay, coupled with a special “insider” tour of the renowned NW School of Wooden Boatbuilding in Port Hadlock. Check it out.


pt townsend coots

Steve Molin
 

Do we have any operatives in the Port Townsend area? This: 
https://olympic.craigslist.org/boa/d/port-townsend-crotch-island-pinky-sail/7484151013.html looks incredibly tempting but I can't get away from work this weekend to drive up there myself ...


Re: Trusty Honda

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi John,

On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 7:26 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

The trouble is that Honda made lots and lots of different varieties of
their 2 hp. motor, sometimes changing internal parts in the middle of a
production year.

What did you mean when you said you have water cooled exhaust?  My Honda 2hp from around 2010 has no pee hole, at least that I've ever seen. 
 
I'd probably have to "borrow" a _bunch of_ motors
before I found one with the right water pump. <sigh>

Wouldn't you need to "borrow" just ONE motor and use it as is?  You could even swap yours onto their boat, at least for the weekend. :-)
 
I ordered a new carburettor and impeller, but I've got another suspicion
that might pan out to get Mr. Honda going in time for the messabout...

I tested my Tohatsu 6hp in the back yard the other day and it appears to want to work okay.  But I was hoping to take Turtle out tomorrow for an hour or two on the Willamette with both motors along and make sure they both work.  I'd be happy to bring the Honda to Fern Ridge for you to use, providing you can lock it in your boat so the critter cams don't get activated.

I should have asked this before, but we are allowed to sleep aboard at the dock, yes?

 Mark


Re: Fern Ridge Spring Messabout, May 20-22nd

Dan Pence
 

I will bring some firewood. I’ve got a bunch.


Re: Trusty Honda

Edward Epifani
 

Yeah I had one. Great motor. But most likely impeller. Easy to toast it. ( the engine w/o cooling.)
No sign of my back ordered oars. I’m thinking I’m going to catch a couple days at Big Lagoon, Great wind forecast there. Then head up Friday, and see you all then.
Ed

On May 15, 2022, at 8:26 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

The trouble is that Honda made lots and lots of different varieties of their 2 hp. motor, sometimes changing internal parts in the middle of a production year. I'd probably have to "borrow" a _bunch of_ motors before I found one with the right water pump. <sigh>

Besides, the new marina host has set up critter cams all over the marina to foil midnight boat supply visits. <g>

I ordered a new carburettor and impeller, but I've got another suspicion that might pan out to get Mr. Honda going in time for the messabout...

On 5/15/2022 8:14 PM, Dirt wrote:
I can’t imagine there wouldn’t be a spare water pump hanging out. Common part for those engines. Probably be one hanging off a few boats around the marina.
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