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Re: Coots Thursday Lunch, Near Junction City

Earl Boissonou
 

John,...is that the place with the airplane fuselage stuck in the roof?
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On Oct 19, 2021, at 1:24 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

This week let's try the hotdog stand at Lancaster, between Harrisburg and Junction City. I didn't check it out in person, but it looks like there are airy places to eat. More than just hotdogs on the menu. 1:00, as usual:

https://goo.gl/maps/Sq7uKEY3x4okPfpC6

http://extremeburgers.com/

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Re: Overnight at Dexter/Lowell marina

Electri-Cal
 

Back in town, but a good bike trip to SunRiver once again.  A bit dry now for old sinuses though.  Back to boats, from what I see in the notes so far.  I wonder is some changes might be made to Elaines boat for comfort.  Most boats can be modified somehow, part of the fun I'd say.  I was thinking about a steel (cheaper) or aluminum (cleaner) and plastic square tubular sectioned roll up table top I saw.  A series of spaced apart aluminum Square metal tubes with fabric sewn tubes that they slip into the hull width, like the camp table I saw at bi Mart.   Then the tubes roll up in the fabric cover for storage, might need some plywood to support people weight and an air mattress topping that off, kinda off the head but worth looking at.   There just has to be an answer there someplace.  Even a underboom deck cover of stretched canvas would cut some wind at night, with a couple of end poles added.  Seat cushions that slide together might help both day and night comfort.

I'm figuring on a plain ol' tarp stretched over the bimini top as a frame on Surprise, a bit tall but a lower one that worked for Elaines height would probably be fine.  If Bob Larkin can do this !!!  Possibly we coots have some old tubing or 2X2's to make something  that works like a tent shape  The easiest is a tarp boom tent, with her skills it would be a good project.  Well, all this is conjecture, as I don't know her boat at all, but there has to be an answer besides selling the whole rig and starting over, unless it sails poorly of course.  In that case take the lumps and get one that starts out closer to what you want, everybody changes boats ask John Kohnen, ahem !!.  I have also, and miss some of them now, but time marches on.

Best Wishes,    Cal 

Even the old Loman 17 cabin hard chine that I had was a great overnighter, was a simplified lightning with a cabin, fast and easy to handle.  Probably none left now. ---- see ya later, ----   Cal


Coots Thursday Lunch, Near Junction City

 

This week let's try the hotdog stand at Lancaster, between Harrisburg and Junction City. I didn't check it out in person, but it looks like there are airy places to eat. More than just hotdogs on the menu. 1:00, as usual:

https://goo.gl/maps/Sq7uKEY3x4okPfpC6

http://extremeburgers.com/

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Re: easy and cheap boat cover

elaineginader
 

I've checked these out Cal and also got ideas from Michael B's blog. As John mentioned my trailered boat isn't really comfortable. My larger boat is but can't be hooked up for travel very easily. I'm thinking of selling what I have for a trailered boat and look for one more suitable for my plans. At that point I'll be doing a lot of creating. 
Thanks Cal for all of your suggestions. 
Elaine

On Sun, Oct 17, 2021, 7:59 PM Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:
The guy I saw gives source and price for a full boat cover for - in his case - a coot size jonboat for backyard storage.  It seems possible to make that collapse for a camping cover.  Maybe just a covered area but probably ok for a few  or more trips.  Check out Utube for the info.  Just open it, and ask for cheap boat cover, or pvc boat covers, probably a number of them.  One I saw I would add a center fitting for less sag, but what the heck, plus a commercial cover comes with straps to hold it down which beats grommets all to pieces.   His final cost was around $40.00, so just in case i'd add a ten spot for boat fittings or misc. to fit.

Check it out, might work for the Dexter trip.,  -----  Cal


easy and cheap boat cover

Electri-Cal
 

The guy I saw gives source and price for a full boat cover for - in his case - a coot size jonboat for backyard storage.  It seems possible to make that collapse for a camping cover.  Maybe just a covered area but probably ok for a few  or more trips.  Check out Utube for the info.  Just open it, and ask for cheap boat cover, or pvc boat covers, probably a number of them.  One I saw I would add a center fitting for less sag, but what the heck, plus a commercial cover comes with straps to hold it down which beats grommets all to pieces.   His final cost was around $40.00, so just in case i'd add a ten spot for boat fittings or misc. to fit.

Check it out, might work for the Dexter trip.,  -----  Cal


Re: John Storm Transient Dock

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi John,

On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 4:53 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

Is that the dock on the west side of the river with a big pipe(s) coming
down past it?

Nope, wrong bridge. Jon Storm is east side, just north of the I-205 bridge.

There is another new-ish dock in Lake Oswego at Foothills Park that has free docking. One of the residents at the moorage where I keep my boat spent a weekend there last month and enjoyed it well enough.

If we ever get a Portland area cruise going, those two spots might be good spots to use.

Mark

 


Re: Overnight at Dexter/Lowell marina

 

Alas, Elaine's little sailboat isn't even comfortable to _sit_ in. <sigh>

On 10/17/2021 1:44 PM, Electri-Cal wrote:
Hi, Elaine. Can you make a couple of polesform a sideline, then say 4poles each side to the gunnels, with light cord.  Throw a tarp over that, and quick as that ,,, You are Lewis and Clark,  or close to that, but could be cozy with an air mattress.
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Re: Overnight at Dexter/Lowell marina

 

Yeah, that's a bargain. For $47 a month a slip at Dexter would be handy for all sorts of things, in the off-season when I don't have a slip at Fern Ridge. That's about half the cost of my slip at Richardson -- in a year where there's enough water to use it for 6 months.

On 10/16/2021 5:55 PM, Electri-Cal wrote:
Huh!!  Sounds like a way to leave the boat in slip for up to 4 week ends on a "use as desired"  basis.  Then use it when you want to have access during good weather, work on trailer rails, or could save gas to not drag it back and forth. ...
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Re: John Storm Transient Dock

 

Is that the dock on the west side of the river with a big pipe(s) coming down past it? I didn't know the name; it sounds like overnight mooring is OK there. Do you know what the access is from the shore? Looks like it may be private property...

http://www.boat-links.com/images/JohnStorm.jpg

Good for you, getting out on the water. :o) I was gonna go to Dexter yesterday, but Mary talked me into going to Florence. Offering to buy me dinner at Griff's on the way home helped. ;o)

On 10/15/2021 10:29 PM, Brian G wrote:
Here's a place to chill, boys and girls !
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Re: Raster Nautical Charts -- Bye Bye Soon

 

BSB, or KAP, are the closest thing to a standard format for raster nautical charts. Navionics can't use them, since it uses only vector charts, and proprietary ones at that. OpenCPN is a good, free, nav program that can use BSB/KAP charts. It runs on PCs, Linux, and Android mobile devices:

https://opencpn.org/

Several of Us use it, so you can get support here. I suppose most of the nav programs for raster charts are fading away, or are already gone, now that NOAA is moving to vector charts exclusively. <sigh> My favorite, OziExplorer isn't exclusively for marine navigation -- it appears its most avid users are Aussie 4-wheel-drivers -- so it may be around for a while...

http://www.oziexplorer.com/

On 10/17/2021 2:56 PM, Mark N wrote:
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I am unaware of that BSB format is or how to make it readable -
Suggestions - for each - one at a time.
...
Navigation program?  A number of them are available for various platforms.  Google will show you them.  OpenCPN and Navionics seem to be two popular ones here in Cootland.
...
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Re: Raster Nautical Charts -- Bye Bye Soon

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi Gerard,

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 3:36 PM Gerard Mittelstaedt <MITTEL48@...> wrote:

The Raster Navigational Charts are available in BSB format.

I am unaware of that BSB format is or how to make it readable -
Suggestions - for each - one at a time.

Maybe you've received an answer by private mail, but if not, I'll try to help here.

The BSB/KAP file is briefly described here: http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/BSB

I've never seen it referenced for anything but nautical charts.  

My first question to you would be - are you hoping to use these files in an electronic navigation program or are you just wanting to look at the image as you would a paper nautical chart?  

Navigation program?  A number of them are available for various platforms.  Google will show you them.  OpenCPN and Navionics seem to be two popular ones here in Cootland.

If you only want to view the image, then you'd be better off downloading the PDF version of the chart and then you can have it on your phone, tablet, netbook, or laptop on your boat.  You can even print it out in pieces and tape them together for a homemade version of the NOAA supplied paper chart. I've even gone as far as using cheap packaging tape to cover both sides of the chart, making it virtually waterproof.

Here's a link to a PDF chart of my local "cruising" area that I've done that with: https://www.charts.noaa.gov/InteractiveCatalog/nrnc.shtml?rnc=18525 
                                                                           
 And, the website even has a booklet chart which is a PDF chart cut into pieces to print out at 8.5 by 11 inch, but is a reduced scale chart.

I thought I was able to download these PDFs in bulk in the past, but can't seem to find a way to do it now.  Have to go one at a time.  

Hope some of this is what you were looking for.

Mark




 


Re: Overnight at Dexter/Lowell marina

Electri-Cal
 

Hi, Elaine. Can you make a couple of polesform a sideline, then say 4poles each side to the gunnels, with light cord.  Throw a tarp over that, and quick as that ,,, You are Lewis and Clark,  or close to that, but could be cozy with an air mattress.

See ya,   Cal


Re: The new "gassie" found me today

Electri-Cal
 

Okie Dokie !!  I'd bet that you couldn't go to any steak house better than the  Cowboy Dinner Tree.  They are word of mouth, and on web, from what I know.   You call for individual reservations, and you choose steak or chicken, that's it, no upselling, just the meal, big salad, cowboy baked beans by the pot, main item and home made biscuits, as much as you can eat, plus take home more in their bags, or your containers.  We get about 3 to 4 meals from the leftovers.  Beans and biscuits last 2 meals, cause we hate to be greedy.  Drinks, ice tea, lemonade, no alcohol beverages allowed inside.  Oh yeah, home made dessert to season, their choice.  One price per meal, at just under $50. each.  It isn't the price -- it's what you get for the bucks !!  I see big families order whole meals, then take another whole meal home for relatives.  Also visit and walk around the old time ranch, tools, and exhibits, dinner is an all afternoon deal.

WE eat early, around 4 to 5 to return before dark, and drive back to Sun River.   After the first trip we did rent a mini house cabin, not this time, thats summer fun.  This was a good long drive, through gorgeous high country desert.  The local town is Silverlake, but just look for the best route on line from your area.  You call for available time weeks in advance, and they are always loaded by sundown, La verne handles the details, I just drive the BBQ  getaway car.  If you don't see it, let me know and I can check what the route is for us,.

Have at It, nobody eats it all !!  -----  Cal


Re: Overnight at Dexter/Lowell marina

Electri-Cal
 

Huh!!  Sounds like a way to leave the boat in slip for up to 4 week ends on a "use as desired"  basis.  Then use it when you want to have access during good weather, work on trailer rails, or could save gas to not drag it back and forth.  I'd do that when I had friends visiting that might like a putt around, without the ramp hassle.  It's easier for some things, so I'm curious about the options of doing limited or short term rentals, at  other lakes, when they get fuller than now?

Theft is the big issue, and sounds like Dexter all locked up would be ok for that.  Cottage grove area,  Dorena looked abandoned the other day.  Dorena had a bunch of  ??? campers lounging and smokin: !!

How did Thursday lunch go ??? -----------  Cal


Re: Raster Nautical Charts -- Bye Bye Soon

Gerard Mittelstaedt
 

OK I went to the website and downloaded the whole big file if ALL

Chart Downloader for NOAA RNC®

The Raster Navigational Charts are available in BSB format.

I am unaware of that BSB format is or how to make it readable -
Suggestions - for each - one at a time.

- Gerard Mittelstaedt
McAllen, TX
PS some time ago I downloaded all the little small craft charts... qutie a list.
I am sure they are WAY out of date.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 4:14 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

I thought I had a set of NOAA raster charts from last year, but it
turned out to be from January of this year. I compared that 13th CGD
file list with the file list from the download the I made the other day.
No difference. Then I found a set of charts from 2017 and compared that
file list with one from this year. The only difference was that "Chart
531 Gulf of Alaska Strait of Juan de Fuca to Kodiak Island" was missing
in the newer file lists. A small scale chart like that, that's mostly
used to find larger scale charts, will work fine now, even though it's
four years out of date.

So, the sky hasn't fallen yet, but we need to keep track of what NOAA's
up to...

On 10/13/2021 1:31 PM, I wrote:
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I'm gonna make file listings for the unzipped
new downloads and older versions, then compare them using my text
editor. Then, until 2025, I'll regularly check with NOAA to see which
charts are are scheduled to be jettisoned.
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Re: The new "gassie" found me today

Richard Green
 

Ok, NOW we’re talking something really important!!  Where is the Cowboy Dinner Tree?  Finding a good steak is now worse than the proverbial needle in the haystack and I’m prepare to travel (as soon as wife’s just replaced hip permits) to find one.

Rich G

On Oct 15, 2021, at 8:07 AM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

As a  note, you are right John.  I meant that no unusual sounds came out,  With the cover off, nothing sounded amiss.  Yep, should have put some oil in the spark plug holes, and then done a second test.  I got all new lubricants coming in, after figuring what to get on line.  I have no factory instructions, so I'm not going someplace without a good look at what's correct.  There are special products for the smaller outboards, some that were for that year motor that need to be found,  Four strokers seem easier, like lawn mowers.  Oils have changed, and I don't want to do something not a good idea.  The best most comprehensive work on this is applied to the Mercury version.  No surprise there, but I try to follow several that agree, when I find them.  Some reports are obviously by idiots looking for anybody who will look at bad movies, and semi-obvious small mistakes. 

Like most, I have always done lube jobs putting enough to see NEW lube coming out.  "Filling short",  to leave partial old dead lube in place is common.  I say that in particular for lower unit leg and the swivel joint.  Mine does have a dry sound, which I don't like, but I will re fill both "zerks" when new lube gets in.  It looked like two different lubes were used, colorwise,  One of the things that might occur with different owners, will have to see by next week.

Got served a 42 oz, plus steak (roast) last night. Perfect, in every way, so we saved most of each for several more meals as usual.  The Cowboy Dinner Tree is worth every nickel for tender and flavorful meat.  Once a year in the past we would do this along with the Paulina coots trip.  Missed doing that, but the fall drive, with pronghorn deer as roadies, and an excellent meal are worth it, the reservations are weeks out sometimes.

Ready for More coffee this am, Later,  Cal


John Storm Transient Dock

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Re: Overnight at Dexter/Lowell marina

 

Better check to see if you get a key to the park gate when you rent a slip. <g> They had a problem after the Great Recession fell on us with people living on their boats at Dexter. Of course the State couldn't allow that! Some of the boats were pretty seedy, and some didn't have up-to-date registrations, but, IIRC, the response was to make it harder (impossible) to do at all, rather than addressing the problems...

On 10/15/2021 1:40 PM, Case wrote:
Seems like a bargain at $47 a month. Can’t even rent a motel room for $47 a night anywhere let alone a month.
If you weren’t to a campground and paid the nightly fee for a weekend you’d be at that price. More if you were at a fancy State campground and had full hook ups.
Do those rates go up during the on season? I’d be tempted to get a floating condo to put there.
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Re: Overnight at Dexter/Lowell marina

Case Turner
 

Seems like a bargain at $47 a month. Can’t even rent a motel room for $47 a night anywhere let alone a month.

If you weren’t to a campground and paid the nightly fee for a weekend you’d be at that price. More if you were at a fancy State campground and had full hook ups.

Do those rates go up during the on season? I’d be tempted to get a floating condo to put there.

Case

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On Oct 15, 2021, at 12:19 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

Thanks for checking, Bob. That's about what I remember hearing from the park host when I asked a similar question years ago.

On 10/15/2021 10:43 AM, Bob L wrote:
I received a call back from the lady at the State Parks Lowell office. She said the monthly marina slip rental was all they had---no short term rental. She offered that if we wanted to anchor out, she could offer permits to allow the cars and trailers to be behind the locked gates. With the short days, that is a bit restrictive, but a nice offer. Anchoring out is not as good as having land access for small boats. That is what is available. Bob
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Re: Reminder: Coots Thursday Lunch in Monroe

 

We had a real good lunch at the Long Timber Brewing Company yesterday. Some of us had their signature hamburger, which is HUGE, with two patties in it. Hard to eat, but delicious. Also expensive at $17. Charley had a Reuben for $15 that he said was as good as he's ever had. Wes had a salad with his burger, but they brought it out at the same time as the burger. I expect more civilized service for the kind of prices they get (last week at the Longbranch Wes got his salad ahead of time).

We ate inside. The main dining room is spacious, with high ceilings, and nobody else was sitting near us. We forgot to ask, but Wes says there are rooms upstairs we could maybe use to get away from other diners. It's a beautiful building, built with big timbers cut at the Hull-Oakes mill. There are interesting logging relics scattered around, too. Next time we should do a tour to check them all out. The outdoor area isn't all sealed up in the tent, and there are tables near the airier part. See attachment.

https://goo.gl/maps/iZ49SXTeyXGXu6CH9

https://restaurantguru.com/Long-Timber-Brewing-Company-Monroe-Oregon/menu

Our codgery of Coots liked the Long Timber, though I think it is a bit fancy for visiting every week. I liked the Longbranch better, if truth be told, except for the primitive outdoor seating area, which won't do for the colder, damper season that's on the way. Let's do the Long Timber again sometime, but let's try something else next week.

What about the hot dog stand in Lancaster next Thursday? I may check it out in person before then to see if it'll suit us.

https://goo.gl/maps/Sq7uKEY3x4okPfpC6

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