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Re: Looking For Boat Trailer

Randy Torgerson
 

When I read "...so they can assign a VIN" I thought stolen trailer. I have owned three EZ Loader trailers all of them have come with VIN's.

My insurance agent said that if I wanted my truck insurance to cover the trailer, the trailer needed to be registered. Anything on the trailer is not covered by the truck insurance regardless whether the trailer was registered or not but would be my my home owners policy.

I have trailer insurance as part of my boat insurance.

Randy


On June 17, 2021 10:27:51 AM PDT, Case Turner <dirtsailor2003@...> wrote:
Yep the main reason I title all my trailers is theft. My insurance agent told me long ago that if the trailer is stolen having it titled and registered makes it a lot easier to get your claim processed in a timely manner. 

Case

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On Jun 17, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Richard Green <chaos5@...> wrote:

My experience with trailers has been from WA to OR can occasionally be tedious but doable. Along with your experience, I always register trailers that are anywhere near marginal and sometimes less than near as a title makes things so much easier despite having to pay to renew. Trailer theft is the defining factor at times. Having said that the trailer my 13’ Livingston sits on is not titled as the all up weight is so low.

Rich

On Jun 17, 2021, at 2:33 AM, Case Turner <casesturner@...> wrote:

When I bought my cargo trailer (from a dealer new) just under 1,000 pounds (3,000#gvw) it wasn’t required to be titled or played. I went ahead and payed to title and register it. Same for the flat bed utility trailer I bought years ago, same dealer.

Probably a non issue and if one wanted to title and register it it probably wouldn’t be much of an issue as long as the guy has all of the original paperwork.

When I bought the Elver from the guy in Montana the trailer had no documentation but had been licensed in Montana. I got a bill of sale for it. Was easy trip to DMV to get it registered.

Case

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On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:55 PM, Richard Green <chaos5@...> wrote:

Hmmm, I just fully read the story on it. The guy is wrong when he says OR doesn’t register a trailer lighter than 1800 lbs. It’s the trailer and load that must weigh less than 1800 lbs so with a at least a 900 lb boat on this trailer it needs to be titled. It suggests to me there may be no title……...

Not sure what this means for the trailer if anything. Could be an issue in titleing about ownership.

Rich G

On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:08 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

Rich G spotted this:

https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/bpo/d/vancouver-ezloader-boat-trailer-17-to-22/7335833980.html


On 6/14/2021 8:01 PM, Randy T wrote:
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Re: Looking For Boat Trailer

Case Turner
 

Yep the main reason I title all my trailers is theft. My insurance agent told me long ago that if the trailer is stolen having it titled and registered makes it a lot easier to get your claim processed in a timely manner.

Case

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On Jun 17, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Richard Green <chaos5@viclink.com> wrote:

My experience with trailers has been from WA to OR can occasionally be tedious but doable. Along with your experience, I always register trailers that are anywhere near marginal and sometimes less than near as a title makes things so much easier despite having to pay to renew. Trailer theft is the defining factor at times. Having said that the trailer my 13’ Livingston sits on is not titled as the all up weight is so low.

Rich

On Jun 17, 2021, at 2:33 AM, Case Turner <casesturner@gmail.com> wrote:

When I bought my cargo trailer (from a dealer new) just under 1,000 pounds (3,000#gvw) it wasn’t required to be titled or played. I went ahead and payed to title and register it. Same for the flat bed utility trailer I bought years ago, same dealer.

Probably a non issue and if one wanted to title and register it it probably wouldn’t be much of an issue as long as the guy has all of the original paperwork.

When I bought the Elver from the guy in Montana the trailer had no documentation but had been licensed in Montana. I got a bill of sale for it. Was easy trip to DMV to get it registered.

Case

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On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:55 PM, Richard Green <chaos5@viclink.com> wrote:
Hmmm, I just fully read the story on it. The guy is wrong when he says OR doesn’t register a trailer lighter than 1800 lbs. It’s the trailer and load that must weigh less than 1800 lbs so with a at least a 900 lb boat on this trailer it needs to be titled. It suggests to me there may be no title……...

Not sure what this means for the trailer if anything. Could be an issue in titleing about ownership.

Rich G

On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:08 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Rich G spotted this:

https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/bpo/d/vancouver-ezloader-boat-trailer-17-to-22/7335833980.html


On 6/14/2021 8:01 PM, Randy T wrote:
[Need a Tolman Trailer]

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Re: Looking For Boat Trailer

Richard Green
 

My experience with trailers has been from WA to OR can occasionally be tedious but doable. Along with your experience, I always register trailers that are anywhere near marginal and sometimes less than near as a title makes things so much easier despite having to pay to renew. Trailer theft is the defining factor at times. Having said that the trailer my 13’ Livingston sits on is not titled as the all up weight is so low.

Rich

On Jun 17, 2021, at 2:33 AM, Case Turner <casesturner@gmail.com> wrote:

When I bought my cargo trailer (from a dealer new) just under 1,000 pounds (3,000#gvw) it wasn’t required to be titled or played. I went ahead and payed to title and register it. Same for the flat bed utility trailer I bought years ago, same dealer.

Probably a non issue and if one wanted to title and register it it probably wouldn’t be much of an issue as long as the guy has all of the original paperwork.

When I bought the Elver from the guy in Montana the trailer had no documentation but had been licensed in Montana. I got a bill of sale for it. Was easy trip to DMV to get it registered.

Case

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On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:55 PM, Richard Green <chaos5@viclink.com> wrote:

Hmmm, I just fully read the story on it. The guy is wrong when he says OR doesn’t register a trailer lighter than 1800 lbs. It’s the trailer and load that must weigh less than 1800 lbs so with a at least a 900 lb boat on this trailer it needs to be titled. It suggests to me there may be no title……...

Not sure what this means for the trailer if anything. Could be an issue in titleing about ownership.

Rich G

On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:08 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Rich G spotted this:

https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/bpo/d/vancouver-ezloader-boat-trailer-17-to-22/7335833980.html


On 6/14/2021 8:01 PM, Randy T wrote:
[Need a Tolman Trailer]

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Re: Looking For Boat Trailer

Case Turner
 

When I bought my cargo trailer (from a dealer new) just under 1,000 pounds (3,000#gvw) it wasn’t required to be titled or played. I went ahead and payed to title and register it. Same for the flat bed utility trailer I bought years ago, same dealer.

Probably a non issue and if one wanted to title and register it it probably wouldn’t be much of an issue as long as the guy has all of the original paperwork.

When I bought the Elver from the guy in Montana the trailer had no documentation but had been licensed in Montana. I got a bill of sale for it. Was easy trip to DMV to get it registered.

Case

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On Jun 16, 2021, at 10:55 PM, Richard Green <chaos5@viclink.com> wrote:

Hmmm, I just fully read the story on it. The guy is wrong when he says OR doesn’t register a trailer lighter than 1800 lbs. It’s the trailer and load that must weigh less than 1800 lbs so with a at least a 900 lb boat on this trailer it needs to be titled. It suggests to me there may be no title……...

Not sure what this means for the trailer if anything. Could be an issue in titleing about ownership.

Rich G

On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:08 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Rich G spotted this:

https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/bpo/d/vancouver-ezloader-boat-trailer-17-to-22/7335833980.html


On 6/14/2021 8:01 PM, Randy T wrote:
[Need a Tolman Trailer]

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Re: Looking For Boat Trailer

Richard Green
 

Hmmm, I just fully read the story on it. The guy is wrong when he says OR doesn’t register a trailer lighter than 1800 lbs. It’s the trailer and load that must weigh less than 1800 lbs so with a at least a 900 lb boat on this trailer it needs to be titled. It suggests to me there may be no title……...

Not sure what this means for the trailer if anything. Could be an issue in titleing about ownership.

Rich G

On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:08 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Rich G spotted this:

https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/bpo/d/vancouver-ezloader-boat-trailer-17-to-22/7335833980.html


On 6/14/2021 8:01 PM, Randy T wrote:
[Need a Tolman Trailer]

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Re: Looking For Boat Trailer

 

On 6/14/2021 8:01 PM, Randy T wrote:
[Need a Tolman Trailer]

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Re: Toledo Camping *was: spare V-6 truck?)

Case Turner
 

Ha I’ll definitely leave the bots at home! Might bring a canoe or kayak though.

Case

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On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:41 AM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Brief mention of Coot camping was made in the last Boat Show meeting. I'll ask for conformation that the usual camping in the field by the pavilion will be allowed.

No boats at all, Dirt? Or are you just gonna leave the robots at home? ;o)

On 6/16/2021 11:20 AM, Case wrote:
I’m hoping to make Toledo, assuming those that don’t have boTs can camp somewhere.
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Reminder: Coot Lunch Tomorrow at Fern Ridge

 

1:00 at Richardson Park.

OK, it is gonna be a little hot. If I get there first I'll be at the table in the shade by the sewage pumpout shed, if nobody moved it...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/EUGWX

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Toledo Camping *was: spare V-6 truck?)

 

Brief mention of Coot camping was made in the last Boat Show meeting. I'll ask for conformation that the usual camping in the field by the pavilion will be allowed.

No boats at all, Dirt? Or are you just gonna leave the robots at home? ;o)

On 6/16/2021 11:20 AM, Case wrote:
I’m hoping to make Toledo, assuming those that don’t have boTs can camp somewhere.
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The Spirit of Adventure

 

https://preview.tinyurl.com/f6vyyznk

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https://www.comicskingdom.com/shared_comics/f27e25a3-3a72-4739-82ca-3b2ff4f93c97

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Re: spare V-6 truck?

Case Turner
 

I’m hoping to make Toledo, assuming those that don’t have boTs can camp somewhere. 

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On Jun 16, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Mark Neuhaus <moonlitturtle1934@...> wrote:


Hi Case,

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:16 PM Case Turner <casesturner@...> wrote:

I feel your pain. I started looking for a new truck right after the pandemic hit. I wish I’d pulled the trigger before that or even 8 months later. 

Yeah, I looked right after I bought the truck just over a year ago, and the exact truck I wanted was sitting on a Salem lot, price actually dropping because it wasn't 4WD and wasn't gussied up for off roading.  I was shocked at how much it cost, not having looked at prices for the ten years since I bought my truck brand new in 2011. I hoped it would drop more as the pandemic spread and the new models would be coming out, but, alas, it got transferred to a Corvallis lot with a much higher price, and must have been sold shortly thereafter.  Didn't bother to look at trucks again until a couple of months ago.  Yep, I missed my chance last year........ 
 
I’m all set for years to come now! 

I would say so. Looks nice!  You planning to bring that rig over to Cathlamet or Toledo this year?  I've got the frozen shrimp and beer batter ready for your latest cooking contraption.  :-)

Mark


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Re: spare V-6 truck?

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi Case,

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:16 PM Case Turner <casesturner@...> wrote:

I feel your pain. I started looking for a new truck right after the pandemic hit. I wish I’d pulled the trigger before that or even 8 months later. 

Yeah, I looked right after I bought the truck just over a year ago, and the exact truck I wanted was sitting on a Salem lot, price actually dropping because it wasn't 4WD and wasn't gussied up for off roading.  I was shocked at how much it cost, not having looked at prices for the ten years since I bought my truck brand new in 2011. I hoped it would drop more as the pandemic spread and the new models would be coming out, but, alas, it got transferred to a Corvallis lot with a much higher price, and must have been sold shortly thereafter.  Didn't bother to look at trucks again until a couple of months ago.  Yep, I missed my chance last year........ 
 
I’m all set for years to come now! 

I would say so. Looks nice!  You planning to bring that rig over to Cathlamet or Toledo this year?  I've got the frozen shrimp and beer batter ready for your latest cooking contraption.  :-)

Mark


Re: spare V-6 truck?

Case Turner
 

Mark,

I feel your pain. I started looking for a new truck right after the pandemic hit. I wish I’d pulled the trigger before that or even 8 months later. 

Buying a new vehicle is definitely a new process. I had to put a deposit down to hold the truck. The deposit was refundable if I decided not to buy the truck. 

Actually it was nice not having to haggle and do all the typical sales stuff. 

I’m all set for years to come now! 

Dirt





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On Jun 15, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Mark Neuhaus <moonlitturtle1934@...> wrote:


Hi Jove,

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 2:02 PM Jove Lachman-Curl <jovelc87@...> wrote:

Does that mean you'll be selling the Tacoma?
If so let us know, I have a friend who's looking. He's 29, and recently got his contractors license. 

I'm assuming you are addressing this query to me about my Tacoma.

When I started looking for a brand new Tacoma, minimally equipped, I found that they were few and far between.  Then the chip shortage hit and it's bye-bye to my quest.  And of course, the used truck prices went through the roof also.  

So, unless someone points me to a good deal, I will wait it out.  I know I can safely launch the Tolman with my truck at the moorage where I've stored it in a lot since buying it last year. I've towed it to the Scappoose area as a test, but that's a fairly level stretch of road.  Getting it to Toledo or Cathlamet would entail large hills.  I figure I can use it in the Portland area, and even take it by water to Cathlamet.  And I can take my lighter Moonlit Turtle to Toledo, something I've done many times.

Even if I did find a truck, I'm afraid my brother has been hounding me to sell it to him at a "family" discount.  :-)   So I won't be able to help out your friend, sorry.

Mark


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Re: spare V-6 truck?

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi Jove,

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 2:02 PM Jove Lachman-Curl <jovelc87@...> wrote:

Does that mean you'll be selling the Tacoma?
If so let us know, I have a friend who's looking. He's 29, and recently got his contractors license. 

I'm assuming you are addressing this query to me about my Tacoma.

When I started looking for a brand new Tacoma, minimally equipped, I found that they were few and far between.  Then the chip shortage hit and it's bye-bye to my quest.  And of course, the used truck prices went through the roof also.  

So, unless someone points me to a good deal, I will wait it out.  I know I can safely launch the Tolman with my truck at the moorage where I've stored it in a lot since buying it last year. I've towed it to the Scappoose area as a test, but that's a fairly level stretch of road.  Getting it to Toledo or Cathlamet would entail large hills.  I figure I can use it in the Portland area, and even take it by water to Cathlamet.  And I can take my lighter Moonlit Turtle to Toledo, something I've done many times.

Even if I did find a truck, I'm afraid my brother has been hounding me to sell it to him at a "family" discount.  :-)   So I won't be able to help out your friend, sorry.

Mark


Thursday Coots Lunch at Fern Ridge

 

1:00 at Richardson Park, somewhere near the docks. I've got an extra parking pass, if you need one. It's supposed to be a nice day, warm but not hot. :o)

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Re: spare V-6 truck?

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

Does that mean you'll be selling the Tacoma?
If so let us know, I have a friend who's looking. He's 29, and recently got his contractors license. 
-Jove

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 9:34 AM David Graybeal via groups.io <harbordavid=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I'll keep an eye out.

I agree about not pushing the limits.  Even though the Tundra is rated for 6,700#... with rare exceptions I like to keep it to 80-85% of that. 


Re: Looking For Boat Trailer

Randy Torgerson
 


Myles,


I am considering renting a trailer if another solution does not present itself.  In addition to the great trailer and Tacoma V6 shortage there are also the great helm seat and outboard motor shortage.  I ordered the helm seats several months ago and they may arrive later this month or early next.  I am paying full price for them but I don’t have to pay until they ship.  I have been told that outboard dealers are asking for 50% deposits and prices above list for the motors.  The Suzuki 90 that I want for the main motor has a 5 month wait time which means I won’t get it this season; I have decided to wait before ordering it.  I am going to put my 9.9 kicker on the Tolman for launching and retrieval but I would not like to take the Tolman to Cathlamet only using the kicker.  


The Tolman won’t be finished by August but I am hoping that I have completed enough that at least I can have some fun with it this summer.  


Randy


Re: SOmething Else Interesting out at Pat and Kay's Place

 

That's a half-model of a Chesapeake Bay skipjack. Low chine, cross-planked bottom, a big chunk of carved wood for the forefoot. A good teaching tool for showing how they're built -- if you can get it into the classroom. ;o)

Pat's boat is a high-chined "northern skipjack" that would have had a longitudinally planked bottom if it hadn't been planked with plywood. Let's hope it looks better than that Chesapeake skipjack when the tarps come off. <g>

http://www.coots.org/Misc/PatsSkipjack/PatsSkipjack.pdf

A better link to the photo of the half-model:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ym9fwvdy

or

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/200830939_6445467392137424_3164824929985079050_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=oGgfDoMKc70AX9AGrWp&_nc_oc=AQn4MEc6pVBkagbdxaDbRAKBZ2vWH73SKhhDFcX2XDbsIETSgCQMzfSZJTDSGRIL5bg&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=c80d721105a3b9c4899c2a25dc2f06fa&oe=60CBFFC1


On 6/14/2021 8:59 AM, David G wrote:
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Re: spare V-6 truck?

David Graybeal
 

I'll keep an eye out.

I agree about not pushing the limits.  Even though the Tundra is rated for 6,700#... with rare exceptions I like to keep it to 80-85% of that. 


spare V-6 truck?

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi group,

While you folks are looking for a trailer for Randy's Tolman, how about keeping an eye open for a dirt cheap, only driven to church on Sundays type of truck with a V-6 engine so I can feel safer towing my Tolman.  My boat/trailer weighs in at 2700 lbs dry and empty and I suspect that by the time it's loaded for the road, it will be pushing my Tacoma's (4 cyl) 3500 lb towing weight limit.  I know there are folks who ignore the tow rating of their vehicle, but I'm not one of them. I'd feel safer with a heavier and stronger vehicle.

Thanks,
Mark

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