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Re: Pat Pateson's Scandal For Sale

 

The motor is a 1969 Evinrude 4HP “Yacht Twin”. Those things are just about indestructible, and the parts that can fail are still available.

I'm afraid you're right about odd little homemade boats not bringing top dollar, and it's hard to find a a buyer who'll appreciate them as well. <sigh> When I get a couple of recent photos I plan on listing it on the Pocket Yachters for sale page. That'll reach some folks who like our kind of boats.

The article Pat wrote for Duckworks pretty well says everything about the construction and performance of his Scandal:

https://www.duckworksmagazine.com/07/projects/scandal/

A while back the NW School of Wooden Boatbuilding built a batch of Scandals, and called them _rowboats_! Somebody there was unclear on the concept. <g> I'll bet that wouldn't have happened on Pete's watch. ;o) The Atkins designed a bunch of good flat-bottom skiff rowboats, and combination oar and outboard boats they could have built if they wanted rowboats...

I knew I could count on Pete. :o) When the School built a Scandal in 2013 there was none of that nonsense about calling it a rowboat. <g> I wonder if seeing Pat's Scandal at the PT Festival is what prompted the NWSWB to build them?

https://www.woodenboat.com/boat-launchings/scandal-skiff

On 6/11/2021 10:23 PM, David G wrote:
I took a peek at it the other day when I was out there also, and it looked like it hasn't suffered at all from a long outdoor (under tarp) storage. Pat did his usual solid job of construction. The outboard was a good, reliable, runner every time I was around it. Paint job is Pat's usual good/not fancy work.
Hard to know how to price it. Boat, trailer, outboard, oars. Maybe $1,00 - 1,500? It's really worth more than that... but hard to sell a quirky used boat. Maybe if advertised at the right venue??
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Re: Pat Pateson's Scandal For Sale

 

Some of these photos are different...

https://flic.kr/s/aHsiD9HYfX

On 6/11/2021 10:01 PM, I wrote:
I had a long talk with Kay this evening. She's beginning to clear out the shop and boats on her property, and specifically wanted help selling Pat's Scandal.
I'm terrible about placing a value on boats. I have no idea what Scandal (the boat's name as well as its design) is worth. Can any of you Coots help? What's this boat worth. Be honest. What would YOU sell it for?
https://preview.tinyurl.com/dze6wvua
or
https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=43145927%40N00&sort=date-taken-desc&text=scandal&view_all=1 Pat built the boat to William Atkin's Scandal design from the 1920s, but using plywood planking. Scandal was designed to get "high" speed from the 3 hp. outboard motors that were the norm Back Then, but also be a useful everyday boat. Pat's Scandal worked very well, going "fast" and being a good boat for just messing about:
http://www.atkinboatplans.com/Oar/Scandal.html
https://www.duckworksmagazine.com/07/projects/scandal/
Pat's boat is built very well, but he didn't use the best quality plywood. His son pulled it out of storage the other day and it was dry and in excellent condition. It's on a modified lightweight Hobie Cat trailer and comes with an early '70s vintage (or thereabouts, see pictures) Johnnyrude 4 hp. motor that ran good when it was parked, and has been stored in the shop. Kay said there's a set of oars from their Rapid Robert that she'll throw in. If I didn't already have too many boats I'd be awfully tempted to buy the Scandal. <g> It's a handy sort of boat to have around. Quick and easy to launch and retrieve. Doesn't use much gas. Good for poking around the interesting corners we Coots like. :o)
You can find discussions about building Scandal in the group archives:
https://groups.io/g/oregoncoots/topics
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Re: Pat Pateson's Scandal For Sale

David Graybeal
 

I took a peek at it the other day when I was out there also, and it looked like it hasn't suffered at all from a long outdoor (under tarp) storage. Pat did his usual solid job of construction. The outboard was a good, reliable, runner every time I was around it. Paint job is Pat's usual good/not fancy work. 

Hard to know how to price it. Boat, trailer, outboard, oars. Maybe $1,00 - 1,500? It's really worth more than that... but hard to sell a quirky used boat. Maybe if advertised at the right venue??


Pat Pateson's Scandal For Sale

 

I had a long talk with Kay this evening. She's beginning to clear out the shop and boats on her property, and specifically wanted help selling Pat's Scandal.

I'm terrible about placing a value on boats. I have no idea what Scandal (the boat's name as well as its design) is worth. Can any of you Coots help? What's this boat worth. Be honest. What would YOU sell it for?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/dze6wvua

or

https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=43145927%40N00&sort=date-taken-desc&text=scandal&view_all=1

Pat built the boat to William Atkin's Scandal design from the 1920s, but using plywood planking. Scandal was designed to get "high" speed from the 3 hp. outboard motors that were the norm Back Then, but also be a useful everyday boat. Pat's Scandal worked very well, going "fast" and being a good boat for just messing about:

http://www.atkinboatplans.com/Oar/Scandal.html

https://www.duckworksmagazine.com/07/projects/scandal/

Pat's boat is built very well, but he didn't use the best quality plywood. His son pulled it out of storage the other day and it was dry and in excellent condition. It's on a modified lightweight Hobie Cat trailer and comes with an early '70s vintage (or thereabouts, see pictures) Johnnyrude 4 hp. motor that ran good when it was parked, and has been stored in the shop. Kay said there's a set of oars from their Rapid Robert that she'll throw in. If I didn't already have too many boats I'd be awfully tempted to buy the Scandal. <g> It's a handy sort of boat to have around. Quick and easy to launch and retrieve. Doesn't use much gas. Good for poking around the interesting corners we Coots like. :o)

You can find discussions about building Scandal in the group archives:

https://groups.io/g/oregoncoots/topics

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Bowpickers

Case Turner
 

A short article on bowpickers


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Re: Thursday Coots Lunch at Fern Ridge

 

Just a reminder. Let's get back to having a Coot Lunch every Thursday, somewhere.

On 6/8/2021 1:50 PM, I wrote:
1:00 at Richardson Park, somewhere near the docks. I've got an extra parking pass, if you need one. It's supposed to be a nice day, warm but not hot. :o)
https://preview.tinyurl.com/EUGWX
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Coot Memorial Gatjering at Toledo (was: Toledo Messabout, August 20-22nd)

 

I'll never forget Lon! :o) I first mentioned Coots we haven't given a sendoff yet, because of the Dread Virus. Here are some Coots who went to Fiddler's Green before the Pandemic:

Lon Wells ?-2020
Darrell Pepper 1934-2016
Jim Ballou ?-2014
Carolyn Bullard 1941-2012
Kate Wells ?-2008

I hope I didn't miss anyone. If so, I'm terribly sorry.

And those we didn't give a sendoff because the Covid screwed everything up:

Bob Mitsch 1940-2021
Pat Pateson ?-2019

On 6/9/2021 11:57 AM, Case wrote:
Don’t forget about Lon..
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Re: Toledo Messabout, August 20-22nd

Case Turner
 

Don’t forget about Lon..


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On Jun 9, 2021, at 11:05 AM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

We're gonna have a messabout for Coots, and other Boat Show exhibitors, at Toledo the weekend we usually have the Boat Show. Some steamboats will probably show up. The public is not invited, and this messabout won't be listed in the online Coot's Schedule. We'll eat pizza and BS, and maybe even do some boating. :o)

Since the Covid has messed with our opportunities to give a proper sendoff to Coots we've lost recently, there will be a memorial gathering sometime during the weekend. We'll be honoring Bob Mitch and Pat Pateson, of course, but perhaps we can give some time to all the Coots who have moved on to Fiddler's Green. If we give Bud their names, he's got something special in mind.

The Teak Ladies sail from Newport to Toledo will also take place that weekend. More details on which day, and the logistics, will emerge between now and then.

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Toledo Messabout, August 20-22nd

 

We're gonna have a messabout for Coots, and other Boat Show exhibitors, at Toledo the weekend we usually have the Boat Show. Some steamboats will probably show up. The public is not invited, and this messabout won't be listed in the online Coot's Schedule. We'll eat pizza and BS, and maybe even do some boating. :o)

Since the Covid has messed with our opportunities to give a proper sendoff to Coots we've lost recently, there will be a memorial gathering sometime during the weekend. We'll be honoring Bob Mitch and Pat Pateson, of course, but perhaps we can give some time to all the Coots who have moved on to Fiddler's Green. If we give Bud their names, he's got something special in mind.

The Teak Ladies sail from Newport to Toledo will also take place that weekend. More details on which day, and the logistics, will emerge between now and then.

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NO Toledo Wooden Boats Show this year

 

Due to continuing COVID concerns there will be NO Toledo Wooden Boat Show this year. The Port of Toledo is working on making the Boat Show bigger and better next year.

https://www.portoftoledo.org/copy-of-wooden-boat-show

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Teak Ladies Sail Postponed Until August

 

Due to expected inclement weather, the Teak Ladies sail from Newport to Toledo has been postponed until August. These things are supposed to be fun. <g>

Also, the Teak Ladies Society Executive Director, David, is scheduled for surgery in a couple of weeks. Let's hope the surgery goes well and that it does the trick.

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Teak Lady Sail

Joe Novello
 

Hi All,

The Teak Lady Sail that was scheduled for this weekend is postponed due to inclement weather.  We will reschedule for a time later this summer. 


Joe Novello

 


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Thursday Coots Lunch at Fern Ridge

 

1:00 at Richardson Park, somewhere near the docks. I've got an extra parking pass, if you need one. It's supposed to be a nice day, warm but not hot. :o)

https://preview.tinyurl.com/EUGWX

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Some More Pix from Fern Ridge

 

Bruce Hays was out in his Paul Gartside sloop, Naima, and we watched some of the Thursday night racing. Scroll down for the new ones:

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmVsND3V

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Coot Stickers (was: New Coot Cards)

 

Yes, front adhesive stickers are great for car and boat windows. I did the first batch of Coot Stickers with adhesive on the back because they're more versatile, but...

Any of you can use these graphics to have some stickers made, as long as you sell them cheap. At least one of these formats should work:

https://groups.io/g/oregoncoots/files/Paraphernalia

BTW, I'm gonna move all the "gear" files to this directory so they'll be easier to find.

On 6/5/2021 6:08 PM, David G wrote:
My interest in the 'front adhesive' version is for putting inside a window and not having them weather off.. A fate my two have suffered. If there's not enough interest, I'll just order a batch of the existing type and count on replacing them periodically.
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Re: New Coot Cards

David Graybeal
 

My interest in the 'front adhesive' version is for putting inside a window and not having them weather off.. A fate my two have suffered. If there's not enough interest, I'll just order a batch of the existing type and count on replacing them periodically.


Re: New Coot Cards

 

Everyone is free to use the Coot Card graphics.

On 6/4/2021 3:04 PM, Josh wrote:
Doubt I'll get to it soon but can I have permission to use your graphics to have my business card printer make up a bunch?
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Re: New Coot Cards

 

I've got the stickers. 50¢ apiece, plus 75¢ per order (up to one ounce) for postage and envelope.

If there's enough interest in stickers with adhesive on the front I can get some. I don't recall what the minimum order was...

On 6/4/2021 9:17 PM, David G wrote:
Related question -- who has the little round Coot stickers?
Second question - those stickers have the adhesive on the back. Is there anyone beside me who'd be interested in some with adhesive on the face?
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Bibendum Goes Sailing

 

Michelin enters the field of sail auxiliary power for ships with a clever design -- that even resembles the Michelin Man!

https://youtu.be/No6qTbn0J4s

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Re: New Coot Cards

David Graybeal
 

Related question -- who has the little round Coot stickers?  

Second question - those stickers have the adhesive on the back. Is there anyone beside me who'd be interested in some with adhesive on the face?

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