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Re: Victory

 

I'd like to see some footage of what's going on in the wheelhouse when Thunder Child land after flying through the air off of the top of a wave. <g> Somewhere I saw a video of a new RNLI lifeboat being tried out by the crew at her assigned station. There were shots inside the wheelhouse of smiling lifeboatmen sitting in sprung seats with what looked like at least a couple of feet of travel! :o) But the boat wasn't flying through the air like Thunder Child. <g>

The Thunder Child video doesn't give much time to what happens when the waves get to bad for flying through the air. Mentioning that the boat just tries to get along slowly and keep her crew safe. I'll bet it's a handful in a following sea with that fat ass...

BTW, the RNLI is an interesting organization. Almost all the lifeboatmen and lifeboatwomen (or are they all "lifeboatmen" whatever their sex, like all commercial fishermen?) are volunteers, and the Institution is a charity. It's also something that the Irish and English agree on. ;o)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_National_Lifeboat_Institution

On 2/2/2021 10:50 PM, Jove wrote:
This is "thunder child" a high speed ocean rescue and interceptor.
Designed and built in Cork, where I went to college, although I only learned of these guys after I left for the USA.
More boats bouncing over big waves from the safety of my couch. :)
https://vimeo.com/202978684 <https://vimeo.com/202978684>
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Re: Victory

Case Turner
 

No Newport does not have a cutter. The Victory is it!

Sent from not here

On Feb 3, 2021, at 11:15 AM, George C via groups.io <glcost2=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Newport has a CG Cutter, right? Disabled vessels will have to wait longer for help.


Re: Victory

George Costakis
 

Newport has a CG Cutter, right?  Disabled vessels will have to wait longer for help.


On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 4:43:19 AM PST, Case Turner <casesturner@...> wrote:


Roger wrote:

“You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.

How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?”

Where the 52’ really shines is it’s long range towing capabilities. The range and the amount that it can safely tow is considerably more that that if the 47’. For Newport with its large commercial fleet the Victory has been a workhorse its entire service.

Hard shoes to fill for sure when she won’t be able Tom make those long runs to tow home a disabled boat.

Case

> On Feb 2, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Roger Padvorac <roger@...> wrote:
>
> You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.
>
> How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?


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Re: Victory

George Costakis
 

Hi Dan,

It's more of a combination. Traditional double-ender with the planing bottom of the 47... so even more capable, haha.

That was a memorable day cruising up to Newport. Funny thing, I remember it as a warm sunny day and forgot about the foggy morning.

I like the photo you sent towing your boat in the snow too.

George

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021, 2:03:57 AM PST, Dan <danashore@...> wrote:


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Re: Victory

Case Turner
 

Roger wrote:

“You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.

How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?”

Where the 52’ really shines is it’s long range towing capabilities. The range and the amount that it can safely tow is considerably more that that if the 47’. For Newport with its large commercial fleet the Victory has been a workhorse its entire service.

Hard shoes to fill for sure when she won’t be able Tom make those long runs to tow home a disabled boat.

Case

On Feb 2, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Roger Padvorac <roger@skilledwright.com> wrote:

You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.

How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?
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Re: Victory

Dan
 

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Re: Victory

George Costakis
 

Yea, I was wondering the same. The video shows a good comparison in their behavior. Victory has a natural fore and aft rock and side to side roll response while the 47' seems forced. Victory does have a displacement hull and is a double-ender and the 47 is a planing hull with a wide stern. Still seems to be more to it.


On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 10:34:52 PM PST, Jove Lachman-Curl <jovelc87@...> wrote:


Great video, thanks for sharing.
I'm curious why the 52 seems to climb higher off a wave, and dive deeper, someone said less damped, but how does one damp a hull in as it crashes into a wave? ribs or chines might dive in less efficiently which would be damping I suppose. The 47 is a playing hull that is ribbed.
-Jove

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 8:26 PM George C via groups.io <glcost2=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Roger,

The article that John linked in his original post gave the example of a failed generator resulting in losing the radar and navigation system during a rescue. Anyways, I'm sure there are much more systems on this boat then just the engine and steering.

George

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 8:00:46 PM PST, Roger Padvorac <roger@...> wrote:



I'm ignoring most email for the time being, but wondered at the size 
and subject of this one.

Previously I hadn't paid attention to the difference between the 52' 
and 47' boats.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47-foot_Motor_Lifeboat
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52-foot_Motor_Lifeboat

In short, the 47' boat is a wimp compared to the 52' boat.

You are right, they are amazing - the pictures in those Wikipedia 
articles says it all.

I'd be very surprised if this country builds a useful replacement for 
the 52' boats. The navy has a pretty poor track record for the last 
decade.

Every day I take a look at RT.com because its a reliable source of bad 
news that will affect my life (like efforts to cut Social Security). 
There are a surprising number of WA/OR articles there. I also read 
some of the compare and contrast opinion essays there.

Our culture has lost the competence of the mid 20th century - too many 
people stopped doing the hard thankless work of cultural stewardship 
and we've lost a lot of our cultural capital.

* * * *
The 47' boats started coming into service in 1997, and there are 227 
of them, so they will be around for a while.

You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.

How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat 
is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?

I've survived my adventures by paying attention to the fallback 
options, which is why I put some thought into this subject, once I 
took a look at it.

* * * *
After I thought a bit, I wondered, what do you mean by old?

Engines and steering gear can be rebuilt or replaced, and on a boat 
like this there isn't much else that is essential, expensive, and 
takes a lot of work to maintain.

Why don't they just replace the engines and steering gear?

Sincerely,
Roger

Quoting John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>:

> Victory's my favorite CG boat too, with the other steel 52-footers 
> close behind. But they're Old. It's getting so it's hard to keep 
> them going, so Victory sits idle, waiting to be used only when her 
> capabilities are _really_ needed. I'll miss the 52s when they're 
> gone, but their replacements should have been ready years ago. 
> <sigh> I hope when the replacements for the 52-footers are finally 
> developed and built that they perform as well in the really awful 
> stuff as Victory, but I'll bet they won't have as much class as she 
> has.
>
> On 2/1/2021 1:25 PM, Case wrote:
>> My favorite CG boat ever. Pretty amazing boat.
>>
>> I got to go for a short cruise on her across the bay once.
>>
>>> https://newportnewstimes.com/article/victory-the-queen-of-the-fleet
>
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Re: Victory

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

This is "thunder child" a high speed ocean rescue and interceptor.
Designed and built in Cork, where I went to college, although I only learned of these guys after I left for the USA.
More boats bouncing over big waves from the safety of my couch. :)
-Jove


On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:34 PM Jove Lachman-Curl via groups.io <jovelc87=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Great video, thanks for sharing.
I'm curious why the 52 seems to climb higher off a wave, and dive deeper, someone said less damped, but how does one damp a hull in as it crashes into a wave? ribs or chines might dive in less efficiently which would be damping I suppose. The 47 is a playing hull that is ribbed.
-Jove

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 8:26 PM George C via groups.io <glcost2=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Roger,

The article that John linked in his original post gave the example of a failed generator resulting in losing the radar and navigation system during a rescue. Anyways, I'm sure there are much more systems on this boat then just the engine and steering.

George

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 8:00:46 PM PST, Roger Padvorac <roger@...> wrote:



I'm ignoring most email for the time being, but wondered at the size 
and subject of this one.

Previously I hadn't paid attention to the difference between the 52' 
and 47' boats.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47-foot_Motor_Lifeboat
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52-foot_Motor_Lifeboat

In short, the 47' boat is a wimp compared to the 52' boat.

You are right, they are amazing - the pictures in those Wikipedia 
articles says it all.

I'd be very surprised if this country builds a useful replacement for 
the 52' boats. The navy has a pretty poor track record for the last 
decade.

Every day I take a look at RT.com because its a reliable source of bad 
news that will affect my life (like efforts to cut Social Security). 
There are a surprising number of WA/OR articles there. I also read 
some of the compare and contrast opinion essays there.

Our culture has lost the competence of the mid 20th century - too many 
people stopped doing the hard thankless work of cultural stewardship 
and we've lost a lot of our cultural capital.

* * * *
The 47' boats started coming into service in 1997, and there are 227 
of them, so they will be around for a while.

You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.

How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat 
is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?

I've survived my adventures by paying attention to the fallback 
options, which is why I put some thought into this subject, once I 
took a look at it.

* * * *
After I thought a bit, I wondered, what do you mean by old?

Engines and steering gear can be rebuilt or replaced, and on a boat 
like this there isn't much else that is essential, expensive, and 
takes a lot of work to maintain.

Why don't they just replace the engines and steering gear?

Sincerely,
Roger

Quoting John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>:

> Victory's my favorite CG boat too, with the other steel 52-footers 
> close behind. But they're Old. It's getting so it's hard to keep 
> them going, so Victory sits idle, waiting to be used only when her 
> capabilities are _really_ needed. I'll miss the 52s when they're 
> gone, but their replacements should have been ready years ago. 
> <sigh> I hope when the replacements for the 52-footers are finally 
> developed and built that they perform as well in the really awful 
> stuff as Victory, but I'll bet they won't have as much class as she 
> has.
>
> On 2/1/2021 1:25 PM, Case wrote:
>> My favorite CG boat ever. Pretty amazing boat.
>>
>> I got to go for a short cruise on her across the bay once.
>>
>>> https://newportnewstimes.com/article/victory-the-queen-of-the-fleet
>
> --
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> hornets break through. (Jonathan Swift)
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Re: Victory

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

Great video, thanks for sharing.
I'm curious why the 52 seems to climb higher off a wave, and dive deeper, someone said less damped, but how does one damp a hull in as it crashes into a wave? ribs or chines might dive in less efficiently which would be damping I suppose. The 47 is a playing hull that is ribbed.
-Jove

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 8:26 PM George C via groups.io <glcost2=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Roger,

The article that John linked in his original post gave the example of a failed generator resulting in losing the radar and navigation system during a rescue. Anyways, I'm sure there are much more systems on this boat then just the engine and steering.

George

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 8:00:46 PM PST, Roger Padvorac <roger@...> wrote:



I'm ignoring most email for the time being, but wondered at the size 
and subject of this one.

Previously I hadn't paid attention to the difference between the 52' 
and 47' boats.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47-foot_Motor_Lifeboat
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52-foot_Motor_Lifeboat

In short, the 47' boat is a wimp compared to the 52' boat.

You are right, they are amazing - the pictures in those Wikipedia 
articles says it all.

I'd be very surprised if this country builds a useful replacement for 
the 52' boats. The navy has a pretty poor track record for the last 
decade.

Every day I take a look at RT.com because its a reliable source of bad 
news that will affect my life (like efforts to cut Social Security). 
There are a surprising number of WA/OR articles there. I also read 
some of the compare and contrast opinion essays there.

Our culture has lost the competence of the mid 20th century - too many 
people stopped doing the hard thankless work of cultural stewardship 
and we've lost a lot of our cultural capital.

* * * *
The 47' boats started coming into service in 1997, and there are 227 
of them, so they will be around for a while.

You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.

How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat 
is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?

I've survived my adventures by paying attention to the fallback 
options, which is why I put some thought into this subject, once I 
took a look at it.

* * * *
After I thought a bit, I wondered, what do you mean by old?

Engines and steering gear can be rebuilt or replaced, and on a boat 
like this there isn't much else that is essential, expensive, and 
takes a lot of work to maintain.

Why don't they just replace the engines and steering gear?

Sincerely,
Roger

Quoting John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>:

> Victory's my favorite CG boat too, with the other steel 52-footers 
> close behind. But they're Old. It's getting so it's hard to keep 
> them going, so Victory sits idle, waiting to be used only when her 
> capabilities are _really_ needed. I'll miss the 52s when they're 
> gone, but their replacements should have been ready years ago. 
> <sigh> I hope when the replacements for the 52-footers are finally 
> developed and built that they perform as well in the really awful 
> stuff as Victory, but I'll bet they won't have as much class as she 
> has.
>
> On 2/1/2021 1:25 PM, Case wrote:
>> My favorite CG boat ever. Pretty amazing boat.
>>
>> I got to go for a short cruise on her across the bay once.
>>
>>> https://newportnewstimes.com/article/victory-the-queen-of-the-fleet
>
> --
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> hornets break through. (Jonathan Swift)
>
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Re: Victory

George Costakis
 

Roger,

The article that John linked in his original post gave the example of a failed generator resulting in losing the radar and navigation system during a rescue. Anyways, I'm sure there are much more systems on this boat then just the engine and steering.

George

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 8:00:46 PM PST, Roger Padvorac <roger@...> wrote:



I'm ignoring most email for the time being, but wondered at the size 
and subject of this one.

Previously I hadn't paid attention to the difference between the 52' 
and 47' boats.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47-foot_Motor_Lifeboat
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52-foot_Motor_Lifeboat

In short, the 47' boat is a wimp compared to the 52' boat.

You are right, they are amazing - the pictures in those Wikipedia 
articles says it all.

I'd be very surprised if this country builds a useful replacement for 
the 52' boats. The navy has a pretty poor track record for the last 
decade.

Every day I take a look at RT.com because its a reliable source of bad 
news that will affect my life (like efforts to cut Social Security). 
There are a surprising number of WA/OR articles there. I also read 
some of the compare and contrast opinion essays there.

Our culture has lost the competence of the mid 20th century - too many 
people stopped doing the hard thankless work of cultural stewardship 
and we've lost a lot of our cultural capital.

* * * *
The 47' boats started coming into service in 1997, and there are 227 
of them, so they will be around for a while.

You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.

How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat 
is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?

I've survived my adventures by paying attention to the fallback 
options, which is why I put some thought into this subject, once I 
took a look at it.

* * * *
After I thought a bit, I wondered, what do you mean by old?

Engines and steering gear can be rebuilt or replaced, and on a boat 
like this there isn't much else that is essential, expensive, and 
takes a lot of work to maintain.

Why don't they just replace the engines and steering gear?

Sincerely,
Roger

Quoting John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>:

> Victory's my favorite CG boat too, with the other steel 52-footers 
> close behind. But they're Old. It's getting so it's hard to keep 
> them going, so Victory sits idle, waiting to be used only when her 
> capabilities are _really_ needed. I'll miss the 52s when they're 
> gone, but their replacements should have been ready years ago. 
> <sigh> I hope when the replacements for the 52-footers are finally 
> developed and built that they perform as well in the really awful 
> stuff as Victory, but I'll bet they won't have as much class as she 
> has.
>
> On 2/1/2021 1:25 PM, Case wrote:
>> My favorite CG boat ever. Pretty amazing boat.
>>
>> I got to go for a short cruise on her across the bay once.
>>
>>> https://newportnewstimes.com/article/victory-the-queen-of-the-fleet
>
> --
> John <jkohnen@...>
> Laws are like cobwebs which may catch small flies, but let wasps and 
> hornets break through. (Jonathan Swift)
>
>
>
> --
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Re: Victory

Roger Padvorac
 

I'm ignoring most email for the time being, but wondered at the size and subject of this one.

Previously I hadn't paid attention to the difference between the 52' and 47' boats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/47-foot_Motor_Lifeboat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52-foot_Motor_Lifeboat

In short, the 47' boat is a wimp compared to the 52' boat.

You are right, they are amazing - the pictures in those Wikipedia articles says it all.

I'd be very surprised if this country builds a useful replacement for the 52' boats. The navy has a pretty poor track record for the last decade.

Every day I take a look at RT.com because its a reliable source of bad news that will affect my life (like efforts to cut Social Security). There are a surprising number of WA/OR articles there. I also read some of the compare and contrast opinion essays there.

Our culture has lost the competence of the mid 20th century - too many people stopped doing the hard thankless work of cultural stewardship and we've lost a lot of our cultural capital.

* * * *
The 47' boats started coming into service in 1997, and there are 227 of them, so they will be around for a while.

You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.

How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?

I've survived my adventures by paying attention to the fallback options, which is why I put some thought into this subject, once I took a look at it.

* * * *
After I thought a bit, I wondered, what do you mean by old?

Engines and steering gear can be rebuilt or replaced, and on a boat like this there isn't much else that is essential, expensive, and takes a lot of work to maintain.

Why don't they just replace the engines and steering gear?

Sincerely,
Roger

Quoting John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com>:

Victory's my favorite CG boat too, with the other steel 52-footers close behind. But they're Old. It's getting so it's hard to keep them going, so Victory sits idle, waiting to be used only when her capabilities are _really_ needed. I'll miss the 52s when they're gone, but their replacements should have been ready years ago. <sigh> I hope when the replacements for the 52-footers are finally developed and built that they perform as well in the really awful stuff as Victory, but I'll bet they won't have as much class as she has.

On 2/1/2021 1:25 PM, Case wrote:
My favorite CG boat ever. Pretty amazing boat.

I got to go for a short cruise on her across the bay once.

https://newportnewstimes.com/article/victory-the-queen-of-the-fleet
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Re: Victory

George Costakis
 

Here's a great video of Victory along with a 47' playing in the waves. It might have been posted here before. I love  Victory's motion and how she take the waves, not near as dampened as the 47. Also like how she is painted white.

I've watched this video way too many times.


George

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 1:36:41 PM PST, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:


Victory's my favorite CG boat too, with the other steel 52-footers close
behind. But they're Old. It's getting so it's hard to keep them going,
so Victory sits idle, waiting to be used only when her capabilities are
_really_ needed. I'll miss the 52s when they're gone, but their
replacements should have been ready years ago. <sigh> I hope when the
replacements for the 52-footers are finally developed and built that
they perform as well in the really awful stuff as Victory, but I'll bet
they won't have as much class as she has.

On 2/1/2021 1:25 PM, Case wrote:
> My favorite CG boat ever. Pretty amazing boat.
>
> I got to go for a short cruise on her across the bay once.
>
>> https://newportnewstimes.com/article/victory-the-queen-of-the-fleet

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Re: Victory

 

Victory's my favorite CG boat too, with the other steel 52-footers close behind. But they're Old. It's getting so it's hard to keep them going, so Victory sits idle, waiting to be used only when her capabilities are _really_ needed. I'll miss the 52s when they're gone, but their replacements should have been ready years ago. <sigh> I hope when the replacements for the 52-footers are finally developed and built that they perform as well in the really awful stuff as Victory, but I'll bet they won't have as much class as she has.

On 2/1/2021 1:25 PM, Case wrote:
My favorite CG boat ever. Pretty amazing boat.
I got to go for a short cruise on her across the bay once.

https://newportnewstimes.com/article/victory-the-queen-of-the-fleet
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Earl's Bentwood Chair

 

More progress on the chair. Now he's waiting for the components to air-dry to 5%-8.5% moisture content before going any further:

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmT6VyDV

Am I correct in guessing that those wide slats will go on the arms?

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Re: Fern Ridge Dam Closing Ceremony, Saturday, the 6th

Claire Acord
 

It must be bleached out sawdust from Dan's latest massive building project...what else could it be?
stay safe out there
cheers
Claire


On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 12:46 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
What's that white stuff?

On 2/2/2021 11:20 AM, Dan in Almostcanada wrote:
> Each messabout begins with a single trailer-hitching...dancing for rain,
> here, too.  Dan.
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Re: A trick question- Cedar oar shafts for oars, and the oar blades

 

Dan tricked us by showing us that confusing illustration. <sigh> <g> It all becomes clear when you look at the entire instructions. First cut the 2x4 into a parallelogram, then you can cut it into two matching tapered “isosceles trapezoids”.

I eagerly await seeing Dan's new oars in action.

How's the boat coming along, Dan? Any pictures to show us?

On 2/2/2021 9:05 AM, Mark N wrote:
first you cut a parallelogram, Angle doesn't seem to be given,
If I'm reading the instructions correctly in this link, it's 10 degrees, no?
https://gacooarlocks.com/plans-for-making-oars.pdf
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Re: Fern Ridge Dam Closing Ceremony, Saturday, the 6th

 

What's that white stuff?

On 2/2/2021 11:20 AM, Dan in Almostcanada wrote:
Each messabout begins with a single trailer-hitching...dancing for rain,
here, too. Dan.
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Re: Fern Ridge Dam Closing Ceremony, Saturday, the 6th

Dan
 

Each messabout begins with a single trailer-hitching...dancing for rain,
here, too. Dan.


Re: A trick question- Cedar oar shafts for oars, and the oar blades

Mark Neuhaus
 



On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 8:22 PM Jove Lachman-Curl <jovelc87@...> wrote:

first you cut a parallelogram, Angle doesn't seem to be given,

If I'm reading the instructions correctly in this link, it's 10 degrees, no?

 
Mark


Re: A trick question- Cedar oar shafts for oars, and the oar blades

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

Yes, I agree he's talking about the saw blade.
first you cut a parallelogram, Angle doesn't seem to be given, then cut down the middle at a slight angle (a slightly tricky cut you'll need to have a carrier board or a taper attached). Looks like he actually recommends a hand held circular saw.
The looms are nested in the board thing end to thin end.
The NOTE WELL is saying.... make sure you don't cut 2 parallelograms, but instead lean your blad opposite so you cut 2 trapezoids.
In my experience saws only lean one way, so you'll have to flip the board.
-Jove



On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 8:02 PM dan mulholland <mulhollanddr@...> wrote:
of course, he's talking about the blade of the saw, not the oar!


From: Dan Mulholland
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 6:36 PM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io <oregoncoots@groups.io>
Subject: A trick question- Cedar oar shafts for oars, and the oar blades
 
OK, here's a test question, from the Gaco oarlocks division, in Australia.  The oar shafts are to be cut from a full dimension 2" by 4", per this diagram.  The question is, what does the "NOTE WELL" mean?    The diagram is an optical illusion, after 1 libation of your choice.




I think it means that the longer surface of the shaft- shown as 3 1/4"- is vertical to the oarlock when the oar is in the water, so the blade would be parallel to that.  This conclusion is based on staring at pictures of the oar, not the math question above.

Hmmm.


Dan

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