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Re: Winter Boating: (was: Coot Lunch Thursday at Fern Ridge)

Electri-Cal
 

I did John !  I saw my day error and went anyhow, not to the lake exactly but out that way.  Good weather for a scoot.  Today is also good, so as the fog clears i'll decide what to arrive on.  Got more absorbent panel cutting to do on the new generator sound control box, for possible home power outages.  While the sun shines it's much easier to get motivated, but I'm almost done.  Time to break in the 7500 kv tri fuel power plant.  

I also got my gauges in yesterday.  The amp gauge is only to 75 amps, but cruise is around 15 -- 20 so the wider dial should read easier.  There are led lights to show pack voltage sorta, will need looking at.  They go through the 12 volt accessory system, so shows 12.4 or so at full.  All I need to do is double that for an estimate on volts, then the depth finder cuts off at the "time to head back" figure, as we saw before.  That should provide enough for a common sense look, with the under $12. added wide sweep gauge added.   If I can't figure with that info, in view, I need to  start rowing more, just in case I need to.

See you today, before 1pm. pretty sure ----  Cal 


getting afloat with nick gates

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

Hi Folks,
I found "getting afloat with Nick Gates" A charming little TV series from the UK in the 80s, you might enjoy it.
This is an interesting episode 8. The main topic of this episode is Thames barges, shallow, with lee boards and weighing 100 tons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5K3EZ7_WLk
If you like it the other episodes are good too.
-Jove


Re: Coot Lunch Thursday at Fern Ridge

elaineginader
 

I was wondering what is the meeting time for the Halloween float. I don't want to miss out this year.


On Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 4:35 PM Jhcalbany@... via groups.io <Jhcalbany=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I haven't bought my invasive species permit this year. Can't I use someone else's? They aren't designated to one boat. What about the latest permit that allows you to paddle the boat ? I hate to buy all that stuff just to go for a 20 minute boat ride. I will buy the permits if I have to tho. 


Re: Coot Lunch Thursday at Fern Ridge

Jhcalbany@aol.com
 

I haven't bought my invasive species permit this year. Can't I use someone else's? They aren't designated to one boat. What about the latest permit that allows you to paddle the boat ? I hate to buy all that stuff just to go for a 20 minute boat ride. I will buy the permits if I have to tho. 


Winter Boating: (was: Coot Lunch Thursday at Fern Ridge)

 

I hope you had a good lunch today at Orchard Point, Cal. We'll be there tomorrow. <g>

Woahink Lake, south of Florence, is pretty clear, or at least it was last time I sailed on it years ago. That's be a good place to try out Surprise's underwater camera.

When the weather is nice on the Coast in the winter it can be nicer for boating than in the summer, because there's no nasty NW wind in the afternoon. Maybe we oughta try a short-notice messabout there this winter, if we get a good forecast...

On 10/21/2020 7:17 AM, Electri-Cal wrote:
Hi, John,  Figured i'd do lunch today at Orchard point. ...
Wish there were a bit more water, might have to head for the coast to boat now.
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Re: Coot Lunch Thursday at Fern Ridge

 

Good looking boat, Bob.

The Goat Island Skiff is a sporty boat, but not a death trap. ;o) David G got caught by an unexpected jibe on the Columbia and got wet, and he's got a special talent. <g> Jerry had a rambunctious dog along who may have helped him capsize on Timothy Lake. The boat has got a big sail, so you have to be careful when the wind pipes up. Set Friends and Family up so you can easily reef her, and don't be ashamed to reef early and often. See my sig.

Start out learning to sail Friends and Family in light breezes, or with the sail reefed. You probably don't need to pay someone to teach you to sail. Show up at some messabouts and the Coots will be glad to get you started, then you just sail and sail, learning all along. I've never stopped learning. :o)

It would have been nice to meet you at the lunch Thursday, but it is a long drive. We'll see you at a Coot get-together in the future. Usually we have our Coot lunches around Albany or Corvallis, but John McC desperately needs to get some social interaction and doesn't want to get far from home.

On 10/20/2020 11:43 AM, Smilin' Bob wrote:
Thank you for responding to my inquiry, John.
I have attached a photo of SV Friends and Family taken while in the middle of the build.
To judge by your photos, I may be in for a prolonged period of learning to prevent or recover from a capsize. My sail has 3 sets of reef points. The lesson plan will include their frequent use. The foot of the sail is laced, therefore this boat has a nicely bending boom which should dump most of the dangerous wind. 4 collapsible five-gallon water jugs will serve as ballast. Who knows; maybe the lessons will include the building of something beamier like a Welsford Houdini or Navigator.
Please let me know of any impromptu creek, river, or bay sails that may materialize; I'll check the Coot calendar for the remainder. However, the Corps of Engineers has emptied many of the lakes; it's clear that the sailing season is mostly finished.
I won't make it to the Thursday meeting but look forward to meeting the Coots.
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Re: I'm looking for a kodak rotary tray slide projector

SmilinBob
 


Blue Moon Photography in Portland has Kodak Carousel and other projectors for sale. Here is the web page that I viewed:

https://bluemooncamera.com/store/photographica/search?orderby=score&ordertype=desc&categories=21&pricemin=0&pricemax=10000&manufacturer_id&condition_id&keyword=slide%20%20projector

Good luck.
Bob Choderker

-----Original Message-----
From: Electri-Cal <calboats@...>
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2020 7:49 am
Subject: [oregoncoots] I'm looking for a kodak rotary tray slide projector

Any coots have a working kodak rotary or slide tray projector available.  Mine stripped a gear due to age, a common problem, and it's a pain to replace.  Mine has a good bulb, so that's not needed to function.  If we have a coot who can install the kit, I could get one and pay for the service.  I have a lot of slides I'd like to see one more time, and maybe print out.  Lots of vintage boat and custom car show stuff  ( I think ) from the 60's, might be fun for a coot lunch sometime. 

Thanks,   Cal


I'm looking for a kodak rotary tray slide projector

Electri-Cal
 

Any coots have a working kodak rotary or slide tray projector available.  Mine stripped a gear due to age, a common problem, and it's a pain to replace.  Mine has a good bulb, so that's not needed to function.  If we have a coot who can install the kit, I could get one and pay for the service.  I have a lot of slides I'd like to see one more time, and maybe print out.  Lots of vintage boat and custom car show stuff  ( I think ) from the 60's, might be fun for a coot lunch sometime. 

Thanks,   Cal


Re: Coot Lunch Thursday at Fern Ridge

Electri-Cal
 

Hi, John,  Figured i'd do lunch today at Orchard point.  A bit shallow for Surprise, so the scooter looks like an option, as the seat is built in har de har !!  I did get the new amp gauge in yesterday, and looking at a better depth camera now.  As before, here's hoping to point the camera to avoid most surface image clutter, and get a good bow image.

Hooked up to test, the new amp gauge is working sweet, but needs some mounting work for a better looking install.  The instrument power line needs redoing at some point, too light a wire, but a ton of trouble to replace it.    
I plan on being there early, as i'll be on a "day ride" as feels good,  Wish there were a bit more water, might have to head for the coast to boat now.

Later,   Cal


Re: Winterizing a Trailer Sailer, and Books to share

 

It's a good idea to let some fresh air get inside the tarp, even if you've got a plastic boat, to discourage moss and mildew.

Put a marble or pebble inside that "fist" of tarp to make a more secure tie point.

On 10/20/2020 10:57 AM, Jove wrote:
Winterizing.....
I don't know that much..... I've got an 18ft swing keel windrose 18, this is the 2nd winter.
I take the cushions out and sails and anything else that that will mold, I take the outboard indoors, I put a tarp over it and tie it down all the way round,
...
I ball the tarp up in a fist and choke it with a short piece of rope to make a tie point where there isn't one..... tarp is rectangle, boat is kind of a triangle.
Not perfect, but that's what I've done so far.
...
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Re: Winterizing a Trailer Sailer, and Books to share

Richard Green
 

Be sure tongue of trailer is raised above level to drain through the cockpit drains should there be leakage of the tarp over the boat.  Two options I’ve used in the past.  One is, no heat in the boat if it is not in the sun/shade situation which can cause condensation.  Second is the old 100w light bulb inside to keep a bit of heat.  In Jaunty, my wood boat, I used a yellow heater I got at a big box store on the lowest setting.  When it comes to my boats, I don’t worry the heat bill…but live in a town with public ‘lectricity which is low cost.

Rich

On Oct 20, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Jove Lachman-Curl <jovelc87@...> wrote:

Winterizing.....
I don't know that much..... I've got an 18ft swing keel windrose 18, this is the 2nd winter.
I take the cushions out and sails and anything else that that will mold, I take the outboard indoors, I put a tarp over it and tie it down all the way round, I watch if for rain pockets making bathtubs in the tarp and put items under the tarp as needed so it will shed properly. The tie downs got loose and needed tightening after a week or so.
I ball the tarp up in a fist and choke it with a short piece of rope to make a tie point where there isn't one..... tarp is rectangle, boat is kind of a triangle.
Not perfect, but that's what I've done so far.
In the spring I did find a ball of fuzz that looked like it might have been a mouse nest.... not sure what to do about that.
Last winter the tarp failed at one point and I ended up with quite a bit of water in the boat, I bailed it out, and then set a fan in there on an extension cord, and rebuilt the tarp which hasn't failed since, the fan dried it out within a few days.
-Jove

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 10:36 AM Josh <roseandthistlecustom@...> wrote:
We love to go for drives and Rose hasn't been to Astoria yet so maybe sometime soon we'll head up I-5.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:39 AM elaineginader <elaineginader@...> wrote:
Thank you Josh but I live in Portland. If you come to the Halloween Float I'll be there.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:30 AM Josh <roseandthistlecustom@...> wrote:
If you're in Eugene area it should be pretty simple to meet somewhere. Any books I loan out I would like back eventually but am not in any hurry.
Josh




Re: Coot Lunch Thursday at Fern Ridge

SmilinBob
 

Thank you for responding to my inquiry, John. 

I have attached a photo of SV Friends and Family taken while in the middle of the build. 
 
To judge by your photos, I may be in for a prolonged period of learning to prevent or recover from a capsize. My sail has 3 sets of reef points. The lesson plan will include their frequent use. The foot of the sail is laced, therefore this boat has a nicely bending boom which should dump most of the dangerous wind. 4 collapsible five-gallon water jugs will serve as ballast. Who knows; maybe the lessons will include the building of something beamier like a Welsford Houdini or Navigator.

Please let me know of any impromptu creek, river, or bay sails that may materialize; I'll check the Coot calendar for the remainder. However, the Corps of Engineers has emptied many of the lakes; it's clear that the sailing season is mostly finished. 

I won't make it to the Thursday meeting but look forward to meeting the Coots.

Be well,
Bob Choderker


-----Original Message-----
From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2020 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Coot Lunch Thursday at Fern Ridge

Welcome aboard, Bob. You're very welcome to join us for lunch Thursday,
but it's gonna be a small gathering, for not very long, so it might not
be worth a drive from Salem.

A Goat Island Skiff! :o) They're nice boats, but kinda sporty. Ask David
and Jerry. <g> Do you have a reef in the sail? If so, you'll probably
want to start out with the sail reefed, until you get used to the boat.
Learning to sail is pretty easy, and you do it by sailing, which is fun.
:o) Do you have any photos of your boat to share with us?

https://flic.kr/p/74CeZD

https://flic.kr/p/74Gbjq

Is the boat set up for rowing, or do you have a motor? You may want to
join us for the Yaquina River floats coming up soon:

http://www.coots.org/mb/Halloween/

http://www.coots.org/mb/Thanksgiving

On 10/18/2020 5:20 PM, Smilin' Bob wrote:
> Hello, Mr. Kohnen:
> Would this be a good meeting for a prospective member who lives in Salem
> and wants to become acquainted with the Coots? I have just completed the
> building of a Goat Island Skiff for myself and family. Hopefully someone
> there can recommend a person I may hire for sailing lessons.

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superstition. (Jose Bergamin)


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Re: Winterizing a Trailer Sailer, and Books to share

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

Winterizing.....
I don't know that much..... I've got an 18ft swing keel windrose 18, this is the 2nd winter.
I take the cushions out and sails and anything else that that will mold, I take the outboard indoors, I put a tarp over it and tie it down all the way round, I watch if for rain pockets making bathtubs in the tarp and put items under the tarp as needed so it will shed properly. The tie downs got loose and needed tightening after a week or so.
I ball the tarp up in a fist and choke it with a short piece of rope to make a tie point where there isn't one..... tarp is rectangle, boat is kind of a triangle.
Not perfect, but that's what I've done so far.
In the spring I did find a ball of fuzz that looked like it might have been a mouse nest.... not sure what to do about that.
Last winter the tarp failed at one point and I ended up with quite a bit of water in the boat, I bailed it out, and then set a fan in there on an extension cord, and rebuilt the tarp which hasn't failed since, the fan dried it out within a few days.
-Jove

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 10:36 AM Josh <roseandthistlecustom@...> wrote:
We love to go for drives and Rose hasn't been to Astoria yet so maybe sometime soon we'll head up I-5.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:39 AM elaineginader <elaineginader@...> wrote:
Thank you Josh but I live in Portland. If you come to the Halloween Float I'll be there.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:30 AM Josh <roseandthistlecustom@...> wrote:
If you're in Eugene area it should be pretty simple to meet somewhere. Any books I loan out I would like back eventually but am not in any hurry.
Josh


Re: Winterizing a Trailer Sailer, and Books to share

Josh
 

We love to go for drives and Rose hasn't been to Astoria yet so maybe sometime soon we'll head up I-5.


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:39 AM elaineginader <elaineginader@...> wrote:
Thank you Josh but I live in Portland. If you come to the Halloween Float I'll be there.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:30 AM Josh <roseandthistlecustom@...> wrote:
If you're in Eugene area it should be pretty simple to meet somewhere. Any books I loan out I would like back eventually but am not in any hurry.
Josh


Re: Winterizing a Trailer Sailer, and Books to share

elaineginader
 

Thank you Josh but I live in Portland. If you come to the Halloween Float I'll be there.


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:30 AM Josh <roseandthistlecustom@...> wrote:
If you're in Eugene area it should be pretty simple to meet somewhere. Any books I loan out I would like back eventually but am not in any hurry.
Josh


Re: Winterizing a Trailer Sailer, and Books to share

Josh
 

If you're in Eugene area it should be pretty simple to meet somewhere. Any books I loan out I would like back eventually but am not in any hurry.
Josh


Re: Yaquina River Float, Saturday, October 31st

elaineginader
 

We can bring plates.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 3:25 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
The Halloween float is coming up soon. It's on Halloween this this year!
I think we can do the float in a responsible, socially distanced or
masked, as appropriate, way. The pizza joint is take-out only, so we'll
have to eat outdoors, so make sacrifices to the weather gods. <g>
Somebody bring paper plates, so we don't have to raid the Boathouses' stash:

http://www.coots.org/mb/Halloween/

And then there's the After Thanksgiving float a month later:

http://www.coots.org/mb/Thanksgiving

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five minutes." Is there any human being, I wonder, besides the hero of a
Sunday-school "tale for boys," who ever gets up willingly? (Jerome K.
Jerome)

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Re: Coot Lunch Thursday at Fern Ridge

Jhcalbany@aol.com
 

Dennis has a small Minkota & a battery we'll bring. I'm bringing a set of oars. I want to see if I got the seat & oarlocks in the right place. See you Thursday.


Re: Pride of Toledo has found a home

Richard Green
 

Will do, thanks!

Rich

On Oct 19, 2020, at 3:01 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Congratulations, Rich! If you need any help with Pride of Toledo, let us know.

On 10/19/2020 7:14 AM, Andrew wrote:
Right here in Oregon. Richard Green needed a new project.
Thanks for helping, guys. I appreciate it.
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Re: Winterizing a Trailer Sailer, and Books to share

elaineginader
 

Could I please have the book "On Celtic Tides".I can't come to the lunch I'm working. 

Elaine

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 3:39 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
Good Girl's new owners, Josh and Shannon, have some books to share. See
attachment. They'd also like some advice about how to get Good Girl
ready for a winter on her trailer.

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Date:   Thu, 15 Oct 2020 21:56:45 -0700
From:   Shannon & Josh Mead
To:     John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>

Thanks,
Here's some of the books I have, would be happy to share with you or
other members.

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(George Santayana)



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