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Re: Short Notise -- Coot Lunch at Fern Ridge Monday (today)

Josh
 

Looking like we're aiming for 11am Friday morning. 


On Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 6:13 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
Try to let us know earlier than I did when you're gonna be pulling Good
Girl. Maybe we can turn the chore into a Coot gab fest.

Cal helped me get Tuffy pulled out and ready to hit the road, after we
took a little electrified voyage. I hauled her up to Corn Valley where
Earl's neighbor girls did a great job  cleaning her up, top to bottom. :o)


On 8/17/2020 9:33 AM, Josh wrote:
> Wish we could come to lend a hand, work at 11:30 today. Do have the rest
> of the week off (till Saturday), if I can get my trailer lights working
> I'm planning to pull Good Girl this week.

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September Columbia Cruise

Mark Neuhaus
 

Hi gang,

On Monday, August 17, 2020, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

Me and Bob L and Earl decided we're gonna do a circumnavigation of Sauvie's Island next month. Starting September 26th from Fred's Marina, and staying out maybe five nights. We'll see... Details to be worked out later. Anyonhe who likes is welcome to join us.

Okay, then, here is a quick stab at POIs that might be of interest.  

A friend in his Port Townsend skiff and I in my Tolman are heading out tomorrow for a Hayden Island round trip.  Next week, I hope  to head up to Scappoose Bay to see what condition the backwater is in that Terry, Pat, and I stayed in after the summer solstice back in June, 2009. River level is pretty low now, so it may not be a viable stop.

I'm willing to stop, by boat or car, at any other places anyone wants to know about.

In return, maybe someone can take a quick peek at my moorage area (just a quarter mile down channel from Fred's) and explain how to properly dock in and out of an angled berth with wind, tide,  shallow water, and current screwing with me. And a neighboring boat, to boot.  I'm getting tired of seeing all the floating home inhabitants bringing their chairs out to watch major entertainment.  😀

Mark 


September Columbia Cruise

 

Me and Bob L and Earl decided we're gonna do a circumnavigation of Sauvie's Island next month. Starting September 26th from Fred's Marina, and staying out maybe five nights. We'll see... Details to be worked out later. Anyonhe who likes is welcome to join us.


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Re: Short Notise -- Coot Lunch at Fern Ridge Monday (today)

 

Try to let us know earlier than I did when you're gonna be pulling Good Girl. Maybe we can turn the chore into a Coot gab fest.

Cal helped me get Tuffy pulled out and ready to hit the road, after we took a little electrified voyage. I hauled her up to Corn Valley where Earl's neighbor girls did a great job cleaning her up, top to bottom. :o)

On 8/17/2020 9:33 AM, Josh wrote:
Wish we could come to lend a hand, work at 11:30 today. Do have the rest of the week off (till Saturday), if I can get my trailer lights working I'm planning to pull Good Girl this week.
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Re: Short Notise -- Coot Lunch at Fern Ridge Monday (today)

elaineginader
 

Just came back from Toledo wish we could John.


On Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 9:33 AM Josh <roseandthistlecustom@...> wrote:
Wish we could come to lend a hand, work at 11:30 today. Do have the rest of the week off (till Saturday), if I can get my trailer lights working I'm planning to pull Good Girl this week.


Re: Short Notise -- Coot Lunch at Fern Ridge Monday (today)

Josh
 

Wish we could come to lend a hand, work at 11:30 today. Do have the rest of the week off (till Saturday), if I can get my trailer lights working I'm planning to pull Good Girl this week.


Re: Short Notise -- Coot Lunch at Fern Ridge Monday (today)

cherrill boissonou
 

Can’t make it down today, but the barn is ready for Tuffy....so I’ll await your call.
Today or Tuesday?
Earl

On Aug 17, 2020, at 12:57 AM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

A socially distanced lunch and gab fest at Richardson Park. Starting around 11:00. Bring your own lunch, of course.

Tuffy will be coming out of the water too, I hope at Richardson. If there's not enough water at the ramp I'll have to shuttle my tow rig to Orchard Point...

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Short Notise -- Coot Lunch at Fern Ridge Monday (today)

 

A socially distanced lunch and gab fest at Richardson Park. Starting around 11:00. Bring your own lunch, of course.

Tuffy will be coming out of the water too, I hope at Richardson. If there's not enough water at the ramp I'll have to shuttle my tow rig to Orchard Point...

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Re: Electric Love

Electri-Cal
 

Yes John, and other Coots who have missed some posts. 

The converters wired up just fine from what  it looks like on the bench.  I'd ike to know the amps rating on that pack is too, but capacity!!  that never seems to be an exact science once the actual motor, water condition, and relevant wid is altering run times.  I need to figure the plug to add that battery to the motors with a plug next.  I can't just use the charge input circuit , because there is always another or both on line, the old different size batt. problem.  So, I think I will need to be looking for a 3 way switch as well, and see what that takes.  I have two -- two pack switches here, probably list those on e bay, soon as I get around to doing that.  If you need one let me know.

Charlie and I cruised Dexter theother day, tried Lookout first but again too late to have usable ramps, with water drop 2--3 ft. per day going out.  A week ago I could have done that safely, but now no dock to stand on that is close to the correct launch lane.  Moved to Dexter and it was a great day.  Looks like I get two hours or close to that with two coots, thats on one pack.  One pack in reserve, as the rule.  I get close to an extra hour as a solo ride, depends on the lake, so one more pack could be welcome when I'm solo for a longer day, maybe !!!   Could do more, but at way slow voltage settings, we used 20 amps as a goot clip, and the depth finder quits when the voltage drops with a good sound to make it noticable,

Speaking of that, how about taking some runs (boat of choice)  at Fern Ridge next week, I have Monday as open at the moment.  Maybe a picnic lunch cruise, some gotta doos sort of hem me in next week, bur we haven't visited in a while.  Charlie and I came up with a formula, for a two person ride.  Water time is divided into bladder capacity, or sun power, when you gotta go, you just go pottie or usually home.  Solo runs have more options, and so need the extra battery time. 

Later,   Cal 




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Re: Electric Love

John Weiss
 

Thankfully, it's covered under the 4-year warranty. After that, I'll buy an Ohmmu or whatever is the current rage (pun intended) at that time.

On 08/13/20 13:15, John Kohnen wrote:
I'll bet that Tesla also uses some really $pecial 12-volt battery. <g> Congratulations on your new ride, John.
On 8/12/2020 2:12 PM, John Weiss wrote:
Used to be.  Went all the way, and now have a Tesla Model 3.


Re: Electric Love

 

I'll bet that Tesla also uses some really $pecial 12-volt battery. <g> Congratulations on your new ride, John.

On 8/12/2020 2:12 PM, John Weiss wrote:
Used to be.  Went all the way, and now have a Tesla Model 3.
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Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival (Virtual) Starts Sept. 12th

 

And you don't have to go to F******k. :o) Are you listening, Bud? <g>

https://virtualwbf.org/

It cost money, but I'll consider it a donation to help the WBF through these hard times.

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Re: Electric Love

Richard Green
 

Only two days ago had the hybrid battery replaced in my daughter’s ’05 prius she inherited from her grandfather a few months ago. It had few miles on it as it had sat for years with minimal usage, no charging save the odd time out. The batteries didn’t like that and eventually and apparently gave up the ghost. 2300 bucks installed at the Toyota dealer. Her step bro said he could replace bad cells for about 40 bucks a cell but in asking around and in my own experience I felt that wasn’t a good idea. Seen boat bank batteries in which a new battery interacted badly with old batteries resulting in premature failures.

Had the twelve volt replaced around a year ago during probate and I’m thinking it was only in the 200 and change range at the local dealer. Don’t quote me on that quote for the 12v.

Rich

On Aug 12, 2020, at 1:15 PM, John Kohnen <@Jkohnen> wrote:

So you're a fellow Prius driver, John! :o)

Toyota's got everybody convinced that the Prius computer is real picky about what sort of 12 volt battery it likes. <sigh> To keep us from putting just _any_ battery in our Prii, batteries in American cars have _Japanese_ standard terminals, and Japanese cars have _American_ standard terminals! But $450 to replace your Prius battery was highway robbery! My Prius's (2006) battery died a while back, and I got a fancy-dan Optima battery, better than the stock Toyota battery, for $237.99 through Amazon. It's a bit of a hassle to get to the Prius battery, but not enough so to justify what your dealer charged you. <sigh>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B006VFEJJQ/themotherofal-20


On 8/11/2020 9:17 PM, John Weiss wrote:
The Prius battery may be a bargain. IIRC, I had to pay the Toyota dealer $425 for a replacement AGM!
The replacement battery they sell for Prii may be something to look at. >40 A/H (and the rate at a more aggressive discharge than the usual lead/acid rating) and a built in BMS, for $349 each.
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Re: Electric Love

John Weiss
 

Used to be. Went all the way, and now have a Tesla Model 3.

On 08/12/20 13:15, John Kohnen wrote:
So you're a fellow Prius driver, John! :o)
Toyota's got everybody convinced that the Prius computer is real picky about what sort of 12 volt battery it likes. <sigh> To keep us from putting just _any_ battery in our Prii, batteries in American cars have _Japanese_ standard terminals, and Japanese cars have _American_ standard terminals! But $450 to replace your Prius battery was highway robbery! My Prius's (2006) battery died a while back, and I got a fancy-dan Optima battery, better than the stock Toyota battery, for $237.99 through Amazon. It's a bit of a hassle to get to the Prius battery, but not enough so to justify what your dealer charged you. <sigh>
https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B006VFEJJQ/themotherofal-20
On 8/11/2020 9:17 PM, John Weiss wrote:
The Prius battery may be a bargain.  IIRC, I had to pay the Toyota dealer $425 for a replacement AGM!
The replacement battery they sell for Prii may be something to look at.  >40 A/H (and the rate at a more aggressive discharge than the usual lead/acid rating) and a built in BMS, for $349 each.


Re: Electric Love

 

So you're a fellow Prius driver, John! :o)

Toyota's got everybody convinced that the Prius computer is real picky about what sort of 12 volt battery it likes. <sigh> To keep us from putting just _any_ battery in our Prii, batteries in American cars have _Japanese_ standard terminals, and Japanese cars have _American_ standard terminals! But $450 to replace your Prius battery was highway robbery! My Prius's (2006) battery died a while back, and I got a fancy-dan Optima battery, better than the stock Toyota battery, for $237.99 through Amazon. It's a bit of a hassle to get to the Prius battery, but not enough so to justify what your dealer charged you. <sigh>

https://smile.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B006VFEJJQ/themotherofal-20

On 8/11/2020 9:17 PM, John Weiss wrote:
The Prius battery may be a bargain.  IIRC, I had to pay the Toyota dealer $425 for a replacement AGM!
The replacement battery they sell for Prii may be something to look at.  >40 A/H (and the rate at a more aggressive discharge than the usual lead/acid rating) and a built in BMS, for $349 each.
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Re: Electric Love

John Weiss
 

The Prius battery may be a bargain. IIRC, I had to pay the Toyota dealer $425 for a replacement AGM!

On 08/11/20 16:49, John Kohnen wrote:
If price isn't an issue... $949 each, and I'd need two. <sigh> And a Battery Management System (BMS) to care for them. 150 A/H! :o) My flooded lead/acid batteries only have about 40 A/H practical capacity.
The replacement battery they sell for Prii may be something to look at.
>40 A/H (and the rate at a more aggressive discharge than the usual
lead/acid rating) and a built in BMS, for $349 each.
On 8/11/2020 3:34 PM, John Weiss wrote:
If price isn't a deterrent, and weight is the issue, look at these LiFePo4 batteries:

https://www.ohmmu.com/group31


Re: Electric Trolling Motors (was: Good Girl For Sale)

 

I distrust high-thrust trolling motors that run on 12 volts. I spent a bunch of good money on a fancy-dan 50 lb. thrust Minn Kota -- a good brand -- 12 volt motor, and it doesn't push Pickle along noticeably better than the cheap 30 lb. thrust motor I had before. Maybe it really only produces 40% more oomph rather than the 67% boost you'd expect from the advertised thrust, since it only consumes 40% more juice...

When you start pulling the kind of current the high thrust 12 volt motors consume you end up with loss to heat in the wires, and the Peukert effect means that you run your batteries down a lot faster. If that cheapo 12 volt 65 lb. thrust motor really does make that much thrust, it'd have to draw around 65 amps. That's a lot. A 24 volt motor would draw half the current.

I'm curious what'd happen if you ran a 12 volt trolling motor on 24 volts... I may try it on my $5 garage sale 28 lb. thrust motor. I haven't done so before because I didn't have two matching 12 volt batteries, but now I could borrow Tuffy's. :o)

On 8/9/2020 7:01 AM, Dan from Almostcanada wrote:
John. I just ordered a "cheap" 65 pound short shaft from the back alleys
of Sri Lanka or some such. But, of course, you brought me up short with
discussion of 24 volts...I still have an unused 24 of unknown thrust--about
65, I think,
...
Somewhere in my checkered past there
was mention of lower tron consumption with higher voltage...is that your
implication with the above "higher math?" Dan.
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Re: Electric Love

 

If price isn't an issue... $949 each, and I'd need two. <sigh> And a Battery Management System (BMS) to care for them. 150 A/H! :o) My flooded lead/acid batteries only have about 40 A/H practical capacity.

The replacement battery they sell for Prii may be something to look at.
40 A/H (and the rate at a more aggressive discharge than the usual
lead/acid rating) and a built in BMS, for $349 each.

On 8/11/2020 3:34 PM, John Weiss wrote:
If price isn't a deterrent, and weight is the issue, look at these LiFePo4 batteries:
https://www.ohmmu.com/group31
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Re: Took awhile

Case Turner
 

Made that trip once with Orca. Mast up with hopes of sailing home into the slough. Well let’s just say that the last 1-2 miles took me forever rowing into the 2’a3’ wind chop. 3 year old Blake with me rubbing blackberries we’d picked all over the nice show paint! 

Good times!

Case

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On Aug 11, 2020, at 4:24 PM, elaineginader <elaineginader@...> wrote:


One of the first things I did to Larimar is oar locks but I need a seat and that's almost done. I rowed her the first year I brought her to Elk City but I missed going with the Coots because I was late. It would be nice to see how she handles. But we'll see what happens.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020, 3:47 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
The Yaquina River between Elk City and Toledo isn't a very good place
for a sailboat. Bring your kayak. I hope you can manage to bring Larimar
to Fern Ridge before the water is all gone. Bob L and I poked around
with his boathook yesterday and discovered that the depths given below
are a little pessimistic for the end of the Richardson ramp (but about
4" optimistic for the depth in my slip out on E Dock <sigh>). There's
about a foot more water at the end of the Orchard Point ramp.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/FRidgeSlips

On 8/9/2020 4:25 PM, elaine wrote:
> Being stuck at home has its advantages. I took my Enterprise
> sailing/racing dinghy to the Toledo Boat Show last year and as some of
> you know I had my share of problems. One that has been on my mind was
> that I couldn't figure out how to keep the rubber down. I've been
> researching since to figure this dilemma as I would love to sail her on
> some future Coot messabouts. Today it all came to me and now it'll work
> correctly. I think I'll bring the Enterprise to the Halloween float just
> so I can test it out. Or if things work out I may take her to Fern
> Ridge. We'll see.

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Very Interesting Boat For Sale

 

THE (I think they only did one) Nexus Bolger Black Skimmer. A design I've long lusted after, ever since I forst saw it in The Folding Schooner... A very practical sort of boat.


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [TSCA-Puget] Sharpie for sale
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 08:51:35 -0700
From: @mckeeb

mckeeb at gmail.com

Otter needs a new home!
$12, 000 obo

25 foot glass over plywood sharpie (Phil Bolger Black Skimmer), 3500 lbs on the trailer, 2800 lbs off. Draws 1 foot lee boards up, and ~ 3 or 4 with the boards down.

$12,000 - including the trailer, outboard and all the gear - flares, chart book, throw-able cushions, two anchors and associated rode, and etc. A professionally built Bolger boat, it doesn’t get much stranger than that. Otter, originally Ui Ipo was built in 2007, by Nexus Marine, for the original owner who passed away shortly after he took delivery of the boat in the SF Bay Area . The boat sat out of the water on his sons property. We've added a small AC battery charger, replaced the batteries (2 G28 AGMS), replaced the water pump & fresh water plumbing, and rewired the power for the outboard. The outboard is a Yamaha T8 w/ electric start and electric lift which runs well (gear and engine oil changed annually). The main (2 reefs) and mizzen were made by Carrol Hasse's loft, and I made the mizzen staysail (there's sail covers and bags too). The trailer is in good condition though has the usual electrical issues in regards to the lights. New wheels as of 2 years ago. I refinished the spars (sanded to bare wood, and applied 3 coats of cetol marine light + 2 coats of the gloss). New hull and deck paint this year. Three coats of Quantum 2 part poly. The boat is in Bellingham on the trailer.

Call, text or email to discuss.
Ben 360-920-3041
@mckeeb

Picture

https://photos.app.goo.gl/WSHbLYDGEAJbaLH16

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