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Help With Sailboat Voyage Down the Columbia (was: Very Cheap or Free Weekender)

 

Welcome aboard, Mike. I changed the subject line so it fits the subject. To start a new topic, just send an email to oregoncoots@groups.io ( oregoncoots at groups.io ).

What kind of boat did you get? Now that fall is here there should be some opportunities, between storms, to get downriver without fighting afternoon north winds. You might even be able to sail most of the way. :o)

On 10/19/2019 5:00 AM, Mike L wrote:
Okay folks we purchased a 29 ft sailboat who is available to instruct a sailing voyage to move her from Hayden island to illwaco. Please and Thank you
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Help With Sailboat Voyage Down the Columbia (was: Very Cheap or Free Weekender)

 

I've got a scary Oregon Coast sea story that involves someone being told that the best way to find a skipper to take a boat from Nehalem Bay to BC was to hang out in the taverns down by the docks. ;o)

On 10/19/2019 9:14 AM, Mark N wrote:

At 08:56 AM 10/19/2019 -0700, Claire wrote:

a shakedown cruise on the coast of Washington in late October/November
with a new boat would not be my idea of a good timeÂ
I'm gonna bet the Hayden Island he refers to is the one in Portland, so
it's really just a float down the Columbia River and not offshore. Unless,
of course, he picks the wrong crew to help him and they overshoot Illwaco.
:-)
Mike, you might post a note at a gate at one of the marinas on Hayden
Island, or drop by RiversWest Small Craft Center at Pier 99 on one of their
open shop Saturdays, and see if anyone is interested in a boat ride. Maybe
get a free helper or maybe not too expensive.
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A good many things go around in the dark besides Santa Claus. (Herbert Hoover)

Re: Dinghy Sails and couple rigs for sale, just hanging out

Electri-Cal
 

If I'm listing sails, I could list yours too.  Not a big deal, but I do have all items photos ready. Fully packed & script done, just needing an address to buyer ,,,,  before it goes live, Craigslist, or eBay.  Fast shipping like a store gets ratings like I have, 100% over maybe 10 years or more of listing stuff.

Later,  Cal



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

-------- Original message --------
From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
Date: 10/19/19 4:25 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Dinghy Sails and couple rigs for sale, just hanging out

I hope the new hip works as well as the one you got on the other side a
while back. So far, the Weatherman says it's gonna be a beautiful fall
day next Saturday for the Yaquina float. :o)

I haven't connected with Kendall yet to get an appraisal of the sails.
The Lido jib is a really nice sail -- I wish I could use it <g> -- I
didn't look at the Sabot sail. I'll try harder to get ahold of Kendall
this coming week. I've also got some unneeded sails. More on that next
week...

On 10/19/2019 6:14 AM, Electri-Cal wrote:
> The new hip joint is coming Dec. 5 th., just waiting for that project to
> get with a couple boat and rc drone projects.  Not doing big boat
> anything for the time being.  Some other coots could do a coast cruise,
> sounds like fun, weather permitting of course.
>
> Will have some sails for sale soon.  A Sabot type unstayed sail rig for
> a 7 to 10 ft.  Dinghy. A good Lido 14 jib with lines is also available.
> The jib is ready to go sailing on several appx. 15 ft. Hulls, might fit
> yours so let's talk.
>
> John K. Is checking the good prices, but it would be good for a variety
> of boats, I could have the gear to complete this package. Even a
> beaching rudder for a small sailboat. Call for details from the Coors
> member list.

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John (jkohnen@...)
Compassion is not weakness and concern for the unfortunate is not
socialism. (Hubert Humphrey)




Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

Bob Larkin
 

Thanks for the reminder, John.  I plan to be there---it is always a great fall trip!

 As of now, I plan to bring the Acorn 8.  That boat travels in the back of the van, which in turn limits the use of the van for shuttle duty.  If others have a shuttle-friendly vehicle, bring it along.

Bob

Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

 

The Weatherman is promising beautiful weather for the float next Saturday! :o) Knock on wood...

http://www.coots.org/mb/Halloween/

A discussion during Thursday lunch about what was probably the wettest Halloween float, when Darrell and I took our motorboats and stayed at the then-new transient docks in Toledo, and it rained so hard that night and blew so hard that it blew the rain right through Lazy Jack's side curtains and soaked the jeans I'd hung up to dry, made me think about taking Lazy Jack this time. In more clement weather.

Either launching early(!) Saturday and staying over that night, or going over Friday and staying two nights. The price is right -- Toledo now charges $0 a night at the Transient docks, with a suggested donation. I'll try to explain why sometime...

We'll see...

On 10/19/2019 7:33 PM, Bob L wrote:
Thanks for the reminder, John.  I plan to be there---it is always a great fall trip!
 As of now, I plan to bring the Acorn 8.  That boat travels in the back of the van, which in turn limits the use of the van for shuttle duty. If others have a shuttle-friendly vehicle, bring it along.
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There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the worm. (Patrick F. McManus)

Some More Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival Photos

 

I've uploaded a couple more days' worth of photos from the Festival last month:

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmH4vz9e

I'm done with the easy part -- now I have to go through all the photos I took during the rainy sail-by on Sunday! <g>

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John (@Jkohnen)
It has always been my private conviction that any man who pits his intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming. (John Steinbeck)

Re: Some More Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival Photos

Claire Acord
 

Very nice John!
thank you so much for sharing...
best
Claire


Stay afloat with current events....visit Traditional Small Craft Association - Puget Sound's website:
http://www.tscapuget.org
Claire Acord


On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 7:52 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
I've uploaded a couple more days' worth of photos from the Festival last
month:

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmH4vz9e

I'm done with the easy part -- now I have to go through all the photos I
took during the rainy sail-by on Sunday! <g>

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John (jkohnen@...)
It has always been my private conviction that any man who pits his
intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming. (John Steinbeck)




Keep cleaning off those shelves!

Claire Acord
 

Thursday, November 7
Starts at 5.  Book pass-a-long and pizza party 
Can’t wait to see you there.
Cheers
Claire

Re: Some More Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival Photos

elaineginader
 

Great pictures John. I can't wait to see Tuffy.


On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 7:52 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
I've uploaded a couple more days' worth of photos from the Festival last
month:

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmH4vz9e

I'm done with the easy part -- now I have to go through all the photos I
took during the rainy sail-by on Sunday! <g>

--
John (jkohnen@...)
It has always been my private conviction that any man who pits his
intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming. (John Steinbeck)




Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

John Purdy
 

My first post to this group, though I've been following this group for years.  I sail a West Wight Potter 15 and have been given a whitewater kayak that I've outfitted for flat water by constructing a small wooden keel to help it track straight as I paddle.  Without the keel the rocker and short waterline of the boat makes it happy to go sideways as it moves straight ahead.  From pictures I've seen on the coots.org  website I think this would be the perfect vessel for the Halloween float on Saturday, plus I'd like to see the area, and attend a coots gathering.  I'd like go come join but don't know how the shuttle back works and would need to be shuttled back to my car (tan escort) at the put in spot.  How does the shuttle work and can I be shuttled?

Here's a link to a picture of the kayak (without the keel addition.)

Thanks,
John Purdy
Tigard, OR

Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

 

Some vehicles will be parked at the Cannon Quarry ramp to take people back to Elk City to get their rigs. Though it can seem chaotic, we always manage to get everybody hauled out and ready for pizza. <g>

That stubby little kayak will be just fine on that stretch of the Yaquina, John. As you've no doubt discovered, it's no speed demon, but nobody will be in a hurry, and the tide will be pushing us along. I hope you join us.

Right now my plan is to take Lazy Jack, launching Saturday at Cannon Quarry and motoring up to Elk City to meet the other voyagers. Earl is gonna ride with me, so his Big Ford Flex will already be at Cannon Quarry when the fleet arrives. I may, or may not, stay the night in Toledo, which'd involve some more shuttling... But it could wait until after pizza. <g>

On 10/24/2019 10:51 PM, John P wrote:
My first post to this group, though I've been following this group for years.  I sail a West Wight Potter 15 and have been given a whitewater kayak that I've outfitted for flat water by constructing a small wooden keel to help it track straight as I paddle.  Without the keel the rocker and short waterline of the boat makes it happy to go sideways as it moves straight ahead.  From pictures I've seen on the coots.org  website I think this would be the perfect vessel for the Halloween float on Saturday, plus I'd like to see the area, and attend a coots gathering. I'd like go come join but don't know how the shuttle back works and would need to be shuttled back to my car (tan escort) at the put in spot.  How does the shuttle work and can I be shuttled?
Here's <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W1qNW7UGJL8eVothyoQUBHEb-kPY7NAs/view?usp=sharing> a link to a picture of the kayak (without the keel addition.)
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Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

jim reim
 

I can get to the Elk City ramp early, get my boat in the water, and take my Highlander to the Cannon Quarry ramp to transport folks back after the float.  I would need a ride back to Elk City.  Could be in Lazy Jack if you'll have me.  When do you expect to come through?   I could also hitchhike with another Coot going by Cannon Quarry.  

Jim R

On Thursday, October 24, 2019, 11:13:36 PM PDT, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:


Some vehicles will be parked at the Cannon Quarry ramp to take people
back to Elk City to get their rigs. Though it can seem chaotic, we
always manage to get everybody hauled out and ready for pizza. <g>

That stubby little kayak will be just fine on that stretch of the
Yaquina, John. As you've no doubt discovered, it's no speed demon, but
nobody will be in a hurry, and the tide will be pushing us along. I hope
you join us.

Right now my plan is to take Lazy Jack, launching Saturday at Cannon
Quarry and motoring up to Elk City to meet the other voyagers. Earl is
gonna ride with me, so his Big Ford Flex will already be at Cannon
Quarry when the fleet arrives. I may, or may not, stay the night in
Toledo, which'd involve some more shuttling... But it could wait until
after pizza. <g>

On 10/24/2019 10:51 PM, John P wrote:
> My first post to this group, though I've been following this group for
> years.  I sail a West Wight Potter 15 and have been given a whitewater
> kayak that I've outfitted for flat water by constructing a small wooden
> keel to help it track straight as I paddle.  Without the keel the rocker
> and short waterline of the boat makes it happy to go sideways as it
> moves straight ahead.  From pictures I've seen on the coots.org  website
> I think this would be the perfect vessel for the Halloween float on
> Saturday, plus I'd like to see the area, and attend a coots gathering. 
> I'd like go come join but don't know how the shuttle back works and
> would need to be shuttled back to my car (tan escort) at the put in
> spot.  How does the shuttle work and can I be shuttled?
>
> Here's
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W1qNW7UGJL8eVothyoQUBHEb-kPY7NAs/view?usp=sharing> a
> link to a picture of the kayak (without the keel addition.)
>
--
John (jkohnen@...)
If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by
our institutions, great is our sin. (Charles Darwin)




Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

 

My plan is to launch at the Cannon Quarry ramp about 11-ish and start heading up the river about 11:30. I'd be happy to give you a ride, Jim. Company is always nice, and Earl's plans will only allow him to ride with me down from Elk City.

On 10/25/2019 6:37 PM, Waldport Jim wrote:
I can get to the Elk City ramp early, get my boat in the water, and take my Highlander to the Cannon Quarry ramp to transport folks back after the float.  I would need a ride back to Elk City.  Could be in Lazy Jack if you'll have me.  When do you expect to come through?   I could also hitchhike with another Coot going by Cannon Quarry.
--
John (@Jkohnen)
The lack of a sense of history is the damnation of the modern world. (Robert Penn Warren)

Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

jim reim
 

Okay.  I'll plan on getting to the Cannon Quarry ramp (sans boat) by 11:30. 

Jim

On Friday, October 25, 2019, 07:17:46 PM PDT, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:


My plan is to launch at the Cannon Quarry ramp about 11-ish and start
heading up the river about 11:30. I'd be happy to give you a ride, Jim.
Company is always nice, and Earl's plans will only allow him to ride
with me down from Elk City.

On 10/25/2019 6:37 PM, Waldport Jim wrote:
> I can get to the Elk City ramp early, get my boat in the water, and take
> my Highlander to the Cannon Quarry ramp to transport folks back after
> the float.  I would need a ride back to Elk City.  Could be in Lazy Jack
> if you'll have me.  When do you expect to come through?   I could also
> hitchhike with another Coot going by Cannon Quarry.


--
John (jkohnen@...)
The lack of a sense of history is the damnation of the modern world.
(Robert Penn Warren)




Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

jim reim
 

Okay.  I'll plan on getting to the Cannon Quarry ramp (sans boat) by 11:30. 

Jim

On Friday, October 25, 2019, 07:17:46 PM PDT, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:


My plan is to launch at the Cannon Quarry ramp about 11-ish and start
heading up the river about 11:30. I'd be happy to give you a ride, Jim.
Company is always nice, and Earl's plans will only allow him to ride
with me down from Elk City.

On 10/25/2019 6:37 PM, Waldport Jim wrote:
> I can get to the Elk City ramp early, get my boat in the water, and take
> my Highlander to the Cannon Quarry ramp to transport folks back after
> the float.  I would need a ride back to Elk City.  Could be in Lazy Jack
> if you'll have me.  When do you expect to come through?   I could also
> hitchhike with another Coot going by Cannon Quarry.


--
John (jkohnen@...)
The lack of a sense of history is the damnation of the modern world.
(Robert Penn Warren)




Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

John Purdy
 

Thanks All for welcoming me into your group.  I enjoyed meeting all of you and seeing your lovely vessels.  Also enjoyed the float down the river very much, and what nice weather we experienced. 

My keel idea on the white water kayak didn't really work very well as I think it was not aggressive enough.  i.e. not enough below the waterline.  If anybody has pictures of me floating in the water that illustrates what the water line is while I'm in the kayak, I'd sure like to see it for my re-work keel 2.0. 

Thinking of an idea of having the bottom of the keel board flat with practically no rocker and extending it 2 to 3 inches below the middle of the kayaks rocker in the center of the kayak.  This will ensure plenty of keel in the water to try to straighten out the water flow under the boat thereby keeping it bow facing forward.  Also thinking of extending out above and below the waterline about a foot past the bow and past the stern making the 8' kayak 10' over all.

Here's links to pictures of Keel 1.0 that didn't really work as there was not enough below the waterline,  and what I'm thinking about for Keel 2.0.   Boat is upside down on the roof rack, bow is to the left, picture is rotated to approximate what I think may be the water line being level with the horizon.

Keel 1.0 are scrap pieces of 3/4" pine shelving cut to fit the curve of the hull.  Front and back pieces attached to a 7.5' long strip of 3/8" x 1" black delrin stretched along the bottom of the boat.  The front and back pine pieces are tied to the boat with lines that secure to the bow and stern handles.    The idea being that it can be easily removed and still have a viable white water kayak.

Keel 2.0 encapsulates boat and stern of boat which should make tying easier and maybe more secure/stable, also may not need the delrin strip

Any thoughts or ideas? 

John Purdy
Tigard Or

Welsford Pathfinder 4 Sale in Florence

 

https://www.duckworks.com/product-p/jw-pathfinder.htm

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I built to the plans, Sloop Rig, with an enamel paint finish. Sailed her two summers ago, but I'm 74 and simply not getting out on the water.
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Swedish Boatbuilding

 

Someone over on the Bartender group found this illustration of Viking era Swedish boatbuilding. See attachment.

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Re: Swedish Boatbuilding

Andrew Linn
 

That's the right way to do it!

On 10/28/2019 6:56 PM, John Kohnen wrote:
Someone over on the Bartender group found this illustration of Viking era Swedish boatbuilding. See attachment.

Re: Coots' Annual Yaquina River Halloween Float, October 26th

jim reim
 

Below are a couple pictures.
Jim R



On Monday, October 28, 2019, 01:45:37 PM PDT, jtpurdy via Groups.Io <jtpurdy@...> wrote:


Thanks All for welcoming me into your group.  I enjoyed meeting all of you and seeing your lovely vessels.  Also enjoyed the float down the river very much, and what nice weather we experienced. 

My keel idea on the white water kayak didn't really work very well as I think it was not aggressive enough.  i.e. not enough below the waterline.  If anybody has pictures of me floating in the water that illustrates what the water line is while I'm in the kayak, I'd sure like to see it for my re-work keel 2.0. 

Thinking of an idea of having the bottom of the keel board flat with practically no rocker and extending it 2 to 3 inches below the middle of the kayaks rocker in the center of the kayak.  This will ensure plenty of keel in the water to try to straighten out the water flow under the boat thereby keeping it bow facing forward.  Also thinking of extending out above and below the waterline about a foot past the bow and past the stern making the 8' kayak 10' over all.

Here's links to pictures of Keel 1.0 that didn't really work as there was not enough below the waterline,  and what I'm thinking about for Keel 2.0.   Boat is upside down on the roof rack, bow is to the left, picture is rotated to approximate what I think may be the water line being level with the horizon.

Keel 1.0 are scrap pieces of 3/4" pine shelving cut to fit the curve of the hull.  Front and back pieces attached to a 7.5' long strip of 3/8" x 1" black delrin stretched along the bottom of the boat.  The front and back pine pieces are tied to the boat with lines that secure to the bow and stern handles.    The idea being that it can be easily removed and still have a viable white water kayak.

Keel 2.0 encapsulates boat and stern of boat which should make tying easier and maybe more secure/stable, also may not need the delrin strip

Any thoughts or ideas? 

John Purdy
Tigard Or