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Re: Need more help - completely different subject

 

It was my dashing biker persona that caught Mary's eye at Max's tavern (friends from work drug her in there). Little did she know that I was a secret boat nut! <g>

On 12/26/2018 9:26 PM, David G wrote:
Oh... you should have known him in his earlier days. It was like that wherever he went. That's how he ended up with the pick of the litter, Ms. M <G>
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Re: Need more help - completely different subject

 

Those were heady days. A fast black motorcycle, a leather jacket... the girls couldn't resist. Then when I won that Rat Bike trophy they just went wild! ;o) Oh to be forty-something again... <g>

On 12/26/2018 8:32 PM, Andrew wrote:
Check out John with jumping, screaming girls in the background!


http://www.boat-links.com/images/bikes/ME-3.jpg
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Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing. (Henry David Thoreau)


Comfort on 2 wheels -- Shocks

Electri-Cal
 

For those who are following Andrews adventures, The shocks on bikes are made for everyman.  Some too soft with age or leaking, some too hard for various reasons, like different weight on trips etc.  My Maj, was a butt beater on pot holed roads, and harder to control in some situations than I thought was right.  After researching better options I contacted the source for HAGON SHOCKS, and had the sales rep. set me up with a pair shipped from the factory in England.  

I gave them the brand, model, for reference weight, then they asked for my weight, usual riding gear on board, what maximum would be carried, passenger or lighter at some points.  That got me custom shocks for my average riding weight, with a heavier setting for trip weighted extras.  Now I can put all the miles on I want, with zero back ache, no dancing through pot holes, and control is greatly improved.  I added a back rest later, and that finished off the "tour package". for me. 

Since weight  is a big factor on many bikes, especially on tours, It has made sense to get the most comfort, and safety from the suspension.  You can also get heavier or at least new fresh front shock oil, for better front  end control.  that  is more common on track bikes, but  it can also reduce hand vibration or rider fatigue.  I moved my handlebars forward and back till I got the arm reach better for me, and that helped with the angle you sit at for hours at a crack, more comfort by doing that also. 

JUst a few thoughts to make any bike easier to ride for longer distances.  Perhaps the dealers fit the bikes that way with a new one, not sure.  Re fitting the easy to do control stuff makes the bike a whole bunch easier to ride.over time.  MIne is now a comfy as my recliner, way easier to ride as time goes on, and the road unwinds.  A good shock set , and front shock oil  is the start  or the process.  THat's what we did back at Riverside, CA, set  up the bike to the riders size for comfort..

Som easy mods for the Trip, EH ??===  Cal


 



 


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

David Graybeal
 

Oh... you should have known him in his earlier days. It was like that wherever he went. That's how he ended up with the pick of the litter, Ms. M <G>


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Andrew Linn
 

Excellent, excellent. Keep 'em coming.

On 12/26/2018 6:43 PM, David Graybeal via Groups.Io wrote:

I orginally hail  from Clatsop County. Astoria, Seaside, Cannon Beach.

Tons of choices there. Cross the Megler Bridge? Watch the ocean from the South Jetty? Cruise the 'turnaround' at Seaside? Shop for art in Cannon Beach? Wander the artillery bunkers at Ft. Stevens State Park? Museums: Maritime Historical; Firefighters. Seaside Aquarium? Ride 101 and admire the ocean? A short hike to Short Sands Beach? Camp & admire the view from Cole Mtn. Ridge? Climb Saddle Mountain? And that's just a start...

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Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Andrew Linn
 

Check out John with jumping, screaming girls in the background!

On 12/26/2018 1:51 PM, John Kohnen wrote:
I won the "Rat Bike" award at one of the first "Berkeley North" gatherings at Max's tavern in Eugene! <g> My bike was (is, it's sitting idle out back) a '75 Norton Commando with a '70 750 engine in it and the shifter and back brake pedal switched back to the the side God and the Queen intended:

http://www.boat-links.com/images/bikes/ME-3.jpg

Alas, new owners turned Mmax's into a f***ing fern bar... <sigh>

The pre-electric start Commandos are everything I think a motorcycle should be. :o)

http://www.boat-links.com/images/bikes/norton1.jpg


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

David Graybeal
 

I orginally hail  from Clatsop County. Astoria, Seaside, Cannon Beach.

Tons of choices there. Cross the Megler Bridge? Watch the ocean from the South Jetty? Cruise the 'turnaround' at Seaside? Shop for art in Cannon Beach? Wander the artillery bunkers at Ft. Stevens State Park? Museums: Maritime Historical; Firefighters. Seaside Aquarium? Ride 101 and admire the ocean? A short hike to Short Sands Beach? Camp & admire the view from Cole Mtn. Ridge? Climb Saddle Mountain? And that's just a start...


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

 

I won the "Rat Bike" award at one of the first "Berkeley North" gatherings at Max's tavern in Eugene! <g> My bike was (is, it's sitting idle out back) a '75 Norton Commando with a '70 750 engine in it and the shifter and back brake pedal switched back to the the side God and the Queen intended:

http://www.boat-links.com/images/bikes/ME-3.jpg

Alas, new owners turned Mmax's into a f***ing fern bar... <sigh>

The pre-electric start Commandos are everything I think a motorcycle should be. :o)

http://www.boat-links.com/images/bikes/norton1.jpg

On 12/26/2018 9:05 AM, Phil Peck wrote:
It would appear that coots are adventure types regardless if it is boats or bikes. ...
As with boats or bikes, the best memories seems to be when the boat or bike was what (others) viewed as funky.
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Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Vince K.
 

That's definitely a much higher performance bike than my old 200cc (air cooled) was. 
A motorcycle mechanic friend of mine said water cooled engines perform way better.  
Plus, I think that is a fuel injected engine which makes an even bigger difference
So you probably the same (or even more) power than my old 350 air cooled had. 

And disc brakes too.  My TW had drums and they definitely faded on long hills.... not a good feeling. 

That Honda of yours looks like a really nice bike. 

Vince


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Andrew Linn
 

"Trips" is the plan. The 250 jumps right up to 55mph, but she doesn't like going over 70 (and it takes a bit to get there.) When I took her to the coast, I was ripping along the farm roads - that's where I came up with the idea.

I had considered getting a cheap Chinese bike, the SRS Snake Eyes, to be precise. There's a guy selling them on Craigslist, still in the crate, for $2000. The idea was "What's stupider than doing this on a 250? Doing it on a cheap Chinese 250, of course." Plus, the styling of that bike looks old school.

https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/others/2016-2018-ssr-motorsports-snake-eyes-ar167123.html

In the end, my innate cheapness won out. Plus, Rocinante is a trooper. She needs to become legend. Plus the Snake Eyes has a 1.98 gallon tank. Even if it gets Rocinante's 60+mpg, that's not enough.

On 12/25/2018 2:00 PM, John Kohnen wrote:
"Trips". Good. A single marathon trip to all the counties in Oregon would be a stunt, not an enjoyable adventure. Andrew could get years of fun out of the idea if he savors the attractions of every county over lots of shorter rides.

If Rocinante is comfortable enough for sitting hours in her saddle (I worry about the low seat) there's no reason she'd be unsuitable for the task at hand. She'll have ample power to get up the hills, though slower than a larger capacity bike would do it. She's probably awfully buzzy when she tries to go fast, but that's an incentive to stay on the back roads. <g> Mary bought a 250 Suzuki years ago when she was learning to ride so she could follow my Norton around (she gave up on the idea). I rode it around a bit and was impressed with how well it went along -- as long as you stayed off the freeway. I didn't like it well enough to trade in my Norton though. <g>

I like that Andy's using a modest machine that he already owns. I hate the attitude that every adventure requires buying a bunch of expensive equipment and gear. <sigh>

http://andrewlinn.com/2017/171008_gas/

Have fun, Andy! Take lots of pictures! We expect to read lots of articles about the adventures on Sleeping Schnauzer. Touring the backroads of Oregon on a 250cc motorcycle will be a piece of cake compared to doing the Texas 200 in a Puddle Duck. <g>

Merry Xmas everybody! :o)


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Phil Peck <phil@...>
 

It would appear that coots are adventure types regardless if it is boats or bikes. I too have had many types of bikes and well as boats. Rode a 350 Suzuki from Reedsport to San Diego only stopping for gas. Down the freeway in the late 70's. Then did it again with a 750 with a full screen wind jammer and all. As with boats or bikes, the best memories seems to be when the boat or bike was what (others) viewed as funky. My lastest ride was a KLR 650 duel sport, which suited my riding style the best. I prefer the upright sitting position,the desire to stop at least every 50 miles or less, the ability to go on any road or freeway and then on any logging road or trail. But to mostly just putt around at my leisure.
But I mostly admire Andrews drive,planning, and actual doing of trips, projects, and his ability to post about them. I look forward to hearing about his putting around on his 250 which will be just fine for his style of riding. The best advice someone gave me for taking turns was (look) and where you want to go not where you want to not be.

Phil, in California

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From: Andrew Linn
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 7:08 AM
To: Coots
Subject: [oregoncoots] Need more help - completely different subject

Starting in March, we are moving to a 4-day work week. My big plan is to
use the weekends to achieve my goal of motorbiking to every county in
Oregon. Courthouses are cool and they will be the reason for the trip,
BUT, I've decided to make this a "Travelogue of Oregon" kind of thing.
Here's what I need from y'all:

What's the neatest thing to see in your county? For instance, here in
Marion County, I'd take someone to Willamette Mission State Park, Silver
Falls, and/or Willamette University. For Yamhill, something like the
Evergreen Air and Space museum.

Since my little 250 doesn't like freeway speeds, I'm doing highways and
back roads. Interesting sights and routes - including dirt or logging
roads - are welcome. Crack-in-the-Ground, Hole-in-the-Ground, Vista
House, Astoria Column, etc. For Jefferson County, I'll probably visit
the Cove State Park. Things like that. Good photo opportunities and
maybe some history.






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Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Electri-Cal
 

Hi, Case-- and Coots --- A big part of the equation as riding comfort is the bike weight and style, come on by and try mine out.  HD has that big Vee twin motor down low as possible, as do a lot of cruisers, and in fact my Majesty  (motor and gas at bottom of frame) as well.  The Triumph  955i frame weight was much higher, and gas tank on top (many now are lower in the frame ), which made tight cornering easier.  It liked to really lay down and speed up through corners, more like track handling, easy steering at extreme  lean angles.  Not like real crotch rockets, but closer to that type of ride.

BMW boxers, Italian Guzzi,  most scooters, have metal weights lower as well, so it seems that lower weight placement is best for road, higher is more "twisties" oriented, as a general thought.  I was pleased to find the Majesty at 130 lb. HEAVIER than the Triumph -- was way easier to push around.   Easier to control the Majesty at lower speeds in town, lower speed cornering better too.  Never noticed that before, since I had mostly ridden British bikes with higher motor placement.   A good case for a low motor placement for street, higher weight for agility on back (or non) roads..  Would sure appreciate a bit of warm to ride in, after the longish lay off lately, we have a super rural eatery I just found, and on a good Winery lined road, a fun riding experience.

Road comfort takes a bit of doing for my size.  I changed some seat  height stuff first.  The best (essential !!) change was  far better Hagon brand (for all bikes! ) rear shocks, custom fitted to my largish weight and riding style, an enormous difference in how road defects get to the rider, and way more comfort there.  Fresh  front fork oil helps too,  but scooters, even 400 cc ones now have better touring set ups, taller wind screens, floorboards etc.   Then I added a serious back rest, you "Become the bike" in corners, very cool.   Next time you are over this way, drop on by and bring your gear, you can try it, then we'll do lunch and get a few miles in this-A-way., ok ??   That goes for my other riding coot friends as well, a snack run to a GREAT local rural grill.

Have a great holiday season everybody,  Cal


On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 6:31 AM Case Turner <casesturner@...> wrote:
Of note I have found that my current ride, CRF-250L has plenty of power on the highway. I can zip right up hills no problem, even loaded to the hilt with camp gear. What I have found is that I can't ride on this bike at highway speeds for long period s of time. The bike dry is only 317 pounds and when bucking wind or catching cross wind from truck etc it really wears on ya. My Harley was 489 pounds dry and I could ride that for hours at 65-70. On the CRF at 55-60 I'm good for only about 100 miles before I need to stop for a while. Then I'm only good for 200 miles a day anymore. If I drop the bike down to 45-50 I can go 150 miles before stopping and total of 250.

Case

On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 8:08 PM Vince K. <vnkurpan@...> wrote:
It's not that a 250 won't go the distance but when I had my 200 I found myself on some hills being tailgated 6' off my back wheel.
Not a comfortable (or safe) situation at all.  (Back roads tend to have steeper hills.)
The 350 (after getting an illegal tune-up) eliminated that situation and I didn't have to shift nearly so much.
I felt much safer.

On flat ground it wasn't a problem.  Plenty of power there.

Vince


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Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Case Turner
 

Of note I have found that my current ride, CRF-250L has plenty of power on the highway. I can zip right up hills no problem, even loaded to the hilt with camp gear. What I have found is that I can't ride on this bike at highway speeds for long period s of time. The bike dry is only 317 pounds and when bucking wind or catching cross wind from truck etc it really wears on ya. My Harley was 489 pounds dry and I could ride that for hours at 65-70. On the CRF at 55-60 I'm good for only about 100 miles before I need to stop for a while. Then I'm only good for 200 miles a day anymore. If I drop the bike down to 45-50 I can go 150 miles before stopping and total of 250.

Case


On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 8:08 PM Vince K. <vnkurpan@...> wrote:
It's not that a 250 won't go the distance but when I had my 200 I found myself on some hills being tailgated 6' off my back wheel.
Not a comfortable (or safe) situation at all.  (Back roads tend to have steeper hills.)
The 350 (after getting an illegal tune-up) eliminated that situation and I didn't have to shift nearly so much.
I felt much safer.

On flat ground it wasn't a problem.  Plenty of power there.

Vince


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Dirt


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Vince K.
 

It's not that a 250 won't go the distance but when I had my 200 I found myself on some hills being tailgated 6' off my back wheel.
Not a comfortable (or safe) situation at all.  (Back roads tend to have steeper hills.)
The 350 (after getting an illegal tune-up) eliminated that situation and I didn't have to shift nearly so much.
I felt much safer.

On flat ground it wasn't a problem.  Plenty of power there.

Vince


A Couple of Useful Sites

 

Stumbled upon while doing some non boaty reading on the Interweb. Old how-to books for after the s*** hits the fan -- if the Interweb is still working:

http://www.survivorlibrary.com/library-download

Heard about this one on NPR. Sounds like my kinda guys:

http://www.dullmensclub.com/

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Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday. (Don Marquis)


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

 

"Trips". Good. A single marathon trip to all the counties in Oregon would be a stunt, not an enjoyable adventure. Andrew could get years of fun out of the idea if he savors the attractions of every county over lots of shorter rides.

If Rocinante is comfortable enough for sitting hours in her saddle (I worry about the low seat) there's no reason she'd be unsuitable for the task at hand. She'll have ample power to get up the hills, though slower than a larger capacity bike would do it. She's probably awfully buzzy when she tries to go fast, but that's an incentive to stay on the back roads. <g> Mary bought a 250 Suzuki years ago when she was learning to ride so she could follow my Norton around (she gave up on the idea). I rode it around a bit and was impressed with how well it went along -- as long as you stayed off the freeway. I didn't like it well enough to trade in my Norton though. <g>

I like that Andy's using a modest machine that he already owns. I hate the attitude that every adventure requires buying a bunch of expensive equipment and gear. <sigh>

http://andrewlinn.com/2017/171008_gas/

Have fun, Andy! Take lots of pictures! We expect to read lots of articles about the adventures on Sleeping Schnauzer. Touring the backroads of Oregon on a 250cc motorcycle will be a piece of cake compared to doing the Texas 200 in a Puddle Duck. <g>

Merry Xmas everybody! :o)

On 12/25/2018 7:58 AM, Andrew wrote:
"Have you considered a 400-650 dual sport for this trip?"
The whole point of doing the trips at all is to do it on a bike that appears, on the surface, unsuited to the task. Plus, I have a 250 :)
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Of all tools used in the shadow of the moon, men are most apt to get out of order. (Herman Melville)


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

 

If you find yourself in Washington County on a motorcycle a good way to escape is over Cornelius Pass to Hwy. 30 and Multnomah County. Cornelius Pass Road is a good, windy motorcycle road through some nice country. But Jim C says it's no fun in an old semi without power steering. <g> Once over Cornelius Pass you can head north and west through the counties along the Columbia River. When going to points down the Columbia I often head over through Washington County and over Cornelius Pass to avoid the worst of the Megalopolis.

On 12/25/2018 6:44 AM, Vince K. wrote:
...
Washington country (where I live) you might want to skip. :-)
Hagg lake is about it.  Make sure you go when there's water in it.
Downtown Hillsboro is OK and there's the farmers market on summer weekends.
Maybe the air show would be something to consider.
Other than that, there's the Ron Tonkin baseball "stadium", Nike headquarters, and several Intel plants.
Not exactly a tourist destination.
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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. (Bertrand Russell)


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Electri-Cal
 

Not so much different from the touring the US on most scooters.  On the Majesty web site, the Yamahas  from 250 through my 400 size regularly tour huge distances.  Many take them over 20K a year, average take an annual vacation from Chicago to Miami, or the other way,  or Seattle to Tucson and back -- check out those tours on line.  Many group members are at or over what we do in a year, as an annual single trip.  Several report zero repairs except  drive belt change for many thousands of miles, and get 60 mpg doing it.  Don't really need more than that, my 30+ HP, and the weather protection is a big plus on scooters, and safer to ride overall.  Planning and preparing is the key to success, and doing extra bike
services before is a big help .  Best of luck Andrew !!!



On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 7:58 AM Andrew Linn <alinn@...> wrote:
"Have you considered a 400-650 dual sport for this trip?"
The whole point of doing the trips at all is to do it on a bike that
appears, on the surface, unsuited to the task. Plus, I have a 250 :)

Lost Lake is a great idea - that really is beautiful up there.
Washington County will take some cogitating. You are right, probably
something more cultural rather than scenic.

On 12/25/2018 6:44 AM, Vince K. wrote:
> I used to live in Hood River county where there's lot of good places.
> Lost Lake is probably the most spectacular though.
> It could be a nice ride up there too but it's a lot of climbing for a
> 250.
> (Do you have disc brakes or drum brakes?.... just asking)
> Have you considered a 400-650 dual sport for this trip?
>
> Washington country (where I live) you might want to skip. :-)
> Hagg lake is about it.  Make sure you go when there's water in it.
> Downtown Hillsboro is OK and there's the farmers market on summer
> weekends.
> Maybe the air show would be something to consider.
> Other than that, there's the Ron Tonkin baseball "stadium", Nike
> headquarters, and several Intel plants.
> Not exactly a tourist destination.
>
> VK




Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

This whole thing makes me think of my dream of a steam bike.

My dad went all over the UK, on a 125, so it can be done, he was a skinny-rag-weed kid of 20 though. If you consider it half way between a bicycle and a motorcycle it will seem very high power :)
He always seems to think the clothing was the key with that we UK weather. But Oregon summers are much more predictable. What time of year are you setting out?

Sounds like a splendid premise for a trip. Have you read ‘Blue highways’? About one mans journey through Americas small towns and back roads in an old van. Nice book you could enjoy before the rain stops.
Best...
-Jove



On Dec 25, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Vince K. <vnkurpan@...> wrote:

You're probably thinner and lighter than me. :-)

Vince


Re: Need more help - completely different subject

Vince K.
 

You're probably thinner and lighter than me. :-)

Vince

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