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Group Cruise from Olympia to Port Townsend

 

Marty L posted this over on the Pocket yachters' group. Sounds like a fun cruise! I may sign up. But it'll have to be either the Salish 100 or the Palooza for me...

"The Salish 100 will depart Olympia on Saturday, June 22, and reach Port Townsend by the following Thursday, with planned overnight stops at Penrose Point State Park, Gig Harbor, Blake Island State Park, Kingston (or maybe Miller Bay, near Indianola), and Mats Mats Bay before reaching Port Townsend.

"The Salish 100 will be a relaxed cruise just like the shorter Palooza Crooza, in that it’ll feature pretty achievable distances to cover each day, along with careful planning by organizers so that we’re taking advantage of favorable tides and currents; anchoring in protected back bays; and supported by a few 'motherships' that’ll be available if anyone needs a tow or other assistance.

"Lots of additional details will be posted by December on the Pocket Yachters website, www.pocketyachters.com"

--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
The louder he talks of honour, the faster we count our spoons. (Ralph Waldo Emerson)


Halloween Yaquina River Float, Nov. 4th

 

The Coots' annual Halloween float down the Yaquina River from Elk City to the Cannon Quarry ramp, upstream from Toledo, is coming up soon! We schedule the float so we have a good ebb tide in the afternoon, so this year the float is a few days after Halloween proper. We'll be leaving Elk City about noon. After we pull our boats at the Cannon Quarry ramp we'll repair to the pizza parlor in Toledo for an early dinner:

http://www.coots.org/mb/Halloween/

The Yaquina floats are always fun, even if it rains and blows. It feels so good to warm up in a warm, dry restaurant afterwards! :o)

--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Listen! The wind is rising, and the air is wild with leaves, We have had our summer evenings, now for October eves! (Humbert Wolfe)


Re: barge for Sail

lon wells <lononriver@...>
 

I told the wife the same thing.

On Oct 22, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Richard Green <chaos5@viclink.com> wrote:

Oh my! That barge is rife with potential….shame I’m too old anymore to tackle it. It coulda been a contender…!

Rich

On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:56 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

It's not really practical to bring out here to use as a Coot Clubhouse, but an interesting vessel nonetheless. It's what's left of the failed Vermont Sail Freight Project:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7gbz6bm

Mentioned over on the Bolger Boats group.

--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
The best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it. (Harry S Truman)






Re: barge for Sail

Richard Green
 

Of course, shipping it out here, redoing the cabins for more spaciousness for use woulda been quite expensive.  I hope they find a good home.  Lot of work in that vessel.

Rich

On Oct 22, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Richard Green <chaos5@...> wrote:

Oh my!  That barge is rife with potential….shame I’m too old anymore to tackle it.  It coulda been a contender…!

Rich

On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:56 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

It's not really practical to bring out here to use as a Coot Clubhouse, but an interesting vessel nonetheless. It's what's left of the failed Vermont Sail Freight Project:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7gbz6bm

Mentioned over on the Bolger Boats group.

-- 
John (jkohnen@...)
The best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it. (Harry S Truman)








Re: barge for Sail

Richard Green
 

Oh my! That barge is rife with potential….shame I’m too old anymore to tackle it. It coulda been a contender…!

Rich

On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:56 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

It's not really practical to bring out here to use as a Coot Clubhouse, but an interesting vessel nonetheless. It's what's left of the failed Vermont Sail Freight Project:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7gbz6bm

Mentioned over on the Bolger Boats group.

--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
The best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it. (Harry S Truman)




barge for Sail

 

It's not really practical to bring out here to use as a Coot Clubhouse, but an interesting vessel nonetheless. It's what's left of the failed Vermont Sail Freight Project:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7gbz6bm

Mentioned over on the Bolger Boats group.

--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
The best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it. (Harry S Truman)


Selling Adirondack Guide Boat Kit

Bob Miller
 

The PT Pocket Yachters "For Sale" site is currently frozen. Computer crash. In process of a rebuild. Until it's back up, I'm sending this info out ad hoc to all my boating contacts before I post it on Craigslist. Contact info below.


15’ Cedar Adirondack Guide Boat $15,700 

Get yours for $3,250 (cedar strip kit) !!

 

I am selling a kit for a 15'  cedar Adirondack Guide Boat designed and sold by Steve Kaulback when he still owned the Adirondack Guide Boat Company in Vermont. It's the kit they still sell. I bought it when they were still visiting the WBF. I'm selling it because I want to upgrade to an 8 hp outboard with electric start for my Drascombe Longboat. It's a hedge against advancing age. I want to camp-cruise for many years into the future, so I'm making it as comfortable as possible. Rowing is no longer a great option for me.

 

I checked prices recently at the Adirondack Guide Boat Company.

 

The completed cedar version of the 15 footer runs $15,700.

The Kevlar version is $4,650

The cedar strip kit runs $4,350 plus shipping. This includes 8’ cherry oar blanks with classic hardware.

I have extras: a sliding seat, adjustable footrest, 2nd cane seat back, oar bag, sneak paddle = $870 ($5,220 total current value).

 

My price for the kit (with the extras) is $3,250. Over a 37% discount from current value.

 

This comes with an assembled building jig with strongback, brass fasteners, and fiberglass mat, which no longer comes with the kit (it also includes MAS epoxy, but it is about 10 years old and suspect).

 

Below is coverage of the actual kit from Small Boat Monthly (with video).

https://smallboatsmonthly.com/article/the-adirondack-guideboat/

 

Contact: Bob Miller

rmiller43@...

(360) 385-9585



Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

 

Since you're a whiz with CAD you could quickly turn that lines drawing into plans for a modern Wee Pup, with help from the dimensions given in the article. Little boats like that are awfully simple, and a deviation of a fraction of an inch here or there from the "true" lines from 1906 wouldn't matter. A modern Wee Pup could be built multi-chine using stich 'n' goo :ob or battens at the chines, but a little boat like that would be a fun way to try glued lapstrake plywood construction. :o)

http://www.boat-links.com/images/WeePupRudder1906.pdf

Of course the Portage Pram is a boat much like Wee Pup, and the plans are already done:

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/category-s/463.htm

The Portage Pram is shorter and fatter than Wee Pup. Which is "bigger" (will carry the most weight comfortably)? If you've got 8' of length to stow the boat, I think you should build a boat close to 8' long...

On 10/19/2018 1:09 PM, Dirt wrote:
Yep that’s a good one John. It seems that maybe you sent me the lines to this many moons ago. I know I have it filed away somewhere. I need to look into it more.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
The magic of autumn has seized the countryside; now that the sun isn't ripening anything it shines for the sake of the golden age; for the sake of Eden; to please the moon for all I know. (Elizabeth Coatsworth)


Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

Richard Green
 

Small Craft Advisor recently did an analysis of the “best” dinghy of six or eight samples.    I can’t seem to find it yet but it’s out there in the ether. 

Rich



On Oct 19, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Case Turner <dirtsailor2003@...> wrote:

Yep that’s a good one John. It seems that maybe you sent me the lines to this many moons ago. I know I have it filed away somewhere. I need to look into it more. 

Dirt

Sent from not here

On Oct 19, 2018, at 12:52 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

Well, not plans exactly... The article was published in 1906, and back then I guess they figured that an undimensioned lines drawing and some photos were enough for somebody to build a boat. <g> And build them they did, with photos of Wee Pup showing up in The Rudder for years afterwards. Here's the article (It was also reprinted in Small Boat Journal in 1980):

http://www.boat-links.com/images/WeePupRudder1906.pdf

On 10/19/2018 1:04 AM, I wrote:
The Portage Pram is a nice looking little boat:
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/category-s/463.htm
Reminds me of a little pram designed by Winfield M. Thompson and published in The Rudder a century or so ago..It was called Wee Pup and attracted quite a bit of attention, with readers later sending photos of Wee Pups they'd built. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Petersons were inspired by Wee Pup when they designed the Portage Pram.

-- 
John (jkohnen@...)
Your friend will argue with you. (Alexander Solzhenitsyn)







Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

Case Turner
 

Yep that’s a good one John. It seems that maybe you sent me the lines to this many moons ago. I know I have it filed away somewhere. I need to look into it more.

Dirt

Sent from not here

On Oct 19, 2018, at 12:52 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

Well, not plans exactly... The article was published in 1906, and back then I guess they figured that an undimensioned lines drawing and some photos were enough for somebody to build a boat. <g> And build them they did, with photos of Wee Pup showing up in The Rudder for years afterwards. Here's the article (It was also reprinted in Small Boat Journal in 1980):

http://www.boat-links.com/images/WeePupRudder1906.pdf

On 10/19/2018 1:04 AM, I wrote:
The Portage Pram is a nice looking little boat:
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/category-s/463.htm
Reminds me of a little pram designed by Winfield M. Thompson and published in The Rudder a century or so ago..It was called Wee Pup and attracted quite a bit of attention, with readers later sending photos of Wee Pups they'd built. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Petersons were inspired by Wee Pup when they designed the Portage Pram.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Your friend will argue with you. (Alexander Solzhenitsyn)




Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

 

Well, not plans exactly... The article was published in 1906, and back then I guess they figured that an undimensioned lines drawing and some photos were enough for somebody to build a boat. <g> And build them they did, with photos of Wee Pup showing up in The Rudder for years afterwards. Here's the article (It was also reprinted in Small Boat Journal in 1980):

http://www.boat-links.com/images/WeePupRudder1906.pdf

On 10/19/2018 1:04 AM, I wrote:
The Portage Pram is a nice looking little boat:
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/category-s/463.htm
Reminds me of a little pram designed by Winfield M. Thompson and published in The Rudder a century or so ago..It was called Wee Pup and attracted quite a bit of attention, with readers later sending photos of Wee Pups they'd built. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Petersons were inspired by Wee Pup when they designed the Portage Pram.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Your friend will argue with you. (Alexander Solzhenitsyn)


Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

 

Dave H from Eugene is having trouble posting to the group so I'm passing this along:

"At the boathouse, I have an idea. Warren Jordan gave me plans for his Newt Canoe to use for youth groups that I work with. We were to build one, or two, like another organization had successfully done. Alas, it is taking time to get it together … worked into the curriculums already in place at a high school.

"So, I’m wondering if building a couple of Newts would be a great thing, at the Boat House. They are quick, easy, and great little boats. I’ll bet Warren would get behind this, too. The Newts could be built and auctioned off for youth development. Toledo HS youth could help build them, possibly keeping them there, locally.

"My personal plan is to build one (in my garage-shop) to auction off in April at the Bridgeway House School auction I’m finishing reworking Kendall’s old Nutshell pram, currently, to have a winter car-topper. Once done, I’ll start on my Newt for the BWH auction.

"Good ideas?

"Yours, Dave "



--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Experience teaches you that the man who looks you straight in the eye, particularly if he adds a firm handshake, is hiding something. (Clifton Fadiman)


Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

 

The Portage Pram is a nice looking little boat:

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/category-s/463.htm

Reminds me of a little pram designed by Winfield M. Thompson and published in The Rudder a century or so ago..It was called Wee Pup and attracted quite a bit of attention, with readers later sending photos of Wee Pups they'd built. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Petersons were inspired by Wee Pup when they designed the Portage Pram.


Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

Andrew Linn
 

We did three versions: Tik Tak (8' long, 32"- 38" wide, 2 sheets of plywood) Tik Tak Ten-ish (116" long, 28" wide, 2 sheets of plywood), and the Tik Tak Too (12' long, whatever width you want up to 38", 3 sheets of ply)

All of them work great.

http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/plans/150318_tiktakten/tiktak.pdf

On 10/18/2018 7:42 PM, Dan wrote:

Hey, Andy:

What are the basic dimensions of the tic-tac?  I’m remembering about 24 x 72 (?)  Dan


Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

Bob Miller
 

Check out the Portage Pram at Duckworks.

Bob

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 4:47 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
I'm really impressed with Dennis's Tiny Ripple. Despite his best efforts
it hasn't drowned him yet! ;o) One time on the Freeway Lakes he somehow
slipped and fell between the longitudinal seat and the side, but the
boat didn't capsize or throw him out, it just shipped maybe a quart of
water and then sat there while he sorted himself out. :o) But Tiny
Ripple is really a one-man boat. You can carry two people in one, but
neither is having fun:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/albums/72157633344127723

http://www.atkinboatplans.com/Dinks/TinyRipple.html

Dennis built his stictch 'n' goo out of light plywood.

On 10/18/2018 8:50 AM, Mark N wrote:
> Hi Case,
>
> My mistake, it was Dennis Banta who had the Tiny Ripple.  But maybe he came
> by with Bob in the boat with him.
>
> Either way, a pretty little craft.  Still on my list, so I'd be happy if
> you wanted to do it and we could share forms.

--
John (jkohnen@...)
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose
our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. (Abraham Lincoln)





Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

Dan
 

Hey, Andy:

 

What are the basic dimensions of the tic-tac?  I’m remembering about 24 x 72 (?)  Dan


Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

Joe Novello
 

There is an Elgant Punt at the boathouse folks can try out any time.  The Reyired Old Guys are building one some time in the next couple of months for one of the crew.  It is a short two or three day build. 

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 5:03 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
All the Atkin flat-bottom prams could easily be converted to plywood
construction. What do you like about 'Itty Bitty in particular?

http://www.atkinboatplans.com/Dinks/

On 10/18/2018 6:21 AM, Dirt wrote:
> I have considered building another one of Dave's skin on frame boats.
> Unfortunately the ones that I am considering are all too big to fit in
> the trailer. The Piankatank River pram would fit, but I think its quite
> what I want.
>
> I have plans for cabin boy and another Atkins pram ? floating around in
> my plan files somewhere. I may have to revisit those again. Itty Bitty
> could be a good option as it requires very little lofting and should be
> suitable for plywood construction.
> ...

--
John (jkohnen@...)
"Necessity is the mother of invention" is a silly proverb. "Necessity is
the mother of futile dodges" is much nearer the truth. (Alfred North
Whitehead)




--
Joe Novello


Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

 

All the Atkin flat-bottom prams could easily be converted to plywood construction. What do you like about 'Itty Bitty in particular?

http://www.atkinboatplans.com/Dinks/

On 10/18/2018 6:21 AM, Dirt wrote:
I have considered building another one of Dave's skin on frame boats. Unfortunately the ones that I am considering are all too big to fit in the trailer. The Piankatank River pram would fit, but I think its quite what I want.
I have plans for cabin boy and another Atkins pram ? floating around in my plan files somewhere. I may have to revisit those again. Itty Bitty could be a good option as it requires very little lofting and should be suitable for plywood construction.
...
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
"Necessity is the mother of invention" is a silly proverb. "Necessity is the mother of futile dodges" is much nearer the truth. (Alfred North Whitehead)


Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

 

I'm really impressed with Dennis's Tiny Ripple. Despite his best efforts it hasn't drowned him yet! ;o) One time on the Freeway Lakes he somehow slipped and fell between the longitudinal seat and the side, but the boat didn't capsize or throw him out, it just shipped maybe a quart of water and then sat there while he sorted himself out. :o) But Tiny Ripple is really a one-man boat. You can carry two people in one, but neither is having fun:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/albums/72157633344127723

http://www.atkinboatplans.com/Dinks/TinyRipple.html

Dennis built his stictch 'n' goo out of light plywood.

On 10/18/2018 8:50 AM, Mark N wrote:
Hi Case,
My mistake, it was Dennis Banta who had the Tiny Ripple. But maybe he came
by with Bob in the boat with him.
Either way, a pretty little craft. Still on my list, so I'd be happy if
you wanted to do it and we could share forms.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. (Abraham Lincoln)


Re: Doing More Messing About in Toledo

 

I don't blame you for not wanting to do a stitch 'n' goo boat. :ob

Ladybug is an interesting boat. The 7-footer is probably as small as you should go if you want to do anything with two people aboard (some smaller dinks will carry two people, carefully, to shore and back from a moored boat, but you wouldn't want to spend time trying to have fun in them):

http://www.harrybryan.com/harrybryan/plan13.html

http://www.harrybryan.com/harrybryan/plans.html

What's wrong with the Elegant Punt? An Elegant Punt is big enough for two people to enjoy themselves (within limits <g>) in one:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/45365287082/in/album-72157640933167354/

On 10/18/2018 11:48 AM, Dirt wrote:
I'd really like to avoid a stitch and glue boat and will probably forgo a kit boat. Another boat that has interested me is Harry Bryan's Ladybug, the wheelbarrow boat.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
The best way to give advice to your children is to find out what they want and then advise them to do it. (Harry S Truman)

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