Date   

Re: Nice Boat For Sale in Waldport

 

That's sure a nice looking rowboat! A bargain for sure at the price hinted at. One of the best places to advertise an odd boat (that Whitehall isn't at all odd to us, but it is to the general public <g>) is the Pocket Yachters 4 Sale page:

http://www.pocketyachters.com/Port_Townsend_Pocket_Yachters/Boats_For_Sale.html

What's up with all the blanks space there and "scroll down to see listings"?

On 9/26/2018 12:11 PM, Waldport Jim via Groups.Io wrote:
I have a  neighbor who needs to sell his LITTLE RIVER HERITAGE 15 CLASSIC rowboat.  It has a sleek fifteen foot by forty inch "lapstrake" fiberglass hull, with a wineglass transom.  Included are a sliding seat, carbon fiber oars, folding outriggers, an aluminum Trailex trailer, and wheels that can be mounted on the oarlocks to assist in moving it by hand.  specifications and other information can be found on the Little River website ( http://www.littlerivermarine.com/heritage-15-classic/). The owner confirms what the website says about the boat being both easy to row,  fast, and stable.  The website also indicates that a sail package is available. The boat's been stored under cover and both it and trailer appear to be in excellent condition.
The owner hasn't yet put a firm price on the package, but he's talking about something in the area of $1000.  Based on what I've found these boats costing on internet ads, such a price would be a real bargain.
Tomorrow I'm going to get pictures of the boat and help him advertise it.  If anyone is interested and has questions, contact me (541-961-2133) and I will get answers.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Antisocial behavior is a trait of intelligence in a world full of conformists. (Nikola Tesla)


Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !! Fullservice Idea

Electri-Cal
 

I need to read closer, or at least wake up occasionally !!  Sorry for not fixing your name mistake before.  Will try to get Jove right.  Jove, Jove – very cool, now to file that in my own mind.

 

Best Wishes,   Cal  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jove Lachman-Curl
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:40 PM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !! Fullservice Idea

 

Just general info, any Oregon 

university that accepts state funds has to offer free 

Library cards to anyone with an Oregon residence, this includes OSU

And UO, they have long checkout times. 8 or 12 week I think,

 I’ve used these services without issue, but it’s been a few years.

-Jove


On Sep 27, 2018, at 8:55 PM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

Hi, Joe!!

Thanks for your thoughtful input.  I’m sure we all will include that set of options for the curatorship.  Any floating library sounds cool, but is still less secure than a building on land.  I like the idea of a boat reading room a lot though.  The last paragraph maybe expands on the idea train on this.

 

The library at OSU is interesting as it is in the middle of most active coots travel range.  If they would be able to get books to those who are willing to pay the postage for a reasonable check out time.  Would they have to have the library card, and if so , how much is the cost to each, or maybe a club single membership for XX $$ to members of record.

 

Marine heritage center is also a great idea.  Same question as above, as far as checking books out.  While I’m thinking about those severl great options – can any of the facilities make plan copies or article pages as desired from plans.  If that service was available, a COOT could ask for a copy of plans or maybe even articles just be sent for fast and direct building right swift.  Or our own COOT class dinghy, similar to ( or exactly) the ones done at the shows in Toledo to make it easy.

 

Another thought about not needing the book for months as reference.  I see that copying as an extra service to raise money to offset having the books on hand centrally.  Could save enough travel time and gas cost for builders to easy offset the plan copies cost.  The plans or book doesn’t leave the building either, so several boats could be built as a “class”, even Bolger punts, or the Tern, for new folks.  This could help new builders anywhere.  Just get info. As to member reliability, or copyright if any exists. Send cash, the facility sends the plans/ pages and ship on receipt, no credit cards needed.  

 

Not trying to be difficult, I like your thoughts, thanks again ---  Cal

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joe Novello
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:55 PM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io; Bob Larkin; Brian Getting; Brian Getting; Bud Shoemake; David West; Guy Hadden; Joe Novello; Karen Johnson; Keith Korporaal; Kelly Greer; Landon Reno; Ron Yenchik; Thomas Murphy
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

 

Hi all,

 

I spoke with the Retired Old Guy Sailing Club today.  They share the concerns mentioned about humidity and moisture and do not think the idea of storing the books in the boathouse is the best idea.  To that end three other suggestions came up. Top of the list was to approach the Marine Heritage Center in Newport and see if they would be willing, with help, to store and manage the collection. The second recommendation was the Library at the OSU Marine Science Center. I do not have connections there anymore so am not sure who to contact to explore that option.  The third option which resulted in a lot of discussion was to construct a purpose built facility similar to the Rick Johnson's Gypsy Rose  or a smaller boat house like the two we already have with some climate control equipment aboard which could house the collection and have a "reading room" aboard for visiting and perusing the collections.  

 

After all is said and done, I suspect that regardless of how the Coots go with their collection, something will be in the works for the Retired Old Guys to develop a local collection and space to read and loan out books of interest to those interested.  

 

I'm glad to be part of this discussion and look forward to harvesting ideas as they develop.

 

Joe

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:30 AM Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

Once again, I hope they weren’t coot club books.  They do not belong to the keeper, obviously we need our books returned at an event.  That is the librarians obligation, I would think.

 

Please return the boating books from our library, if not being used, Thanks,--  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Richard Green
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:02 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Ah, well…..books went to the thrift shop.  I’m clearing stuff out..  However, I have some other books as well that would be of interest.

 

Rich

 

On Sep 26, 2018, at 6:30 AM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

 

I would guess that this whole thing is a good example for us.  I would have liked to see the 100 small boat rigs too.  Love those Ideal series, maybe it will appear tomorrow??  I was there last week, how’d I miss the book part, oh well.

 

Hot on “the Scout” --  later,  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Kohnen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:52 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Rich G had a copy of Instant Boats at lunch last Thursday, trying to 

give it to the Library. Also 100 Small Boat Rigs and an Ideal Series 

book. At first I hesitated, because the fate of the Coots' Library was 

uncertain. I guess I was still addled from the knock on the head -- I 

only took the Ideal book after I changed my mind. <g> I hope you didn't 

give the books to St. Vinny's, Rich. Save them for the Library, it looks 

like it may have some more life in it yet!

 

On 9/24/2018 9:57 PM, Dirt wrote:

> ...

> My copy of Instant Boats is floating around out there somewhere. Wish I had it right now as we need to Build a couple Elegant punts this winter.

> 

> Anyone have the book or plans?

 

-- 

If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think. (Clarence 

Darrow)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !! Fullservice Idea

Electri-Cal
 

Evidentially the Eugene city library is not aware of that, or the city run places are not required to give free cards.  We would LOVE to not have to pay, just because we live far enough out that we do not get taxed for those public services.  We do get taxed for Creswell schools, even though we are outside the town limits tax area.

 

I think I will call the U of O library today, or  scooter on by and ask about that.  The Creswell card I have is free forever – and they are affiliated with the U of O.  Makes me wonder now, humm !!  What if I presented that card at the down town library, I would get an answer easier from them direct.

 

Thanks for the heads Up ---  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jove Lachman-Curl
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 9:40 PM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !! Fullservice Idea

 

Just general info, any Oregon 

university that accepts state funds has to offer free 

Library cards to anyone with an Oregon residence, this includes OSU

And UO, they have long checkout times. 8 or 12 week I think,

 I’ve used these services without issue, but it’s been a few years.

-Jove


On Sep 27, 2018, at 8:55 PM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

Hi, Joe!!

Thanks for your thoughtful input.  I’m sure we all will include that set of options for the curatorship.  Any floating library sounds cool, but is still less secure than a building on land.  I like the idea of a boat reading room a lot though.  The last paragraph maybe expands on the idea train on this.

 

The library at OSU is interesting as it is in the middle of most active coots travel range.  If they would be able to get books to those who are willing to pay the postage for a reasonable check out time.  Would they have to have the library card, and if so , how much is the cost to each, or maybe a club single membership for XX $$ to members of record.

 

Marine heritage center is also a great idea.  Same question as above, as far as checking books out.  While I’m thinking about those severl great options – can any of the facilities make plan copies or article pages as desired from plans.  If that service was available, a COOT could ask for a copy of plans or maybe even articles just be sent for fast and direct building right swift.  Or our own COOT class dinghy, similar to ( or exactly) the ones done at the shows in Toledo to make it easy.

 

Another thought about not needing the book for months as reference.  I see that copying as an extra service to raise money to offset having the books on hand centrally.  Could save enough travel time and gas cost for builders to easy offset the plan copies cost.  The plans or book doesn’t leave the building either, so several boats could be built as a “class”, even Bolger punts, or the Tern, for new folks.  This could help new builders anywhere.  Just get info. As to member reliability, or copyright if any exists. Send cash, the facility sends the plans/ pages and ship on receipt, no credit cards needed.  

 

Not trying to be difficult, I like your thoughts, thanks again ---  Cal

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joe Novello
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:55 PM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io; Bob Larkin; Brian Getting; Brian Getting; Bud Shoemake; David West; Guy Hadden; Joe Novello; Karen Johnson; Keith Korporaal; Kelly Greer; Landon Reno; Ron Yenchik; Thomas Murphy
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

 

Hi all,

 

I spoke with the Retired Old Guy Sailing Club today.  They share the concerns mentioned about humidity and moisture and do not think the idea of storing the books in the boathouse is the best idea.  To that end three other suggestions came up. Top of the list was to approach the Marine Heritage Center in Newport and see if they would be willing, with help, to store and manage the collection. The second recommendation was the Library at the OSU Marine Science Center. I do not have connections there anymore so am not sure who to contact to explore that option.  The third option which resulted in a lot of discussion was to construct a purpose built facility similar to the Rick Johnson's Gypsy Rose  or a smaller boat house like the two we already have with some climate control equipment aboard which could house the collection and have a "reading room" aboard for visiting and perusing the collections.  

 

After all is said and done, I suspect that regardless of how the Coots go with their collection, something will be in the works for the Retired Old Guys to develop a local collection and space to read and loan out books of interest to those interested.  

 

I'm glad to be part of this discussion and look forward to harvesting ideas as they develop.

 

Joe

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:30 AM Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

Once again, I hope they weren’t coot club books.  They do not belong to the keeper, obviously we need our books returned at an event.  That is the librarians obligation, I would think.

 

Please return the boating books from our library, if not being used, Thanks,--  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Richard Green
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:02 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Ah, well…..books went to the thrift shop.  I’m clearing stuff out..  However, I have some other books as well that would be of interest.

 

Rich

 

On Sep 26, 2018, at 6:30 AM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

 

I would guess that this whole thing is a good example for us.  I would have liked to see the 100 small boat rigs too.  Love those Ideal series, maybe it will appear tomorrow??  I was there last week, how’d I miss the book part, oh well.

 

Hot on “the Scout” --  later,  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Kohnen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:52 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Rich G had a copy of Instant Boats at lunch last Thursday, trying to 

give it to the Library. Also 100 Small Boat Rigs and an Ideal Series 

book. At first I hesitated, because the fate of the Coots' Library was 

uncertain. I guess I was still addled from the knock on the head -- I 

only took the Ideal book after I changed my mind. <g> I hope you didn't 

give the books to St. Vinny's, Rich. Save them for the Library, it looks 

like it may have some more life in it yet!

 

On 9/24/2018 9:57 PM, Dirt wrote:

> ...

> My copy of Instant Boats is floating around out there somewhere. Wish I had it right now as we need to Build a couple Elegant punts this winter.

> 

> Anyone have the book or plans?

 

-- 

If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think. (Clarence 

Darrow)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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<3D1B28545CF74F078D888BB42218EF31.png>

 


Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !! Full service Idea

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

Just general info, any Oregon 
university that accepts state funds has to offer free 
Library cards to anyone with an Oregon residence, this includes OSU
And UO, they have long checkout times. 8 or 12 week I think,
 I’ve used these services without issue, but it’s been a few years.
-Jove


On Sep 27, 2018, at 8:55 PM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

Hi, Joe!!

Thanks for your thoughtful input.  I’m sure we all will include that set of options for the curatorship.  Any floating library sounds cool, but is still less secure than a building on land.  I like the idea of a boat reading room a lot though.  The last paragraph maybe expands on the idea train on this.

 

The library at OSU is interesting as it is in the middle of most active coots travel range.  If they would be able to get books to those who are willing to pay the postage for a reasonable check out time.  Would they have to have the library card, and if so , how much is the cost to each, or maybe a club single membership for XX $$ to members of record.

 

Marine heritage center is also a great idea.  Same question as above, as far as checking books out.  While I’m thinking about those severl great options – can any of the facilities make plan copies or article pages as desired from plans.  If that service was available, a COOT could ask for a copy of plans or maybe even articles just be sent for fast and direct building right swift.  Or our own COOT class dinghy, similar to ( or exactly) the ones done at the shows in Toledo to make it easy.

 

Another thought about not needing the book for months as reference.  I see that copying as an extra service to raise money to offset having the books on hand centrally.  Could save enough travel time and gas cost for builders to easy offset the plan copies cost.  The plans or book doesn’t leave the building either, so several boats could be built as a “class”, even Bolger punts, or the Tern, for new folks.  This could help new builders anywhere.  Just get info. As to member reliability, or copyright if any exists. Send cash, the facility sends the plans/ pages and ship on receipt, no credit cards needed.  

 

Not trying to be difficult, I like your thoughts, thanks again ---  Cal

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joe Novello
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:55 PM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io; Bob Larkin; Brian Getting; Brian Getting; Bud Shoemake; David West; Guy Hadden; Joe Novello; Karen Johnson; Keith Korporaal; Kelly Greer; Landon Reno; Ron Yenchik; Thomas Murphy
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

 

Hi all,

 

I spoke with the Retired Old Guy Sailing Club today.  They share the concerns mentioned about humidity and moisture and do not think the idea of storing the books in the boathouse is the best idea.  To that end three other suggestions came up. Top of the list was to approach the Marine Heritage Center in Newport and see if they would be willing, with help, to store and manage the collection. The second recommendation was the Library at the OSU Marine Science Center. I do not have connections there anymore so am not sure who to contact to explore that option.  The third option which resulted in a lot of discussion was to construct a purpose built facility similar to the Rick Johnson's Gypsy Rose  or a smaller boat house like the two we already have with some climate control equipment aboard which could house the collection and have a "reading room" aboard for visiting and perusing the collections.  

 

After all is said and done, I suspect that regardless of how the Coots go with their collection, something will be in the works for the Retired Old Guys to develop a local collection and space to read and loan out books of interest to those interested.  

 

I'm glad to be part of this discussion and look forward to harvesting ideas as they develop.

 

Joe

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:30 AM Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

Once again, I hope they weren’t coot club books.  They do not belong to the keeper, obviously we need our books returned at an event.  That is the librarians obligation, I would think.

 

Please return the boating books from our library, if not being used, Thanks,--  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Richard Green
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:02 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Ah, well…..books went to the thrift shop.  I’m clearing stuff out..  However, I have some other books as well that would be of interest.

 

Rich

 

On Sep 26, 2018, at 6:30 AM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

 

I would guess that this whole thing is a good example for us.  I would have liked to see the 100 small boat rigs too.  Love those Ideal series, maybe it will appear tomorrow??  I was there last week, how’d I miss the book part, oh well.

 

Hot on “the Scout” --  later,  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Kohnen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:52 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Rich G had a copy of Instant Boats at lunch last Thursday, trying to 

give it to the Library. Also 100 Small Boat Rigs and an Ideal Series 

book. At first I hesitated, because the fate of the Coots' Library was 

uncertain. I guess I was still addled from the knock on the head -- I 

only took the Ideal book after I changed my mind. <g> I hope you didn't 

give the books to St. Vinny's, Rich. Save them for the Library, it looks 

like it may have some more life in it yet!

 

On 9/24/2018 9:57 PM, Dirt wrote:

> ...

> My copy of Instant Boats is floating around out there somewhere. Wish I had it right now as we need to Build a couple Elegant punts this winter.

> 

> Anyone have the book or plans?

 

-- 

If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think. (Clarence 

Darrow)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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<3D1B28545CF74F078D888BB42218EF31.png>


Coast Messabout - Tahkenitch L.

Bob Larkin
 

The Coot calendar says, "Tahkenitch Lake, for October 5 to 7.  I was sorta thinking about doing it.  Anybody else planning to be there?  Bob L 


Re: Eugene Library is Out -- Tacoma starts to Move inthe Great Race !!

Electri-Cal
 

I don’t know if any of this can happen in real life, ok!!  If the book location can handle it, having a good copier for instance.  I could see copying articles or plans, maybe at a saving of travel time, and an income for the collection curator.  Then to one step further maybe a few uncopyrighted plans, say for the square simple “Brick type” concrete mixer boat many have, maybe the teal, as a step up, or a similar single sail faster type of 12 feet.  Easy build, fast sail or row types for first timers like at Toledo.  The library could sponsor a weekend basic intro verbal, visual demo and get a donation for the effort.

 

There could be a way for new builders to get plans for starter boats, then a next step up, but still un copyrighted designs.   Those plans would sell, plus shipping of course to help provide funding for the book part.  Registering each as a fleet, or class might raise a bit more, make the collection worth keeping, for the library of  choice, as a selling point.  Finding a good sponsor is the hard part.

 

Find a balanced program, make it work, ---  cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Electri-Cal
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:48 PM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Eugene Library is Out -- Tacoma starts to Move inthe Great Race !!

 

Tacoma is now finishing the NEW upstairs way bigger library.  Opening in about a week, but scheduled for operation by boat show season this year.   The plan is to let them get past initial time to open, next week -- then we will have a better and easier change and filing system in place. 

 As an initial shot, all books donated will have a sticker that the specific book was donated by the COOTS club, with a reference as to contacting the site for more information.  Might get a few more members, or further book donations of a quality worth doing. 

The lending part is not set yet, too new to figure.  Soo !!  Patience Coots, that is one place with curitorial experience,  people power and space to make it work.  Not final, but at least a talking point. 

Hang in there, it can happen for us !!!! ----  Cal    

 


Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !! Full service Idea

Electri-Cal
 

Hi, Joe!!

Thanks for your thoughtful input.  I’m sure we all will include that set of options for the curatorship.  Any floating library sounds cool, but is still less secure than a building on land.  I like the idea of a boat reading room a lot though.  The last paragraph maybe expands on the idea train on this.

 

The library at OSU is interesting as it is in the middle of most active coots travel range.  If they would be able to get books to those who are willing to pay the postage for a reasonable check out time.  Would they have to have the library card, and if so , how much is the cost to each, or maybe a club single membership for XX $$ to members of record.

 

Marine heritage center is also a great idea.  Same question as above, as far as checking books out.  While I’m thinking about those severl great options – can any of the facilities make plan copies or article pages as desired from plans.  If that service was available, a COOT could ask for a copy of plans or maybe even articles just be sent for fast and direct building right swift.  Or our own COOT class dinghy, similar to ( or exactly) the ones done at the shows in Toledo to make it easy.

 

Another thought about not needing the book for months as reference.  I see that copying as an extra service to raise money to offset having the books on hand centrally.  Could save enough travel time and gas cost for builders to easy offset the plan copies cost.  The plans or book doesn’t leave the building either, so several boats could be built as a “class”, even Bolger punts, or the Tern, for new folks.  This could help new builders anywhere.  Just get info. As to member reliability, or copyright if any exists. Send cash, the facility sends the plans/ pages and ship on receipt, no credit cards needed.  

 

Not trying to be difficult, I like your thoughts, thanks again ---  Cal

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joe Novello
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:55 PM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io; Bob Larkin; Brian Getting; Brian Getting; Bud Shoemake; David West; Guy Hadden; Joe Novello; Karen Johnson; Keith Korporaal; Kelly Greer; Landon Reno; Ron Yenchik; Thomas Murphy
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

 

Hi all,

 

I spoke with the Retired Old Guy Sailing Club today.  They share the concerns mentioned about humidity and moisture and do not think the idea of storing the books in the boathouse is the best idea.  To that end three other suggestions came up. Top of the list was to approach the Marine Heritage Center in Newport and see if they would be willing, with help, to store and manage the collection. The second recommendation was the Library at the OSU Marine Science Center. I do not have connections there anymore so am not sure who to contact to explore that option.  The third option which resulted in a lot of discussion was to construct a purpose built facility similar to the Rick Johnson's Gypsy Rose  or a smaller boat house like the two we already have with some climate control equipment aboard which could house the collection and have a "reading room" aboard for visiting and perusing the collections.  

 

After all is said and done, I suspect that regardless of how the Coots go with their collection, something will be in the works for the Retired Old Guys to develop a local collection and space to read and loan out books of interest to those interested.  

 

I'm glad to be part of this discussion and look forward to harvesting ideas as they develop.

 

Joe

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:30 AM Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

Once again, I hope they weren’t coot club books.  They do not belong to the keeper, obviously we need our books returned at an event.  That is the librarians obligation, I would think.

 

Please return the boating books from our library, if not being used, Thanks,--  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Richard Green
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:02 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Ah, well…..books went to the thrift shop.  I’m clearing stuff out..  However, I have some other books as well that would be of interest.

 

Rich

 

On Sep 26, 2018, at 6:30 AM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

 

I would guess that this whole thing is a good example for us.  I would have liked to see the 100 small boat rigs too.  Love those Ideal series, maybe it will appear tomorrow??  I was there last week, how’d I miss the book part, oh well.

 

Hot on “the Scout” --  later,  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Kohnen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:52 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Rich G had a copy of Instant Boats at lunch last Thursday, trying to 

give it to the Library. Also 100 Small Boat Rigs and an Ideal Series 

book. At first I hesitated, because the fate of the Coots' Library was 

uncertain. I guess I was still addled from the knock on the head -- I 

only took the Ideal book after I changed my mind. <g> I hope you didn't 

give the books to St. Vinny's, Rich. Save them for the Library, it looks 

like it may have some more life in it yet!

 

On 9/24/2018 9:57 PM, Dirt wrote:

> ...

> My copy of Instant Boats is floating around out there somewhere. Wish I had it right now as we need to Build a couple Elegant punts this winter.

> 

> Anyone have the book or plans?

 

-- 

If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think. (Clarence 

Darrow)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

Claire Acord
 

Well, pretty obvious that keeping the books in Coot territory is important to a good number of folks, and holding a book in the hand is always good...it sounds to be as if something may yet come from the old guy’s sailing club, perhaps getting the collection together and keeping it in a “bookmobile” for the time being might stimulate circulation whilst acquainting Coots with the individual books, anybody want to lend some space in their teardrop or other great little travel trailer?  5 boxes can’t take up that much space, it could perhaps be brought to the weekly lunch or messabouts or?  And stored in a warm place with air circulation when not on the road...
Now as to lost books, what my library did was give the person who checked out the book a certain time to find it, at the end of that time period if the book was not found, the person who lost the book replaced it with a similar copy from Amazon or Alibris, or some such.  It does not sound to me as if there are many terrifically valuable items in the collection, so that might be satisfactory.  It was amazing how a stated time limited aided memory! <g>
Cheers
Claire


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 3:28 PM Jove Lachman-Curl <jovelc87@...> wrote:
I think distributed library doesn't work because there is simply no substitute for holding books in your hands before you decide if you want to read them.
A location we can visit would work I believe.
And what is the email for the librarian? most of us don't use outlook anymore and there is only an outlook link on the library page. I think this is a deterrent for people in the google age.
-Jove

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:56 AM Hank <happyhank07@...> wrote:
Maybe a better question is why have a Coots library if no one wants to read the books?  I have not tried to contact the librarian to order a book so do not know if it works or not.    No one has ever contacted me about getting one of the books I am holding so have to wonder how important they are.  

As far as a distributed system goes, most any book is available from the inter library loan system for only a couple bucks.  If reading a book is not worth that much, it can not be very important.

Hank

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 6:47 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for."*
Books too. If one gets too caught up in safety and security then nobody
will ever be able to read the books. <g>

How can the Coots' Library remain dispersed, but work? We haven't ever
figured that out.

* https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/09/safe-harbor/

On 9/26/2018 10:07 AM, Myles T wrote:
> ...
> But beyond all that, there is a very important thing to consider as part
> of the broad category of “security”.  So far folks have mainly just
> touched on security in terms of whether the resource is protected from
> theft or donation.  Humidity was also mentioned and I also mentioned my
> concern about the OMM’s maritime collection being housed in a downtown
> underground bank vault that could flood.
>
> But here’s another security concern to take very seriously: fire. 
> Virtually any place can burn down I suppose and formal libraries are not
> immune---the recent fire at the Brazilian national library is just one
> example.  Dock fires are not uncommon, and I would guess the risk goes
> up with permanently moored boats and a workshop at the docks.  Homes can
> burn (my cousin lost his in Redding this summer) also.  Bottom line is
> that putting all your nuts (or books) in one basket (bookcase) at one
> location carries a risk that needs to be appreciated.  I hear the agony
> in reading about single items having disappeared.  Imagine if the entire
> collection burned, molded or sank to the bottom of the river.
>
> Which brings me again to the benefit of keeping this collection
> dispersed.  Yes, items and even an entire box could disappear or get
> donated to St. Vinnies---but that pales in severity compared to losing
> the entire collection in one event.
> ...

--
John (jkohnen@...)
Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
(Isaac Asimov)




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Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

I think distributed library doesn't work because there is simply no substitute for holding books in your hands before you decide if you want to read them.
A location we can visit would work I believe.
And what is the email for the librarian? most of us don't use outlook anymore and there is only an outlook link on the library page. I think this is a deterrent for people in the google age.
-Jove

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 8:56 AM Hank <happyhank07@...> wrote:
Maybe a better question is why have a Coots library if no one wants to read the books?  I have not tried to contact the librarian to order a book so do not know if it works or not.    No one has ever contacted me about getting one of the books I am holding so have to wonder how important they are.  

As far as a distributed system goes, most any book is available from the inter library loan system for only a couple bucks.  If reading a book is not worth that much, it can not be very important.

Hank

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 6:47 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for."*
Books too. If one gets too caught up in safety and security then nobody
will ever be able to read the books. <g>

How can the Coots' Library remain dispersed, but work? We haven't ever
figured that out.

* https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/09/safe-harbor/

On 9/26/2018 10:07 AM, Myles T wrote:
> ...
> But beyond all that, there is a very important thing to consider as part
> of the broad category of “security”.  So far folks have mainly just
> touched on security in terms of whether the resource is protected from
> theft or donation.  Humidity was also mentioned and I also mentioned my
> concern about the OMM’s maritime collection being housed in a downtown
> underground bank vault that could flood.
>
> But here’s another security concern to take very seriously: fire. 
> Virtually any place can burn down I suppose and formal libraries are not
> immune---the recent fire at the Brazilian national library is just one
> example.  Dock fires are not uncommon, and I would guess the risk goes
> up with permanently moored boats and a workshop at the docks.  Homes can
> burn (my cousin lost his in Redding this summer) also.  Bottom line is
> that putting all your nuts (or books) in one basket (bookcase) at one
> location carries a risk that needs to be appreciated.  I hear the agony
> in reading about single items having disappeared.  Imagine if the entire
> collection burned, molded or sank to the bottom of the river.
>
> Which brings me again to the benefit of keeping this collection
> dispersed.  Yes, items and even an entire box could disappear or get
> donated to St. Vinnies---but that pales in severity compared to losing
> the entire collection in one event.
> ...

--
John (jkohnen@...)
Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
(Isaac Asimov)





Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

Hank
 

Maybe a better question is why have a Coots library if no one wants to read the books?  I have not tried to contact the librarian to order a book so do not know if it works or not.    No one has ever contacted me about getting one of the books I am holding so have to wonder how important they are.  

As far as a distributed system goes, most any book is available from the inter library loan system for only a couple bucks.  If reading a book is not worth that much, it can not be very important.

Hank

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 6:47 PM John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for."*
Books too. If one gets too caught up in safety and security then nobody
will ever be able to read the books. <g>

How can the Coots' Library remain dispersed, but work? We haven't ever
figured that out.

* https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/09/safe-harbor/

On 9/26/2018 10:07 AM, Myles T wrote:
> ...
> But beyond all that, there is a very important thing to consider as part
> of the broad category of “security”.  So far folks have mainly just
> touched on security in terms of whether the resource is protected from
> theft or donation.  Humidity was also mentioned and I also mentioned my
> concern about the OMM’s maritime collection being housed in a downtown
> underground bank vault that could flood.
>
> But here’s another security concern to take very seriously: fire. 
> Virtually any place can burn down I suppose and formal libraries are not
> immune---the recent fire at the Brazilian national library is just one
> example.  Dock fires are not uncommon, and I would guess the risk goes
> up with permanently moored boats and a workshop at the docks.  Homes can
> burn (my cousin lost his in Redding this summer) also.  Bottom line is
> that putting all your nuts (or books) in one basket (bookcase) at one
> location carries a risk that needs to be appreciated.  I hear the agony
> in reading about single items having disappeared.  Imagine if the entire
> collection burned, molded or sank to the bottom of the river.
>
> Which brings me again to the benefit of keeping this collection
> dispersed.  Yes, items and even an entire box could disappear or get
> donated to St. Vinnies---but that pales in severity compared to losing
> the entire collection in one event.
> ...

--
John (jkohnen@...)
Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
(Isaac Asimov)





Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

Jove Lachman-Curl
 

I’m really a bystander here, but I would enjoy seeing these books, and that’s the whole point of a library right?

Some spot in Toledo still rings a good bell for me. There are willing interested volunteers and the town attracts boating folks anyway.
If mold is a high concern a good cabinet as discussed earlier, with some desiccant or a couple light bulbs to keep it a little warm should be plenty. Ziplock bags for the valuable ones? Or even water tight Tupperware’s.
It’s not rocket science, but I love the idea of heading to Toledo some rainy Sunday and reading/borrowing a good boat book. And explore that area by kayak perhaps.

An online google-sheet is the best way I know of for keeping a public status. For anyone who’s not used this, it’s just a spreadsheet in the cloud that we can all access at once and put in status of various books etc. it would also serve as a public list of titles.
We use this for the rowing club I attend and it works very well for practice sign ups and booking out boats for 80 members with multiple practices a week.
-Jove in Eugene.


On Sep 26, 2018, at 7:19 PM, elaineginader <elaineginader@...> wrote:

So how many books are we talking about? It can't be that many of it's a box the same size as the one Mark has. I could possibly take them and create a spread sheet with the names. I hate to see them leave the group.



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

-------- Original message --------
From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
Date: 9/26/18 6:47 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for."*
Books too. If one gets too caught up in safety and security then nobody
will ever be able to read the books. <g>

How can the Coots' Library remain dispersed, but work? We haven't ever
figured that out.

* https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/09/safe-harbor/

On 9/26/2018 10:07 AM, Myles T wrote:
> ...
> But beyond all that, there is a very important thing to consider as part
> of the broad category of “security”.  So far folks have mainly just
> touched on security in terms of whether the resource is protected from
> theft or donation.  Humidity was also mentioned and I also mentioned my
> concern about the OMM’s maritime collection being housed in a downtown
> underground bank vault that could flood.
>
> But here’s another security concern to take very seriously: fire. 
> Virtually any place can burn down I suppose and formal libraries are not
> immune---the recent fire at the Brazilian national library is just one
> example.  Dock fires are not uncommon, and I would guess the risk goes
> up with permanently moored boats and a workshop at the docks.  Homes can
> burn (my cousin lost his in Redding this summer) also.  Bottom line is
> that putting all your nuts (or books) in one basket (bookcase) at one
> location carries a risk that needs to be appreciated.  I hear the agony
> in reading about single items having disappeared.  Imagine if the entire
> collection burned, molded or sank to the bottom of the river.
>
> Which brings me again to the benefit of keeping this collection
> dispersed.  Yes, items and even an entire box could disappear or get
> donated to St. Vinnies---but that pales in severity compared to losing
> the entire collection in one event.
> ...

--
John (jkohnen@...)
Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
(Isaac Asimov)





Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

elaineginader
 

So how many books are we talking about? It can't be that many of it's a box the same size as the one Mark has. I could possibly take them and create a spread sheet with the names. I hate to see them leave the group.



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

-------- Original message --------
From: John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>
Date: 9/26/18 6:47 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for."*
Books too. If one gets too caught up in safety and security then nobody
will ever be able to read the books. <g>

How can the Coots' Library remain dispersed, but work? We haven't ever
figured that out.

* https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/09/safe-harbor/

On 9/26/2018 10:07 AM, Myles T wrote:
> ...
> But beyond all that, there is a very important thing to consider as part
> of the broad category of “security”.  So far folks have mainly just
> touched on security in terms of whether the resource is protected from
> theft or donation.  Humidity was also mentioned and I also mentioned my
> concern about the OMM’s maritime collection being housed in a downtown
> underground bank vault that could flood.
>
> But here’s another security concern to take very seriously: fire. 
> Virtually any place can burn down I suppose and formal libraries are not
> immune---the recent fire at the Brazilian national library is just one
> example.  Dock fires are not uncommon, and I would guess the risk goes
> up with permanently moored boats and a workshop at the docks.  Homes can
> burn (my cousin lost his in Redding this summer) also.  Bottom line is
> that putting all your nuts (or books) in one basket (bookcase) at one
> location carries a risk that needs to be appreciated.  I hear the agony
> in reading about single items having disappeared.  Imagine if the entire
> collection burned, molded or sank to the bottom of the river.
>
> Which brings me again to the benefit of keeping this collection
> dispersed.  Yes, items and even an entire box could disappear or get
> donated to St. Vinnies---but that pales in severity compared to losing
> the entire collection in one event.
> ...

--
John (jkohnen@...)
Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right.
(Isaac Asimov)





Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

 

I'm disappointed that the ROGSC decided not to take on hosting the Coots' Library. That seemed like the last chance to keep it going. I'm doubtful that the OSU science center or the Lincoln County Historical Society (that's the Maritime Heritage Center, right?) would want to partner with the Coots to handle the library. The Coots don't have any money to build a barge or boathouse.

So, we'll have to choose someplace to give the collection to. What if we GAVE the Library to the ROGSC to seed their own library, with no strings attached, except that Coots would have borrowing privileges like anyone else? I'd like that better than giving the books to a distant library.

As far as giving the books to a distant library I still favor the McCurdy Library at the NW Maritime Center in Port Townsend. Coots have more of a connection to Port Townsend than to anyplace in Secoma. The Maritime Center is a modern building and about as safe and secure as you'll find for storing books.

On 9/26/2018 3:55 PM, Toledo Joe wrote:
Hi all,
I spoke with the Retired Old Guy Sailing Club today.  They share the concerns mentioned about humidity and moisture and do not think the idea of storing the books in the boathouse is the best idea.  To that end three other suggestions came up. Top of the list was to approach the Marine Heritage Center in Newport and see if they would be willing, with help, to store and manage the collection. The second recommendation was the Library at the OSU Marine Science Center. I do not have connections there anymore so am not sure who to contact to explore that option.  The third option which resulted in a lot of discussion was to construct a purpose built facility similar to the Rick Johnson's Gypsy Rose  or a smaller boat house like the two we already have with some climate control equipment aboard which could house the collection and have a "reading room" aboard for visiting and perusing the collections.
After all is said and done, I suspect that regardless of how the Coots go with their collection, something will be in the works for the Retired Old Guys to develop a local collection and space to read and loan out books of interest to those interested.
I'm glad to be part of this discussion and look forward to harvesting ideas as they develop.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
It is impossible to enjoy idling thoroughly unless one has plenty of work to do. (Jerome K. Jerome)


Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

Case Turner
 

It would be nice if the collection stayed in Oregon. I can’t recall the last time I traveled out of state to check out a book...

On Sep 26, 2018, at 6:47 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@boat-links.com> wrote:

"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for."* Books too. If one gets too caught up in safety and security then nobody will ever be able to read the books. <g>

How can the Coots' Library remain dispersed, but work? We haven't ever figured that out.

* https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/09/safe-harbor/

On 9/26/2018 10:07 AM, Myles T wrote:
...
But beyond all that, there is a very important thing to consider as part of the broad category of “security”. So far folks have mainly just touched on security in terms of whether the resource is protected from theft or donation. Humidity was also mentioned and I also mentioned my concern about the OMM’s maritime collection being housed in a downtown underground bank vault that could flood.
But here’s another security concern to take very seriously: fire. Virtually any place can burn down I suppose and formal libraries are not immune---the recent fire at the Brazilian national library is just one example. Dock fires are not uncommon, and I would guess the risk goes up with permanently moored boats and a workshop at the docks. Homes can burn (my cousin lost his in Redding this summer) also. Bottom line is that putting all your nuts (or books) in one basket (bookcase) at one location carries a risk that needs to be appreciated. I hear the agony in reading about single items having disappeared. Imagine if the entire collection burned, molded or sank to the bottom of the river.
Which brings me again to the benefit of keeping this collection dispersed. Yes, items and even an entire box could disappear or get donated to St. Vinnies---but that pales in severity compared to losing the entire collection in one event.
...
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right. (Isaac Asimov)



--
Dirt


Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

 

"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for."* Books too. If one gets too caught up in safety and security then nobody will ever be able to read the books. <g>

How can the Coots' Library remain dispersed, but work? We haven't ever figured that out.

* https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/12/09/safe-harbor/

On 9/26/2018 10:07 AM, Myles T wrote:
...
But beyond all that, there is a very important thing to consider as part of the broad category of “security”.  So far folks have mainly just touched on security in terms of whether the resource is protected from theft or donation.  Humidity was also mentioned and I also mentioned my concern about the OMM’s maritime collection being housed in a downtown underground bank vault that could flood.
But here’s another security concern to take very seriously: fire. Virtually any place can burn down I suppose and formal libraries are not immune---the recent fire at the Brazilian national library is just one example.  Dock fires are not uncommon, and I would guess the risk goes up with permanently moored boats and a workshop at the docks.  Homes can burn (my cousin lost his in Redding this summer) also.  Bottom line is that putting all your nuts (or books) in one basket (bookcase) at one location carries a risk that needs to be appreciated.  I hear the agony in reading about single items having disappeared.  Imagine if the entire collection burned, molded or sank to the bottom of the river.
Which brings me again to the benefit of keeping this collection dispersed.  Yes, items and even an entire box could disappear or get donated to St. Vinnies---but that pales in severity compared to losing the entire collection in one event.
...
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right. (Isaac Asimov)


Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

Joe Novello
 

Hi all,

I spoke with the Retired Old Guy Sailing Club today.  They share the concerns mentioned about humidity and moisture and do not think the idea of storing the books in the boathouse is the best idea.  To that end three other suggestions came up. Top of the list was to approach the Marine Heritage Center in Newport and see if they would be willing, with help, to store and manage the collection. The second recommendation was the Library at the OSU Marine Science Center. I do not have connections there anymore so am not sure who to contact to explore that option.  The third option which resulted in a lot of discussion was to construct a purpose built facility similar to the Rick Johnson's Gypsy Rose  or a smaller boat house like the two we already have with some climate control equipment aboard which could house the collection and have a "reading room" aboard for visiting and perusing the collections.  

After all is said and done, I suspect that regardless of how the Coots go with their collection, something will be in the works for the Retired Old Guys to develop a local collection and space to read and loan out books of interest to those interested.  

I'm glad to be part of this discussion and look forward to harvesting ideas as they develop.

Joe




  



On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:30 AM Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

Once again, I hope they weren’t coot club books.  They do not belong to the keeper, obviously we need our books returned at an event.  That is the librarians obligation, I would think.

 

Please return the boating books from our library, if not being used, Thanks,--  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Richard Green
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:02 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Ah, well…..books went to the thrift shop.  I’m clearing stuff out..  However, I have some other books as well that would be of interest.

 

Rich

 

On Sep 26, 2018, at 6:30 AM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

 

I would guess that this whole thing is a good example for us.  I would have liked to see the 100 small boat rigs too.  Love those Ideal series, maybe it will appear tomorrow??  I was there last week, how’d I miss the book part, oh well.

 

Hot on “the Scout” --  later,  Cal

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Kohnen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:52 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!

 

Rich G had a copy of Instant Boats at lunch last Thursday, trying to 

give it to the Library. Also 100 Small Boat Rigs and an Ideal Series 

book. At first I hesitated, because the fate of the Coots' Library was 

uncertain. I guess I was still addled from the knock on the head -- I 

only took the Ideal book after I changed my mind. <g> I hope you didn't 

give the books to St. Vinny's, Rich. Save them for the Library, it looks 

like it may have some more life in it yet!

 

On 9/24/2018 9:57 PM, Dirt wrote:

> ...

> My copy of Instant Boats is floating around out there somewhere. Wish I had it right now as we need to Build a couple Elegant punts this winter.

> 

> Anyone have the book or plans?

 

-- 

If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think. (Clarence 

Darrow)

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Eugene Library is Out -- Tacoma starts to Move in the Great Race !!

Electri-Cal
 

Tacoma is now finishing the NEW upstairs way bigger library.  Opening in about a week, but scheduled for operation by boat show season this year.   The plan is to let them get past initial time to open, next week -- then we will have a better and easier change and filing system in place. 

 As an initial shot, all books donated will have a sticker that the specific book was donated by the COOTS club, with a reference as to contacting the site for more information.  Might get a few more members, or further book donations of a quality worth doing. 

The lending part is not set yet, too new to figure.  Soo !!  Patience Coots, that is one place with curitorial experience,  people power and space to make it work.  Not final, but at least a talking point. 

Hang in there, it can happen for us !!!! ----  Cal    


Eugene Library isOut

Electri-Cal
 

Consolidating for new "Sports Library" probably funded by Nike -- sooo!! not a good home there.  Multnomah looking better all the time, but Tacoma or maybe Seattle -- think i'll give them a call .    Byeee,  cal

Next  Idea ???  ___ Still Looking ---  cal


Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

Richard Green
 

No worries, Cal.  Didn’t think a thing about it.  

Rich


On Sep 26, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:

Hey, Rich !!  john K. just mailed me the “other side of the story” he was there, I wasn’t – So I sincerely apologize for the misunderstanding on actual book ownership.  A” box of books” is not what I was seeing in print.  A box of coot library books is not what was discussed in your case.  I’m sorry, as that was an untrue situation.  Will look forward to any other donations from any source, we will get this all sorted ASAP.
 
Thanks for understanding,   Cal 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Richard Green
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:53 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!
 
No, not Coot books. 
 
Rich
 
On Sep 26, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:
 
Once again, I hope they weren’t coot club books.  They do not belong to the keeper, obviously we need our books returned at an event.  That is the librarians obligation, I would think. 
 
Please return the boating books from our library, if not being used, Thanks,--  Cal 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Richard Green
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 9:02 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!
 
Ah, well…..books went to the thrift shop.  I’m clearing stuff out..  However, I have some other books as well that would be of interest.
 
Rich
 
On Sep 26, 2018, at 6:30 AM, Electri-Cal <calboats@...> wrote:
 
I would guess that this whole thing is a good example for us.  I would have liked to see the 100 small boat rigs too.  Love those Ideal series, maybe it will appear tomorrow??  I was there last week, how’d I miss the book part, oh well.
 
Hot on “the Scout” --  later,  Cal
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: John Kohnen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:52 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] Library Offer - will check out !!
 
Rich G had a copy of Instant Boats at lunch last Thursday, trying to 
give it to the Library. Also 100 Small Boat Rigs and an Ideal Series 
book. At first I hesitated, because the fate of the Coots' Library was 
uncertain. I guess I was still addled from the knock on the head -- I 
only took the Ideal book after I changed my mind. <g> I hope you didn't 
give the books to St. Vinny's, Rich. Save them for the Library, it looks 
like it may have some more life in it yet!
 
On 9/24/2018 9:57 PM, Dirt wrote:
> ...
> My copy of Instant Boats is floating around out there somewhere. Wish I had it right now as we need to Build a couple Elegant punts this winter.
> 
> Anyone have the book or plans?
 
-- 
If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think. (Clarence 
Darrow)
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

Electri-Cal
 

Thanks Myles, all good data, nothing is sacred – we have precious few books from far back in time.  All we can do is prepare as possible, and the on linepart can be a blessing or curse depending on what the desired result should be.  Easy to locate books on all subjects marine, with ideas, designs, and opinions from earlier time as a history of a most important part of our world.

 

If you don’t know where you have dropped anchor, how can you chart the future ?? ---cal

 

Best Wishes,   cal

 

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From: Myles Twete
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 10:07 AM
To: oregoncoots@groups.io
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] More on any Library Offer - DO check out !!

 

Interesting, though tedious, discussion about what to do with the written resources collectively called the Coot Library.  I have no skin in the game as I really don’t attend more than 1 or 2 Coot events each year and it never occurred to me to donate to or borrow from this “library”.  As I and others have mentioned, no one wants to donate to a collection that is distant or inaccessible.

 

But beyond all that, there is a very important thing to consider as part of the broad category of “security”.  So far folks have mainly just touched on security in terms of whether the resource is protected from theft or donation.  Humidity was also mentioned and I also mentioned my concern about the OMM’s maritime collection being housed in a downtown underground bank vault that could flood.

 

But here’s another security concern to take very seriously: fire.  Virtually any place can burn down I suppose and formal libraries are not immune---the recent fire at the Brazilian national library is just one example.  Dock fires are not uncommon, and I would guess the risk goes up with permanently moored boats and a workshop at the docks.  Homes can burn (my cousin lost his in Redding this summer) also.  Bottom line is that putting all your nuts (or books) in one basket (bookcase) at one location carries a risk that needs to be appreciated.  I hear the agony in reading about single items having disappeared.  Imagine if the entire collection burned, molded or sank to the bottom of the river.

 

Which brings me again to the benefit of keeping this collection dispersed.  Yes, items and even an entire box could disappear or get donated to St. Vinnies---but that pales in severity compared to losing the entire collection in one event.

 

This risk should be a significant part of your safety considerations.

 

IMO… J

 

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