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Re: TSCA "boat advice"

John Weiss
 

Your best bet is to ask on our Facebook page at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/TSCA.group/

I've also forwarded this to our various Yahoo group forums, and someone
may respond via one of them.

On 3/3/2018 15:49, Jonno Woutat wrote:
From: Jonno Woutat <woutatviolins@yahoo.com>
Subject: boat advice

Message Body:
I am looking for advice on a boat to build. I want to build a sailing dingy that would be fun for one person to sail and yet could handle 800 Lb. ( 3 guys and gear for a week long, land camping, cruising trip.) two rowing stations although i would like it to be a better sailboat than row boat and it could be either a car top or trailer boat. I would be using this boat on fresh water lakes
I have been looking at the Fred Dion's Swampscott dory from John Gardner's "The Dory Book" but have ready that dorys can be hard to control if you don't have enough weight in the boat.
any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks. Jonno woutat

This e-mail was sent from a contact form on TSCA (https://tsca.net)


Re: [MessaboutW] Sea-weed Jr...Maiden Launch

 

I'll be there, Dick. I wouldn't miss Sea-weed, Jr's launch for the world. Here's what the Weatherman is promising for tomorrow:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8g5xw4m

or

https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-123.05977019224058&;lat=44.59113090598629

This is what Sea-weed, Jr. looked like last time I saw her:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/albums/72157688445851032

On 3/2/2018 12:59 PM, Dick wrote:
"Sea-weed Jr." is finished and ready for it's "Maiden Launching".
Will happen on...... if it floats.
Monday,   March 5th
Freeway Lakes, Albany, Or.
Three Lake Rd.
 At ...1:00 p.m.
https://goo.gl/maps/HYU584Hbxm62
Bring  your boatand a lunchif you can jo in this gathering.
Hope to see you there.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
The louder he talks of honour, the faster we count our spoons. (Ralph Waldo Emerson)


Re: Sea-weed Jr...Maiden Launch

Richard(Dick)
 

Thank Cal.

Sure to have it at the shows so you can see it.

Dick


Re: Dick's New Tugboat

Richard(Dick)
 

It's done..

Posted an invite for  Maiden Launching on Monday, March 5th, 1:00

Dick


BIG Electric Boat

 

Finland's first electric ferry:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9aznt5p

Well, not exactly the FIRST, but the first built from the keel up as an electric. The real first electric ferry in Finland is this old-timer:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7up6qaf

Interesting stuff. Ferries are a real good place for electric propulsion, since they operate between the same docking facilities all the time, which can be set up for charging.

I read about another Scandinavian electric ferry a while back that, instead of stopping and charging an onboard battery, swapped its battery for a charged one while cars while it was being unloaded and loaded at one of its terminals. One battery charged onshore while the other was pushing the ferry. I don't recall if that ferry is in operation, or still on the drawing board...

--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
It is requisite for the relaxation of the mind that we make use, from time to time, of playful deeds and jokes. (St. Thomas Aquinas)


Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

Andy Rusten
 

aw, I love the sound of those Perkins working, Dans was rattly compared to this one. 


Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

Andy Rusten
 


Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

Andy Rusten
 

Here you are, PM me if you want a link to more photos


Re: Sea-weed Jr...Maiden Launch

Electri-Cal
 

Now, that's one I would like to see, congrats. Dick I'm sure it will be a winner.  I will have to look at photos from John,  till I get some more water time.  looking towards a great summer with you and all the coots.  Boat show seasons a coming, whoo Hoo !!!

Best wishes,  Cal


Battery pack thoughts wanted

Electri-Cal
 

Battery packs, humm!!   On Surprise I now have two 12 v , Bi--mart batteries for 24 volts.  There are two packs of batteries which can be joined for longer total run time but without reserve.  I could also alternate packs at say a half hour interval.  Does switching do better than a both packs together deal??  They are lead acid marine deep cycle series 27, for about 5.7 hours at 15 amps listed as per battery @12 volts as a cruise speed draw.  The chart does not show any reserve capacity just a draw number, darn.


I am wondering, but Not about high buck lithiums, around 4K to re do, and not a auto parts store item if one goes bad on a trip to the outback.  I like the replace ability factor as much as run time, a trade off.  That is why Thunderers new owner got those big 29s, basically at no extra charge, way harder to get.  Brand new ones are Bi Mart 27 series, exchangable any time.  Carry an extra in the truck for other needs anyway.


Thoughts on more run time with common trolling batteries is more the point -- as hull speed is adequate for most uses, lake speeds.  I am considering how to best increase that run time, maybe with another pack, or a solar cell recharger.  I do have an area behind the seats for a panel of cells, say 4 foot square, but would 16 sq. ft. be worth anything for extending range, at the 15 amps draw figure??  Maybe just the extra sun boost with new types of bettr cells would work??  Takes up room, could fold away for more seats.   Maybe a smaller but heavy third twin pack ??   Maybe re do with 6 volt types, haven't checked as yet, but 8 volt might be fairly common for golf carts.


This is just an exercise for those who do that sort of thing, purely speculative and no axes to grind either way.  But given the lead acid type -- I do wonder what would give me the best package at say 60 to 75 % of battery life  in order to have a good run time at lake cruising speeds, the 5 to 6 mph range figuring about hull speed for a light, flat, narrow, 17 footer.  i wouldn't be surprised to not have any takers on this.  I just thought it would be interesting to compare directly the very next outing, everything fresh to go.  Add another passenger, to  also compare that.  Then change props to high output, and get a knot, vs amp draw figure.  That might suggest the next change to get to a solid plane with adequate run time, like trying for a safe 10 to 12 hours even if weather kicks the lake up a bit.  Not sure if all this is even doable, maybe just run it as is and be happy.  Then change to Kipawa props and check that out, much simpler.  Opinions welcome, eh ???


Just thinking outside the box a bit, and curious eh ??  -------   Cal 


   


Sea-weed Jr...Maiden Launch

Richard(Dick)
 

"Sea-weed Jr." is finished and ready for it's "Maiden Launching".

Will happen on...... if it floats.

Monday,   March 5th

Freeway Lakes, Albany, Or.

Three Lake Rd.

 At ...1:00 p.m.

https://goo.gl/maps/HYU584Hbxm62


Bring  your boat and a lunch if you can join this gathering.

Hope to see you there.


Dick Mitsch


Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

Richard Green
 

Not a face booker here.  Got any photos on hand?


Rich


On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:26 PM, 'Dan' Toolman84@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:



For those on Facebook, here's some pics of Titan and other whaleboats.
 
For those that don't know me, I used to have my own whaleboat "Ajax". I had her moored in Oregon City for a few years and took her all over the Willamette and Columbia rivers. They make great cruisers, displacement hull so they get by with little power and good fuel economy. Here's a short video of me pulling up to Andy's floating home in Scapoose few years ago https://www.facebook.com/andy.rusten/videos/10150341798916667/?query=ajax
 
I'll be happy to help where I can to whoever makes Titan there own.
 
JetMan<<<
a.k.a. Dan
 

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "w7atr.1@... [MessaboutW]" <MessaboutW@...>
To: <MessaboutW@...>
Subject: Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home
Date: 02 Mar 2018 00:16:55 +0000


 

Its a 1968 Navy Motor Whale boat. 26'

 


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Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

Dan W
 


Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

Andy Rusten
 

Its a 1968 Navy Motor Whale boat. 26'


Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

Andy Rusten
 

Yes, it's on a trailer and it's back in Marion Oregon. I have all her accessories and spare parts in dry storage.


Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

 

Quiet would sure be nice! I liked your whaleboat except for the racket from that Perkins diesel right in the middle of everything. :o( Maybe an old four-cylinder gas engine from a discarded I/O motorboat could be adapted to fit the gearbox in Andy's whaleboat. With a good exhaust system that might not be too unpleasant...

On 2/26/2018 12:10 PM, Jetman Dan wrote:
As much as I'd love to have another whaleboat, best I pass on it. Think it could be a sweet cruising boat with diesel pulled and motor well built in front of rudder. Hang one of my 50hp Bearcat's in there for much quieter motoring.
Has to be another Coot here who can take her on, and give me rides ;-)
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
His heart was bound in oak and triple brass who first committed a fragile bark to the raging sea... (Horace)


Thanks John K. Great Pix

Electri-Cal
 

Every time I see Johns photos of Surprise, it makes me very happy that a good record of this one is kept.  I wish we had done that on my lapstrake sail boat and others, at some point.  Couldn't have done this nearly as well myself, that's for sure.  Thanks again, I really appreciate your making that documentary.


Later, on the water -----   Cal


Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

Richard Green
 

Is it on a trailer?

Rich


On Feb 26, 2018, at 11:44 AM, John Kohnen jkohnen@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:

Andy has a 26' fiberglass US Navy whaleboat. Last time I saw it, it was 
out by Scappoose. I hope someone takes on his project boat, but be aware 
that it's a Lot of boat...

On 2/25/2018 3:01 PM, michael t wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Perhaps I missed an email. What are you wanting to be picked up?
> 

-- 
John (jkohnen@...)
You have not converted a man because you have silenced him. (John Morley)



Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

Dan W
 


Re: [MessaboutW] Whaleboat Needs New Home

 

You could always pick up the torch, as it were, Dan. ;o)

On 2/25/2018 4:30 PM, Jetman Dan wrote:
Nooooo, don't give up on her
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
It has always been my private conviction that any man who pits his intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming. (John Steinbeck)

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