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Why We Live in the Northwest

 

Brrr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/18/us/great-lakes-ships.html

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John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
To shorten winter, borrow some money due in spring. (W. J. Vogel)


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Southern Oregon Coots

John Weiss
 

On 1/21/2018 19:50, 'Dan Rogers' danashore@conceptcable.com wrote:

In an analogous assault upon the local idiom, the navy once hired an air
force reserve officer to dismantle Naval Discourse. �The result was a
little paperback tome entitled �Just Plan English.�� With the advent of
JPE, we were proscribed from such phrases as �subsequent to the
initial,� and old standards such as �With due consideration to the
aforementioned��� The standard navy one-sentence paragraph morphed to a
one size fits all.� A sad passing.
OTOH, I believe the DicNavAb is still in print...


Re: [MessaboutW] Electric Hookup Question

Electri-Cal
 

The factory says definitely not, do not connect any more than one battery to a single lead.  it will destroy the sensing electronics.  Not too happy about the large size batteries I have now.  Advised to go to the (commercial size and big bucks )  fishing boat sized ones for those batteries.

Oh, well maybe I will just continue as I re-planned, two jacks is not a big deal overall.

Later,   Cal


Re: [MessaboutW] Electric Hookup Question

Electri-Cal
 

Yep, John!  The "inside the box" says clearly, use on one battery only, shite !!  of course that has 3 leads, so one pair ( 2 ) of leads plug into pack A .  The left over one (1) goes to the much smaller and what I call the Balance battery, so the trim is correct, that will need a longer lead to adjust battery trim wherever.

So, just a matter of changing the two main plugs from pack A to pack B after filling back up.  Not exactly a problem, since one pack gets so much time using those big batteries.  Once both A and B packs are topped off I just clip on the long term trickle chargers till next outing.  Each trip I make sure I start with the opposite pack so both get even use and recharge cycles.  Trolling 12 volt other is just left as a separate plug, different color etc., as that  one plug is designated as "primary plug" closest to the power cord, 

I was wondering if the RV twin battery charging splitter would do that job??  If I got one for a cars two battery set up, it would seem to do the job of charging - one at a time -  of a 2 battery bank ??  Think I will do a bit of looking around on that right now.

later,   Cal


Re: Southern Oregon Coots

Dan
 

I’m thinking that for the want of an apostrophe, a regularly observed spectrographic phenomenon could quickly become something more akin to the result of a butcher employing his male offspring to operate the carcass hoist.  Hence, ”The sun’s rays meet,” transmogrifies to “the sons raise meat.”  Our oral tradition is imperiled!

 

In an analogous assault upon the local idiom, the navy once hired an air force reserve officer to dismantle Naval Discourse.  The result was a little paperback tome entitled “Just Plan English.”  With the advent of JPE, we were proscribed from such phrases as “subsequent to the initial,” and old standards such as “With due consideration to the aforementioned…”  The standard navy one-sentence paragraph morphed to a one size fits all.  A sad passing.

 

Dan


Re: [MessaboutW] Southern Oregon Coots

 

Year's ago the US Board on Geographic Names decided to remove all apostrophes from place names, so "Grant's Pass" became "Grants Pass." I can understand; apostrophe's clutter up maps, and their was a possibility of confusion about whether a place was named possessively for one guy named Grant, for example, and deserved an apostrophe, or was named non-possessively for several Grant brothers, or a plethora of land grants. <g>

More recently They decided that all possessive names, even purged of their apostrophes, were in appropriate. So Skinner's Butte (officially "Skinners Butte") in Eugene is now "Skinner Butte." I think this change is an unfortunate step away from the history of our places. Skinner's Butte was named that (and is still called that by older Eugeneans) because Eugene Skinner lived on the west flank of the hill. The mountain south of Eugene, Spencer Butte, was so named in honor of Secretary of War John C. Spencer, who never got within a thousand miles of the peak. Doing away with possessives removes such distinctions and makes our maps much less interesting. <harrumph>

Grants Pass is lucky that their name is so well established that it'd be a too much of a hassle to change it to "Grant Pass." Grants Pass was apparently named for US Grant after the battle of Vicksburg, but he actually visited the area before he was a General and then President. He supposedly slept at the Wolf Creek Inn (still in operation) while surveying southern Oregon.

https://geonames.usgs.gov/

http://www.ohs.org/about-us/affiliates-and-partners/oregon-geographic-names-board/

On 1/20/2018 7:13 AM, Richard Green chaos5@viclink.com [MessaboutW] wrote:
Well, well….I’ve always wondered why it isn’t Grant’s Pass.  The lack of a possessive, eh?
Rich

On Jan 20, 2018, at 6:51 AM, Kurt Herzog kpherzog@outlook.com <mailto:kpherzog@outlook.com> [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:


Hi all.. there actually are some coots in southern Oregon.. I am in Grants Pass.. have built a couple of stitch-&-glue boats and one plywood on frame Hartley 14.  Dont know how much good advice I may have, but I can certainly BS with the best of 'em.

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Kurt Herzog



Grants Pass, Oregon



--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
One of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the great struggle for independence. (Charles A. Beard)


Re: [MessaboutW] Southern Oregon Coots

Richard Green
 

Well, well….I’ve always wondered why it isn’t Grant’s Pass.  The lack of a possessive, eh?

Rich



On Jan 20, 2018, at 6:51 AM, Kurt Herzog kpherzog@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:


Hi all.. there actually are some coots in southern Oregon.. I am in Grants Pass.. have built a couple of stitch-&-glue boats and one plywood on frame Hartley 14.  Dont know how much good advice I may have, but I can certainly BS with the best of 'em.

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Kurt Herzog



Grants Pass, Oregon






Re: Southern Oregon Coots

Kurt Herzog
 


Hi all.. there actually are some coots in southern Oregon.. I am in Grants Pass.. have built a couple of stitch-&-glue boats and one plywood on frame Hartley 14.  Dont know how much good advice I may have, but I can certainly BS with the best of 'em.
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Kurt Herzog

Grants Pass, Oregon


Re: [MessaboutW] Electric Hookup Question

Electri-Cal
 

After a good nights nap, I got the solution.  I just ordered a bunch of two pronged 20 mm marine panel  plug in sets, and covers.  Enough for all 4 batteries, the extra removable accessory battery -- and some spare sets just in case.  20 mm is a bit bigger plugs and better threading grip when cold or wet.

I thought a 4 prong plug would do at first, but accessing each battery in case of need sounded like a good idea, for the extra 2 plugs involved.  The charger is only for the boat, no clips or clamps need be on it.  Not leaving that expensive charger for storage either, even if there was room for it.

From China takes weeks, so using the two prong trailer plugs will do till it's set up later,  Maybe this will give others some accessory plug ideas -- it is the same plug as for mast or spreader lights, lots of sources.

Later Coots,  Cal

 


Southern Oregon Coots

 

I got a call today inquiring about the Coots from Frank D'A down in Medford. He's been to the Wooden Boat School in Maine, and a few other boatbuilding classes, and is becoming an avid amateur boatbuilder. So far he's built a Richard Kolin designed Heidi skiff, and is finishing a little Glen-L pram. For his next project he's planning on building a real wood, not plywood, peapod from Joel White plans. He's also got a Potter 15 in need of rejuvenation he want to use to learn how to sale. He sounds like a real boat nut who likely has what ot takes to be a Coot.

Frank's problem is that he can't find any other wooden boat nuts to BS with and ask for advice. Do we still have some Southern Oregon Coots lurking around here? Are you there, Larry B? Phil in Yreka?

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John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
If one morning I walked on top of the water across the Potomac River, the headline that afternoon would read "President Can't Swim.” (Lyndon Johnson)


Re: [MessaboutW] Electric Hookup Question

 

The new charger has two sets of leads? To charge two separate 12 volt batteries? That complicates things. <sigh> A 24 volt charger would have been nice. Is the manual for the charger available online? Often they are. If we can look at it we'll be better equipped to dive you our opinions.

When charging you can rewire the two 12 volt batteries in each bank together in parallel. Then each bank will look like a single 12 volt battery to the charger, and you'll be able to charge both banks at once. But there are hazards to hooking batteries up in parallel. Bob L knows a lot more about that stuff than I do. As does Myles T.

On 1/18/2018 8:51 PM, Cal wrote:
I have the charger for Surprise, they refer to single batteries as BANKS.  So, no I can not hook the two deep cycles as a larger 12 volt single.  They also say not to use the charger on more than one battery per hook up, so no pack bridged hook up either.  Then thy say they meant each battery is to be 12 volt, so again I can't just hook up two and get the 24 volts I use.  I need the two packs of two 12 volt batts. to work.
The only simple way I see is four sets of two plugs one pair for each battery, manual switched.  I can plug in the left or right packs as needed, but that's a lot of plugging stuff.  Nope, no returns, I bought this from a e-Bay source who has no idea on this, and its a $175. fancy solid state charger.
I'll call the factory, but the answer will be to just buy another charger, and I'm running out of room, as well as spare cash.  I will look for some pair of plugs that will charge two batts. from a combo plug with 4 connections.  Manually plug between pack 1 and 2 -- maybe??  Any ideas out there, or am I not stating this clearly in the first place??  Meanwhile i'm looking for something to try out.
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John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. (Benjamin Franklin)


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Silver Screen Needed by Saturday

 

Thanks, CJ, but I got a screen from Waldport Jim today for the Library Messabout.

After the messabout I'd like to scare up a screen that the Coots can forever own. If I hadn't procrastinated until a few days before the messabout I probably coulda found one in a junk store around here... <g>

On 1/18/2018 6:40 PM, CJ wrote:
We have a screen and slide projector!
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
There is no greater fan of fly fishing than the worm. (Patrick F. McManus)


Electric Hookup Question

Electri-Cal
 

I have the charger for Surprise, they refer to single batteries as BANKS.  So, no I can not hook the two deep cycles as a larger 12 volt single.  They also say not to use the charger on more than one battery per hook up, so no pack bridged hook up either.  Then thy say they meant each battery is to be 12 volt, so again I can't just hook up two and get the 24 volts I use.  I need the two packs of two 12 volt batts. to work.


The only simple way I see is four sets of two plugs one pair for each battery, manual switched.  I can plug in the left or right packs as needed, but that's a lot of plugging stuff.  Nope, no returns, I bought this from a e-Bay source who has no idea on this, and its a $175. fancy solid state charger.  


I'll call the factory, but the answer will be to just buy another charger, and I'm running out of room, as well as spare cash.  I will look for some pair of plugs that will charge two batts. from a combo plug with 4 connections.  Manually plug between pack 1 and 2 -- maybe??   Any ideas out there, or am I not stating this clearly in the first place??  Meanwhile i'm looking for something to try out.


Thanks,   Cal


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Silver Screen Needed by Saturday

lon wells <lononriver@...>
 

I spoke to the supervisors when I reserved the room. They have no media equipment. 



On Thursday, January 18, 2018, 5:48:13 PM PST, Seth Bloombaum sbloombaum@... [MessaboutW] wrote:


 

Call the library? They oughta' have one...


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Jim's Shellback Dinghy

Jhcalbany@aol.com
 

As for me,  the cookies seemed to work. There was more than enough muscle to turn the boat. Everyone seemed to be happy with cookies. Maybe next time I'll buy John a pizza then he won't call me cheap. But the thing to remember, the boat got turned over.

Jim


Re: Silver Screen Needed by Saturday

Carolynn Macomber <cdmac1969@...>
 

We have a screen and slide projector!


Re: Silver Screen Needed by Saturday

Seth Bloombaum <sbloombaum@...>
 

Call the library? They oughta' have one...


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Jim's Shellback Dinghy

 

Sometimes we get pizza, but Jim was a cheapskate and made us buy our own lunches before this boat turning. <sigh> Sometimes we've even got pizza AND cookies! :o)

On 1/17/2018 8:41 PM, Dan in AlmostCanada wrote:
Cookies?� You guys got cookies?�� Once a week the jailer comes by and lets US out for a bath.� That is, if we don�t already drink the water, with the bread we get, tossed under the door.� At least, I think it�s water.� Cookies, huh?
That wasn�t no chainsaw outa� control.� Worse.� A Sawzall, fully in control.� A truly awful day.� I guess that was about two months ago. ��The new cabin is more or less put together.� A couple feet longer, with a plywood top.� �We�re getting close to being ready for a break to freedom�the boat, that is.� As far as the workforce, here; we can petition for clemency on alternate Christmases. ��But, if I asked for a cookie, I�d probably get tossed in the tank.� Between shifts.� Wow.� You guys get cook ies.
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John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
It is a great art to saunter. (Henry David Thoreau)


Re: Jim's Shellback Dinghy

Dan
 

Cookies?  You guys got cookies?   Once a week the jailer comes by and lets US out for a bath.  That is, if we don’t already drink the water, with the bread we get, tossed under the door.  At least, I think it’s water.  Cookies, huh?

 

That wasn’t no chainsaw outa’ control.  Worse.  A Sawzall, fully in control.  A truly awful day.  I guess that was about two months ago.   The new cabin is more or less put together.  A couple feet longer, with a plywood top.   We’re getting close to being ready for a break to freedom—the boat, that is.  As far as the workforce, here; we can petition for clemency on alternate Christmases.   But, if I asked for a cookie, I’d probably get tossed in the tank.  Between shifts.  Wow.  You guys get cookies. 


Re: [MessaboutW] Silver Screen Needed by Saturday

jim reim
 

I have a screen.  Its about 4ft x 4ft.
Not sure how to get it to you, but I might b able to get it to the Albany Corvallis area.

Jim R

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 6:47:41 PM PST, John Kohnen jkohnen@... [MessaboutW] wrote:


 

Do any of you have an old slide projector gathering dust in the back of
a closet? How about the screen that goes with it? Brandon f is going to
be giving a presentation at the Library Messabout on Oceanus's voyage to
Hawaii and back. I've got a projector that will project his photos, but
nothing to project them onto. If there's a screen in Cootdom, can I
borrow it for the Library Messabout?

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John (jkohnen@...)
There is no fun in doing nothing when you have nothing to do. (Jerome K.
Jerome)

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