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Re: [MessaboutW] Andy's Big Willamette Adventure

James Pettycrew
 

Andy, Too much time pressure for me and difficulty arranging transport ; and I doubt I could keep up, however, I would probably be available to help with transport around the falls. I am leaving for the Toledo boat show Friday Aug.19 with my wife and daughter so if you haven't found a ride back by then we would probably have room for you and your kayak. My contact info should be in the newest Coot contact list. My Elantra GT has a roof rack but no special kayak stuff. I haven't had any problems transporting my Toto on it.   Jim P.


From: "Andrew Linn alinn@... [MessaboutW]"
To: MessaboutW@...; Gene Berry
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 12:26 PM
Subject: [MessaboutW] Andy's Big Willamette Adventure

 
I have been very lax in my planning and preparation for paddling the
length of the Willamette. I'm still going, but it is so poorly thought
out, so poorly planned, that as a responsible Adventure Leader, I
cannot ask anyone to come with me.

That doesn't mean you CAN'T come, it just means coming would be a worse
idea than it was before.

It's still 180+ miles and it still has to before Friday, August 19 so I
can make it to the Boat Show.

Logistics will still be a nightmare. Let's start at the beginning:
I am going to launch from Armitage Park in Eugene (it's past the worst
of the rapids.)
I am planning on long (long) days, like up in the morning, go all day,
find a suitable place to stop sometime after 6pm/before dark.
The first two days sorta kinda need to be the hardest, as that's where
the water is moving fastest and where I (we) can cover the most ground.
Once we get to Newberg, the Willamette slows to a knot or so and we'll
have to work to cover ground.

Essentially, I want to be outside of Corvallis on Saturday night, past
Salem on Sunday night, Newberg on Monday night, West Linn on Tuesday
night, and done on Wednesday. This allows one day for wiggle room.

I will arrive at Armitage Park Friday, August 12. Depending on
participation (meaning if there are people who can ONLY leave on
Saturday) I will leave either Friday or Saturday. Leaving on Saturday
makes Saturday a very long day. Leaving on Friday means more time.

I will have a SPOT set up with tracking so anyone can come meet me
anywhere along the way - just say "Hi" or bring me a goodie.

There are two major logistical problems: Portage around Willamette Falls
and return from Kelley Point to Salem. I will have roof racks and tie
downs with me, I just need the transport. If anyone is willing to help
out in these spots, let me know - give me your phone number and I will
call - you can also follow the SPOT track.

I will have two other kayaks available for this trip, one is
comfortable, the other is best suited to a small, flexible person, a
person very similar in size and attitude to an Eskimo. Let me know if
you want to borrow one for the trip and I can bring it to Armitage Park.

NOTES: Overnights will be mostly beach camping and on docks. Water
re-supplies will be an adventure in itself. I will carry one gallon plus
two quarts with me. I will have a Jet Boil with me. Food and gear is up
to you.




Andy's Big Willamette Adventure

Andrew Linn
 

I have been very lax in my planning and preparation for paddling the length of the Willamette. I'm still going, but it is so poorly thought out, so poorly planned, that as a responsible Adventure Leader, I cannot ask anyone to come with me.

That doesn't mean you CAN'T come, it just means coming would be a worse idea than it was before.

It's still 180+ miles and it still has to before Friday, August 19 so I can make it to the Boat Show.

Logistics will still be a nightmare. Let's start at the beginning:
I am going to launch from Armitage Park in Eugene (it's past the worst of the rapids.)
I am planning on long (long) days, like up in the morning, go all day, find a suitable place to stop sometime after 6pm/before dark.
The first two days sorta kinda need to be the hardest, as that's where the water is moving fastest and where I (we) can cover the most ground.
Once we get to Newberg, the Willamette slows to a knot or so and we'll have to work to cover ground.

Essentially, I want to be outside of Corvallis on Saturday night, past Salem on Sunday night, Newberg on Monday night, West Linn on Tuesday night, and done on Wednesday. This allows one day for wiggle room.

I will arrive at Armitage Park Friday, August 12. Depending on participation (meaning if there are people who can ONLY leave on Saturday) I will leave either Friday or Saturday. Leaving on Saturday makes Saturday a very long day. Leaving on Friday means more time.

I will have a SPOT set up with tracking so anyone can come meet me anywhere along the way - just say "Hi" or bring me a goodie.

There are two major logistical problems: Portage around Willamette Falls and return from Kelley Point to Salem. I will have roof racks and tie downs with me, I just need the transport. If anyone is willing to help out in these spots, let me know - give me your phone number and I will call - you can also follow the SPOT track.

I will have two other kayaks available for this trip, one is comfortable, the other is best suited to a small, flexible person, a person very similar in size and attitude to an Eskimo. Let me know if you want to borrow one for the trip and I can bring it to Armitage Park.

NOTES: Overnights will be mostly beach camping and on docks. Water re-supplies will be an adventure in itself. I will carry one gallon plus two quarts with me. I will have a Jet Boil with me. Food and gear is up to you.


The Boathouse this weekend

Andrew Linn
 

The plan for the weekend is pretty simple: Today, Friday, we will be stitching the third kayak together, shrinking the skin, and getting a coat of spar varnish on her.

Tomorrow, Saturday, we are building two cardboard boats for the Boat show August 19-21.

It's going to be a GREAT weekend!


Re: [MessaboutW] Save $$ on Batteries --- New Acct. Numbers !!!!

lendercal@...
 

Not right at hand, haven't done much on pix on Yahoo.  Come on down to Fern Ridge, we have 3 EV boats with designed systems, and you can cruise on all three.  That's what shows are for, giving rides, and giving you the chance to try on different systems and hull shapes for EV power.

My new one will be later, but it is coming right along.  I even have sketches for a DISPRO swing up drive system, and a local machinist is showing me how that might work ever so slick as a welded or cast installation, cool !!

See you at the show, and if you need a battery we got those here too.

Later,   Cal


Speaking of Cruises...

 

http://maritime-executive.com/article/summer-cruise-visits-the-north-seas-oil-rigs

--
John (jkohnen@...)
Fishing is a delusion entirely surrounded by liars in old
clothes. (Don Marquis)


Coot Canadian Cruise?

 

It's been WAY too long since I've had an Aurora Explorer fix! Last month Hal and I were talking about maybe getting some Coots together to do a cruise aboard her as a group. She's all booked up for this year, so this'd be next year. If we want to make this happen, we should start the ball rolling soon. Is there any interest?

The Aurora Explorer is a 130+ foot long landing craft that carries freight out of Campbell River to out of the way places in BC's Inside Passage. Being a landing craft, she can service locations without any docks, though those aren't her only customers. The cargo is Aurora Explorer's first priority, but the 12 passengers get treated real good. :o) The food is excellent, served family style, and you can spend all your time up in the wheelhouse BSing with the crew if you want. That's where you'll usually find me. <g> When the cargo schedule allows, the ship will stop for field trips ashore. The only "entertainment" provided is watching the crew work cargo and the beautiful scenery and wildlife. My kind of cruise! :o)

http://www.marinelinktours.com/

I've cruised aboard the Aurora Explorer three times so far. I don't know why I still haven't got the pix from the last time into Flickr...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/collections/72157632643731055/

It's time to go again! Aurora Explorer carries a maximum of 12 passengers, in six double staterooms. Coots who won't be bringing a spouse or sweetheart can share staterooms with other single Coots. Otherwise they charge extra for "single occupancy". Arrangements can probably be made to share transportation up to Campbell River.

The "High Season" isn't really the best time to go. It's the most expensive, and that's the peak season for mosquitoes, blackflies and fog. I've gone twice in the fall "Late Season" and once in the spring "Shoulder Season" and thoroughly enjoyed both. I prefer the northern route, now called "Broughton Archipelago", since it's more remote, but both are beautiful. BTW, people rave about Desolation Sound, but when I was there in Aurora Explorer I shrugged, "this sure is beautiful, but so are a lot of other places we've been!" <g> The actual routes the ship takes are dictated by the cargo she'll be carrying, and you won't know until the day you board her. It's possible that a cruise will cover parts of both the north and south areas.

A cruise aboard the Aurora Explorer is totally unlike any "real" cruise. Any Coot worth his or her salt would love it! Hiow about it?

--
John (jkohnen@...)
The wonder is always new that any sane man can be a sailor.
(Ralph Waldo Emerson)


Re: [MessaboutW] Save $$ on Batteries --- New Acct. Numbers !!!!

mstrader77@...
 

Cal,
Do you have any photos of your boat and setup? It sounds interesting. For slow cruising, electric is pretty hard to beat...quiet, clean, and reliable. Mark


Re: [MessaboutW] Save $$ on Batteries --- New Acct. Numbers !!!!

lendercal@...
 

PS-- Interstate has everything form hearing aid, flashlight, tractor, the one in Eugene has some amazing stuff, for lighting just since last year.  I need to ask about solar stuff, they have all the controllers, cable and HD connectors for that stuff too.  The guys are pleasant, and stand behind what they sell,  and yep the account will cost me an occasional pizza for the crew.

Check It out, Thanks   Cal


Re: [MessaboutW] Save $$ on Batteries --- New Acct. Numbers !!!!

lendercal@...
 

Thanks, John a good deal on good stuff that helps us all, that works !!   I'm ready for the boat show, Dexter test today with Myles, and Steamin' Joe did well. periods of wind, but not sailboat weather, about right to do a cruise.

At hull speed, about 4 mph we had a 5 hour cruise, so 20 land miles range with some left over.  That's rounded to be easy to figure for later.  Recharge took 4.24 hrs, so rounded to let trickle a bit, means run and recharge is about the same, and that is what I found last time. 

Zero problems, almost zero noise, and with three of us no difference in battery drain.  Recharged to one volt higher than original test charge last night, yea !!  That's cabin in place, and the three of us, so a good load.

I plan to day cruise from the "charging" dock, then move to a slip for security at night.  I can do more people stuff, and have a secure berth that way. I hope that works for you, cruise visitors, and the show staff.  looking forward to a fun time, it's been too long for a gam.

Thanks Again,  Cal


Re: [MessaboutW] Save $$ on Batteries --- New Acct. Numbers !!!!

 

Thanks for setting this up, Cal. Whenever a Coot needs a battery of any sort, for a boat or otherwise, they should go to Interstate and get the Coot deal. These sorts of things only work when we use them. When Englund's got network computerized the Coot discount wasn't in the system. When last I was in Astoria I asked their manager about reinstating the discount, but after checking it out he said we didn't use the discount enough when we had it, so he declined to reinstate it. <sigh>

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:01:10 -0700, Cal wrote:

Interstate in Eugene will now start a COOTS account, cash or cards only. Still ask for Clayton, I just talked them into that 10 min. ago. So, every auto, truck, boat or whatever Interstate bought through COOTS, will also help your electric boating brothers, OK . That is 650 Seneca Rd. in Eugene, phone 541-302-6176 and ask for Clayton, but the desk can also do this, given a few buyers to make them remember this as a good deal for us all.
...
PS, Did this help anybody, or am I just wasting time doing anything ???
--
John (jkohnen@...)
The man who is always waving the flag usually waives what it
stands for. (Laurence J. Peter)


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Something Cute

 

That is neat, Hank! That cutie does solve the problem of what to do for a boat when pulling a trailer. <g> Thanks for telling us about it, but it's too late for me. <g>

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 22:10:38 -0700, Happy Hank wrote:

Gee, John, I just discovered you bought the wrong trailer. Saw this one when going by a local trailer dealer and as it was bright red thought it might be a Mypod. Could not resist stopping to check it out. A very neat small light trailer and you get a boat, too

See at The American Dream Trailer Company | Teardrop Camper Trailers http://americandreamtrailers.com/.
--
John (jkohnen@...)
If a rabbit defined intelligence the way man does, then the most
intelligent animal would be a rabbit, followed by the animal
most willing to obey the commands of a rabbit. (Robert Brault)


Old Photographs

 

Shorpy puts high-rez scans of large format photos online. The clarity and detail in old glass negatives is amazing! Here's one for you steamboat and paddlewheel buffs:

http://www.shorpy.com/node/21178?size=_original#caption

Searching around in their collection is a good time waster. <g> Here's a start:

http://www.shorpy.com/search/node/boat

--
John (jkohnen@...)
If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs
I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons.
(James Thurber)


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Something Cute

Dave Thompson
 

Sorry 'bout that. 

When the boat was off the trailer there were 4 or 5 formed ribs that fit into pockets, which held up a canvas top to protect you from the elements. It also had a compartment across the back, below the galley, that was set up to hold the small outboard & gas tank. Sure helped make some great memories when I was 10 & 11.

Thanks for the link!

-DaveT

On Jul 27, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Dave Thompson <dave_tek@...> wrote:

Yeah! That's like one my parents borrowed, back in 1960 & 61. That one was aluminum. Across the 

Hard at work here...

On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:10 PM, happyhank07@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:

 

Gee, John, I just discovered you bought the wrong trailer.  Saw this one when going by a local trailer dealer and as it was bright red thought it might be a Mypod.  Could not resist stopping to check it out.  A very neat small light trailer and you get a boat, too



Hank Burroughs
Near Salem

 

 


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Something Cute

Dave Thompson
 

Yeah! That's like one my parents borrowed, back in 1960 & 61. That one was aluminum. Across the 

Hard at work here...

On Jul 26, 2016, at 10:10 PM, happyhank07@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:

 

Gee, John, I just discovered you bought the wrong trailer.  Saw this one when going by a local trailer dealer and as it was bright red thought it might be a Mypod.  Could not resist stopping to check it out.  A very neat small light trailer and you get a boat, too



Hank Burroughs
Near Salem

 

 


Re: Something Cute

Hank
 

Gee, John, I just discovered you bought the wrong trailer.  Saw this one when going by a local trailer dealer and as it was bright red thought it might be a Mypod.  Could not resist stopping to check it out.  A very neat small light trailer and you get a boat, too


Hank Burroughs
Near Salem

 

 


Re: [MessaboutW] New Battery Pack -- YEA !!

lendercal@...
 

Looking forward to it, Joe !!  it will be fun.

Efficiency in EV is long flat, and narrow, then a smaller cheaper motor is affordable.  My lapstrake sail with a MK will do hull speed with two trolling batts.  Not very expensive at all.  The new one is that, to the next level, longer, and still light enough to use another Minn Kota to hull speed.  I build like Bolger, and Little, narrow long and fast with less power, costs a lot less than an outboard.  Just doesn't water ski, but neither do I.

See Ya tomorrow,  Cal


Re: [MessaboutW] New Battery Pack -- YEA !!

JOE LAWTON
 

Cal-  Another talk with Irene; I will be at your place at 9:30 AM!
 
Keep on Sparkin'

Joe L
 


On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:27 PM, "lendercal@... [MessaboutW]" wrote:


 
Sure thing Joe !!  Glad to have you.  Drive on over say some before 9:30, that's when Myles said he will be here, and he is pretty prompt.

  We'll keep the driveway clear, and you can go up toward the barn before we pull the boat down the driveway.  We usually stop for sandwiches and drinks on the way, or bring your own.

I have the new batts. on charge now, a balance and maintain cycle so they all work together longer.

See Ya Then,    Cal



Re: [MessaboutW] Save $$ on Batteries --- New Acct. Numbers !!!!

JOE LAWTON
 

Cal-  Sure would like to see more people to play with electric propulsion but the problem that tends to show up most is original cost.  I was probably the luckiest person to be at the right place @ the right time or I could never have got to over my head where I am now.  At this stage of thye game, life seems to cost way more than I had anticipated.

Not only that, I have a setting to pick up a load of firewood in the am, so I may be a little late.  If you are ready before I get there, go and I will call before I head for your house and will catch you along the way.  See you somewhere in the AM.
 
Keep on Sparkin'

Joe L
 


On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:01 PM, "lendercal@... [MessaboutW]" wrote:


 
Interstate in Eugene will now start a COOTS account, cash or cards only.  Still ask for Clayton, I just talked them into that 10 min. ago.  So, every auto, truck, boat or whatever Interstate bought through COOTS, will also help your electric boating brothers, OK .  That is 650 Seneca Rd. in Eugene, phone 541-302-6176  and ask for  Clayton, but the desk can also do this, given a few buyers to make them remember this as a good deal for us all.

We will also get special deals on the full line of batteries, probably variable as to what kind and size of course, and -- trade in bucks back.  I wanted some deal on Exides, but this is better, as Exides dealers seem to not be as eager to do biz, I like 'em but not enough to pay a premium to go there.  PLUS they forklifted mine to the boat gunnels, way better than grunting them up & over.

In reading over my notes, the TOTAL power pack batts. should be replaced every three years --  OR if one dies hard, it contaminates the pack with overdraw ( just like my bank?? ).   That is for lead/acid batteries of course.  

Another reason to go easy on power surges, and I will now start working on the second bank, probably in a smaller lighter size. Not right away, to split replacement dates.  Plus the next boat of course, again AAArgh!!!

Give Em' Hell , EH ??  --- Best Wishes,   Cal

PS,   Did this help anybody, or am I just wasting time doing anything ???





Save $$ on Batteries --- New Acct. Numbers !!!!

lendercal@...
 

Interstate in Eugene will now start a COOTS account, cash or cards only.  Still ask for Clayton, I just talked them into that 10 min. ago.  So, every auto, truck, boat or whatever Interstate bought through COOTS, will also help your electric boating brothers, OK .  That is 650 Seneca Rd. in Eugene, phone 541-302-6176  and ask for  Clayton, but the desk can also do this, given a few buyers to make them remember this as a good deal for us all.


We will also get special deals on the full line of batteries, probably variable as to what kind and size of course, and -- trade in bucks back.  I wanted some deal on Exides, but this is better, as Exides dealers seem to not be as eager to do biz, I like 'em but not enough to pay a premium to go there.  PLUS they forklifted mine to the boat gunnels, way better than grunting them up & over.


In reading over my notes, the TOTAL power pack batts. should be replaced every three years --  OR if one dies hard, it contaminates the pack with overdraw ( just like my bank?? ).   That is for lead/acid batteries of course.  

Another reason to go easy on power surges, and I will now start working on the second bank, probably in a smaller lighter size. Not right away, to split replacement dates.  Plus the next boat of course, again AAArgh!!!

Give Em' Hell , EH ??  --- Best Wishes,   Cal

PS,   Did this help anybody, or am I just wasting time doing anything ???



Re: [MessaboutW] New Battery Pack -- YEA !!

lendercal@...
 

Sure thing Joe !!  Glad to have you.  Drive on over say some before 9:30, that's when Myles said he will be here, and he is pretty prompt.

  We'll keep the driveway clear, and you can go up toward the barn before we pull the boat down the driveway.  We usually stop for sandwiches and drinks on the way, or bring your own.

I have the new batts. on charge now, a balance and maintain cycle so they all work together longer.

See Ya Then,    Cal

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