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Our brother Coots from down under

Dan W
 


Re: [MessaboutW] At the Boathouse

James Pettycrew
 

Andrew, Thanks for all the great stuff you do especially with the kids. Sadly I live in Portland and don't like to drive much so I usually stay close to home or I would be there helping on occasion. See you at the boat show though! Spent part of father's day canoeing on the Willamette. One thing I learned, don't get to close to docks or rock walls because the wake board boat waves can bounce off them and then get amplified when meeting another wake. Yikes, the bow of my Toto went up about 4 feet. No problem though because it rides over them nicely. Just keep it in mind when in a small boat with wake board boats around.  Jim P.



From: "Andrew Linn alinn@... [MessaboutW]"
To: MessaboutW@...; Toledo Boathouse ; Duckworks Forum
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 10:24 AM
Subject: [MessaboutW] At the Boathouse

 
Ripping good weekend at the Boathouse. Things are coming along nicely.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/2016/160618_kayaks/index.htm



Selling or Trade the 1948 Higgins Rundabout

Richard(Dick)
 

Can see my ad & photos on craigslist Portland, Seattle, Eugene. Trade for car or truck of equal value, with Clean Title.


Richard





At the Boathouse

Andrew Linn
 

Ripping good weekend at the Boathouse. Things are coming along nicely.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/2016/160618_kayaks/index.htm


Re: [MessaboutW] old shoe set up

Bryan Vernon
 

I have a set of plans...could send a pic of that detail perhaps...Bryan


On Jun 17, 2016, at 4:18 PM, 'phil' phil@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:

 

I am not sure that the boom for my old shoe is set up correctly or really how it should be done.  I was wondering if anybody had any close up pictures or drawing of the ways the boom should connect to the mast and main sail. 
phil


Re: [MessaboutW] old shoe set up

phil <phil@...>
 

thanks John, I think you have told me what I was wondering. I went back to the spirit boom as it takes up less space then down and easier to mess with. and I was not too concerned about full sail (speed) ! I am used to smoother operation of sails and such in tracks. And reefing seems like a joke . but I have some ideas. to try as I am not into hassle. but still open to ideas.
phil

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From: 'John Kohnen' jkohnen@boat-links.com [MessaboutW]
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 3:17 PM
To: MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MessaboutW] old shoe set up

Are you using Tom's wishbone boom or the original sprit boom? If you can
show us some photos of what you've got we can most likely figure things
out for you.

Loafer doesn't have a sail track, so reefing is a hassle, at the very
least, or not practical at all. The bane of sprit-boomed leg o' muttons,
alas.

Wait a minute! I just had a brain storm... I'm probably just crazy, but
I'll try something on Pearl and tell you how it goes...

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:18:06 -0700,Phil { wrote:

I am not sure that the boom for my old shoe is set up correctly or
really how it should be done. I was wondering if anybody had any close
up pictures or drawing of the ways the boom should connect to the mast
and main sail.
phil

--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know
have gone to a better world, I am moved to lead a different
life. (Mark Twain)


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Re: [MessaboutW] old shoe set up

 

Are you using Tom's wishbone boom or the original sprit boom? If you can show us some photos of what you've got we can most likely figure things out for you.

Loafer doesn't have a sail track, so reefing is a hassle, at the very least, or not practical at all. The bane of sprit-boomed leg o' muttons, alas.

Wait a minute! I just had a brain storm... I'm probably just crazy, but I'll try something on Pearl and tell you how it goes...

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:18:06 -0700,Phil { wrote:

I am not sure that the boom for my old shoe is set up correctly or really how it should be done. I was wondering if anybody had any close up pictures or drawing of the ways the boom should connect to the mast and main sail.
phil
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
When I reflect upon the number of disagreeable people who I know
have gone to a better world, I am moved to lead a different
life. (Mark Twain)


1965 American Plastic 8' Dink

LesterB
 

Have had this little boat sitting in the back yard too long.  Needs to go to away by the holiday weekend.  Special Coot price ... zero, free, you come get it you own it.  Was given to me many years ago and have hardly ever used it.  I have no paperwork at all on the thing.  Even though at one time I had a Bill of Sale I never changed the registration since I only used it as a row boat.


Located at my home in Florence.


Les


Boathouse today

Andrew Linn
 

We had a fantastically productive day yesterday and now BOTH kayaks are ready to have their ribs bent on. Ever want to bend ribs? Now is your chance, come on down. 10-2


Icebreaker Crew Commended for Emergency Repairs

 

These are clever, capable Coasties. :o) I like reading about stuff like this. Gives me hope for the younger generations:

http://maritime-executive.com/editorials/crew-of-polar-star-commended-for-repairs

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jxwnjqc

However I don't like reading about the state of the US icebreaker "fleet". <sigh>

--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
It has always been my private conviction that any man who pits
his intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming. (John
Steinbeck)


Re: [MessaboutW] Brian Gage [3 Attachments]

lon wells <lononriver@...>
 

Sad to hear about Brian's mother. I had met her when I was visiting Brian, It sounds like she is in a better place. I met Brian at the first Quinn's Cove Summer Solstice  Messabout.  At that time he had his Dory "Freedom" which was a John Gardner modified Chamberlain gunning dory .  The Dory was impressive for several reasons, it was a classical design, one glance and the masterful workmanship was on every piece of the vessel.  But the thing that always intrigued me was Brian's use of material.  I asked about this beautiful piece of rosewood, Brian said it was a old coffee table he bought at a garage sale.  The seats had a interesting grain pattern Brain said they were part of a old cedar fence he tore down and he saw the unique pattern.  The boat  had a integrating bronze fitting I asked Brian about it be bought a chunk of bronze at a garage sale and used his hack saw to shape the piece and while watching TV he would file and sand the bronze into the final polished piece.  Years latter I had Brian build the railing for the dock landing and ramp.  Brian is a master wood worker with a recycling and frugal touch.      I believe this might be a John Kohnen or a Marylin Couch photo.


On Friday, June 17, 2016 2:32 PM, "'John Kohnen' jkohnen@... [MessaboutW]" wrote:


<*>[Attachment(s) from John Kohnen included below]

Brian Gage called me last evening. His mother passed away about ten days 
ago after a lengthy illness. Brian spent just about all his time for the 
last five years or so caring for her at home, with no help from the rest 
of the family. It was an exhausting and unpleasant ordeal for both of 
them. His mother's suffering is over and now Brian can get on with his 
life. He's signed up his Al Mason designed garvey motor cruiser for the 
Toledo show (hoping he doesn't get entry #13 this time! ), and I hope 
we get to see  more of him at messabouts again.

--
John (jkohnen@...)
He who would make his own liberty secure must guard even his
enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he
establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. (Thomas Paine)

<*>Attachment(s) from John Kohnen:

<*> 3 of 3 Photo(s) https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MessaboutW/attachments/19933944
  <*> Rover-01.jpg
  <*> Rover-02.jpg
  <*> Rover-03.jpg

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Re: [MessaboutW] RiversWest sale on now

Seth Bloombaum <sbloombaum@...>
 

Both the honda and the whisperguide are gone.

Investigation showed the electric at 32 somethings. I think that makes it a medium power.

The RiversWest sale was a nice little gathering, glad I went, and it really helped clear some garage clutter, too!

One thing that I thought had sold was a Porter Cable laminate trimmer, with the standard base, a laminate trimming base to cut backsplashes and edgeing, and an offset base. I got the trimmer because I thought I would do a glued-lapstrake canoe per that method with trimming to ribbands on a mold.

Is anyone interested at $75? Clearing out the garage...

Best,
Seth
The other one, in Portland
 

__________________________
I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel - Maya Angelou


On Friday, June 17, 2016 2:45 PM, "'John Kohnen' jkohnen@... [MessaboutW]" wrote:


Did the Honda get sold, Seth? Bet it did... I know someone who'd love to 
replace "that damn motor" with a little Honda.

How about the Whisper Guide? How powerful is it supposed to be?

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:07:39 -0700, Seth B wrote:

> I'm selling an 80s Honda 2hp that starts 1st pull for $325.
>
> A Whisper Guide Power Plus project electric motor with accessories, two 
> props, control box, $30.

> ...

--
John (jkohnen@...)
If you can get nothing better out of the world, get a good
dinner out of it, at least. (Herman Melville)


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old shoe set up

phil <phil@...>
 

I am not sure that the boom for my old shoe is set up correctly or really how it should be done.  I was wondering if anybody had any close up pictures or drawing of the ways the boom should connect to the mast and main sail. 
phil


Re: [MessaboutW] Fw: canoe cart [5 Attachments]

 

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:20:32 -0700, Jim P wrote:


I decided I needed a cart for my Toto so I went to Duckworks boatbuilder Suppy Magazine web site and the "How to" index feature and found one designed by Steve Lansdowne. Look under "Canoe"/ "Cart". I liked it, it was useful and cheap to build so I started to build one. As I got further into the project I decided I didn't like the fact that it was in three parts and that it was held together by a bungee while in use. So I made some changes that some other boaters may be interested in. First I moved the top pieces that held it all together while unfolded and put them on the sides with pivot bolts at the rear and slots in the front that drop over a bolt with the head cut off (replaced by a screw on knob or a wing nut...what ever you have laying around). I also designed the legs to fold up as well.
Picture #1 shows just about everything. The side board (one on each side) with pivot bolt at the rear of the cart (right in pic). The slot in the side board that drops over the front bolt with screw on knob. The left front leg is extended and pivots on a screw near its top (hole should be about 1 1/2 " below the bottom of the cross member so you can add a stopper block for the leg to stop against when extended) You can't see the left leg because it is still folded up. You can see the axle on the other side of the cart. I used 4 1/2" bolts in stead of an axle all the way across. The bolts are overly long so I will attach my hold down straps to the ends of the wheel bolts. Since I didn't use an Axle all the way across I decided to add a side to side brace near the bottom of the up rights just to add to its strength. You can also see a pencil line in the front up right. When the cart is folded up and not in use this line is where the rear up right crosses the front up right and stops. Then I knew where I had room for the front leg. The front leg folds up to about that line. Lets see, what else, Oh I padded the top cross pieces that connect the tops of the up rights to each other and held them in place with red plastic ties. Since I have about a 3/4" skeg where the cart will be I cut a little chunk out of the top crossing board and also cut down the foam in that area. If you have a bigger skeg you may want to use 1x4 top crossing boards (side to side on cart) instead of1x2's like I used. I hope the other pictures add more clarity. Hope this helps some one build a nice cart. I love mine. Big thanks to Steve!

Picture #2 All folded. Bungee keeps it from flopping apart while folded but isn't really necessary. Oh, and because I made the side pieces a little long it stands up while folded (and bunged ) just luck on that one, not by design, ha.Picture #3 Under Baby Blue, note when the legs and wheels are touching the ground the boat and cart are at about a 15 degree angle--perfect. Vary the leg length and or pivot position to get a different angle. Picture #4 View from front of cart.
My kids say I "Over explain" so I will give the dimensions and measurements and if you have any questions I will try to clarify. Look at Steve Lansdowns original design then go to my changes and you can figure it out. I made it this size to fit in the rear hatch of my Toto. Both top cross members are 10" long. The 4 uprights are 12" long ( 10" would work too and make it shorter.) The up rights are notched at the top to receive the cross members.(3/4" by 1 1/2" notch if using 1x2's) The rear up rights are 10" apart (out side to out side). The front up rights are 8 1/2" apart (outside to out side) since they go inside the rear up rights when drilled for the axle. Hope you can see that in one of the pictures.Therefore the front top cross member sticks out 3/4" on each side to allow for folding. I added small blocks of wood to the ends of the cross members so I had more wood to put the pivot bolts into so at the ends they are 1 12" by 1 1/2". The side arms are about 14" but make them long at first then trim and round to taste. I used 7" old lawn mower wheels with an inside hub that sticks out about one inch which allows the legs and side pieces to fold down inside the wheel. Other wheels could be used but you may have to shim them out to get a compact fold. I used Tite bond 3 glue and just a few screws to hold it together. When completely folded it is 7" thick, 14"wide and 14" long with out the pads. Pads add about and inch so 15" long when padded. I tried it without pads and it worked fine so your choice there.

Again, check the duckworks magazine web site and the "how to" index for better pictures of the cart without the foam pad on it. I forgot to take pics before I put the foam noodle chunks on it and don't want to cut them off.
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John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Oh, be humble, my brother, in your prosperity! Be gentle with
those who are less lucky, if not more deserving. (William
Makepeace Thackeray)


Re: [MessaboutW] RiversWest sale on now

 

Did the Honda get sold, Seth? Bet it did... I know someone who'd love to replace "that damn motor" with a little Honda. <g>

How about the Whisper Guide? How powerful is it supposed to be?

On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 11:07:39 -0700, Seth B wrote:

I'm selling an 80s Honda 2hp that starts 1st pull for $325.

A Whisper Guide Power Plus project electric motor with accessories, two props, control box, $30.
...
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
If you can get nothing better out of the world, get a good
dinner out of it, at least. (Herman Melville)


Brian Gage

 

Brian Gage called me last evening. His mother passed away about ten days ago after a lengthy illness. Brian spent just about all his time for the last five years or so caring for her at home, with no help from the rest of the family. It was an exhausting and unpleasant ordeal for both of them. His mother's suffering is over and now Brian can get on with his life. He's signed up his Al Mason designed garvey motor cruiser for the Toledo show (hoping he doesn't get entry #13 this time! <g>), and I hope we get to see more of him at messabouts again.

--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
He who would make his own liberty secure must guard even his
enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he
establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. (Thomas Paine)


Old Town Dinghy For Sale

 

Brian Gage was given the task of selling Jim Ballou's boat collection, and given a boat for his efforts. It's a 14' Old Town wood and canvas dinghy that Brian believes dates from 1924 or 1925. It was originally sold to The Oaks amusement park by the Selwood Bridge in Portland for use as a livery boat, and has some rare factory options. The boat has some rot in the transom and possibly in the stem. The canvas is in good shape, but any repair would probably involve replacing it. Brian is offering the Coots first dibs. Make him a good offer. (see attachments)

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John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Men with the muckrake are often indispensable to the well-being
of society. (Theodore Roosevelt)


Re: [MessaboutW] Mis-adventures in pouring lead

Richard Green
 

Looks like it went well! Congratulations. When will see the finished product?

Rich

On Jun 17, 2016, at 1:15 PM, 'John Kohnen' jkohnen@boat-links.com [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Here are my photos of the lead pouring:

Act II:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/albums/72157669891313965

And Act I again:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/albums/72157669008393061

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:40:44 -0700, Andrew wrote:

http://andrewlinn.com/sailboats/neptune/160614_keel/index.htm

It'll get there.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Life starts all over again when it gets crisp in the fall. (F.
Scott Fitzgerald)


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Re: [MessaboutW] Mis-adventures in pouring lead

 

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 10:40:44 -0700, Andrew wrote:

http://andrewlinn.com/sailboats/neptune/160614_keel/index.htm

It'll get there.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Life starts all over again when it gets crisp in the fall. (F.
Scott Fitzgerald)


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Mis-adventures in pouring lead

 

A power plane works dandy on lead. It doesn't hurt the plane, so you don't need to use a sacrificial Harbor Freight plane, and lead doesn't even dull the blades very quickly.

Wash your clothes and take a shower after carving away on the lead. Don't eat any of it, and be sure to wash your hands well before having lunch.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:00:08 -0700, Jamie wrote:

A power plane will remove the excess and leave a nice smooth finish. You may need to sharpen the blades after - mine was already due for sharpening so I had nothing to lose.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image
when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
(Anne Lamott)

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