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At the Boathouse this week

Andrew Linn
 

After last week's mess up of not having enough work planned, I'm going overboard this week. There'll be plenty to do:
Cutting stem pieces
Cutting and shaping deck beams
Cutting gunnels
Mortising gunnels
Trimming the ends of gunnels
Assembling the decks of Boats 2 & 3
Fitting the stems of Boat 1
Attaching the keel of Boat 1

And, of course, more.

Come on by: Friday 4-7, Saturday 10-2.


Re: Fern Ridge Lunch Messabout Friday

Kathryn Waters
 

Would be there if it weren't for work. And re: the pack boat repair I'm still waiting for all the appropriate goos to arrive. For the inside it's called Aqua shield from Advance Coatings, and for the outside it's LVP3200. That's what AGB uses and I'm sticking to it! Have a great time messing about on Friday.


Re: [MessaboutW] First epoxy thoughts, then Heated workspace

lendercal@...
 

I don't think I could go back to poly. resin.  The bad smells, headaches, and general health issues say that I can't afford to lose any more brain cells.  However others are welcome to do as they choose, freedom for all is what works for me.

Keep on cookin', ---  Cal


Re: [MessaboutW] 77' mega yacht, Positivie Energy, released a bit too much of it yesterday

 

Too bad, indeed. It's always sad when someone looses their boat. But she wasn't much of a beauty. Sort of a McMansion of a boat:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hczdv7b

I could quibble that 77' is just a biggish yacht, far from a "mega" yacht. ;o) It might even have been owned by an ordinarily wealthy person, not a billionaire. Or even a really, really, really boat poor old Coot. <g>

http://www.camperandnicholsons.com/superyachts-for-sale.htm

Hmm. These folks set the bar low enough for mega-yachts -- about 19' -- so Positivie Energy would almost qualify:

http://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial-features/mega-yachts-explained--27357

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:39:43 -0700, Andrew wrote:

http://viconsortium.com/featured/yacht-called-positive-energy-burns-ashes-yacht-haven-grande/

Burnt to the waterline - or nearly so. That's too bad.
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
A paranoid is a man who knows a little of what's going on.
(William Burroughs)


77' mega yacht, Positivie Energy, released a bit too much of it yesterday

Andrew Linn
 


Fern Ridge Lunch Messabout Friday

 

The Weatherman says we're gonna have a break from the rain, and that Friday will have the nicest weather. How about a lunch messabout at Orchard Point Park, starting about noon. The rain has been good to us, and so have the Corps of Engineers, so there's plenty of water at the ramp. :o)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/FernRidgeWX

http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/nwp/teacup/willamette/frn.pdf

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AyiR5AH7qpNp6gdkKgUHeoYiYUhSmi2CrdW--c6XSrU/edit#gid=4

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jou5w7o



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John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell
people what they do not want to hear. (Eric Blair)


Re: [MessaboutW] Frustration

phil <phil@...>
 

I just looked at the book.  they just use a 3 ft   1 x 8   slide in between everything except the keel which is screwed flush to it. I would then add or build out from that if need be.  pictures in the book are worth a lot.
 

Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 3:40 PM
Subject: [MessaboutW] Frustration
 
 

I am getting frustrated with the bow stem of the kayaks. You can cut the
funky shape from a 1x12, but they have that damnable ridge that runs
along the lower 'jaw.' I could get a 2x12 and shave off 97% of it. I
could cut the shapes out of other bits of wood and glue them on.

I'm just kind of paralyzed here. Suggestions will be accepted.

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Frustration

Andrew Linn
 

I am getting frustrated with the bow stem of the kayaks. You can cut the funky shape from a 1x12, but they have that damnable ridge that runs along the lower 'jaw.' I could get a 2x12 and shave off 97% of it. I could cut the shapes out of other bits of wood and glue them on.

I'm just kind of paralyzed here. Suggestions will be accepted.


My 1948 16' Higgins runabout............

Richard(Dick)
 

I still have this FOR SALE. Would like to see this in the water with a new owner for some summer enjoyment. 

Can read it's info & see photos here.  OBO -- 1948 16' Higgins Runabout-or trade - $11500 (Lebanon, Or.)


  Richard 


At the Boathouse

Andrew Linn
 

That was a GREAT weekend at the Boathouse. Hank and Geoff and Craig Mitch showed up, so I got done a lot faster. I'll have better plans in place for next week.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/2016/160312_kayak/index.htm


Re: [MessaboutW] Walnut Haiku

Richard Green
 

Nice Haiku.  

Rich




> I bought some Walnut
>  Beautiful dark and flawless
>  I cannot cut it
>


Re: [MessaboutW] Walnut Haiku

Eugene Buchholz
 

Reminds me of a time several years ago when I was living in Sitka, Alaska.  A neighbor was clearing a lot next door and was cutting up a 3+' diameter yellow cedar tree for firewood.  I was almost in tears thinking about that beautiful wood going up in smoke.  Fortunately he offered me the last 6' which I was able to salvage with a friend who had a chainsaw mill.  We cut it into 2" slabs which I intended to use in a boat project.  Later my wife suggested a hot tub.....turned out to be wonderful use for the cedar.

Gene

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:37 PM, 'John Kohnen' jkohnen@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:
Send it to my neighbor. A few years ago the wife came over to apologize
for all the noise they were making -- chainsawing, chopping, stacking...
"Sorry for the noise, we're cutting up some walnut for firewood."

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:07:52 -0800, Richard P wrote:

> I bought some Walnut
>  Beautiful dark and flawless
>  I cannot cut it
>


--
John (jkohnen@...)
Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. (Samuel
Johnson)


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Re: [MessaboutW] Walnut Haiku

Hank
 

Why not?

Hank

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:07 PM, revpettycrew@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:


I bought some Walnut

Beautiful dark and flawless

I cannot cut it





Re: [MessaboutW] Walnut Haiku

 

Send it to my neighbor. A few years ago the wife came over to apologize for all the noise they were making -- chainsawing, chopping, stacking... "Sorry for the noise, we're cutting up some walnut for firewood."

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:07:52 -0800, Richard P wrote:

I bought some Walnut
Beautiful dark and flawless
I cannot cut it
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. (Samuel
Johnson)


Walnut Haiku

James Pettycrew
 

I bought some Walnut

Beautiful dark and flawless

I cannot cut it


Re: [MessaboutW] First epoxy thoughts, then Heated workspace

 

Polyester resin is just as "real" as epoxy resin. They're completely different products -- apples are just as "real" as oranges. Polyester resin is a fine product to use to build fiberglass boats, and just about every manufacturer uses it, including Adirondack Guide Boat:

https://adirondack-guide-boat.com/build-kevlar-boat/

Some higher end boat manufacturers are using vinylester resin nowadays, but I can't think of any who use epoxy, but there may be some building boats on the bleeding edge of performance...

Kathryn should double-check with AGB to make sure her Pack Boat was made using polyester resin, but it looks like she'll be fine using the polyester goo she's got to fix it.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:16:34 -0800, Cal wrote:

Seems that a high end a day ultralight kayak builder would specify real epoxy, partly for the 40% greater strength as so build lighter for weight savings. I certainly would, avoiding weight but high strength would seem to be one reason to have the prices and quality as offered,
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
All loose things seem to drift down to the sea, and so did I.
(Louis L'Amour)


Re: [MessaboutW] This weekend at the Boathouse

Hank
 

Sounds good.  See you this afternoon.

Hank Burroughs

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:09 AM, Andrew Linn alinn@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:
Looks cold and nasty on the coast so we are going to be inside, heaters
going, working on the gunnels and deck beams of the first kayak. An
excellent goal will be to have the deck completed.

We'll be pegging the deck beams in place, then lashing them - no glue.
With luck, we'll get the stems figured out. Should be fun.

Friday 4-7, Saturday 10-2


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Re: [MessaboutW] First epoxy thoughts, then Heated workspace

lendercal@...
 

Seems that a high end a day ultralight kayak builder would specify real epoxy, partly for the 40% greater strength as so build lighter for weight savings. I certainly would, avoiding weight but high strength would seem to be one reason to have the prices and quality as offered,

LATER, Cal


This weekend at the Boathouse

Andrew Linn
 

Looks cold and nasty on the coast so we are going to be inside, heaters going, working on the gunnels and deck beams of the first kayak. An excellent goal will be to have the deck completed.

We'll be pegging the deck beams in place, then lashing them - no glue. With luck, we'll get the stems figured out. Should be fun.

Friday 4-7, Saturday 10-2


Re: [MessaboutW] Boat Plywood Source Info. -- Important

Tom Sorensen
 

I was there @ 11:30 today and picked up some CVG for my yard and boom….

GMTA

Tom

tom sorensen



On Mar 10, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Jim Pettycrew revpettycrew@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:


I was just at Mr. Plywood on Washington st. (just north of Stark) at about 77th or so. 1/8 Hydrotec BS 1088 about $40 a sheet, 1/4 about $53 a sheet.    also    stopped by Habitat for Humanity Restore about 2 miles East of there just south of Stark and they had 5lb. plastic boxes of 1 1/4" stainless steel ring shank nails for $3 a lb. plus 25% off that. I could pick up more for someone if they were sure they could use them.  they may be a little long for 1/4 ply. boats but I still plan to use some and may even cut them short if needed. I'm cheap. ha.  Jim



From: "lendercal@... [MessaboutW]" <MessaboutW@...>
To: MessaboutW@... 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 2:41 PM
Subject: [MessaboutW] Boat Plywood Source Info. -- Important

 
Ok, this is what I found !!  Tree Products in Springfield is my new source.  The phone is 541-689-8515, toll free 800-874-9663.  The yard Mgr. is Billy Davis, and you can call him direct for more information.  They look to have a lot more stock than my previous source, and a better price as well.  I gave him the coots.org  information for our Yahoo site.  I'm sure he will be getting on line to introduce himself.  Please feel free to call him for product information.

Some my (secret) thoughts were to get some special pricing and turn that extra value into a coots or Tree products direct donation ( with a nice sign for them )  for free materials that could be used to help out the school boat building projects I see at the Toledo show.  They probably could use a bit of help, or expand to other school or scout  craft classes. 

My plan couldn't be done for several reasons, so at least we coots can benefit from another source.  Perhaps I was too secretive, but I Hope this helps others build a few more boats.

Have fun, see you at the lake,  -------   Cal




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