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Re: Teak Lady at the Pocket Yacht Palooza?

Lynn Watson
 

I understand, from the broker, that the boat is a Sam Crocker Sallee Rover, built in Eastern Washington and currently for sale at Sea Marine in PT. Interesting boat.cheers,
Lynn


Re: [MessaboutW] Teak Lady at the Pocket Yacht Palooza?

Andrew Linn
 

Their glory blazes too brightly in mine eyes - detail lost in adoration.

On 8/20/2014 10:29 PM, 'John Kohnen' jkohnen@boat-links.com [MessaboutW] wrote:
Nope.

Teak Ladies have longer cabins, are knockabouts (no bowsprit), and have
shorter main booms. You ought know, Andrew, you look at a couple of them
all the time. <g>

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:50:21 -0700, Andrew wrote:

Isn't that a Teak Lady in this picture on Duckworks?
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/14/reports/sep/index.htm


Re: [MessaboutW] Teak Lady at the Pocket Yacht Palooza?

 

Nope.

Teak Ladies have longer cabins, are knockabouts (no bowsprit), and have shorter main booms. You ought know, Andrew, you look at a couple of them all the time. <g>

On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:50:21 -0700, Andrew wrote:

Isn't that a Teak Lady in this picture on Duckworks?
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/14/reports/sep/index.htm
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Dissent is what rescues democracy from a quiet death behind
closed doors. (Lewis H. Lapham)


Re: Teak Lady at the Pocket Yacht Palooza?

Dan
 

IMHO, that's a Sam Rable Picaroon, or at least her mother was scared by one.

And, thanks for your part in a splendid Coottroduction!  Nephew Peyton is already planning a reprise.  And, yes, Andy, I'm still wearing my life jacket...


Dan


Teak Lady at the Pocket Yacht Palooza?

Andrew Linn
 

Isn't that a Teak Lady in this picture on Duckworks?
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/14/reports/sep/index.htm


Re: Thank you, and a suggestion.

Dan
 

Ahoy, Dave!

 

Super to know you “joined up.”  And, since you mentioned meeting up at messabouts, I’ll mention the next three big ones here. 

 

I’ve already invited all the COOTS, and just about anybody else who lives in the western hemisphere, to come to the Eastern Washington, Northern Idaho movable messabout to be held from 10-17 Sep.  I know that time is short.  But so is life.  That forum’s short title is EWMM.  It’s essentially a boat-and-beach-camp affair with options to spend nights in a camper, or at anchor, etc.  Several of the folks involved have boats that they have offered to make crew positions available aboard.  I’ve already loaned out my second tow vehicle with a sailboat on a trailer for the first half.  But, I’ll make an offer to a new-convert.

 

If you can show up with a trailer hitch, I can put a boat on it for this event.  One of the other COOTS who displayed a boat along the Toledo float this weekend is still considering making this event.  And, I’d dearly love to have Andy show up, as well.  That would be a true celeb appearance.  At any event, please contact me directly, or check out that forum (I’ve posted copious descriptions, pictures, etc.) for more details.

 

Also, in September, is the Port Townsend Wooden Boat.  That’s a must do affair in the Puget Sound arena.  Marty Loken is a good guy to know in Port Townsend, vis a vis the small boat world there.

 

And, finally, the Big Kahuna:  Sail Oklahoma is going to be a “really bigggg shewww” this year.  It’s a long darn way to go.  But it’s where all the cool kids will be going in October.

 

Welcome aboard, and don’t be a stranger.

 

Dan Rogers

“Lady Bug,”  “Punkin’ Seed,” “Roughneck,” “Shenanigan,” “Old Salt,” and a cast of supporting actresses…


Re: Cardboard Boat Race last Saturday

Andy Rusten
 

that is hilarious !!!! I bet newport slunk home with their tail between their legs.... Toledo honor saved

bet people got their pink slips on Monday.... lol

--
Andy T. Rusten
Saint Helens Marina
Saint Helens, Oregon
ARS: W7ATR
AMA: 463622
"Uff Da!"


Re: Thank you, and a suggestion.

david Libby
 

Dan, you continue to be a champion for me. Thank you for allowing me the use of your little grey pram and more for introducing me to Andrew Linn. Obviously I have joined the forum at both of your recommendations. When I couldn't get to the water( I have lived in the desert for 25 years) the marlin spike kept my interest up. I like your suggestion and will volunteer as an assistant. I lack teaching skills. I tried that once and it didn't go well. To the messabouts I look forward to meeting with you over the next year.


Re: [MessaboutW] Cardboard Boat Race last Saturday

Gene Berry <meangenerok@...>
 


Dear Andrew Bolger,

Just say NAY to the naysayers.


Gene Berry


On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:14 AM, "'Frank Mabrey' frank@... [MessaboutW]" wrote:




Andrew, you have completely convinced me.  When I need a cardboard boat  because my honor is at stake I will consider NO ONE ELSE as my designer/builder.  When Newport comes skulking around seeking your services for next year, do not sell out cheap.  Sure they will sweet talk you with promises of total creative control, your name on the hull, and blah, blah, blah.  Do not be lightly persuaded.  When Russell Coutts retained the America's Cup for New Zealand in 2000 he held a team meeting and told everyone they needed to hold the team together for the next defense.  Within a month team Alinghi snatched him away with a million dollar offer.  If you must sell out, sell out big.



From: MessaboutW@... [mailto:MessaboutW@...]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 8:06 PM
To: Duckworks Forum; MessaboutW@...
Subject: [MessaboutW] Cardboard Boat Race last Saturday

 
A couple weeks ago, Bud Shoemake, the Port Manager for the Port of
Toledo (and the guy that makes the Toledo Community Boathouse possible)
came to me and asked if I'd make him a cardboard boat for the annual
race held during the Boatshow. I, of course, said "Sure." Bud had been
challenged by the Port Manager of the much larger Port of Newport, so
the Honor of Toledo was at stake.

At the time, there was a bunch of photos going around about a guy who
had made a birchbark canoe (can't find 'em now, sorry) and I thought
that'd be a nice shape. The first one didn't come out so well, but the
second one came out pretty nice. I kept it fairly light in construction,
so everyone who saw it said it would collapse - even though not a single
one of them had ever built a cardboard boat before. Theory theory
theory, until I said "Fine, reinforce it."

And Bob Larkin, builder of that Bolger Birdwatcher II you see sailing
around Oregon, did just that. Still, the peanut gallery complained.
Maybe they thought it needed to 'Round the Horn'? Fine - we added a
couple thwarts. Still, people complained. At that point, I just ignored
them.

When I saw the other entries in the race, I felt kind of bad. Our boat
was the only one with any thought given to hydrodynamics - everything
else - including the Port of Newport's boat - were shaped like
shoeboxes, if they had any shape at all.

Bud won the race - by an embarrassing 4 minutes (Port of Newport came in
second)

You can see a newspaper article here:
http://www.lincolncountydispatch.com/index.php/news/item/2922-newport-loses-county-seat-to-toledo-in-cardboard-boat-race-wager






Thank you, and a suggestion.

Dan
 

What a delightful weekend!  Thank you one and all for making me, my nephew Peyton, and my collection of boats welcome and entertained.  We had a great time.


Below, is a vestigial notion that I forwarded to the Port of Toledo:






Bud:

 

First, I’d like to thank you for a kindness, and second, make an offer for next year’s festival.  My name is Dan Rogers, and I just got home from what turned out to be a 1,200 mile land voyage to and from the Toledo Wooden Boat.  I arrived relatively early on Thursday, and had already gotten my boats launched and moored before nightfall that day.  By Friday, my 8 year old nephew—along on this long range adventure with me--had become a bit restive, and I was looking for stuff for him to do.  You took time from all the other things you had going at the moment, and got me paddles and life jackets so I could take him out in kayak.  It was a supremely teachable moment, and he went on to spend quite a bit of time out and about in one or another of the boat house’s boats.  As one who cut his own boating teeth at age eight, I’m elated that things came together for Peyton similarly.  Thank you.

 

Second.  As it turned out, I brought both a small tug-like creation and a small sailing dinghy for in-water display.  The motor boat got lots of attention, and was a pretty decent fulcrum for starting a wide range of discussion with visitors who came down to the floats for a closer inspection of the entered boats.  On Sunday, I began taking kids out for motor boat rides (it runs at about 20 knots, so we went out in the main channel for donut cutting, etc.).  And on both days, there were several adults whom I introduced to small boat sailing in the rag boat.  Some of my spontaneous demos of knot tying, and small boat handling seemed to be well-received.  Even a completely adlib sea story telling session delivered while standing in a pink pirogue alongside the float, attracted a growing audience—in a wide range of ages.  Those interchanges were fun, for me at least.  But, I think there is a bigger opportunity for making boats and boating a realtime affair with more of your attending public.

 

The trip home afforded quite a few hours, while at the wheel, for reflection.  Remarkably—to me anyway—on at least four separate occasions as far away as Albany, folks found us in restaurants, in parking lots, and even in a quiet neighborhood where I was attempting to correct a navigational blunder in Philomath with that long trailer in a narrow cul-de-sac, and was asked, “Are you coming from the Toledo show?”  Your effort is pretty damn famous!  And, I began wondering if there wasn’t a “next-level”.

 

Andy Linn’s ongoing effort to put almost anybody into a small boat is a thing of true beauty.  He does a masterful job of it; and to my mind, he provides the crux of the whole event that way.  I am suggesting a way to build upon that, and show the current and future generation of boat owners a thing or two about the finer points of vessel handling—especially power vessel handling.

 

Simply a notion, at this point.  But, I’m wondering if there wouldn’t be a place for a rudimentary hands-on boat handling and deck seamanship exhibit.  Instead of simply walking up and down the dock and admiring the boats, etc.  What-if, there was a small power boat available for teaching (mostly kids) how to get underway and return to a float properly?  Perhaps, simple maneuvers like a single or twin screw twist. Proper use of cleat hitches, bowlines, surging and checking, etc.?

 

My first impulse was to suggest you make your yard tug available.  I didn’t get the opportunity to discuss that with the vessel’s master.  However, she appears to be a good candidate for such a limited instructional mission.  Or, a purpose built or modified small craft with limited horsepower (electric) propulsion would be an excellent platform.  Especially one that lent itself to limited soloing.  And, yes, my own little tug would be reasonably capable for the mission if retro-fitted with electric motors and conventional rudders.  (I had the mods pretty well worked out mentally, before I was half way home.)  The platform is pretty easy to dream up, or find.

 

Instructors should be readily available, as well.  And, certainly, it’s never reasonable to offer a suggestion without offering to make it happen.  My nephew is already talking about “next year.”  And, God willing, I think coming back would be a grand thing to do.  If this notion sounds like something you’d like to offer; I have both navy craftmaster quals and 100-ton quals in my resume of boating creds.  I’ve been teaching folks how to splice and make bends since I was in the Boy Scouts, etc.  I can put a program together in just about no time.  Or, perhaps, there’s an old sea dog in your local area who is good with kids and can teach adults how to “put her alongside without a bump.”   The possibilities are pretty big.  The potential impact on some little boy or girl could be career and life altering.

 

Please let me know what you think.  And, thanks for a delightful weekend.

 

Dan Rogers

Diamond Lake, WA

509-447-2197

DanAshore@...  


Re: [MessaboutW] Cardboard Boat Race last Saturday

Frank E Mabrey
 

Andrew, you have completely convinced me.  When I need a cardboard boat  because my honor is at stake I will consider NO ONE ELSE as my designer/builder.  When Newport comes skulking around seeking your services for next year, do not sell out cheap.  Sure they will sweet talk you with promises of total creative control, your name on the hull, and blah, blah, blah.  Do not be lightly persuaded.  When Russell Coutts retained the America's Cup for New Zealand in 2000 he held a team meeting and told everyone they needed to hold the team together for the next defense.  Within a month team Alinghi snatched him away with a million dollar offer.  If you must sell out, sell out big.



From: MessaboutW@... [mailto:MessaboutW@...]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 8:06 PM
To: Duckworks Forum; MessaboutW@...
Subject: [MessaboutW] Cardboard Boat Race last Saturday

 

A couple weeks ago, Bud Shoemake, the Port Manager for the Port of
Toledo (and the guy that makes the Toledo Community Boathouse possible)
came to me and asked if I'd make him a cardboard boat for the annual
race held during the Boatshow. I, of course, said "Sure." Bud had been
challenged by the Port Manager of the much larger Port of Newport, so
the Honor of Toledo was at stake.

At the time, there was a bunch of photos going around about a guy who
had made a birchbark canoe (can't find 'em now, sorry) and I thought
that'd be a nice shape. The first one didn't come out so well, but the
second one came out pretty nice. I kept it fairly light in construction,
so everyone who saw it said it would collapse - even though not a single
one of them had ever built a cardboard boat before. Theory theory
theory, until I said "Fine, reinforce it."

And Bob Larkin, builder of that Bolger Birdwatcher II you see sailing
around Oregon, did just that. Still, the peanut gallery complained.
Maybe they thought it needed to 'Round the Horn'? Fine - we added a
couple thwarts. Still, people complained. At that point, I just ignored
them.

When I saw the other entries in the race, I felt kind of bad. Our boat
was the only one with any thought given to hydrodynamics - everything
else - including the Port of Newport's boat - were shaped like
shoeboxes, if they had any shape at all.

Bud won the race - by an embarrassing 4 minutes (Port of Newport came in
second)

You can see a newspaper article here:
http://www.lincolncountydispatch.com/index.php/news/item/2922-newport-loses-county-seat-to-toledo-in-cardboard-boat-race-wager


Cardboard Boat Race last Saturday

Andrew Linn
 

A couple weeks ago, Bud Shoemake, the Port Manager for the Port of Toledo (and the guy that makes the Toledo Community Boathouse possible) came to me and asked if I'd make him a cardboard boat for the annual race held during the Boatshow. I, of course, said "Sure." Bud had been challenged by the Port Manager of the much larger Port of Newport, so the Honor of Toledo was at stake.

At the time, there was a bunch of photos going around about a guy who had made a birchbark canoe (can't find 'em now, sorry) and I thought that'd be a nice shape. The first one didn't come out so well, but the second one came out pretty nice. I kept it fairly light in construction, so everyone who saw it said it would collapse - even though not a single one of them had ever built a cardboard boat before. Theory theory theory, until I said "Fine, reinforce it."

And Bob Larkin, builder of that Bolger Birdwatcher II you see sailing around Oregon, did just that. Still, the peanut gallery complained. Maybe they thought it needed to 'Round the Horn'? Fine - we added a couple thwarts. Still, people complained. At that point, I just ignored them.

When I saw the other entries in the race, I felt kind of bad. Our boat was the only one with any thought given to hydrodynamics - everything else - including the Port of Newport's boat - were shaped like shoeboxes, if they had any shape at all.

Bud won the race - by an embarrassing 4 minutes (Port of Newport came in second)

You can see a newspaper article here:
http://www.lincolncountydispatch.com/index.php/news/item/2922-newport-loses-county-seat-to-toledo-in-cardboard-boat-race-wager


Re: What adhesive?

Mark Albanese
 

I stuck rubber rocker panels back on with RTV.

Mark

On Aug 15, 2014 10:36 AM, "Kurt Herzog kpherzog@... [MessaboutW]" <MessaboutW@...> wrote:
 

Can someone recommend the best adhesive to secure rubber to
metal? I managed to tear the rubber cover off the end of my
truck bumper.

Thanks . . . Kurt
--
Kurt Herzog

Grants Pass, Oregon


Toldeo Saturday?

arbordg
 

The way my work schedule was shaping up... I didn't think I'd make it down to the show at all. I've made enough headway, though, that I'm considering coming down just for the day on Saturday.

Any Portland area Coots who'd like to ride with? Or anyone on the way who'd like to get picked up?Cheers,

David G

503-8sixo-316zero


What adhesive?

Kurt Herzog <kpherzog@...>
 

Can someone recommend the best adhesive to secure rubber to metal? I managed to tear the rubber cover off the end of my truck bumper.

Thanks . . . Kurt
--
Kurt Herzog

Grants Pass, Oregon


Re: [MessaboutW] Construction of the Tik-Tak-Two

Andrew Linn
 

I did not reach my goal. 9:30a to 12 noon: Cutting plywood, butt jointing. 2 to 3: Chime logs and cutting the hatch. 4:30 to 6: planing chine logs, attaching bottom to sides, laminating hatch cutout to the bottom.

I could go out and remove all the screws and fill the holes with toothpicks, then primer the interior, but I'm tired.

On 8/14/2014 11:58 AM, Andrew Linn alinn@andrewlinn.com [MessaboutW] wrote:

I'm taking plenty of pics - you'll be impressed.

On 8/14/2014 9:40 AM, Jim Young somersailing@gmail.com [MessaboutW] wrote:
Not one picture Andy Linn? You're keeping us in suspenders.


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Andrew Linn alinn@andrewlinn.com
<mailto:alinn@andrewlinn.com> [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Construction of the Tik-Tak-Two commences at 9:30a, Pacific time.
I will
have a paintable boat by mid afternoon. Sadly, I already ripped the
chines and stems yesterday, so that 20 minutes of work won't be
counted.




--
Jim Young,
mostly retired
Somers, MT

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Re: [MessaboutW] Construction of the Tik-Tak-Two

Andrew Linn
 

I'm taking plenty of pics - you'll be impressed.

On 8/14/2014 9:40 AM, Jim Young somersailing@gmail.com [MessaboutW] wrote:
Not one picture Andy Linn? You're keeping us in suspenders.


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Andrew Linn alinn@andrewlinn.com <mailto:alinn@andrewlinn.com> [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

Construction of the Tik-Tak-Two commences at 9:30a, Pacific time.
I will
have a paintable boat by mid afternoon. Sadly, I already ripped the
chines and stems yesterday, so that 20 minutes of work won't be
counted.




--
Jim Young,
mostly retired
Somers, MT
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Re: [MessaboutW] Construction of the Tik-Tak-Two

Jim Young
 

Not one picture Andy Linn? You're keeping us in suspenders.


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Andrew Linn alinn@... [MessaboutW] <MessaboutW@...> wrote:
 

Construction of the Tik-Tak-Two commences at 9:30a, Pacific time. I will
have a paintable boat by mid afternoon. Sadly, I already ripped the
chines and stems yesterday, so that 20 minutes of work won't be counted.




--
Jim Young,
mostly retired
Somers, MT


Construction of the Tik-Tak-Two

Andrew Linn
 

Construction of the Tik-Tak-Two commences at 9:30a, Pacific time. I will have a paintable boat by mid afternoon. Sadly, I already ripped the chines and stems yesterday, so that 20 minutes of work won't be counted.


Re: [MessaboutW] One For Andrew (but no explosives)

 

I thought so. <g>

On August 13, 2014 9:48:34 PM PDT, Andrew wrote:
I think I can make use of this. Not this weekend, but soon.
Hurl Wiffle Balls At 50 mph:

http://www.popsci.com/article/diy/hurl-wiffle-balls-50-mph—-leaf-blower
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought. (Lord Peter Wimsey)
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