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Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Lazy Weekend Canoe build

Andrew Linn
 

That boat looks almost exactly like the Lazy Weekend canoe. Does anyone have any details on mast placement and sail design? Steering looks like it is just an oarlock for the pivot point. This might be pretty cool - no leeboard and using the paddle as the rudder. If I can figure out an elegant solution for the mast step, she might be able to become the mythical "all-boat" paddled by 1 or 2, rowed by 1, or sailed.

On 3/25/2013 8:42, chastmal wrote:
West Mersea duck punts


Free Boat

balloujames <jrballou@...>
 

I've got an old boat on Portland CL which is now free, it's too far gone for me to fix. Believe it's probably a hanger, might look nice power washed and oiled and hung upside down. Hopefully I won't have to pay someone to take it away. Jim
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/boa/3699353833.html


windsufer sails

lou
 

Anyone need a sail? I have two used windsufer sails with battens. one large and one smaller one.
will sell them cheap.
541-504-0135


Re: Great Old Photos

MylesJ. Swift <mswift@...>
 

John,

 

In a roundabout way that reasoning is why I’m getting a new 12 MP camera instead of something with higher resolution.. I have a friend that has safari pictures he took with a 7MP camera that look amazing in 11x17 and 16x20 prints. In most cases a 12MP shot will make an 11x17 without interpolation. You get enough bloom on a video screen to blend things nicely. Those 4x5 frames were the most saturated ones I’ve seen on one of my a screens. Look at the latest higher end Fuji’s set to Velvia as the film emulation mode if you get a chance. The sample shots for the X100S have some of that same richness and warmth.

 

MylesJ


Re: Dexter Lake Season Opener Small Boat Messabout March 30

MylesJ. Swift <mswift@...>
 

John,

 

I was hoping you would bring Pearl. I’d like to see how she handles compared to Micro.

 

The park on the Hwy 58 side has fire rings but it is still listed as a day use area.

 

MylesJ


Re: Lazy Weekend Canoe build

chastmal <ctmalley@...>
 

I've been watching a lot of youtube video on West Mersea duck punts. They use an optimist sail rig, and rely on the hard chine for lateral resistance instead of leeboards or daggerboards. They are steered with an oar or paddle. Seems like the LWC, with it's chine logs, might work just as well or better. The duck punt also seems to be relatively easy to build using stitch and glue. (I say this having never built one)

Tom Malley

--- In MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Linn <alinn@...> wrote:

You just wait - I'm cogitating on a sail rig.

On 3/24/2013 6:54, John Kohnen wrote:
Good job, Andrew. Almost makes me want to build a Lazy Weekend Canoe
myself, but then I recall that I had a Sea Scout upbringing, not Boy
Scout. ;o)

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:34:53 -0700, Andrew wrote:

Pics and commentary are up from this week's session building Lazy
Weekend Canoes.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/2013/130323_lzywk/index.htm


New Sail rig and summer boat project

Cal <lendercal@...>
 

Yep, the motorcycle gets top billing, but some boat stuff is in the works. Ordered a new sail for my lapstrake sailboat today, from Neil Pryde, making the spars from aluminum tubing, and it will have to slide up the mast as a lateen rig. The stub mast will work to secure the colorful 83.6 sq. ft. sail. That replaces the Naples sabot 38 sq. footer, with enough more to be interesting.

The next hull will take the same sails will be a "MiniTri" of my own design. Solo cockpit trimaran, same sails as the ones above, just switch hulls. Center hull is a working kayak, with added outrigger setup. I think the Tri will be pretty exciting to sail, but that one will take a bit of time to finish yet. All wood, strip cedar deck.

See you at Dexter, and see what goodies I can smuggle in for the evenings pleasure. Off to packing, have fun. ------- Cal


Re: [MessaboutW] Lazy Weekend Canoe build

Phil Peck <phil@...>
 

I agree with you Andrew,  you have pickd a couple nice projects that took about the perfect amount of time to complete to get some boat building skills and then seeing a completion.  I also hope the town realizes that you have more than done your share towards helping community.  The boathouse is such a wonderful thing and I hope it continues to grow.  You seem to be having fun, so keep sanding and rowing.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MessaboutW] Lazy Weekend Canoe build

 

As summer gets nearer, I think we'll transition out of building and
start getting on the water more. We'll have three Lazy Weekend canoes to
loan out, the two Mollyhawks, and the other rowboats.

We've been doing long builds. Last winter we built a drift boat
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/building/clarkforkdrifter.htm

and the winter before that we built a pair of Mollyhawks.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/building/mollyhawks.htm

The problem - the whole problem - is local participation. Someone has to
be there, in the town, beating the bushes to flush the youths out. If
not kids, then young adults. If not young adults, then codgers. But
someone has to be there - and outsider who blows into town 2 days a week
just ain't working.

On 3/24/2013 9:25, Phil Peck wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
> I don't post often. I guess i am a lurker of this group. I really
> enjoy seeing the projects at the boathouse thru-out the whole building
> process. and if I was not 6 hours away I would be there to help and
> join in the fun. It would appear that Andrew is the glue that keeps it
> all going and it is nice to have a guy like that around, then again
> maybe he lives in a condo, and is getting free beer at pig feathers if
> he shows up with wood chips on his clothes, I do not know.
> Having watched the whole (family build ) play out in the posts. I had
> a few thoughts. It is obvious that trying to get kids or family
> involved seems to be a hard thing to do in this computer age. I found
> the whole idea of a family build misleading. Building a boat from
> start to finish in two days, gives the idea that building boats is as
> easy as changing ones cell phone cover. I would incourage you to find
> ways and projects that would attract those who want to mess with boats
> more on a steady basis. And enjoy the group build over time.
> As a person who lives in cattle country with a large shop full of
> tools I have found no others with any interest in building boats. So
> then again maybe building anything in general is a dying art. While I
> use the power tools to (get it done) I have often wanted to go back to
> hand tools just to maybe slow life down some. In the posts of the
> family build the use of power tools to (get it done) seemed to take
> away from the whole idea of a hands on project for kids. I remember as
> a kid that the better times were in a scrap pile of wood and some
> nails and a hammer, and usually a dull hand saw.
> You have a wonderful gathering place for group projects It would just
> be nice to see maybe more youthful weekly participants with an
> attitude that the good things in life take some time and effort.
> When again maybe that world I knew is gone the way of tech.
> Phil
>

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Re: [MessaboutW] Hey John, thanks --- and info. on Dexter Lake Messabout March 30

 

We've had dispensation to sleep on out boats tied up to the dock in the past, but camping per se is verboten at Lowell Park. Campfires after dark probably are too. If Keith the Fire Chief is listening maybe he can clear things up.

We do the Season Opener at Dexter because it's guaranteed to have enough water in it to float our boats, not because of its ideal facilities...

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:43:29 -0700, Cal wrote:

Ah, the word is yes !! I will plan on bringing something to this great event, maybe stay over night if others are planning that way. Can I bring wood for a fire, treats for coots, and are we planning a tent for evening festivities ?? Any early arrivals for camping out??
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
People who have tried it, tell me that a clear conscience makes
you very happy and contented; but a full stomach does the
business quite as well, and is cheaper, and more easily
obtained. (Jerome K. Jerome)


Re: [MessaboutW] Lazy Weekend Canoe build

Andrew Linn
 

As summer gets nearer, I think we'll transition out of building and start getting on the water more. We'll have three Lazy Weekend canoes to loan out, the two Mollyhawks, and the other rowboats.

We've been doing long builds. Last winter we built a drift boat
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/building/clarkforkdrifter.htm

and the winter before that we built a pair of Mollyhawks.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/building/mollyhawks.htm

The problem - the whole problem - is local participation. Someone has to be there, in the town, beating the bushes to flush the youths out. If not kids, then young adults. If not young adults, then codgers. But someone has to be there - and outsider who blows into town 2 days a week just ain't working.

On 3/24/2013 9:25, Phil Peck wrote:

Hi Guys,
I don't post often. I guess i am a lurker of this group. I really enjoy seeing the projects at the boathouse thru-out the whole building process. and if I was not 6 hours away I would be there to help and join in the fun. It would appear that Andrew is the glue that keeps it all going and it is nice to have a guy like that around, then again maybe he lives in a condo, and is getting free beer at pig feathers if he shows up with wood chips on his clothes, I do not know.
Having watched the whole (family build ) play out in the posts. I had a few thoughts. It is obvious that trying to get kids or family involved seems to be a hard thing to do in this computer age. I found the whole idea of a family build misleading. Building a boat from start to finish in two days, gives the idea that building boats is as easy as changing ones cell phone cover. I would incourage you to find ways and projects that would attract those who want to mess with boats more on a steady basis. And enjoy the group build over time.
As a person who lives in cattle country with a large shop full of tools I have found no others with any interest in building boats. So then again maybe building anything in general is a dying art. While I use the power tools to (get it done) I have often wanted to go back to hand tools just to maybe slow life down some. In the posts of the family build the use of power tools to (get it done) seemed to take away from the whole idea of a hands on project for kids. I remember as a kid that the better times were in a scrap pile of wood and some nails and a hammer, and usually a dull hand saw.
You have a wonderful gathering place for group projects It would just be nice to see maybe more youthful weekly participants with an attitude that the good things in life take some time and effort.
When again maybe that world I knew is gone the way of tech.
Phil


Re: [MessaboutW] Lazy Weekend Canoe build

Andrew Linn
 

You just wait - I'm cogitating on a sail rig.

On 3/24/2013 6:54, John Kohnen wrote:
Good job, Andrew. Almost makes me want to build a Lazy Weekend Canoe
myself, but then I recall that I had a Sea Scout upbringing, not Boy
Scout. ;o)

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:34:53 -0700, Andrew wrote:

Pics and commentary are up from this week's session building Lazy
Weekend Canoes.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/2013/130323_lzywk/index.htm


Re: [MessaboutW] Lazy Weekend Canoe build

 

Good job, Andrew. Almost makes me want to build a Lazy Weekend Canoe myself, but then I recall that I had a Sea Scout upbringing, not Boy Scout. ;o)

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:34:53 -0700, Andrew wrote:

Pics and commentary are up from this week's session building Lazy
Weekend Canoes.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/2013/130323_lzywk/index.htm
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
Man does not live by words alone, despite the fact that he
sometimes has to eat them. (Adlai Stevenson)


Re: [MessaboutW] Lazy Weekend Canoe build

 

It's been suggested that the Boathouse expand the definition of "family" for future boat builds. Charley says some of the disabled Vietnam veterans in his local vets group might sign up for a build. "Kids" and "family" are good buzzwords when asking for monetary support, but I'll bet "disabled veterans" works good too. ;o) Sitting here on the sidelines, mostly, I think getting people of all ages and sorts interested in boats, boating and boatbuilding is a Good Thing for the Boathouse to do. Participation has been heavily weighted towards old farts, fogies, codgers and Coots so far, so attracting younger people needs to be worked on, but not exclusively families and kids.

Where over there in Dirtland do you live, Phil? We've got a few Coots in the Bend/Redmond area.

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:25:08 -0700, Phil P wrote:

...
Having watched the whole (family build ) play out in the posts. I had a few thoughts. It is obvious that trying to get kids or family involved seems to be a hard thing to do in this computer age.
...
As a person who lives in cattle country with a large shop full of tools I have found no others with any interest in building boats.
...
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
The nations of the earth are mostly swayed by fear—fear of the
sort that a little cheap oratory turns easily to rage, hate, and
violence. (Joseph Conrad)


Hey John, thanks --- and info. on Dexter Lake Messabout March 30

Cal <lendercal@...>
 

Ah, the word is yes !! I will plan on bringing something to this great event, maybe stay over night if others are planning that way. Can I bring wood for a fire, treats for coots, and are we planning a tent for evening festivities ?? Any early arrivals for camping out??

Loong time no sea !! ------ Cal

--- In MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com, "John Kohnen" <jkohnen@...> wrote:

The Dexter Lake messabout is next weekend.

http://www.coots.org/mb/Dexter/

So far it looks like the weather will be nice.

--
John (jkohnen@...)
Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. (Samuel
Johnson)


Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Dexter Lake Season Opener Small Boat Messabout March 30

 

I'm planning on taking Pearl, so won't be boat camping. The Weatherman is promising temperatures in the 60s for the weekend! :o)

http://preview.tinyurl.com/DexterWX

On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:22:05 -0700, Dick M wrote:


Dexter>> Anyone else planning to boat camping at Dexter? I plan on staying on Sea-weed Friday and Saturday night's. Would kind of like to know.

http://www.coots.org/mb/Dexter/
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
A belief which leaves no place for doubt is not a belief; it is
a superstition. (Jose Bergamin)


Re: Dexter Lake Season Opener Small Boat Messabout March 30

Richard(Dick)
 

Dexter>> Anyone else planning to boat camping at Dexter? I plan on staying on Sea-weed Friday and Saturday night's. Would kind of like to know.

Dick

--- In MessaboutW@yahoogroups.com, "John Kohnen" <jkohnen@...> wrote:

The Dexter Lake messabout is next weekend.

http://www.coots.org/mb/Dexter/

So far it looks like the weather will be nice.

--
John (jkohnen@...)
Kindness is in our power, even when fondness is not. (Samuel
Johnson)


Re: [MessaboutW] Lazy Weekend Canoe build

Phil Peck <phil@...>
 

Hi Guys,
I don't post often. I guess i am a lurker of this group.  I really enjoy seeing the projects at the boathouse thru-out the whole building process. and if I was not 6 hours away I would be there to help and join in the fun. It would appear that Andrew is the glue that keeps it all going and it is nice to have a guy like that around, then again maybe he lives in a condo, and is getting free beer at pig feathers if he shows up with wood chips on his clothes, I do not know.
Having watched the whole (family build ) play out in the posts. I had a few thoughts.  It is obvious that trying to get kids or family involved seems to be a hard thing to do in this computer age. I found the whole idea of a family build misleading. Building a boat from start to finish in two days, gives the idea that building boats is as easy as changing ones cell phone cover.  I would incourage you to find ways and projects that would attract those who want to mess with boats more on a steady basis. And enjoy the group build over time.
As a person who lives in cattle country with a large shop full of tools I have found no others with any interest in building boats. So then again maybe building anything in general is a dying art.  While I use the power tools to (get it done) I have often wanted to go back to hand tools just to maybe slow life down some. In the posts of the family build the use of power tools to (get it done) seemed to take away from the whole idea of a hands on project for kids. I remember as a kid that the better times were in a scrap pile of wood and some nails and a hammer, and usually a dull hand saw.
You have a wonderful gathering place for group projects It would just be nice to see maybe more youthful weekly participants with an attitude that the good things in life take some time and effort.
When again maybe that world I knew is gone the way of tech.
 
Phil

 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:34 AM
Subject: [MessaboutW] Lazy Weekend Canoe build

 

Pics and commentary are up from this week's session building Lazy
Weekend Canoes.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/2013/130323_lzywk/index.htm

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Comparison of a Lazy Weekend Canoe ande a Storer Quick Canoe 155

Andrew Linn
 

I'd forgotten I'd done this testing. I made both a Lazy Weekend and Quick Canoe and did a side-by-side comparison. The results were easily predictable: The Quick Canoe is a better canoe, the Lazy Weekend is cheaper, slower, heavier, but holds more. With the 3rd seat, it is really just a play boat for public venues like the Boathouse.

http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/plans/lazyweekender/100918_comp/index.htm


Lazy Weekend Canoe build

Andrew Linn
 

Pics and commentary are up from this week's session building Lazy Weekend Canoes.
http://toledocommunityboathouse.com/2013/130323_lzywk/index.htm


Re: [MessaboutW] 2013 Depoe Bay Wooden Boat Show

 

We gather for dinner upstairs at the Spouting Horn Friday. This year I've surrendered to the Ol' Coots who like to eat dinner in the middle of the afternoon (you know who your are <g>) and am suggesting that we go up to the Horn around 5:30.

Saturday there will be a reception for exhibitors at the Horn around 5:00 (I think), with free wine and snacks. Jack told me that I should admonish you NOT to try to make a meal of the snacks. We should consider them appetizers and plan on dinner afterwards.

Cal and La Verne host a desert get-together Friday or Saturday after dinner at their room at the Troller.

Sunday after the show some of the Show volunteers meet in the bar of the Horn to unwind. They don't mind a few Coots joining them.

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:40:11 -0700, John W wrote:

Got it. Any Coots gatherings around the fest Fri/Sat/Sun nights?
--
John (jkohnen@boat-links.com)
After all, all he did was string together a lot of old, well-
known quotations. (H. L. Mencken on Shakespeare)

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