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Messabout on Yaquina

mjbrown@...
 

A messabout on Yaquina Bay in the middle of July sounds good to
Maggie and me. As you suggest John, we can
launch at South Beach and use the beach by the Hatfield center.
However, let's leave it open for awhile and we'll look for other
spots along the Yaquina. Get back to you all soon.

Jack

PS: Pat Patteson: will you bring your upsidedown camper boat?

Re: [MessaboutW] Dorena Sail

Sandy Thoms <thoms@...>
 

I can't make either this weekend or the June 16th weekend. On the 16th I'll
be having a well-deserved overnight date with my wife at Edgefield, the beer
campus of Portland, the kids will be at the grandparents. I sure seem to
come up with excuses to not make a messabout.

I thought for a very informal messabout, some of us might a gathering at Sam
Bond's Garage in Eugene after work some eve with photos, books, and whatever
of boats and talk boats. Granted, half of this "huge" list we have lives in
locations not close to Eugene, where you can get some of those groovy
sandals. Also, it doesn't have to be a beer establishment, it could be a
park intown, or a coffee house. I could dig some photos out of messing
about I did last summer in Northeast California in a pretty remote area.

I should mention the "huge" list just jumped from 7 to 8 yesterday when I
signed my home email address up. I figured that I should get side-tracked
at home not work because, as John put it, "I find this list very
salubrious", Thanks for throwing a few good words at me, I needed to look
that one up. Keep'm coming.

Recruits: has anyone tried Scott Malvitch, or howbout Rich Covelly, the guy
I got the free boat from, he was at Depoe Bay, Scott Marble, the guy with
the little dog from Frashier, I'll bet he hates it when people say that.
Actually that list of exhibitors probably has a few good candidates. I
havent' found any problems with signing up on the evil yahoo, actually, I
have never seen a commercial email from them yet, I did uncheck the "send me
junkmail" box. I don't know how those guys make money. There's got to be
an underground or in-the-closet community of small boat enthusiasts in the
Willamette Valley. It seems like everwhere I go, someone is talking boats.
Probably because I do all the talking. I have no problems with opening it
up to the cyberworld. I don't know how much marketing you did for Dexter,
but it seems a few well-placed posters for a boat event and address for the
messabout group would pull a few in.

Yaquina sounds great, but what happened to the Critzler (spelling?) idea? I
heard from several troller types that there are a lot of wooden trollers
there that I might be able to get for cheap. That's a pretty small area on
the river, with limited wind, but the backswamps up the drainage just to the
south might have some good exploring.

-----Original Message-----
From: jhkohnen@... [mailto:jhkohnen@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:45 PM
To: MessaboutW@...
Subject: [MessaboutW] Dorena Sail


I'm going to try out my new old motorhome by parking it at Baker Bay park
on Dorena Lake. I'll be taking Pickle of course. I'm going up there
Thursday afternoon and will probably stay 'til Saturday (but maybe not). If
anyone wants to join me on the lake you know where to find me. This isn't
an "official" messabout.

--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
The denunciation of the young is a necessary part of the hygiene of older
people, and greatly assists the circulation of the blood.
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Dorena Sail

 

I'm going to try out my new old motorhome by parking it at Baker Bay park
on Dorena Lake. I'll be taking Pickle of course. I'm going up there
Thursday afternoon and will probably stay 'til Saturday (but maybe not). If
anyone wants to join me on the lake you know where to find me. This isn't
an "official" messabout.

--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
The denunciation of the young is a necessary part of the hygiene of older
people, and greatly assists the circulation of the blood.
<Logan Pearsall Smith>

This List

 

We haven't done very well recruiting new list members. I know the list is
only two weeks old, and we shouldn't get impatient, but some folks I've
personally asked haven't joined us. I suspect that some of them may be
leery of signing up with Yahoo. :o(

When I set up the list I made it so only members can read the messages and
post to the list. I was concerned that some of you might not want your
email addresses out where anybody could drop by and see them. But now I'm
wondering if it might be better if I opened the list up so anybody can read
the messages, without having to sign up with the evil Yahoo. I could also
open it up even more and allow anybody and their cousin to post messages to
the list, that might let in all kinds of garbage, but I could always change
it back if it doesn't work out.

What do you think?

--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
A paranoid is a man who knows a little of what's going on.
<William Burroughs>

Siuslaw River

 

A friend of mine wants to have a messabout in Florence during the Chowder
Festival in late September, possibly combined with an antique outboard
motor exhibition (we had one of those there last year). I've sailed in the
Siuslaw at Florence and it's nice, but you do have to pay attention to the
tides. If the tides are strong during the Chowder fest we could have a
motorboat (probably with an antique outboard engine) hovering around to tow
us back in case we get swept away. <g>

I ought to take up antique outboards, they look like a good way to get some
exercise; either pulling on the starter rope or rowing. ;O)

--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
I cannot help thinking that the people with motor boats miss a great deal.
If they would only keep to rowboats or canoes, and use oar or paddle...
they would get infinitely more benefit than by having their work done for
them by gasoline. <Theodore Roosevelt>

Re: [MessaboutW] Re: Yaquina Bay

 

So how about a messabout on Yaquina Bay in the middle of July? We can
launch at South Beach and use the beach by the Hatfield center (remembering
that oceans have tides <g>) or maybe Jack or John Thorpe can come up with
someplace on the bay that's even better.

Perhaps you can detect a pattern. <g> I'm encouraging us to have a
messabout about once a month.

On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:23:24 -0000, Pat wrote:
...
South Beach probably a good lauch for the Bay.
Ther is a nice "Beach" at the end of the road to the Marine
Science center. Somtimes too nice. Very shallow, and with tide,
boats could be left high and dry, or float away.
...
--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Nobody ought to wear a Greek fisherman's hat unless they meet two conditions:
1. He is a Greek
2. He is a Fisherman <Roy Blount Jr.>

Re: Yaquina Bay

antec007
 

I'm still gonna be cript up for at least another month,
but probably could make it to Newport.
Don't have GP-16 anywhere but in my mind, and dreams, but could
probably bring over old "Rapid Robert" or Boger Dory.

South Beach probably a good lauch for the Bay.
Ther is a nice "Beach" at the end of the road to the Marine
Science center. Somtimes too nice. Very shallow, and with tide,
boats could be left high and dry, or float away.

Maybe Bryn could check a tide table and pick a good weekend without
much tidal change.

Pat Patteson


--- In MessaboutW@e..., jhkohnen@b... wrote:
Jack-

You and John Thorpe are our eyes and ears on that part of the
coast. Can
you scout around Yaquina Bay for a good messabout spot? Ideally, a
messabout spot should include a nice place on shore for
standing/sitting
around talking about boats, as well as a place to use them.

The river up by Criteser (spelling?) Marina near Toledo looked quite
inviting the other day when I stopped there, but there was little
wind. A
nice sailing skiff lives there though, so maybe it's not so bad all
the
time. Criteser Marina is a very pleasant little mom & pop mooring,
with a
generally high grade clientelle of older fishing boats. I'll bet
arrangements could be made to have a messabout there. I don't know
where
the nearest launch ramp is though.

Alsea Bay has also been mentioned as a good messabout spot. Know
any good
spots there?

On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 06:34:27 -0000, Jack Brown wrote:
...
A messabout on the Yaquina sounds more peaceful; somtime this
summer we
should do it. We could put in up the river a bit, or launch at
South
Beach.

--
John <jkohnen@b...>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Missionaries, my Dear! Don't you realize that missionaries are
the divinely
provided food for destitute cannibals? Whenever they are on the
brink of
starvation, Heaven in its infinite mercy send them a nice plump
missionary.
<Oscar Wilde>

Yaquina Bay

ajonn2000@...
 

John,

I will contact Warren Jordan regarding possible sites in Alsea Bay.
As I mentioned to you, he and his family sail his "Footloose" in the
Bay and on the river, quite frequently. He should know some good
launching spots for a possible "messabout". Who knows, he may decide
to join our group. There is usually a pretty good breeze out in the
Bay.

John T.

Re: red vs. white oak, Depoe Bay and froing

jhkohnen@...
 

Pat-

If you look closely you can see that the log has been cut off below the
crown. I'll bet Sam Manning left the crown lying there in all its bushy
glory to emphasize that the log is newly cut and quite green.

Bryn or I could easily find footwear like that at the Saturday Market, in
fact, we could probably get the whole outfit there. <g>

On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 06:33:21 -0000, Pat Pateson wrote:
Nice illustration John. Pretty much shows it all. I think I would
cut the top off the tree first, but what do I know.
I think the log has to be very green. Like the same day it's
cut. A week might make it much harder.

I don't really think it's the tools that are important.
It's those sandels.
I think Bryn has a friend in Portland that could snag him a pair,
but you guys live in Eugene, I guess he could pick up a pair
in just about any store in town.
...
--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into jail;
for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned...
A man in jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company.
<Samuel Johnson>

Yaquina Bay

jhkohnen@...
 

Jack-

You and John Thorpe are our eyes and ears on that part of the coast. Can
you scout around Yaquina Bay for a good messabout spot? Ideally, a
messabout spot should include a nice place on shore for standing/sitting
around talking about boats, as well as a place to use them.

The river up by Criteser (spelling?) Marina near Toledo looked quite
inviting the other day when I stopped there, but there was little wind. A
nice sailing skiff lives there though, so maybe it's not so bad all the
time. Criteser Marina is a very pleasant little mom & pop mooring, with a
generally high grade clientelle of older fishing boats. I'll bet
arrangements could be made to have a messabout there. I don't know where
the nearest launch ramp is though.

Alsea Bay has also been mentioned as a good messabout spot. Know any good
spots there?

On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 06:34:27 -0000, Jack Brown wrote:
...
A messabout on the Yaquina sounds more peaceful; somtime this summer we
should do it. We could put in up the river a bit, or launch at South
Beach.
--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Missionaries, my Dear! Don't you realize that missionaries are the divinely
provided food for destitute cannibals? Whenever they are on the brink of
starvation, Heaven in its infinite mercy send them a nice plump missionary.
<Oscar Wilde>

Re: red vs. white oak, Depoe Bay and froing

antec007
 

Nice illustration John. Pretty much shows it all. I think I would
cut the top off the tree first, but what do I know.
I think the log has to be very green. Like the same day it's
cut. A week might make it much harder.

I don't really think it's the tools that are important.
It's those sandels.
I think Bryn has a friend in Portland that could snag him a pair,
but you guys live in Eugene, I guess he could pick up a pair
in just about any store in town.

Still haven't heard back from my "Bow" guy, but that looks like
the technique.
Split is better than sawn, and Red Oak is not good. and 6' shouldn't
be too long to split.
I've got a Fro somewhere I don't use on a daily basis. Maybe I could
mail it to him.


--- In MessaboutW@e..., jhkohnen@b... wrote:
The Vikings split the planks of their longships from oak logs. They
started
the split at the end of the log with a froe, then used wedges to
run it
down the length of the log. Then they used adzes to square up the
planks.
I'll put an illustration showing the method into the files section.

Oregon White Oak oughta work just fine for steamed ribs. I'll bet
most of
the old Northwest fishing boats with steamed ribs used it. I can't
imagine
the builders shipping in green Eastern White Oak for ribs (or
anything
else) when OWO was so handy. That hardwood mill in Roseburg can
probably
get Bryn OWO without any problems.

On Thu, 31 May 2001 17:51:46 -0000, Pat Patteson wrote:
...
I have not personally tried to split a 6' white oak log, but
I have a friend that makes Wooden Bows (like bow and arrows).
He works with all kind of native green woods and I am pretty
sure he would know how to do it, if anyone does. A lost art.
...

--
John <jkohnen@b...>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Self respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is
suspicious.
<H. L. Mencken>

Dorena Messabout

 

How about a Messabout on Dorena Lake, at Baker Bay state park, on June 16,
and optionally the 17th if anybody wants to stay over. Well, _somebody_ had
to throw something definite out for the next messabout! <g> Somebody else
do it next time...

--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
I Can't take a well-tanned person seriously. <Cleveland Amory>

Re: [MessaboutW] Good book

Jack & Maggie Brown <mjbrown@...>
 

John: Yes I agree; too much for us too. Fun to think about it though. If Maggie and I do the Depoe Bay to Yaquina trip, we'll put the 4hp kicker in the well. A messabout on the Yaquina sounds more peaceful; somtime this summer we should do it. We could put in up the river a bit, or launch at South Beach.
Jack

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Dories

 

60-70 horsepower, that's a hotrod! I can remember when 35 hp. on a 16' boat
seemed to be plenty enough to do what people wanted to do, whether it was
skiing or racing across the lake. <sigh> I figure 25 on my Crestliner will
make it enough of a speedboat for me. I hate the idea of putting a diry old
2 stroke on it, but it's silly to spend big bucks on a new 4-stroke for an
old beater of a boat. I've thought about going with a new (or nearly)
2-stroke, at least they burn less oil. GI Joe's has a good price on a
Nissan 25 horse, but the one they have in the store is a long shaft. I
asked them to check on the availability of a short shaft, but they never
called me back. :o( After buying the old van I don't feel like spending so
much money right now anyway.

Scott's Swampscott dory is built to plans from Ian Oughtred! It's a
beautiful boat, but it seems a bit odd buying plans for such a distinctly
American boat from across the pond. Gardner collected and published a bunch
of nice dory (and dory-like) plans. An 18' Marblehead gunning dory lives on
Royal Avenue just off Highway 99, on the left. A fellow named Alexi built
it years ago (had its maiden voyage in Depoe Bay) and took it to Alaska
where he used it for sport fishing and general messing about. It looks
pretty well-used now. Alexi is a proper boat nut. While we were talking his
significant other came out to see what was up, he said "we're talking
boats" and she rolled her eyes knowingly and retreated. She'd seen that
plenty before! He's got an old BC Ferry lifeboat in the back yard that he's
going to fix up "one of these days".

On Wed, 30 May 2001 13:06:28 -0700, Bryn Thoms wrote:
Yes the runabout is outboard powered, I beleive the old add for the cruiser
has a 60 hp or maybe 70,
...
I got the urge
to look for a nice sailing dory plan from the Gradner book after I saw those
photos. Scott's got a nice looking boat, well they are all nice. The
swampsoctt or Gunning, or possibly the Alpha beach comer is on my list of
future boats.
...
--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes.
<Henry David Thoreau>

Re: [MessaboutW] Re: red vs. white oak, Depoe Bay and froing

 

The Vikings split the planks of their longships from oak logs. They started
the split at the end of the log with a froe, then used wedges to run it
down the length of the log. Then they used adzes to square up the planks.
I'll put an illustration showing the method into the files section.

Oregon White Oak oughta work just fine for steamed ribs. I'll bet most of
the old Northwest fishing boats with steamed ribs used it. I can't imagine
the builders shipping in green Eastern White Oak for ribs (or anything
else) when OWO was so handy. That hardwood mill in Roseburg can probably
get Bryn OWO without any problems.

On Thu, 31 May 2001 17:51:46 -0000, Pat Patteson wrote:
...
I have not personally tried to split a 6' white oak log, but
I have a friend that makes Wooden Bows (like bow and arrows).
He works with all kind of native green woods and I am pretty
sure he would know how to do it, if anyone does. A lost art.
...
--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Self respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious.
<H. L. Mencken>

Re: [MessaboutW] Dorena and Waldo

 

Bryn-

Glad you find the list salubrious. We need to get some more recruits
though, or the conversations will get stale. We should lure Scott Malvitch
into here, at least, he seems to have a lot of enthusiasm for messing
about.

The Bohemia District is very interesting, I used to spend a lot oftime up
there when I was younger. The roads hadn't got any better last time I was
up there, so a messabout field trip should probably be optional for those
without a sturdy pickup.

Waldo is a great place for a messabout, but the mosquitoes are hungry and
plentiful right now up there! That'd be a good choice for August to
October.

When should we have a messabout on Dorena?

On Thu, 31 May 2001 09:47:13 -0700, Bryn Thoms wrote:
...
Hey, John, this list serve is exactly what I needed to stray from work.
Good job. This is going to be like morning coffee and morning
constitutionals for me. A necessity
...
Dorena sounds great. If we made a weekend out of it, we might be able to
make a short field trip to the Bohemia mining district, that's not boats,
but it's good history. What about Waldo? There's usually lots of wind and
always limited powerboats due to the 10 mph restriction. Gottagetbacktowork
--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Nobody ought to wear a Greek fisherman's hat unless they meet two conditions:
1. He is a Greek
2. He is a Fisherman <Roy Blount Jr.>

Re: [MessaboutW] Good book

 

Jack-

An ocean row from Depoe Bay to Newport might be a bit too much excitement
for many of us. Maybe we'll have a messabout in Yaquina Bay and be there to
meet you. <g>

On Thu, 31 May 2001 05:35:09 -0000, Jack Brown wrote:
...
So plans for my wife and I
to row from Depoe Bay to Newport don't sound so hair raising after
all. Perhaps this could be the subject of a future messabout. It's
about a 14 mile trip.
...
--
John <@Jkohnen>
http://www.boat-links.com/
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what
you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. <Mark Twain>

Re: red vs. white oak, Depoe Bay and froing

antec007
 

The "Runaway Dory" race is already on the list of events for next
year. Jack Brown says it's a "Must Have."
Sure was the highlight of Sunday.
Ocean big. Ocean win. "Mother nature bats last."
Remind your fellow DEQ folks of that.

I have not personally tried to split a 6' white oak log, but
I have a friend that makes Wooden Bows (like bow and arrows).
He works with all kind of native green woods and I am pretty
sure he would know how to do it, if anyone does. A lost art.
I have a call in to him, and will let you know what I find out.
That one of the interesting things about building wooden boats.
There are a lot of "Lost arts" that were "common knowlege", that we
now have to relearn, and reteach to others. Is that "Progress"?
The Native Americans "just built a canoe" if they needed one.
No big deal. And a lot of the early "Pioneer folks"
"just built a boat". Cut a tree, split the planks and ribs,
and you have a boat. No big deal.

Try to learn how to live, and teach.

If the electic power goes out now, a lot of people would die.

Pat Patteson
Molalla, Oregon

--- In MessaboutW@e..., thoms.bryn@d... wrote:
Yes, maybe we should try to add the dory event to the list of
activities at

Re: [MessaboutW] Re: red vs. white oak, Depoe Bay and froing

thoms.bryn@...
 

Yes, maybe we should try to add the dory event to the list of activities at
Depoe Bay. I'll tell all a bit about this.

I left my dory on the boat ramp, pulled up high and dry but not tied up. I
went to get the truck at the sea wall and bring it around to the boat ramp.
While at the seawall someone said, "hey isn't that your dory floating away?"
"uh oh". Anyway Scott grabbed the Challenger and he and I went out to bring
her home. Well this time at the boat ramp I tied her up and while doing so
realized my initial mistake, a gentle swell topped my knee boots. Ding
dong!, yeah we're on the coast now Bryn, and it may not look like waves are
coming in, but they sure were. I guess that's what happens to valley boys
like me that don't get out to the coast much.

Hey, John, this list serve is exactly what I needed to stray from work.
Good job. This is going to be like morning coffee and morning
constitutionals for me. A necessity

Thanks, Toad, for your info on Red oak, verses white oak. I have noticed
the difference at least with glueing properties between the two. So have
you actually been able to fro oak and creat decent lengths for say, ribs
about 4 to 5' in length. That sounds like a tough job. I imagine there
would be a fair amount of planing and bandsawing to clean it up.

Dorena sounds great. If we made a weekend out of it, we might be able to
make a short field trip to the Bohemia mining district, that's not boats,
but it's good history. What about Waldo? There's usually lots of wind and
always limited powerboats due to the 10 mph restriction. Gottagetbacktowork

-----Original Message-----
From: pateson@... [mailto:pateson@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:13 PM
To: MessaboutW@...
Subject: [MessaboutW] Re: Roseburg Hardwood Supplier


Bryn,
Thanks for all the help at DePoe Bay. I felt so useless see you and
my son Chad carrying my (I think it's actually his now) Folbot up
that ramp in the rain. I used to do that stuff when I was your
age, but now relegated to carrying life jackets. The torch is
passed to the next generation. May you do better thatn we did.
Your Dory event is going to be a regular.

I would Not use Red Oak for anything in a boat.
I build furniture for a living, and work with Red Oak all the time.
The difference is that Red Oak has hollow cells. You can actually
take a piece and blow bubbles through it just like a straw. Try it
sometime, it's kind of interesting.
You can imagine what water would do to it, unless you plan on
saturating the whole thing with epoxy.
White Oak is solid, not hollow.

Don't know exactly where you can get it, but I think even Oregon
White Oak would be better than green Red.

Might try one of the local small small sawmills, or check with
someone that has a mobile diminsional mill.
Also fire wood places. Might be able to build a boat of firewood.
Just get to it befor it gets cuts to leangths, and take it to a local
mill, or even a cabinet shop that has a large bandsaw.
Or if the pieces are small enough, use a fro and if it is green
should be able to spit it, and it will bend much stronger and better
than sawn.
Natural grain. Not cut across the grain.
What kind of leanths and diminsions to you need. I'll look around
here and see what I can find. We have several local small small
mills that could cut you what you want.

Pat (Toad) Patteson
Molalla, Oregon
pateson@...


--- In MessaboutW@y..., thoms.bryn@d... wrote:
Yes the runabout is outboard powered, I beleive the old add for the
cruiser
has a 60 hp or maybe 70, which is a bit small for today's
standards. I
would like to have a Honda 4 stroke, 70 or something similar,
however it
will likely be more than I can afford and I'll have to go back to
wind and
human power. Speaking of, the photo's of Dexter are great. I got
the urge
to look for a nice sailing dory plan from the Gradner book after I
saw those
photos. Scott's got a nice looking boat, well they are all nice.
The
swampsoctt or Gunning, or possibly the Alpha beach comer is on my
list of
future boats.

When you mentioned a "land yacht" I imagined a sailing land yacht
like the
kind you find in the Alvord or Black Rock Desert. I have always
wanted to
build a wooden land yacht, gaff-rigged, and show up at one of the
land yacht
festivals with all the aluminum and fiberglass and high-tech gear.

Bytheway - Thanks Jack for the info on Hardwood. I haven't called
for
prices of green (red) oak yet, but I do know that at Cross-cut in
Eugene,
the price is $1.75 a board foot. Which is half the price of the
kiln-dried
oak, special order, though. I believe that is red oak and from my
limited
experience with boat construction, I think the white oak is
supposed to be
superior to the red for steam bending. We'll see.


-----Original Message-----
From: jhkohnen@b... [mailto:jhkohnen@b...]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:14 PM
To: MessaboutW@y...
Subject: Re: [MessaboutW] Roseburg Hardwood Supplier


Bryn-

Sounds like a good project. When you mentioned a free "cruiser" I
imagined
a big cabin cruiser or oceangoing sailboat! <g> A 16' runabout is a
nice,
manageable project.

I've got a confession to make too; I bought a motorboat myself last
year,
"for practical reasons" I told my GF, but she laughed. Actually,
motorboats
do have some utility even for a messing about sort of person. I got
mine
for going places far from the launch ramp (like much of Coos Bay),
or where
there's a lot of tide or current, or maybe chasing around taking
pictures.
I guess the need wasn't all that pressing, because I still haven't
got it
into the water. <g> The engine (Merc 250) started up with just a
few pulls
and sounded real good, but it didn't pump any water. It turns out
that old
Mercs' water pumps live way up in the leg and require a special
tool for
extraction, and even with the tool you can't always get them out! :o
( So,
I'm looking for an OMC 25. The trouble is that I don't really _like_
motorboats much (except quite low powered ones), despite their
utility, so
I haven't been looking very hard. The boat is a 16' 1962 Crestliner;
aluminum and rough looking but with nice lines.

Good luck with your project! Is your runabout outboard powered?

On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:37:38 -0000, Bryn Thoms wrote:
...
I'll tell you a bit about this project, I'm pretty excited about
it
and I love talking boats. Also, John wanted to hear more about
this
project. I really got into banks dorys and other New England
style
dories and small craft in general that do not require a
combustion
engine for propulsion, so this project I'm doing is a bit not
like
me, but nonetheless, I still get excited about it. It is a
restoration/rennovation project of a 1960's Cruiser's Inc. 16'
runabout. I think it's the utility of the runabout that get's me
stoked....

--
John <jkohnen@b...>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Nobody ought to wear a Greek fisherman's hat unless they meet two
conditions:
1. He is a Greek
2. He is a Fisherman <Roy Blount Jr.>



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