Re: Victory

George Costakis

Yea, I was wondering the same. The video shows a good comparison in their behavior. Victory has a natural fore and aft rock and side to side roll response while the 47' seems forced. Victory does have a displacement hull and is a double-ender and the 47 is a planing hull with a wide stern. Still seems to be more to it.

On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 10:34:52 PM PST, Jove Lachman-Curl <jovelc87@...> wrote:

Great video, thanks for sharing.
I'm curious why the 52 seems to climb higher off a wave, and dive deeper, someone said less damped, but how does one damp a hull in as it crashes into a wave? ribs or chines might dive in less efficiently which would be damping I suppose. The 47 is a playing hull that is ribbed.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 8:26 PM George C via <> wrote:

The article that John linked in his original post gave the example of a failed generator resulting in losing the radar and navigation system during a rescue. Anyways, I'm sure there are much more systems on this boat then just the engine and steering.


On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 8:00:46 PM PST, Roger Padvorac <roger@...> wrote:

I'm ignoring most email for the time being, but wondered at the size 
and subject of this one.

Previously I hadn't paid attention to the difference between the 52' 
and 47' boats.

In short, the 47' boat is a wimp compared to the 52' boat.

You are right, they are amazing - the pictures in those Wikipedia 
articles says it all.

I'd be very surprised if this country builds a useful replacement for 
the 52' boats. The navy has a pretty poor track record for the last 

Every day I take a look at because its a reliable source of bad 
news that will affect my life (like efforts to cut Social Security). 
There are a surprising number of WA/OR articles there. I also read 
some of the compare and contrast opinion essays there.

Our culture has lost the competence of the mid 20th century - too many 
people stopped doing the hard thankless work of cultural stewardship 
and we've lost a lot of our cultural capital.

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The 47' boats started coming into service in 1997, and there are 227 
of them, so they will be around for a while.

You say the 52' boats are saved for the really difficult situations.

How often do the 47' boats turn out to be inadequate, and a 52' boat 
is used, and in what kinds of circumstances?

I've survived my adventures by paying attention to the fallback 
options, which is why I put some thought into this subject, once I 
took a look at it.

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After I thought a bit, I wondered, what do you mean by old?

Engines and steering gear can be rebuilt or replaced, and on a boat 
like this there isn't much else that is essential, expensive, and 
takes a lot of work to maintain.

Why don't they just replace the engines and steering gear?


Quoting John Kohnen <jkohnen@...>:

> Victory's my favorite CG boat too, with the other steel 52-footers 
> close behind. But they're Old. It's getting so it's hard to keep 
> them going, so Victory sits idle, waiting to be used only when her 
> capabilities are _really_ needed. I'll miss the 52s when they're 
> gone, but their replacements should have been ready years ago. 
> <sigh> I hope when the replacements for the 52-footers are finally 
> developed and built that they perform as well in the really awful 
> stuff as Victory, but I'll bet they won't have as much class as she 
> has.
> On 2/1/2021 1:25 PM, Case wrote:
>> My favorite CG boat ever. Pretty amazing boat.
>> I got to go for a short cruise on her across the bay once.
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> John <jkohnen@...>
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