Re: This Saturday: Sauvie's Island Circumnavigation Planning Meeting

Myles Twete



State of Oregon Attorney General gave this in request for its interpretations on Navigable Waterways in 2005:


Even if the bed of a waterway is privately owned, the waterway may be used by the public for certain purposes if it meets the state test of navigable-for-public-use (the “public use doctrine.”) A waterway is navigable-for-public-use if it has the capacity, in terms of length, width and depth, to enable boats to make successful progress through its waters. If a privately owned waterway meets this test, the lawful public uses generally include navigation, commerce or recreation. Recreation in this case includes use of small boats for pleasure and fishing, as well as swimming. The public may use the land adjacent to a waterway that is navigable-for-public use as long as the use of the adjacent land is “necessary” to the lawful use of the waterway.”


So ignore all No Trespassing signs going into that bay.

They should be ordered to remove those signs…otoh, I haven’t motored into that bay in at least a couple years now, so it’s possible they’ve been removed, but I doubt it.  Asserting that one is trespassing for entering a space that is legal to enter and requires no membership is more than just rude, it should be illegal.


From: [] On Behalf Of Myles Twete
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2020 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] This Saturday: Sauvie's Island Circumnavigation Planning Meeting


I suggest the circumnav coots gunkhole in that very beautiful cove one night just to piss off any PYC members thinking they own the navigable waterway of that bay.  Assholes.


From: [] On Behalf Of Richard Green
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [oregoncoots] This Saturday: Sauvie's Island Circumnavigation Planning Meeting


Received a kindly note from the PYC manager re: the Willow Bar.  Summed up in two words: no dice.  They have a strict policy of ’not sharing’ (my words) but was a very pleasant rejection and he wished luck and enjoyment to the group.


Never know ’til you ask.




On Sep 4, 2020, at 3:01 PM, Richard Green <chaos5@...> wrote:


I have, it appears, sent an email to the manager of the PYC to inquire.  I’ll keep you posted should I hear back.




On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Richard Green <chaos5@...> wrote:


Ah, there it is.  I don’t know if the International Association of the Grand Coots and Yacht Club could get reciprocal privileges in there for a night or not.   


On Sep 4, 2020, at 2:29 PM, John Kohnen <jkohnen@...> wrote:

I answered my own question: "Just 12 miles downstream from the clubhouse and moorage and inside a bay on the east side of beautiful Sauvie Island, +45° 44' 59", -122° 46' 17", lies the club’s member-only Willow Bar Outstation."

I hate it when boating facilities open to the public get turned into "gated communities". <sigh>

John <jkohnen@...>
The latter part of a wise man's life is taken up in curing the follies, prejudices, and false opinions he had contracted in the former. (Jonathan Swift)

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