Date
1 - 20 of 29
Why Does This Happen?
Greetings to Janome Users---
I am making a couple of pillowcases with the same embroidery design. The first one finished perfectly, then I put my machine away for a couple of days. Today, I hooped the second project with the same type of fabric and stabilizer. The design starts to stitch out some lettering, and I can see some of the white bobbin thread showing on top. That did not happen on the first pillowcase.I am using a brand new needle for the second pillowcase, as the prior needle had been used for 3-4 small-ish stitchouts. I made no adjustments to the machine between the projects and I am using the exact same spools of thread for the second as the first one. While stitching, I will hear a faint "glitch" sound, then some thread boo boo on the top and a small bunch of thread is jumbled up underneath. Not like one of those massive birdnests, but a small, manageable "blob". The top thread does not break and the machine would keep stitching both top and bottom threads if I did not stop it as soon as I would hear that small "glitch" noise. Not a metal-to-metal noise, just a thread noise, if you can imagine that. No one has access to my machine, so I know no adjustments were made while I did not use the machine. The thread tension is showing as AUTO 4, same as the first one. I have re-threaded top and bottom threads. Bobbin is a new Janome bobbin wound with the same thread as the last bobbin. The planets all seem to be properly aligned. These pillowcases are meant to be gifts, so I would like to know how to remedy this VERY FRUSTRATING problem. Everything is the same, except the result!! Please advise!! I will mention that this machine is the E500 Embroidery only model.
Kathy Strabel Washougal WA
I am making a couple of pillowcases with the same embroidery design. The first one finished perfectly, then I put my machine away for a couple of days. Today, I hooped the second project with the same type of fabric and stabilizer. The design starts to stitch out some lettering, and I can see some of the white bobbin thread showing on top. That did not happen on the first pillowcase.I am using a brand new needle for the second pillowcase, as the prior needle had been used for 3-4 small-ish stitchouts. I made no adjustments to the machine between the projects and I am using the exact same spools of thread for the second as the first one. While stitching, I will hear a faint "glitch" sound, then some thread boo boo on the top and a small bunch of thread is jumbled up underneath. Not like one of those massive birdnests, but a small, manageable "blob". The top thread does not break and the machine would keep stitching both top and bottom threads if I did not stop it as soon as I would hear that small "glitch" noise. Not a metal-to-metal noise, just a thread noise, if you can imagine that. No one has access to my machine, so I know no adjustments were made while I did not use the machine. The thread tension is showing as AUTO 4, same as the first one. I have re-threaded top and bottom threads. Bobbin is a new Janome bobbin wound with the same thread as the last bobbin. The planets all seem to be properly aligned. These pillowcases are meant to be gifts, so I would like to know how to remedy this VERY FRUSTRATING problem. Everything is the same, except the result!! Please advise!! I will mention that this machine is the E500 Embroidery only model.
Kathy Strabel Washougal WA
Cat - N
Kathy, I have heard the thread cutter 'click...whirr...click...whirr' trying to cut the thread and everything is fine after but I think sometimes, everything isn't fine, even though the thread does eventually cut. But there are those times when thread or stitching goes wonky, and sometimes I actually see the tiniest piece of thread up under the needle plate. Not saying that is the issue, but I have been watching that on my 15000. The last time I had the 'tiny piece of thread' I 'think' was when I was doing some quilting and using the straight stitch that auto-locks at beginning and end of the stitching line...which absolutely uses the automatic thread cutter.
- Cat
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Strabel <ksbappa'@gmail.com>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2023 7:36 pm
Subject: [onlinesewing-janome] Why Does This Happen?
From: Kathy Strabel <ksbappa'@gmail.com>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2023 7:36 pm
Subject: [onlinesewing-janome] Why Does This Happen?
Greetings to Janome Users---
I am making a couple of pillowcases with the same embroidery design. The first one finished perfectly, then I put my machine away for a couple of days. Today, I hooped the second project with the same type of fabric and stabilizer. The design starts to stitch out some lettering, and I can see some of the white bobbin thread showing on top. That did not happen on the first pillowcase.I am using a brand new needle for the second pillowcase, as the prior needle had been used for 3-4 small-ish stitchouts. I made no adjustments to the machine between the projects and I am using the exact same spools of thread for the second as the first one. While stitching, I will hear a faint "glitch" sound, then some thread boo boo on the top and a small bunch of thread is jumbled up underneath. Not like one of those massive birdnests, but a small, manageable "blob". The top thread does not break and the machine would keep stitching both top and bottom threads if I did not stop it as soon as I would hear that small "glitch" noise. Not a metal-to-metal noise, just a thread noise, if you can imagine that. No one has access to my machine, so I know no adjustments were made while I did not use the machine. The thread tension is showing as AUTO 4, same as the first one. I have re-threaded top and bottom threads. Bobbin is a new Janome bobbin wound with the same thread as the last bobbin. The planets all seem to be properly aligned. These pillowcases are meant to be gifts, so I would like to know how to remedy this VERY FRUSTRATING problem. Everything is the same, except the result!! Please advise!!
Kathy Strabel Washougal WA
I am making a couple of pillowcases with the same embroidery design. The first one finished perfectly, then I put my machine away for a couple of days. Today, I hooped the second project with the same type of fabric and stabilizer. The design starts to stitch out some lettering, and I can see some of the white bobbin thread showing on top. That did not happen on the first pillowcase.I am using a brand new needle for the second pillowcase, as the prior needle had been used for 3-4 small-ish stitchouts. I made no adjustments to the machine between the projects and I am using the exact same spools of thread for the second as the first one. While stitching, I will hear a faint "glitch" sound, then some thread boo boo on the top and a small bunch of thread is jumbled up underneath. Not like one of those massive birdnests, but a small, manageable "blob". The top thread does not break and the machine would keep stitching both top and bottom threads if I did not stop it as soon as I would hear that small "glitch" noise. Not a metal-to-metal noise, just a thread noise, if you can imagine that. No one has access to my machine, so I know no adjustments were made while I did not use the machine. The thread tension is showing as AUTO 4, same as the first one. I have re-threaded top and bottom threads. Bobbin is a new Janome bobbin wound with the same thread as the last bobbin. The planets all seem to be properly aligned. These pillowcases are meant to be gifts, so I would like to know how to remedy this VERY FRUSTRATING problem. Everything is the same, except the result!! Please advise!!
Kathy Strabel Washougal WA
Pixey
Kathy,
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When you hear the glitch noise and stop the machine, open the side and make sure the thread is still in the take up lever and isn’t slipping in and out of it. Also, I would try a different needle from a different pack. It may have a slight burr on it that is hanging up the thread.
Pixey
On Feb 6, 2023, at 9:04 PM, Kathy Strabel <ksbappa@...> wrote:
Greetings to Janome Users---
I am making a couple of pillowcases with the same embroidery design. The first one finished perfectly, then I put my machine away for a couple of days. Today, I hooped the second project with the same type of fabric and stabilizer. The design starts to stitch out some lettering, and I can see some of the white bobbin thread showing on top. That did not happen on the first pillowcase.I am using a brand new needle for the second pillowcase, as the prior needle had been used for 3-4 small-ish stitchouts. I made no adjustments to the machine between the projects and I am using the exact same spools of thread for the second as the first one. While stitching, I will hear a faint "glitch" sound, then some thread boo boo on the top and a small bunch of thread is jumbled up underneath. Not like one of those massive birdnests, but a small, manageable "blob". The top thread does not break and the machine would keep stitching both top and bottom threads if I did not stop it as soon as I would hear that small "glitch" noise. Not a metal-to-metal noise, just a thread noise, if you can imagine that. No one has access to my machine, so I know no adjustments were made while I did not use the machine. The thread tension is showing as AUTO 4, same as the first one. I have re-threaded top and bottom threads. Bobbin is a new Janome bobbin wound with the same thread as the last bobbin. The planets all seem to be properly aligned. These pillowcases are meant to be gifts, so I would like to know how to remedy this VERY FRUSTRATING problem. Everything is the same, except the result!! Please advise!!
Kathy Strabel Washougal WA
I had a tension problem once (sounds similar to your problem) that I could not get corrected on my own, or so I thought. I finally took it to my dealer and the technician found a TINY bit of thread in one of the tension discs. You might try the old dental floss trick of flossing the thread path and see if that helps.
Kathy Strabel
To the folks who have made suggestions re: my recent thread problems when duplicating the exact same elements on a project:
I have tried each and every one of the suggestions, to no avail. I just do not understand why this is happening when I am doing the EXACT same things that brought me very satisfactory results just a couple days ago. I am still getting bobbin thread showing on the top. This last time, I added one of those teflon bobbin washers but it made no difference. When I add the bobbin to the machine (in the proper direction, thread coming off from right to left, as shown on the clear plastic bobbin cover in the throat plate, as usual--that was never the problem here...). Then pull the bobbin thread around the light gray "finger" and give it a tug to cut it off. I move the handwheel to bring up the bobbin thread. When I pull on the bobbin thread, it does not have much resistance. I think that is the problem here, but it just does not want to get fixed!!?? I have always been told that the bobbin thread should have a lot of tension, and that it is normal to see a fair amount of the top thread on the reverse of the design. I am using genuine Janome bobbins with the J impressed in the shaft of the bobbin, and either BottomLine or genuine Janome bobbin thread 90 wt. The bobbin holder has the red marking, which is the exact same bobbin holder that I have used for at least 2 years now without any trouble. I dread having to take it in for a service as the lead times are ridiculous and I worry about my machine being out of my house for weeks at a time. Let's just say I have seen the workroom and they have a LOT of machines strewn all over the place ; it looks very chaotic there.
Does anyone else have any other suggestions---I am about ready to call a psychic for advice!!!! (not really......but I am frustrated like crazy here....
Any advice appreciated.
I have tried each and every one of the suggestions, to no avail. I just do not understand why this is happening when I am doing the EXACT same things that brought me very satisfactory results just a couple days ago. I am still getting bobbin thread showing on the top. This last time, I added one of those teflon bobbin washers but it made no difference. When I add the bobbin to the machine (in the proper direction, thread coming off from right to left, as shown on the clear plastic bobbin cover in the throat plate, as usual--that was never the problem here...). Then pull the bobbin thread around the light gray "finger" and give it a tug to cut it off. I move the handwheel to bring up the bobbin thread. When I pull on the bobbin thread, it does not have much resistance. I think that is the problem here, but it just does not want to get fixed!!?? I have always been told that the bobbin thread should have a lot of tension, and that it is normal to see a fair amount of the top thread on the reverse of the design. I am using genuine Janome bobbins with the J impressed in the shaft of the bobbin, and either BottomLine or genuine Janome bobbin thread 90 wt. The bobbin holder has the red marking, which is the exact same bobbin holder that I have used for at least 2 years now without any trouble. I dread having to take it in for a service as the lead times are ridiculous and I worry about my machine being out of my house for weeks at a time. Let's just say I have seen the workroom and they have a LOT of machines strewn all over the place ; it looks very chaotic there.
Does anyone else have any other suggestions---I am about ready to call a psychic for advice!!!! (not really......but I am frustrated like crazy here....
Any advice appreciated.
Kathy Strabel
Janome Folks-----Yayyy!!! It appears I have solved the thread issue on my 500e. After finding that the bobbin thread had very little tension on it, I changed out the bobbin case with the red dot for the one with the yellow dot. I know, I know......I believe the yellow-dot one is specifically for embroidery, but for me, the red dot one worked very well for the several years that I have had the machine and used almost daily, at least weekly. I also have had much better results using Topstitch or Metallic needles with my regular poly (Floriani 40 wt mostly)_ top threads instead of designated embroidery needles. You know what they say...."Find what works for you and stick with it!" I assume that the type of design, the stabilizer and fabrics plus all the other elements of embroidery that I choose just work better that way.
Happy (now) stitching and thanks to all that answered.
Kathy Strabel
Happy (now) stitching and thanks to all that answered.
Kathy Strabel
Cat - N
Kathy, you mentioned using a "red" bobbin holder with "90" wt bobbin thread, so I was wondering what weight your top thread is. Are you using 40 wt embroidery thread or something else on top, with 90 wt in the red bobbin holder? Have you tried the yellow dot bobbin holder?
I have a 15000 and I use Janome prewound bobbins, which are prewound with Robison-Anton bobbin thread...which I 'understood' to be 80 wt...with 40 wt embroidery thread.
- Cat (FL)
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Strabel <ksbappa@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2023 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Why Does This Happen?
From: Kathy Strabel <ksbappa@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2023 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Why Does This Happen?
To the folks who have made suggestions re: my recent thread problems when duplicating the exact same elements on a project:
I have tried each and every one of the suggestions, to no avail. I just do not understand why this is happening when I am doing the EXACT same things that brought me very satisfactory results just a couple days ago. I am still getting bobbin thread showing on the top. This last time, I added one of those teflon bobbin washers but it made no difference. When I add the bobbin to the machine (in the proper direction, thread coming off from right to left, as shown on the clear plastic bobbin cover in the throat plate, as usual--that was never the problem here...). Then pull the bobbin thread around the light gray "finger" and give it a tug to cut it off. I move the handwheel to bring up the bobbin thread. When I pull on the bobbin thread, it does not have much resistance. I think that is the problem here, but it just does not want to get fixed!!?? I have always been told that the bobbin thread should have a lot of tension, and that it is normal to see a fair amount of the top thread on the reverse of the design. I am using genuine Janome bobbins with the J impressed in the shaft of the bobbin, and either BottomLine or genuine Janome bobbin thread 90 wt. The bobbin holder has the red marking, which is the exact same bobbin holder that I have used for at least 2 years now without any trouble. I dread having to take it in for a service as the lead times are ridiculous and I worry about my machine being out of my house for weeks at a time. Let's just say I have seen the workroom and they have a LOT of machines strewn all over the place ; it looks very chaotic there.
Does anyone else have any other suggestions---I am about ready to call a psychic for advice!!!! (not really......but I am frustrated like crazy here....
Any advice appreciated.
I have tried each and every one of the suggestions, to no avail. I just do not understand why this is happening when I am doing the EXACT same things that brought me very satisfactory results just a couple days ago. I am still getting bobbin thread showing on the top. This last time, I added one of those teflon bobbin washers but it made no difference. When I add the bobbin to the machine (in the proper direction, thread coming off from right to left, as shown on the clear plastic bobbin cover in the throat plate, as usual--that was never the problem here...). Then pull the bobbin thread around the light gray "finger" and give it a tug to cut it off. I move the handwheel to bring up the bobbin thread. When I pull on the bobbin thread, it does not have much resistance. I think that is the problem here, but it just does not want to get fixed!!?? I have always been told that the bobbin thread should have a lot of tension, and that it is normal to see a fair amount of the top thread on the reverse of the design. I am using genuine Janome bobbins with the J impressed in the shaft of the bobbin, and either BottomLine or genuine Janome bobbin thread 90 wt. The bobbin holder has the red marking, which is the exact same bobbin holder that I have used for at least 2 years now without any trouble. I dread having to take it in for a service as the lead times are ridiculous and I worry about my machine being out of my house for weeks at a time. Let's just say I have seen the workroom and they have a LOT of machines strewn all over the place ; it looks very chaotic there.
Does anyone else have any other suggestions---I am about ready to call a psychic for advice!!!! (not really......but I am frustrated like crazy here....
Any advice appreciated.
Fiona Taylor-Williams
So happy your issue is fixed I know how frustrating it can be. Happy sewing Kathy!
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On Feb 9, 2023, at 7:33 PM, Kathy Strabel <ksbappa@...> wrote:
Janome Folks-----Yayyy!!! It appears I have solved the thread issue on my 500e. After finding that the bobbin thread had very little tension on it, I changed out the bobbin case with the red dot for the one with the yellow dot. I know, I know......I believe the yellow-dot one is specifically for embroidery, but for me, the red dot one worked very well for the several years that I have had the machine and used almost daily, at least weekly. I also have had much better results using Topstitch or Metallic needles with my regular poly (Floriani 40 wt mostly)_ top threads instead of designated embroidery needles. You know what they say...."Find what works for you and stick with it!" I assume that the type of design, the stabilizer and fabrics plus all the other elements of embroidery that I choose just work better that way.
Happy (now) stitching and thanks to all that answered.
Kathy Strabel
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When you look at the bobbin thread, and it’s threaded under and through the the grey thread path to the left of the bobbin, is it fed into the silver tension bar at the left edge of the case? When you pull the bobbing thread up through the plate is it
laying over the bobbin case or retained in the silver tension bar. When I’m sewing occasionally after using the cutter, the bobbin thread pulls out of the tension bar and just lays on th the bobbin.
On 10 Feb 2023, at 00:51, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:
Kathy, you mentioned using a "red" bobbin holder with "90" wt bobbin thread, so I was wondering what weight your top thread is. Are you using 40 wt embroidery thread or something else on top, with 90 wt in the red bobbin holder? Have you tried the yellow dot bobbin holder?
I have a 15000 and I use Janome prewound bobbins, which are prewound with Robison-Anton bobbin thread...which I 'understood' to be 80 wt...with 40 wt embroidery thread.
- Cat (FL)
-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Strabel <ksbappa@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2023 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Why Does This Happen?
To the folks who have made suggestions re: my recent thread problems when duplicating the exact same elements on a project:
I have tried each and every one of the suggestions, to no avail. I just do not understand why this is happening when I am doing the EXACT same things that brought me very satisfactory results just a couple days ago. I am still getting bobbin thread showing on the top. This last time, I added one of those teflon bobbin washers but it made no difference. When I add the bobbin to the machine (in the proper direction, thread coming off from right to left, as shown on the clear plastic bobbin cover in the throat plate, as usual--that was never the problem here...). Then pull the bobbin thread around the light gray "finger" and give it a tug to cut it off. I move the handwheel to bring up the bobbin thread. When I pull on the bobbin thread, it does not have much resistance. I think that is the problem here, but it just does not want to get fixed!!?? I have always been told that the bobbin thread should have a lot of tension, and that it is normal to see a fair amount of the top thread on the reverse of the design. I am using genuine Janome bobbins with the J impressed in the shaft of the bobbin, and either BottomLine or genuine Janome bobbin thread 90 wt. The bobbin holder has the red marking, which is the exact same bobbin holder that I have used for at least 2 years now without any trouble. I dread having to take it in for a service as the lead times are ridiculous and I worry about my machine being out of my house for weeks at a time. Let's just say I have seen the workroom and they have a LOT of machines strewn all over the place ; it looks very chaotic there.
Does anyone else have any other suggestions---I am about ready to call a psychic for advice!!!! (not really......but I am frustrated like crazy here....
Any advice appreciated.
Kathy Strabel
Cat: Thank you---I have not experienced the bobbin thread coming out of the silver piece and laying on top of the bobbin itself. I am using the same thread combination as you--90 wt bobbin thread, 40 wt Floriani top thread. Next time you are on the Group website, you will see my "Eureka" moment. I switched out the red bobbin holder for the yellow dot holder and the issue is solved. I have no idea why the red dot holder "changed its mind" and stopped working all of a sudden. But at least I am no longer getting the bobbin thread on top. I was able to stitch out a perfect sample yesterday with all satin stitched lettering. Thanks for your input!! This is a great, helpful Group!!!
Have a good one!
Kathy Strabel
Kathy Strabel
This is not actually a surprise. If you examine the yellow dot case closely (maybe magnified) you will likely see a blob of lint behind the spring that supplies tension. Bobbin thread is made to be cheap, and can be rather linty. Bits of it that get shaved off while stitching will build up, forcing the spring out and reducing bobbin tension. A very fine needle or pin usually works to pick out the lint and restore the case to operation. This was so common that I included it in all of my routine service of machines.
Cat - N
That’s great, Kathy! Glad you got it resolved. I can’t use the red dot case with the Janome prewounds…only with matching threads top and bottom.
The tiny thread thing I have seen on my 15000 recently…and I find them just barely sticking out from under the needle plate…but I’ve seen it on my Kenmore too…several years ago at a BOM class. I couldn’t find it then and borrowed a machine for the class from the dealer, which made a horrible block it didn’t even have a thread spool…I ran the thread from my Kenmore thread spool so I could sew…lol) and I had to purchase a duplicate kit and remake it at home during the week anyway.
I now have a very soft brush, much like a makeup brush for blush but made by a sewing equipment company (Martelli). It does a decent job of flushing out tiny pieces and minuscule lint the fabulous Janome brush doesn’t get.
Typos courtesy of autocorrect.
Patricia Ward
That is interesting about the bobbin case uses..... When I use Janome embroidery prewounds, I have to use the red case. If I use the yellow dot, my bobbin thread shows on top but I use it when I use 40 wt embroidery thread if doing FSL lace with colors.
And, Cat, there is a company that sells cardboard side prewounds in boxes of 144--- just an aside. But the Janome boxes are 108.
Pat
That’s great, Kathy! Glad you got it resolved. I can’t use the red dot case with the Janome prewounds…only with matching threads top and bottom.The tiny thread thing I have seen on my 15000 recently…and I find them just barely sticking out from under the needle plate…but I’ve seen it on my Kenmore too…several years ago at a BOM class. I couldn’t find it then and borrowed a machine for the class from the dealer, which made a horrible block it didn’t even have a thread spool…I ran the thread from my Kenmore thread spool so I could sew…lol) and I had to purchase a duplicate kit and remake it at home during the week anyway.I now have a very soft brush, much like a makeup brush for blush but made by a sewing equipment company (Martelli). It does a decent job of flushing out tiny pieces and minuscule lint the fabulous Janome brush doesn’t get.- CatTypos courtesy of autocorrect.
Carole O'Mara
I am curious about the cardboard sided prewound bobbins. My concern is the size and will they fit my 15000QM. I have empty Janome clear bobbins. Since the cardboard sided bobbins are 60wt thread, can they be wound bobbin to bobbin using the bobbin winder? That way the 60wt bobbin thread can be used on a Janome bobbin and the cardboard is a throw away. It would be thrown away. My dealer does not always have bobbin thread so I buy a spool of another brand, wind onto the bobbin and use the yellow dot bobbin holder, with good results. I also like that there are cardboard pre wounds in a multi pack with colors other than black & white. That makes a nice finished look on the back.
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Thanks,
Carole
On Feb 10, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Patricia Ward <ward.pm@...> wrote:That is interesting about the bobbin case uses..... When I use Janome embroidery prewounds, I have to use the red case. If I use the yellow dot, my bobbin thread shows on top but I use it when I use 40 wt embroidery thread if doing FSL lace with colors.And, Cat, there is a company that sells cardboard side prewounds in boxes of 144--- just an aside. But the Janome boxes are 108.PatThat’s great, Kathy! Glad you got it resolved. I can’t use the red dot case with the Janome prewounds…only with matching threads top and bottom.The tiny thread thing I have seen on my 15000 recently…and I find them just barely sticking out from under the needle plate…but I’ve seen it on my Kenmore too…several years ago at a BOM class. I couldn’t find it then and borrowed a machine for the class from the dealer, which made a horrible block it didn’t even have a thread spool…I ran the thread from my Kenmore thread spool so I could sew…lol) and I had to purchase a duplicate kit and remake it at home during the week anyway.I now have a very soft brush, much like a makeup brush for blush but made by a sewing equipment company (Martelli). It does a decent job of flushing out tiny pieces and minuscule lint the fabulous Janome brush doesn’t get.- CatTypos courtesy of autocorrect.
A. Sandra Clark
I’m sure the knowledgeable people here would advise against anything that is not original Janome….
A. Sandra Clark
On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Carole O'Mara <caroleinco@...> wrote:
I am curious about the cardboard sided prewound bobbins. My concern is the size and will they fit my 15000QM. I have empty Janome clear bobbins. Since the cardboard sided bobbins are 60wt thread, can they be wound bobbin to bobbin using the bobbin winder? That way the 60wt bobbin thread can be used on a Janome bobbin and the cardboard is a throw away. It would be thrown away. My dealer does not always have bobbin thread so I buy a spool of another brand, wind onto the bobbin and use the yellow dot bobbin holder, with good results. I also like that there are cardboard pre wounds in a multi pack with colors other than black & white. That makes a nice finished look on the back.
Thanks,
Carole
Patricia Ward
Yes, Carole, you could do that. I have taken the cardboard ones with color 60 wt thread and rewound them onto a Janome bobbin. Then it works fine.
Long ago I tried the cardboard side ones in my 10000 and that was a serious jam, jump around disaster so since then I have stayed clear of them.
If you want the name of a quilt shop that sells the boxes of Janome prewounds at a good price, just email me privately at
ward.pm@.... Don't know if it is permitted and probably not good to post to the list.
Pat
On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 11:11 AM Carole O'Mara <caroleinco@...> wrote:
I am curious about the cardboard sided prewound bobbins. My concern is the size and will they fit my 15000QM. I have empty Janome clear bobbins. Since the cardboard sided bobbins are 60wt thread, can they be wound bobbin to bobbin using the bobbin winder? That way the 60wt bobbin thread can be used on a Janome bobbin and the cardboard is a throw away. It would be thrown away. My dealer does not always have bobbin thread so I buy a spool of another brand, wind onto the bobbin and use the yellow dot bobbin holder, with good results. I also like that there are cardboard pre wounds in a multi pack with colors other than black & white. That makes a nice finished look on the back.Thanks,CaroleOn Feb 10, 2023, at 12:33 PM, Patricia Ward <ward.pm@...> wrote:That is interesting about the bobbin case uses..... When I use Janome embroidery prewounds, I have to use the red case. If I use the yellow dot, my bobbin thread shows on top but I use it when I use 40 wt embroidery thread if doing FSL lace with colors.And, Cat, there is a company that sells cardboard side prewounds in boxes of 144--- just an aside. But the Janome boxes are 108.PatThat’s great, Kathy! Glad you got it resolved. I can’t use the red dot case with the Janome prewounds…only with matching threads top and bottom.The tiny thread thing I have seen on my 15000 recently…and I find them just barely sticking out from under the needle plate…but I’ve seen it on my Kenmore too…several years ago at a BOM class. I couldn’t find it then and borrowed a machine for the class from the dealer, which made a horrible block it didn’t even have a thread spool…I ran the thread from my Kenmore thread spool so I could sew…lol) and I had to purchase a duplicate kit and remake it at home during the week anyway.I now have a very soft brush, much like a makeup brush for blush but made by a sewing equipment company (Martelli). It does a decent job of flushing out tiny pieces and minuscule lint the fabulous Janome brush doesn’t get.- CatTypos courtesy of autocorrect.
Janome bobbins are best. Cardboard bobbins are libel to produce lots of dust. I was advised many years ago not to use them they are more for industrial machines. Janome thread is 90wt, I use 80 sand and because it’s thinner more stitches per
bobbin. Winding our own is good, especially if you locate the wire on the bobbin spindle with the slot in the top of the bobbin, that locks it, stops it spinning on the spindle and a much better wind, and less likely to drop down under the bobbin
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I’m sure the knowledgeable people here would advise against anything that is not original Janome….
A. Sandra Clark
On Feb 11, 2023, at 11:11 AM, Carole O'Mara <caroleinco@...> wrote:
I am curious about the cardboard sided prewound bobbins. My concern is the size and will they fit my 15000QM. I have empty Janome clear bobbins. Since the cardboard sided bobbins are 60wt thread, can they be wound bobbin to bobbin using the bobbin winder? That way the 60wt bobbin thread can be used on a Janome bobbin and the cardboard is a throw away. It would be thrown away. My dealer does not always have bobbin thread so I buy a spool of another brand, wind onto the bobbin and use the yellow dot bobbin holder, with good results. I also like that there are cardboard pre wounds in a multi pack with colors other than black & white. That makes a nice finished look on the back.
Thanks,
Carole
favymtz
I'm curious about the comments re the cardboard prewound bobbins which I have never tried in all my years of machine embroidery.
Does the bobbin sensor not detect the level of thread? I assume that the bobbin sensor needs a clear bobbin to detect the thread level.
Re whether or not to use Red or Yellow bobbin holder: The manual clearly states that if using Janome pre wounds or Janome bobbin weight thread to use the looser tension Red holder. Yellow, tighter tension, is for other brands of bobbin thread. I find that the rule doesn't always hold true. I check my bobbin tension and results on each project and choose the bobbin holder accordingly because the upper thread also impacts the tension results.
If making FSL or quilting I always use the Red holder to try for a balanced tension look since the back will be seen.
That's just my preference.
Favymtz
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