M17 Viewing


Pixey
 

Well, I went to my dealer’s demo launch of the M17…though I had already told him that I was not likely to be an early adopter. And in fact only came home with 5 spool thread stands for my 500e and 15000 (which were on sale). The M17 is definitely an impressive machine, both in features and size. He and I had a good chat afterward and shared a laugh at the fact that the drawing showing it being carried in the manual is NOT drawn to scale at all.

I did think it interesting that they are openly promoting it as a use-in-place, non-portable machine. With the embroidery unit staying on it but with the arm stowed off far to the left during regular sewing mode. Which is part of why there is not a separate extension table. And are even offering to deliver and set it up like a piece of furniture if needed. He said the box that the machine alone comes in is 63 lb. And the separate embroidery unit box is also pretty massive.

One new element I had not picked up on I the manual is that the needle plate mechanism is now entirely magnetic without a manual switch. Another thing that I noticed is that it is really picky about the sequence of steps used in attaching the stitch regulator (select something on the screen, then plug it in the back of the machine, then select something else to activate). Also, while it comes with the built in 2 spool thread stand, there is no option for attaching a 5 spool thread stand.

Pixey


Patricia Ward
 

Thank you for the update, Pixey.
Truthfully, I have to wonder how much the size and weight of this machine will stop the purchase of it ... esp by those of us who are older and can't even manage anything that bulky and heavy.  I am so happy to have and love the 15000 and my money is going to just stay where it is and work for me instead of spending it on the new machine.

Pat 

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 7:15 PM Pixey via groups.io <pixeyam=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well, I went to my dealer’s demo launch of the M17…though I had already told him that I was not likely to be an early adopter. And in fact only came home with 5 spool thread stands for my 500e and 15000 (which were on sale).  The M17 is definitely an impressive machine, both in features and size.  He and I had a good chat afterward and shared a laugh at the fact that the drawing showing it being carried in the manual is NOT drawn to scale at all.

I did think it interesting that they are openly promoting it as a use-in-place, non-portable machine.  With the embroidery unit staying on it but with the arm stowed off far to the left during regular sewing mode.  Which is part of why there is not a separate extension table.  And are even offering to deliver and set it up like a piece of furniture if needed.  He said the box that the machine alone comes in is 63 lb.  And the separate embroidery unit box is also pretty massive.

One new element I had not picked up on I the manual is that the needle plate  mechanism is now entirely magnetic without a manual switch.  Another thing that I noticed is that it is really picky about the sequence of steps used in attaching the stitch regulator (select something on the screen, then plug it in the back of the machine, then select something else to activate).  Also, while it comes with the built in 2 spool thread stand, there is no option for attaching a 5 spool thread stand.

Pixey






Mary E
 

It sounds more and more like the Bernina 830E I sold two years ago. Top of the line, heavy as heck, not meant to be moved, with the same features. 
Mary

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 7:15 PM Pixey via groups.io <pixeyam=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well, I went to my dealer’s demo launch of the M17…though I had already told him that I was not likely to be an early adopter. And in fact only came home with 5 spool thread stands for my 500e and 15000 (which were on sale).  The M17 is definitely an impressive machine, both in features and size.  He and I had a good chat afterward and shared a laugh at the fact that the drawing showing it being carried in the manual is NOT drawn to scale at all.

I did think it interesting that they are openly promoting it as a use-in-place, non-portable machine.  With the embroidery unit staying on it but with the arm stowed off far to the left during regular sewing mode.  Which is part of why there is not a separate extension table.  And are even offering to deliver and set it up like a piece of furniture if needed.  He said the box that the machine alone comes in is 63 lb.  And the separate embroidery unit box is also pretty massive.

One new element I had not picked up on I the manual is that the needle plate  mechanism is now entirely magnetic without a manual switch.  Another thing that I noticed is that it is really picky about the sequence of steps used in attaching the stitch regulator (select something on the screen, then plug it in the back of the machine, then select something else to activate).  Also, while it comes with the built in 2 spool thread stand, there is no option for attaching a 5 spool thread stand.

Pixey






valora hammond
 

It’s nice to see that Janome is still stepping up and creating great products.  This machine has many features that I have asked for and lusted after in other brands. I don’t think the asking price is all that out of line compared to others that I have heard (three years ago a top of line of another brand was pushing $20 grand). 
But they put it all on this machine and now we want some of these features on other machines.  But they did it!!!!!  


On May 14, 2022, at 5:47 PM, Patricia Ward <ward.pm@...> wrote:


Thank you for the update, Pixey.
Truthfully, I have to wonder how much the size and weight of this machine will stop the purchase of it ... esp by those of us who are older and can't even manage anything that bulky and heavy.  I am so happy to have and love the 15000 and my money is going to just stay where it is and work for me instead of spending it on the new machine.

Pat 

On Sat, May 14, 2022 at 7:15 PM Pixey via groups.io <pixeyam=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well, I went to my dealer’s demo launch of the M17…though I had already told him that I was not likely to be an early adopter. And in fact only came home with 5 spool thread stands for my 500e and 15000 (which were on sale).  The M17 is definitely an impressive machine, both in features and size.  He and I had a good chat afterward and shared a laugh at the fact that the drawing showing it being carried in the manual is NOT drawn to scale at all.

I did think it interesting that they are openly promoting it as a use-in-place, non-portable machine.  With the embroidery unit staying on it but with the arm stowed off far to the left during regular sewing mode.  Which is part of why there is not a separate extension table.  And are even offering to deliver and set it up like a piece of furniture if needed.  He said the box that the machine alone comes in is 63 lb.  And the separate embroidery unit box is also pretty massive.

One new element I had not picked up on I the manual is that the needle plate  mechanism is now entirely magnetic without a manual switch.  Another thing that I noticed is that it is really picky about the sequence of steps used in attaching the stitch regulator (select something on the screen, then plug it in the back of the machine, then select something else to activate).  Also, while it comes with the built in 2 spool thread stand, there is no option for attaching a 5 spool thread stand.

Pixey






Helen Aarness
 

Thx Pixey!

Helen
Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. Albert Einstein

On May 14, 2022, at 4:15 PM, Pixey via groups.io <pixeyam@...> wrote:

Well, I went to my dealer’s demo launch of the M17…though I had already told him that I was not likely to be an early adopter. And in fact only came home with 5 spool thread stands for my 500e and 15000 (which were on sale). The M17 is definitely an impressive machine, both in features and size. He and I had a good chat afterward and shared a laugh at the fact that the drawing showing it being carried in the manual is NOT drawn to scale at all.

I did think it interesting that they are openly promoting it as a use-in-place, non-portable machine. With the embroidery unit staying on it but with the arm stowed off far to the left during regular sewing mode. Which is part of why there is not a separate extension table. And are even offering to deliver and set it up like a piece of furniture if needed. He said the box that the machine alone comes in is 63 lb. And the separate embroidery unit box is also pretty massive.

One new element I had not picked up on I the manual is that the needle plate mechanism is now entirely magnetic without a manual switch. Another thing that I noticed is that it is really picky about the sequence of steps used in attaching the stitch regulator (select something on the screen, then plug it in the back of the machine, then select something else to activate). Also, while it comes with the built in 2 spool thread stand, there is no option for attaching a 5 spool thread stand.

Pixey





juliadlf.ny@...
 

Thank you Pixey for your thoughts on the M17 demo. The only feature I wish they could have updated on the 15000 was a  stitch regulator. Given the size of the M17 it would seem our cabinets for the 15000 would not work to be able to lower the machine into a cabinet for a flat surface sewing which I do a lot of and for storage of the machine when not in use. Another big expense to buy another cabinet. The side loading of the embroidery hoops I can see where some would prefer it to the hoop attaching to the back because of lack of space in their sewing space. I'm sure we will hear more from those who purchased. 


favymtz
 

I too went to the launch party at our local shop this weekend.
The M-17 is BEAUTIFUL!!!
Yes, it's a hunk of heavy and certainly not to be moved about, and possibly for a lot of us, our current furniture isn't adequate to hold it.
Some of the things that I loved that may seem small but still a delight:
  • The touch screens, so crystal clear.
  • The sounds, when touching the screens!
Not so small, and so good:
  • The dial for adjusting the needle height, super cool!
  • Clamps on the embroidery hoops.
And of course, the new big things:
  • the stitch regulator,
  • Laser light for embroidery needle position
  • monstrously large hoops (not sure that's a plus or minus)
What I wish it had:
  • bigger variety of embroidery hoops
  • the laser could be used for projecting straight lines onto the fabric for stitching accuracy
  • and a true camera for embroidery.

That's my analysis, and high five to those who are able to purchase this lovely machine now!!
Favymtz




On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 5:08 AM <juliadlf.ny@...> wrote:
Thank you Pixey for your thoughts on the M17 demo. The only feature I wish they could have updated on the 15000 was a  stitch regulator. Given the size of the M17 it would seem our cabinets for the 15000 would not work to be able to lower the machine into a cabinet for a flat surface sewing which I do a lot of and for storage of the machine when not in use. Another big expense to buy another cabinet. The side loading of the embroidery hoops I can see where some would prefer it to the hoop attaching to the back because of lack of space in their sewing space. I'm sure we will hear more from those who purchased. 


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Favymtz


Pixey
 

Thanks Favy.  I think that is a really accurate assessment of some of the pros and cons.  Particularly the large hoops.  As I was looking at the biggest hoop, I was pondering where in my sewing room would I have enough extra table top space to actually do the hooping.  That said, being able to quilt a 10” quilt block in one hooping is appealing.

Fortunately if an M17 should happen to follow me home at some point a few years down the road, the table my 15000 is currently on would actually work for the M17…barely.

-Pixey


On May 15, 2022, at 8:29 AM, favymtz <favymtz@...> wrote:


I too went to the launch party at our local shop this weekend.
The M-17 is BEAUTIFUL!!!
Yes, it's a hunk of heavy and certainly not to be moved about, and possibly for a lot of us, our current furniture isn't adequate to hold it.
Some of the things that I loved that may seem small but still a delight:
  • The touch screens, so crystal clear.
  • The sounds, when touching the screens!
Not so small, and so good:
  • The dial for adjusting the needle height, super cool!
  • Clamps on the embroidery hoops.
And of course, the new big things:
  • the stitch regulator,
  • Laser light for embroidery needle position
  • monstrously large hoops (not sure that's a plus or minus)
What I wish it had:
  • bigger variety of embroidery hoops
  • the laser could be used for projecting straight lines onto the fabric for stitching accuracy
  • and a true camera for embroidery.

That's my analysis, and high five to those who are able to purchase this lovely machine now!!
Favymtz




On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 5:08 AM <juliadlf.ny@...> wrote:
Thank you Pixey for your thoughts on the M17 demo. The only feature I wish they could have updated on the 15000 was a  stitch regulator. Given the size of the M17 it would seem our cabinets for the 15000 would not work to be able to lower the machine into a cabinet for a flat surface sewing which I do a lot of and for storage of the machine when not in use. Another big expense to buy another cabinet. The side loading of the embroidery hoops I can see where some would prefer it to the hoop attaching to the back because of lack of space in their sewing space. I'm sure we will hear more from those who purchased. 


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Favymtz