Basting stitch length


Kathy Strabel
 

Thanks to all who replied to my query about basting stitches. Many good ideas!
Take care, keep on stitchin'!
Kathy Strabel  Washougal WA


Fiona Williams
 

OMG I cannot believe I have never heard or been taught that tip. My 96 year old mother didn’t know that either and she sewed all my life. Thank you so much.
Fiona


Carolyn Gazerro
 

Superior Threads - Vanish-Lite Water Soluble Lightweight Thread for Quilting, 2,000 Yds. https://a.co/d/fIOumRr


This is the type of thread I use for both hand and machine basting.  Use in bobbin and thread tension.  You can also reduce the tension to 0 but not necessary!


Carolyn Gazerro
 

FYI:  I just used my CM17 for gathering by reducing tension to 0.  

Carolyn 🌹

On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:43 PM, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:


As kids, we used to do something similar using ‘way out of balance’ tension on a straight stitch (forward only…no stitch length choices) treadle machine. With one thread lying on a fabric surface, easy pulling on it let us remove the stitches, gather skirts, sleeves, bodices, etc.   I haven’t attempted it deliberately with the auto tensioned 11000 or 15000 but I expect it’s possible. When the 15000 gets an issue…usually a tiny bit of thread in the bobbin area…that causes the same tension ‘problem’…usually during chain piecing or joining binding strips, etc., when I go to pull the work out from under the needle, the fabrics just slide down the thread and I have to resew them after cleaning the bobbin area. 

I like the cover stitch trick though. Might have to try it sometime.  I’d think a chain stitch would work…like on the dog food bag closures, but never tried it either. 

Clever ideas!!!

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 




On Jan 29, 2023 at 3:11 PM, <Bryden Shiells> wrote:

If you have a coverstitch machine, use one needle (any of them), longest stitch and use that to baste whatever you are working on.   When you are finished cut a couple of stitches at the end you FINISHED sewing and you can pull all the threads out in one run.  I find this far more convenient than having to unpick regular basting.

 

Bryden


Cat - N
 

As kids, we used to do something similar using ‘way out of balance’ tension on a straight stitch (forward only…no stitch length choices) treadle machine. With one thread lying on a fabric surface, easy pulling on it let us remove the stitches, gather skirts, sleeves, bodices, etc.   I haven’t attempted it deliberately with the auto tensioned 11000 or 15000 but I expect it’s possible. When the 15000 gets an issue…usually a tiny bit of thread in the bobbin area…that causes the same tension ‘problem’…usually during chain piecing or joining binding strips, etc., when I go to pull the work out from under the needle, the fabrics just slide down the thread and I have to resew them after cleaning the bobbin area. 

I like the cover stitch trick though. Might have to try it sometime.  I’d think a chain stitch would work…like on the dog food bag closures, but never tried it either. 

Clever ideas!!!

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 




On Jan 29, 2023 at 3:11 PM, <Bryden Shiells> wrote:

If you have a coverstitch machine, use one needle (any of them), longest stitch and use that to baste whatever you are working on.   When you are finished cut a couple of stitches at the end you FINISHED sewing and you can pull all the threads out in one run.  I find this far more convenient than having to unpick regular basting.

 

Bryden


c_zylla
 

Bryden, wow! Thanks!  Great technique! Could even use this for basting small quilts!


On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 2:11 PM, Bryden Shiells
<bshiells@...> wrote:

If you have a coverstitch machine, use one needle (any of them), longest stitch and use that to baste whatever you are working on.   When you are finished cut a couple of stitches at the end you FINISHED sewing and you can pull all the threads out in one run.  I find this far more convenient than having to unpick regular basting.

 

Bryden


Bryden Shiells
 

If you have a coverstitch machine, use one needle (any of them), longest stitch and use that to baste whatever you are working on.   When you are finished cut a couple of stitches at the end you FINISHED sewing and you can pull all the threads out in one run.  I find this far more convenient than having to unpick regular basting.

 

Bryden


Carolyn Gazerro
 

I use a water soluble basting thread.  I just wet the seam and thread disappears!


c_zylla
 

There is also a type of thread specifically made for basting-- it slips out easier (has a coating).
I don't even use a seam ripper for removing basting.  Just a snip every 5th st with a tiny embroidery scissors does the job and there's literally no uncontrolled "ripping" so not any chance of slicing the fabric.
The ball is a curiosity.  Best seam ripper is the Havel's which doesn't have any ball at all-- it is like a razor, much sharper than the ones with the ball.  Try it!  I use it for opening buttonholes, not stitches.


On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 12:33 PM, Linda Thompson
<lynnlind81@...> wrote:
First, I would not baste with matching thread.  With a five setting length, then to remove use your seam ripper holding with  the ball downward between the two layers.  That will zip right out in a jiffy.   With the different color thread you will see stubborn stitches easily.   Google ‘using a seam ripper’.  With the ball downward I have never ripped fabric in the seam line.   Enjoy your tool in a new to you way!


Linda Thompson
 

First, I would not baste with matching thread.  With a five setting length, then to remove use your seam ripper holding with  the ball downward between the two layers.  That will zip right out in a jiffy.   With the different color thread you will see stubborn stitches easily.   Google ‘using a seam ripper’.  With the ball downward I have never ripped fabric in the seam line.   Enjoy your tool in a new to you way!


Kathy Strabel
 

c-Zylla---Thanks for your input. I am aware of doing the "unsewing" the way you describe, but I find it quite tedious with the length 5 basting stitches. Especially if it is matching thread to the fabric. Jim gave me an alternate suggestion which I will try tomorrow!!  I am excited about that.
Take care, hope you are warm and snug where you are.
Kathy Strabel   Washougal WA


On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 4:46 PM c_zylla via groups.io <c_zylla=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
a technique to help when using basting stitches to check fit, is to loosen the thread tension; when removing sts clip every 5th or 6th st of only the bobbin thread, then the loosened needle thread will pull out much easier.



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Have a good one!
Kathy Strabel





Kathy Strabel
 

OOOHHHHH!! That is exactly what I was looking for. I will give page 78 a good read and try this out tomorrow!!  One question comes to mind, though....when the machine takes the one stitch then stops, does it also lift the foot automatically???  Maybe that info will be on page 78...... Thanks a million!!! Time to get dinner on the table!!
Kathy Strabel   Washougal WA.


On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 12:28 PM Jim Stutsman via groups.io <onlinesewing=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Basting stitches can be longer in embroidery mode, because the stitch length is controlled by the hoop movement. In ordinary sewing the longest stitch length is 5mm for automatic stitches, meaning that when you press the foot control (or button) it sews until you stop. That's due to the maximum travel of the feed dogs. But for basting there is a manual method (see page 78 of the instruction book) that takes one stitch and stops, allowing you to move the fabric as much as you want. I think that's what you're looking for.



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Have a good one!
Kathy Strabel





c_zylla
 

a technique to help when using basting stitches to check fit, is to loosen the thread tension; when removing sts clip every 5th or 6th st of only the bobbin thread, then the loosened needle thread will pull out much easier.


Jim Stutsman
 

Basting stitches can be longer in embroidery mode, because the stitch length is controlled by the hoop movement. In ordinary sewing the longest stitch length is 5mm for automatic stitches, meaning that when you press the foot control (or button) it sews until you stop. That's due to the maximum travel of the feed dogs. But for basting there is a manual method (see page 78 of the instruction book) that takes one stitch and stops, allowing you to move the fabric as much as you want. I think that's what you're looking for.


Kathy Strabel
 

Good morning--
I have a Janome S7 sew-only machine. It has the 9mm wide stitch width and the stitch length can be adjusted up to 5. However, I find that the length of 5 is not long enough for basting seams together to "try out" something I am sewing. Is there a way to get a running stitch, say 1/2" in length?  Would this be accomplished by creating and saving a custom stitch? How easy is that to do,  and how long of a stitch could be created? Or does the process used to create custom stitches rely on the pre-set range of the machine?  Length of 5 makes a stitch that requires a LOT of unpicking, which I would like to avoid, especially when I am experimenting on different things.  Much easier with much longer stitches.
Please advise. Love this Group!!
Kathy Strabel  Washougal WA