New Janome Digitizer
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Pam Davison
One option is see if the software has a trial version and play with it. I know Hatch has a trial version. Also go to youtube and look at some videos for the software your are interested in. You can also go to a dealer and have them demonstrate software they sell.
Just one note about Pfaff software (I have 5D and will not be upgrading and don’t use it anymore). It doesn’t seem to convert to the Janome format properly (.jef).
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From: Sandra Williamson via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 6:23 AM To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] New Janome Digitizer
That's quite a list you have tried & clearly you have learned through much experimentation. My situation is that of total newbie with regard to software. I have not made any decisions regarding software, own a 15000 & while I'm trying to educate myself through reading such as is available here, I find I am in position of not knowing my own mind, lacking any clear idea of what my software needs to help me accomplish & my concern is that I may learn my decision becomes an error only when I'm unable to solve an issue & learn that my program cannot enable my goal. This topic is maddening to me as I really don't know really what I want & what I need isn't clear at all. I suppose I'll need to wait....and wait some more!
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Sandra Williamson
That's quite a list you have tried & clearly you have learned through much experimentation. My situation is that of total newbie with regard to software. I have not made any decisions regarding software, own a 15000 & while I'm trying to educate myself through reading such as is available here, I find I am in position of not knowing my own mind, lacking any clear idea of what my software needs to help me accomplish & my concern is that I may learn my decision becomes an error only when I'm unable to solve an issue & learn that my program cannot enable my goal.
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This topic is maddening to me as I really don't know really what I want & what I need isn't clear at all.
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Pam Davison
There already is a download on Janome’s global site for Artistic Digitizer (http://www.janome.co.jp/e/e_downloads/artistic_installation_user_guide.html) – of course you will need an activation code.
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From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> on behalf of Debby Simon <debby.a.simon@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 4:47:58 PM To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] New Janome Digitizer Hello everybody, I like to react ..it will be a read, but I like to explain myself and my choice for my preferred embroidery-software. Long ago I started with a Pfaff 7570 and the PC design software.. Then I made the leap to the Janome MC 11000 with the Customizer software, which I didn't like very well. Someone told me about Embird so I went for Embird, nice on the wallet BTW. In the meantime I learned about the cutwork software from Bernina, which someone used on het MC 11000. Very very Interesting!!!
Then I upgraded to the MC 12000, which I still have, with the Digitizer JR V3 software. Which I didn't like as well, so I used Embird instead and no Digitizer MBX for me, my wallet didn't like the €1500 prize anyway. Sorry I forget to tell you, I live in The Nederlands. As I was also working with rhinestones and fabric paint, I found my way to the Silhouette Portrait (in the meantime upgraded to a Cameo, can't get my hands on the Artistic Egde, as it's USA only), for cutting my rhinestone and paint templates and many other things.
For my ideal world I was wondering if there was an embroidery software package for combining this in one design and I can send the design to the MC 12000 and the Cameo in one go... After a long search on internet I found Artistic Suite V6, and it was Janome as well. And affordable for my wallet. Hooray I thought. Well it turned it was only Janome USA, and no way my Dutch dealer could get his hands on it.. After 8 months I found a private seller who was willing to sell and send it to me.. Double hooray.. With the manual, lessons on Internet and later on Artistic workshops by Trevor Conqergood, ( Triple hooray)I found my way to digitize and send my design to the MC 12000 and the Cameo in one go. Eureka... O, and I can do those cutwork designs as well. Long before Janome Digitizer came with it. Even my Embird is on the shelf, and their update is only $32.
For general information, Artistic Suite is Creative DRAWings based. They updated their software to be Windows and Mac compatible and made changes to the interface of the software. Looking at the videos on the Janome global site, it's looking the same and the videos are done by Trevor again. So maybe new workshops by Trevor again for the new Artistic Digitizer, at least I hope so..
So for me it will be Artistic software....
So it all comes down to one question..what do you want from your embroidery software. If you like your Digitizer MBX you will probably go for Hatch, I read that even an Embird teacher is thinking about Hatch instead of Embird.. I will stay or should I say will go for Artistic Digitizer.. I hope there will be a downloadable upgrade version available so I can get my hands on it here in The Netherlands. Everybody good luck with the embroidery software hunt.. Greetings, Debby from Haarlem, the Netherlands..
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Debby Simon
Hello everybody, I like to react ..it will be a read, but I like to explain myself and my choice for my preferred embroidery-software. Long ago I started with a Pfaff 7570 and the PC design software.. Then I made the leap to the Janome MC 11000 with the Customizer software, which I didn't like very well. Someone told me about Embird so I went for Embird, nice on the wallet BTW. In the meantime I learned about the cutwork software from Bernina, which someone used on het MC 11000. Very very Interesting!!! Then I upgraded to the MC 12000, which I still have, with the Digitizer JR V3 software. Which I didn't like as well, so I used Embird instead and no Digitizer MBX for me, my wallet didn't like the €1500 prize anyway. Sorry I forget to tell you, I live in The Nederlands. As I was also working with rhinestones and fabric paint, I found my way to the Silhouette Portrait (in the meantime upgraded to a Cameo, can't get my hands on the Artistic Egde, as it's USA only), for cutting my rhinestone and paint templates and many other things. For my ideal world I was wondering if there was an embroidery software package for combining this in one design and I can send the design to the MC 12000 and the Cameo in one go... After a long search on internet I found Artistic Suite V6, and it was Janome as well. And affordable for my wallet. Hooray I thought. Well it turned it was only Janome USA, and no way my Dutch dealer could get his hands on it.. After 8 months I found a private seller who was willing to sell and send it to me.. Double hooray.. With the manual, lessons on Internet and later on Artistic workshops by Trevor Conqergood, ( Triple hooray)I found my way to digitize and send my design to the MC 12000 and the Cameo in one go. Eureka... O, and I can do those cutwork designs as well. Long before Janome Digitizer came with it. Even my Embird is on the shelf, and their update is only $32. For general information, Artistic Suite is Creative DRAWings based. They updated their software to be Windows and Mac compatible and made changes to the interface of the software. Looking at the videos on the Janome global site, it's looking the same and the videos are done by Trevor again. So maybe new workshops by Trevor again for the new Artistic Digitizer, at least I hope so.. So for me it will be Artistic software.... So it all comes down to one question..what do you want from your embroidery software. If you like your Digitizer MBX you will probably go for Hatch, I read that even an Embird teacher is thinking about Hatch instead of Embird.. I will stay or should I say will go for Artistic Digitizer.. I hope there will be a downloadable upgrade version available so I can get my hands on it here in The Netherlands. Everybody good luck with the embroidery software hunt.. Greetings, Debby from Haarlem, the Netherlands.. |
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Randi Kemper
Thank you for the sensible answer. I would rather spend my money on sewing
supplies!
Randi
Kemper and the Cairn Terriers,Tessa and McIntosh http://www.magicalmachineembroidery.net -- Randi Kemper Magical Machine Embroidery |
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Ceil J
I'm glad (in a way) to be reading that some are not pleased with the Artistic software as I was ready to jump on this when it came out. That clearly would have been a mistake and now I'll wait to see what the reviews are once the dust settles. Thank you! The opinions give here are so helpful. On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:28 PM, Cheryl Paul <capaul@...> wrote: Thanks for your comments on the “medieval” comment on Artistic software because it is so true. I’m wondering if the new will be just add ons to what is already in the previous program - if so it is a disaster in my opinion. It is NOT at all easy to use and the sequencing is absolutely hopeless if you have more that a half dozen thing to move about, as you just can’t see enough in those horrible trays. We’ll just have to wait and see what comes in the new Artistic digitizing software. |
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Virginia
Be careful with the program not being a Wilcom product you may have support issues. The dealers do not always have the interest in software support. Since MBX version 5 came out Janome has provided very little support. Videos on Hatch and internet groups have been most of our help. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7. -------- Original message -------- From: onlinesewing@... Date: 1/18/18 7:22 AM (GMT-05:00) To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] New Janome Digitizer |
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The Artistic Creative digitizer is NOT a Wilcom product. We won't know how it compares to MBX (or Hatch) until January 30 when it gets officially released.
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How is this the same or different than MBX. I have the most recent update, and I understand that it's a Wilcom product. In fact, before I updated, I made comparisons to Hatch. In all honesty, I haven't gotten into digitizing yet, but am the kind of person who wants the latest and the best. Have a sew-sew day, Meryl -- Thank you, Meryl |
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Cheryl Paul
Thanks for your comments on the “medieval” comment on Artistic software because it is so true. I’m wondering if the new will be just add ons to what is already in the previous program - if so it is a disaster in my opinion. It is NOT at all easy to use and the sequencing is absolutely hopeless if you have more that a half dozen thing to move about, as you just can’t see enough in those horrible trays. We’ll just have to wait and see what comes in the new Artistic digitizing software.
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Kaye Lessard
Hi all
You might go to Janome global as they have videos on different functions of artistic creative I have artistic suite & digitizer 5.0 so once weather & time permits I am gonna look to see what difference there are! What I know of artistic suite I would stay w mbx 5.0 Kaye in la Sent from my iPhone |
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There is no upgrade path from Digitizer MBX to Artistic Creative. It's a completely new product, unrelated to the Wilcom-produced Digitizer series. Suggested list price for Artistic Creative is $1,199 USD. As with all products, individual dealer prices will vary, as will the various country pricing. Artistic Creative will be released on the 30th of this month, though there are many leaks online. I would assume there will be a chart at that time. Given the time that most people have invested in learning the original Janome Digitizer (Wilcom), I don't see much value in jumping to the new one. To me the compelling use case would be someone who does not have digitizing software, particularly if they are using a Mac. At this point we have no reviews, only speculation about an unreleased product, and minimal information from leaks. I would recommend sitting back and waiting for the official unveiling. This new digitizer is from the same company that did AcuDesign and the Artistic series of software. I don't much care for the user interface in AcuDesign, but the Artistic software for the Janome cutter is medieval-level torture to use. I'm hoping that this new software is a big improvement on both of these products.
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Randi Kemper
I know I am way behind with digitizing as I still have digitzer MBX. Do you still get upgrade pricing if you get this new Artistic Creative program? How do I find out what the price is for the Artistic Creative? I just don't know if it is something I really need. I do pretty well with my regular digitizer program. I would need to compare the actual reasons in order to make a decision to spend more on a program. Is there a chart somewhere to see the differences?
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suerevere@ymail.com <srevere@...>
I have totally missed this "branded" software connection and what you wrote certainly makes sense. Always being Janome-loyal I have kept my Digitizer up-to-date thru many, many years. Having said that I also received a program free with my Longarm that is fabulous and then I was able to purchase an embroidery module for it so it's fully functional and has wonderful support with classes galore in many places -- it has become my "go-to" software. Some high-end digitizing software programs do not charge EVER for upgrades, so once you buy it, all upgrades are free. I have paid for Digitizer over again with the years of upgrades at $500 per pop. This is not a complaint, just an observation. So I've decided if Janome doesn't charge for upgrades, then I'll probably bite -- otherwise I won't. JMHO
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SparkleFever
@Pat, not that it matters a hoot, but perhaps Janome (Janome USA) took up with Artistic Creative and when it became clearer that that Janome were/are moving away from using their services for future commissioned software, Wilcom released Hatch.
Janome is a manufacturer of machinery and Wilcom's business is writing embroidery software. I love all 3 of my Janome machines and the technical support from the people at the Stockport Unit in Manchester (UK) has been excellent but I've learnt a lesson with machine Brand digitising software. For quite a while I've used Janome branded digitising software but with the most recent package I have experienced an ongoing issue that needs some technical enquiry to identify the cause & solution. As it's Janome branded I have to go through Janome as a company for technical support = big black hole. I suppose that Branded digitising software is a minuscule part of Janome's business so the lack of interest/action over issues in their commissioned software packages doesn't surprise me. Anyway, I am seriously considering avoiding Brand commissioned software and moving over to Hatch. I understand that Hatch is a newly written programme, rather than a refurbished front end built on top of old programming and that bodes well for it's future. The business that writes the software has a direct interest in supporting and improving it and from (even limited) personal experience I know that Wilcom's technical and customer support is both interested and responsive. I'm inclined to believe they are more likely to be invested in taking notice of their customer base than a machine Brand company that doesn't write the software. It will be interesting to hear about how the Janome Artistic Creative software package performs and I do hope that Janome will be more responsive and takes action on any customer issues with the software in a better and quicker manner than it has with any of their commissioned software in the past. Also it will be interesting to hear about the experiences of those who use different packages as they're ideally placed to compare the pros and cons. -- SparkleFever |
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Pam Davison
They had videos for the old program Artistic and they probably just updated them for the new program.
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From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> on behalf of Ceil J <cjancola@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:47:57 PM To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] New Janome Digitizer There are so many videos for this that I don't understand how it's a new program... maybe just an update?
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Ceil J
There are so many videos for this that I don't understand how it's a new program... maybe just an update?
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Pam Davison
Thanks – I saw them after I started searching around. They also have a new version of Acu-Sketch (version 2.00 – its new to me).
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From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> on behalf of Ceil J <cjancola@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 7:24:55 PM To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] New Janome Digitizer Found this and videos for it too:
https://www.janome.co.jp/e/e_downloads/artistic_training.html
: https://www.janome.co.jp/e/e_news/index.html |
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Ceil J
Found this and videos for it too: https://www.janome.co.jp/e/e_downloads/artistic_training.html
: https://www.janome.co.jp/e/e_news/index.html |
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Ceil J
No, I just read the post online that someone referenced. I didn't know if this product might be an early release. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 7:30 PM, Pam Davison <pamyjo2001@...> wrote:
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