Loose thread loops on top and bottom of embroidery
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I am trying to do a design on a golf towel. I used a light spray of kk2000 to attach towel to hooped medium weight tear away, yellow bobbin case, straight stitch plate, red tip size 14 Janome needle, using thread stand withRobison Anton thread, two layers of lightweight water soluble topper. The underlay stitches are loose and loopy. I didn't notice at first but when the actual design started stitching it was obvious there is a problem! Checked bobbin case, and plate for damage or rough spots. (I have never broken a needle on this machine) Checked to be sure upper and bobbin threads didn't jump out of tension. Rethreaded both (just for fun-ha!) Removed beginning stitches and started over. Same results! I am going to test the design on my 11000 to be sure but I have no reason to believe there is a problem with the design. HELP! Thanks, Teressa Also loopy, Jim says: Underlay stitches are can be looser than embroidery stitches if they are trying to build up an area. The thing about underlay is that it is tailored to the stitches that will cover it as well as the fabric it will be sewn on. When using a stitch file created by someone else you have no control over the underlay. It might be worth trying it on a piece of scrap hooped with stabilizer to see if the result is the same. If it is you may want to contact the source of the design. The KK2000 could also have an impact. When the needle goes into the fabric the thread gets pulled through the adhesive. That can cause the thread to not pull back through the hole tightly. We used to see this a lot with certain brands of sticky stabilizer. Would it be possible to baste the towel to the stabilizer instead? |
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VLS
When that happens to me I use a gold titanium size 14 needle. When I
made the hoopsister jackobean journey quilt it did it quite often unless I used
the gold titanium needle. The quilt block patterns made multiple stiches
in the same path and the needle had a hard time stitching right, but as soon as
I switched to the gold titanium one the problem went away.
Vicki
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Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 1:03 PM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: [janome12000] Loose thread loops on top and bottom of
embroidery
I am trying to do a design on a golf towel. I used a light spray of kk2000 to attach towel to hooped medium weight tear away, yellow bobbin case, straight stitch plate, red tip size 14 Janome needle, using thread stand withRobison Anton thread, two layers of lightweight water soluble topper. The underlay stitches are loose and loopy. I didn't notice at first but when the actual design started stitching it was obvious there is a problem! Checked bobbin case, and plate for damage or rough spots. (I have never broken a needle on this machine) Checked to be sure upper and bobbin threads didn't jump out of tension. Rethreaded both (just for fun-ha!) Removed beginning stitches and started over. Same results! I am going to test the design on my 11000 to be sure but I have no reason to believe there is a problem with the design. HELP!
Thanks,
Teressa
Also loopy, Jim says: Underlay stitches are can be looser than embroidery stitches if they are trying to build up an area. The thing about underlay is that it is tailored to the stitches that will cover it as well as the fabric it will be sewn on. When using a stitch file created by someone else you have no control over the underlay. It might be worth trying it on a piece of scrap hooped with stabilizer to see if the result is the same. If it is you may want to contact the source of the design. The KK2000 could also have an impact. When the needle goes into the fabric the thread gets pulled through the adhesive. That can cause the thread to not pull back through the hole tightly. We used to see this a lot with certain brands of sticky stabilizer. Would it be possible to baste the towel to the stabilizer instead? |
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Unfortunately the design stitching on the golf towel was very loose too. To test the golf towel design on the 11000SE I took a hand towel that is not as thick as the golf towel, hooped it and it is stitching fine on the 11000SE (with the exception of some thread breaks). I have another hand towel that I'll hoop and stitch on the 15000 before I do the golf towel again. That way I will be comparing apples to apples and if they both stitch out well I'll have a matched set of hand towels. I did test a built in design on a terry baby bib using the KK2000 to see if it acted up and had no problems at all, so I am suspecting that the design isn't a great one! but I have never had stitching problems like that on any of my Janome's before with any designs. Thanks Jim! Teressa |
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Thanks Vicki,
I have never used titanium needles because the risk of damage to my machine is not worth it to me. If I get a nest or tangle I prefer a needle break. Just my preference. I have always used Schmetz or the Janome needles with all of my Janome machines and never had this problem. I am suspecting that the design is the culprit and wonder if something happened during the conversion from PES to JEF. (Jim I just remembered that I did convert the file). Still, never had this happen before. :( Teressa |
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VLS
The needle will break, and they are made by Schmetz. I have no idea
why but they stitch much better thru a line or area where the stitches run over
them selves multiple times.
The needle is gold, maybe the tip is titanium not sure but they work really
good.
Hope you get your problem worked out.
Vicki
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Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 4:34 PM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Loose thread loops on top and bottom of
embroidery Thanks Vicki, I have never used titanium needles because the risk of damage to my machine
is not worth it to me. If I get a nest or tangle I prefer a needle
break. Just my preference.
I have always used Schmetz or the Janome needles with all of my Janome
machines and never had this problem.
I am suspecting that the design is the culprit and wonder if something
happened during the conversion from PES to JEF. (Jim I just remembered
that I did convert the file).
Still, never had this happen before. :(
Teressa |
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Bonnie McLain
Why would titanium needles hurt the machine? I use them all the time. To me breaking a needle is awful on your machine... Never break one.... Bonnie Jim's Titanic reply: We sold them in the store, but had a lot of damaged machines. They last longer than other needles, which caused people to use them longer, past the point of dullness. Being less likely to break, if the needle failed to penetrate all the layers and got deflected into the hook race it would do a LOT of damage. In some cases chunks were taken out of the race, requiring replacement. I spent far more hours than I wanted polishing and replacing to the point that we just quit carrying them. |
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Sandra King
Janome has a water solvable stabilizer that is tacky. You would not need the spray and could wash the stabilizer away, or they make a tear away called Perfect Stick that might be better than the spray.
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Thanks Sandra. I'll check it out. I have a vast collection of Stabilizers but always open to adding more. (Someday I know I'll use that heat and gone I bought years ago). 😉
I doubt that the dealer here sells the Janome. They like floriani. Teessa |
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Sandra King
I'm sorry I mis-spoke. I just realized I said Janome stabilizer but I meant Floriani. I guess I had a senior moment. So sorry!
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