Janome 12000 and 14000


KewelAunty
 


To Jim Stutsman.  I am looking at upgrading my sewing machine to a 12000 or 14000 Janome.  What machine would you recommend and why.  

Thank you,
Sandy



Jim Stutsman
 

I would invite owners of these machines to weigh in as well. We no longer have the 12000.

From those choices I would definitely choose the 14000. It's actually a 15000 without WiFi, and has all the other great features. 


JUDY
 

If you are computer savvy then I think you should get the 15000 it’s a great machine I have had for over 5 years. Love it!


On Jun 11, 2020, at 4:43 PM, Jim Stutsman via groups.io <onlinesewing@...> wrote:

I would invite owners of these machines to weigh in as well. We no longer have the 12000.

From those choices I would definitely choose the 14000. It's actually a 15000 without WiFi, and has all the other great features. 


Lyn Quine
 

I have the 12000, but I also have the 15000.  I would go for the 14000, the 12000 is discontinued so if you can get one new or exdemo, it’s old stock, I’d be cautious.  I’m not a lover of the wifi function on the 15000, it’s greedy on the wifi, we can’t use the internet when the 15000 is on the net, might be my internet, but we normally have at least 4 devices on the net all the time, we have to switch 3 of them off to use the internet for the 15000, so I stick to USB sticks.  But don’t get me wrong the 15000 is my pride and joy, I love using it, and I worry if it does something strange And it will be my error not the machine.  


Anne Stoye
 

I have a 12000, bought new some years ago and still going strong.  It is a great machine.  Every time they bring out a new model I discover a few extra features have been introduced that I really would use (and some I wouldn’t if I am being realistic).  I also have a 9400QCP which does not do embroidery but has a few extra sewing features I like.  I mostly do dressmaking (and occasional quilting) and, whilst the embroidery is nice to have and I like to design and embroider quilt labels, I could survive without embroidery.  If I were replacing my two machines with one I think I would be more likely to choose the M7 than a combined embroidery machine.  But having a second machine is good for when one is away being serviced or (only rarely, mended).  When I contemplate upgrading I try to assess whether the extra functionality is REALLY worth the cost of the upgrade.   Over the years I have also accumulated various extra feet for specialist jobs (btw I LOVE the FootBook app) and staying with Janome 9mm makes the most of this investment.  There are a few things that other brands have on their top of line machines that I would rather like but I take the view that Janome may do a catch up in the future.  When there are enough extra goodies on a new machine or my 12000 becomes terminally ill I will have a careful look at the options.  I think it is a very personal choice about which features each owner uses and values, and then an affordability/value for money issue for the marginal ones.  There are many stitches and features I have never used and am unlikely to use in the future.  Useful stitches not number of stitches is what matters to me. 

 

I am sorry that I can’t comment on the 14000.

 

Sewing is my major hobby and having the time and energy to sew is an indicator of my quality of life.  Having a machine that is reliable, versatile and enjoyable to use is important to me but making my machine last until there is a major step change in the features offered is sensible.  Depending on what you sew, the difference in price can mean a good coverstitch machine or overlocker that might make more difference to your sewing.  Even if I could afford a grand and new machine very regularly, having the top of the range model per se is not something that matters to me, and value for money for me is probably how I choose.

 

Have fun choosing.

 

Anne


Lucy Akers
 

I agree with lyn. I take my 12000 to class and will trade for the new machine if Janome ever comes out with one! At home, I use a 15000 but almost always use USB sticks to transfer designs rather than the wifi so it seems that a 14000 would have suited.


Virginia
 

From what I have read the 14,000 is the same machine as either the 12,000 or the 15,000 (before the upgrade to the QCP Version 3) but without wifi.

Virginia


-----Original Message-----
From: Lyn Quine <lynquine@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Sent: Fri, Jun 12, 2020 4:58 am
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Janome 12000 and 14000

I have the 12000, but I also have the 15000.  I would go for the 14000, the 12000 is discontinued so if you can get one new or exdemo, it’s old stock, I’d be cautious.  I’m not a lover of the wifi function on the 15000, it’s greedy on the wifi, we can’t use the internet when the 15000 is on the net, might be my internet, but we normally have at least 4 devices on the net all the time, we have to switch 3 of them off to use the internet for the 15000, so I stick to USB sticks.  But don’t get me wrong the 15000 is my pride and joy, I love using it, and I worry if it does something strange And it will be my error not the machine.  


pwgolfs2
 

I have the 15000, I transfer most designs via USB.  However, I use the WiFi in the machine a LOT for placement of my designs using the AcuSetter app.  I think the AcuSetter app functionality is one of my favorite features on the 15000


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On Friday, June 12, 2020, 10:30 AM, Lucy Akers <akerslucy@...> wrote:

I agree with lyn. I take my 12000 to class and will trade for the new machine if Janome ever comes out with one! At home, I use a 15000 but almost always use USB sticks to transfer designs rather than the wifi so it seems that a 14000 would have suited.


Shirley Allen
 

I have the 14000 & love it.  It does all I need & I do not miss the wifi.  Its a great machine  Shirley A From NJ


Carole Hollmann
 

I have the 15000 for 5+ years and only used the WiFi twice. If that is the essential advantage of the 15000, I would not spring for it.

Carole

On Jun 12, 2020, at 10:05 PM, Shirley Allen <sowhat1935@gmail.com> wrote:

I have the 14000 & love it. It does all I need & I do not miss the wifi. Its a great machine Shirley A From NJ




Steven C. Haber
 

One thing that the Wifi allows us to do with the 15000 is to use Janome's Ipad Acusetter app. It's an innovative way of aligning designs in the hoop.

Here's a link to a page on Janome's site that describes it:

https://www.janome.com/products/acusetter/

It relies on Wifi, so it can only be used with the 15000, as far as I know.

--Steven


favymtz
 

AcuSetter also works on the Skyline 9 machine which also has WiFi.
I've been following this conversation with interest to read people's opinions about the availability of having a machine enabled with WiFi.
My opinion is that if a person didn't have Wifi at all in their home then the logical choice would be the 14000.
But the fact that the 15 has it, gives the options to use it and it obviously expands the functionality of the machine.
When I sold Janomes one challenge was to explain the fact that a person should look towards the future of what they could learn to use on a machine, and not to underbuy features.
This is especially true if a person is purchasing a fine new machine after years of using an outdated, poorly running machine.

--
Favymtz


maschwab
 

I have had the 15000 for 6 years. I always use the wifi. I love the fact that I capstone all my designs on the computer and send them so easily to the machine. Also use it all the time with apps on my IPad. 
Margaret 



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-------- Original message --------
From: favymtz <favymtz@...>
Date: 2020-06-16 7:21 a.m. (GMT-06:00)
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] Janome 12000 and 14000

AcuSetter also works on the Skyline 9 machine which also has WiFi.
I've been following this conversation with interest to read people's opinions about the availability of having a machine enabled with WiFi.
My opinion is that if a person didn't have Wifi at all in their home then the logical choice would be the 14000.
But the fact that the 15 has it, gives the options to use it and it obviously expands the functionality of the machine.
When I sold Janomes one challenge was to explain the fact that a person should look towards the future of what they could learn to use on a machine, and not to underbuy features.
This is especially true if a person is purchasing a fine new machine after years of using an outdated, poorly running machine.

--
Favymtz


Ande Jackson
 

The S9 also has WiFi and can use the AcuSetter app.


Cheryl Paul
 

I think that the Acusetter works with the Skyline S9, as it is also a WiFi Embroidery/sewing machine. I haven’t tried it yet but it is an option when selecting the machine for the APP’s.

Cheryl - Saskatoon


Janet
 

Hi Sandy
If you are like me, and buy a quality machine, take good care of it, and keep it for years, then I suggest the 14000. I went over the features when I was choosing amongst the 12000, 14000, and 15000, and I accepted my dealer's thoughts that paying several thousand dollars more for wifi wasn't essential (even though she loves her own 15000) and the 14000's cable and the flash drive were very adequate; and so I have found. She also said that the extra features the 14000 had over the 12000 were significant, and so the 14000 was what I went with, and I have been very happy with it. I put my laptop by the machine and connect via the cable, or use the usb if I copy something from another computer. I was offered a trolley case as my purchaser's gift with the machine but I said no as the 1400 is quite big, and I wouldn't take it to classes, but it is a very substantial machine which I appreciate in the studio. The Janome rep then offered a 5 spool stand, which I accepted, and it is soooo useful, I love it. Good luck with your decision and enjoy whichever machine you decide on.
Cheers
--
Janet in New Zealand 6600P; QC14000


Mary Mills
 

Wifi with the S9 is a fit and miss affair.   Never got mine to work, even the experts at Janome head office here in Australia never got it to work.   And I have top speed NBN here!   Regards, Mary