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505 Basting Spray

Cat - N
 

Kathy, it's like you read my mind!!!  That's exactly what I always say, "if I like something, it's the kiss of death, especially if I tell other people how great a product is!" 

The product is was using was readily available at the fabric counter of the store where I buy some of my fabrics.  Other than Wal-mart, I think we only have 2 other stores that sell fabric, although I can drive for about an hour and there are several quilt shops.

When my sandal got caught in the garden hose on the ground out back and I badly sprained my ankle and couldn't walk without that boot (praises for that big ugly boot!) for over 6 weeks, I did quite a bit of shopping online.  While on Amazon one day, I saw they sold the basting spray I liked, and I knew that would come straight to the porch in a truck, so I bought 2 cans of it, since I knew the can I had been using was down by about half and I wouldn't be getting to the store anytime soon.  It wasn't until later that I realized the 'new' spray is 'different'...first thing I noticed, besides the new lid and that the 'new' spray can 'rattled' like a paint can being shaken, was that the spray itself smelled 'tutti fruitti-cherry-ish' kinda like bubblegum or something, and I had NEVER smelled the original spray. 

I took photos of both cans side by side...all the way around.  The original spray was made in France...and it was GREAT, but the new spray was made in the USA...which I normally look for...but then I saw tiny puff balls on my needle.  I picked them off and cleaned the needle, wondering why my batting would pull up...which it had NEVER done...but there were more and more and then thread started breaking, and I was 'praying to the Great Sewing Goddess' to just let me finish sewing the last 8" on the quilt without having to rethread.  Blush



- Cat



-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Skagen <kagen48@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 505 Basting Spray

Cat,

Doesn't that always seem to be the way with the "new and improved" anything we used to love? "New and improved" is like the kiss of death and it always seems to happen the the things I really really like. Oh, well.

Yes! It was your idea I want to copy. Then I won't have to go outside to spray anymore either. :-)

I hope your quilting goes well. I don't think you will need to wipe the needle as you sew. I've never had even my regular Organ sewing needles get gummed up. You'll have to post a picture of your finished quilt. I admire you--that is so much work! But quilts do last for years. So, well worth it.
Kathy

On Thursday, November 4, 2021, 08:59:11 PM CDT, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:


Thank you, Kathy.  I am not overly concerned about overspray.  I have breathing issues for many, many years, so an extremely careful what I breathe, so, if inside, I spray inside a square tube made out of printer/copy paper.  I prefer to spray outdoors, of course, and I have basted a number of quilts outside, but in this case, I am sandwiching on a table with a ceiling fan overhead, which blows the overspray down into my square tube/shield (might be the photo I sent is one you saw...I took a 'live photo' today but not sure how to convert it to a gif animation) and back onto either the tube/shield sides or the quilt materials being sandwiched.  To be honest, it is very tempting to sandwich using the 12' long arm frame and just pin, remove the quilts, and cary them back to my 15000.  I haven't done that because I have well pressed backings and quilts hanging over the bars, and batting hanging there also so the center fold can relax.

My main concern was to be 'forewarned' if I need to just go ahead and put a non-stick/teflon needle into my machine to begin with, wipe the needle with dry silicon (and keep it handy to reapply), or if I need do nothing different than I have been doing when using 505 Spray.  Best advice is always from a current user of any product....or the techs that service them...but I am very disappointed in my previous spray, since the 'new' formulation is not as good as the previous one.

- Cat (FL)


-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Skagen <kagen48@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 7:53 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 505 Basting Spray

Oops! I will have to go back and look through the posts. There was even a great photo and I want to make one.

On Thursday, November 4, 2021, 12:47:57 PM CDT, Ceil J <cjancola@...> wrote:


Kathy,
Not sure whose idea it was to combat overspraying but it, unfortunately, was not mine. 
:) Ceil

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 1:30 PM Kathy Skagen <kagen48@...> wrote:
Cat,
I forgot to mention that I always have sprayed 505 outside. I didn't want any of the overspray on my floors but I think Ceil's (I believe) idea to combat overspray was genius! By the way, I have always used the floating method of hooping. I'm not telling others to do that as I know that there are pitfalls and everyone has their methods. I'm just letting you know that in 20 years, I have used a LOT of 505!
:-)

On Thursday, November 4, 2021, 12:13:28 PM CDT, Kathy Skagen <kagen48@...> wrote:


I believe that was me, Cat. My dealer recommended 505 when I bought my MC10001 nearly 20 years ago, so there may be more options today. I have used it that long and never had any issues with the needles getting gummed up. The hoop does get some sticky residue on it after quite a few hoopings and that is why I was looking for a foolproof cleaner. But that could be my fault for not cleaning it more often! (Now that I actually think about it!) I have never had an issue with the glue washing out in garments and it is stickier if you spray more so I imagine that the reverse is true.
Kathy

On Thursday, November 4, 2021, 07:52:28 AM CDT, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote:


I think someone in this group mentioned 505 basting spray...I 'think' in the context of trying to remove it from embroidery hoops. 

I have found myself in the position of feeling obligated to try to find an alternative basting spray, since there is apparently a 'new' (or at least 'different') 'version' of the spray I have been using for the past 6 or so years...the spray I really liked that doesn't gum needles may be a thing of the past because the retail store only had the kind that sounds like a paint can when you shake it and gums the needle enough to eventually start breaking thread.

So, out of the 3 options I had, I bought 2 cans of 505, and now I am wondering if 505 is really a 'temporary' and a 'repositional' spray that washes out?

I bought both Schmetz and Janome non-stick needles, but I'd prefer to use my regular needle for quilting these 4 quilts' ITH designs without also testing needles. 

Any advice or experience would be appreciated. 

- Cat (FL)
Cat - N
 

Thanks...I plan to.  They scheduled the Jacksonville, FL quilt show for 2021...it was cancelled for 'the year that never was' (2020), but then cancelled the 2021 show again.  I just got the notice this week that the AQS show in Daytona Beach is scheduled again...for February 2022, so we'll see.  I bought my Artistic Edge 15 at Daytona...though I cannot tell you what year with all that's happened here...LOL  But the show was JUST after Janome introduced their new long arm quilter, if that provides a timeline.  We demo'd the new Janome long arm at a dealer 'moments' after it was released for sale, but bought a different brand (shhhh) we had already been evaluating before Janome told us they HAD a new long arm...and got the robot and 12' frame, too.  But I will tell you that the Janome long arm was a SWEET machine!!!  So SMOOTH in free motion!!!  In all fairness, the robot does provide a bit of 'weight' in movement, although this long arm is very smooth, too...and although it takes 'no' effort to move it in free motion, it took 'less' effort to move it BEFORE the robot was installed...cables and all that.  It's all good!!!  Blush

- Cat


-----Original Message-----
From: Kathy Skagen <kagen48@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 505 Basting Spray

Wow, Cat! With all that as your normal daily routine, you totally need to go to a quilt show or two to treat yourself. Have a great time 

On Thursday, November 4, 2021, 09:19:13 PM CDT, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:


I just want to thank everyone who responded.  I know there are a lot of products, but I thought I had the product I liked, only to find out the product has changed and I'm not liking it so much anymore.  Also, I have limited retail resources in this area, and not inclined to travel to quilt shops at the moment to see what they are selling...I pick up my autistic grandson (5 years old) from autism therapy every day and take him home, so my schedule does not permit it anyway...plus I have 3 Yorkies and an amputee hubby, and I sometimes watch my baby granddaughter and grandson, or my baby great-granddaughter so I manage to stay a wee bit busy.  However, it looks like there are quilt shows coming up in Florida and I will attend at least some of them...woo hoo!!!

Thank you again for your responses and suggestions.  There is so much...who can keep track of it all...not me!

- Cat (FL)
Cat - N
 

Thank you, Lyn.  I don't use sticky stabilizer often, but the one I used did not gum the needle.  Sulky, I think it was...only bought a small package of it...still have some of it left.  I used it to float baby onsies on my 11000 in 2016, and a few other reasons, with no issues.  I use 'sticky' stuff only when 'necessary' but the changed basting spray was the first thing that gummed my needle since about 2015-2016.  I did use a permanent fusible adhesive...Heat and Bond, I think...1/4"...that gummed my needle very badly...on my Kenmore (made by Janome), though...and I haven't used it since.  I only used it then to keep bull denim edges turned in to make sure the topstitching sewed okay through both turned in sides.  Horrible mess...went through half a box of alcohol wipes and lots of re-threading black thread...with double vision...LOL  Mostly the 'fusible' I use is fusible fleece (ITH projects like mug rugs, bags, etc.), and fusible interfacing (hubby's Hawaiian shirts, bags, etc....Pellon, I think) and neither of those gum the needle.  I've have enough excitement...just want to quilt those sofa quilts and get them draped over the sofa backs for the chillier weather...and get onto my Christmas quilts...that I started to do last year...

- Cat (FL)


-----Original Message-----
From: Lyn Quine <lynquine@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Nov 4, 2021 10:55 am
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 505 Basting Spray

Yes it washed out, I used it to float a tshirt I think, and it was only a light spray, away from the machine obviously, I think I used a cardboard box to help minimise the mist and keep in within the box and I did it outside which carries its own problems as in wind direction etc.   It didn’t gum the needle, but it may have picked up some without me realising, when finished I changed the needle.  A lot depends on how much you spray on, I’ve seen some people, at workshops, spray it with gay abandon, and others just a touch here and there.  I’ve also heard the horror stories of the problems and costs of over spraying and then servicing the machine.  I’m afraid, although I have a can upstairs in my sewing room, it will only ever be used as an absolute last resort.  

Whatever happens if using spray I would clean the needle regularly with a light spray of silicon on a cloth, not sprayed directly, and I’d use a new needle at the start of a new day, probably over the top, but It’s too late when you start seeing that tell tale loop of thread dropping off the needle, it’s already gummed up.  That’s the reason I stopped using the sticky stabiliser, it’s just repurposed shelf liner to me.


On 4 Nov 2021, at 14:43, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:


When you used the 505 spray, did it wash out and did it gum the needle?

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Nov 4, 2021 at 9:55 AM, <Lyn Quine> wrote:

Unfortunately I can’t hold a needle for very long, arthritis in my thumb joints, I’m losing the pinch, I’m quite clumsy these days, difficulty picking up small things, bobbins take on a life of their own and fly out of my hands 😂.   On small pieces I have used the free motion foot and tack across the mini quilts that works, but of course on bigger projects you have to securely.


I have allergies and live in a colder climate so the basting sprays are often not an option (even with an N95 mask on).  Plus those little particles do get around and I had a can of the stuff malfunction and that was a complete mess.  Luckily I was in the basement at the time. 
I have tried pin basting and that's hard on my fingers and have a quilt gun which works well but can be a problem if you don't get the little plastic parts perfect. 
What I really, really like is thread basting.  I saw one of Diane's videos with a thread basted quilt and thought it looked like a crazy idea.  Then I looked it up and gave it a try.  It was much easier and faster than other methods, except the sprays.  I use a thimble, of course, a pop into the top needle and 30 wt thread.  I love this method.

On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 9:00 AM Lyn Quine <lynquine@...> wrote:
I have used 505, and sticky stabiliser, magic tape, painters tape, masking tape.  I don’t like any of them very much.  If the needle gets gummed up it will transfer it to the bobbin area.  What I use now is fusible wadding and or safety pins or a quilt gun.  My preferred choice is quilt gun, the tags are small and plastic, don’t break needles, and if you use the gun like a pin, go in and out on the top if you want to remove the tag whilst you’re sewing little bits of plastic don’t drop down into the machine.  The tags done this way also hold the layers together closer than just ‘shooting it through.


On 4 Nov 2021, at 12:52, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote:


I think someone in this group mentioned 505 basting spray...I 'think' in the context of trying to remove it from embroidery hoops. 

I have found myself in the position of feeling obligated to try to find an alternative basting spray, since there is apparently a 'new' (or at least 'different') 'version' of the spray I have been using for the past 6 or so years...the spray I really liked that doesn't gum needles may be a thing of the past because the retail store only had the kind that sounds like a paint can when you shake it and gums the needle enough to eventually start breaking thread.

So, out of the 3 options I had, I bought 2 cans of 505, and now I am wondering if 505 is really a 'temporary' and a 'repositional' spray that washes out?

I bought both Schmetz and Janome non-stick needles, but I'd prefer to use my regular needle for quilting these 4 quilts' ITH designs without also testing needles. 

Any advice or experience would be appreciated. 

- Cat (FL)
Cheryl Paul
 

Today is our 51st Wedding Anniversary - the weather today in Saskatoon is much the same as our Wedding Day when we were married in Regina. Sun is shining and there is NO SNOW on the ground. My housecleaners are here and brought us 4 individual hand made anniversary cards. These 4 grandchildren are the greatest, just like their 9 cousins. We’ll probably see some of the others later today, and get messages from the 4 that live out of Saskatoon.

Janome has their own basting spray called "Artistic Tack”, it is fairly pricy but then so is 505 or KK2000, etc. They also have “Artistic Clean” for cleaning off hoops if you happen to get some spray tack on them - I haven’t tried the cleaner yet, as I haven’t needed to, but the spray works well.

If I were you, I’d try one can of the Artistic Tack and see if it is as good as I was told when I bought mine - I like it. The Janome Dealer in Humboldt at Haus of Stitches swears by the product and so do some of her customers. These ladies are sewing on expensive machines such as we are use to do our sewing and quilting.

Cheryl - Saskatoon
June E Hudspeth
 

Congratulations to you Cheryl and your hubby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like you will have an amazing day!

June/Sacramento (It will be 41 years for us on January 3rd).

-----Original Message-----
From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cheryl Paul
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 10:34 AM
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 505 Basting Spray

Today is our 51st Wedding Anniversary - the weather today in Saskatoon is much the same as our Wedding Day when we were married in Regina. Sun is shining and there is NO SNOW on the ground. My housecleaners are here and brought us 4 individual hand made anniversary cards. These 4 grandchildren are the greatest, just like their 9 cousins. We’ll probably see some of the others later today, and get messages from the 4 that live out of Saskatoon.

Janome has their own basting spray called "Artistic Tack”, it is fairly pricy but then so is 505 or KK2000, etc. They also have “Artistic Clean” for cleaning off hoops if you happen to get some spray tack on them - I haven’t tried the cleaner yet, as I haven’t needed to, but the spray works well.

If I were you, I’d try one can of the Artistic Tack and see if it is as good as I was told when I bought mine - I like it. The Janome Dealer in Humboldt at Haus of Stitches swears by the product and so do some of her customers. These ladies are sewing on expensive machines such as we are use to do our sewing and quilting.

Cheryl - Saskatoon
Cat - N
 

Thanks, Cheryl. I haven’t seen Janome Artistic Tack in any store, advertising, catalog, magazine, email from Janome or any dealers/resellers, or internet search, but can/will look for it…will search by name now that you’ve said it exists. 😁. Not sure if it is available in the USA…I’m in Florida (where our ‘sunshine’ is liquid all day today)…the Janome ‘mini duckling scissors’ are not sold here apparently, although they seem virtually identical (except they’re not purple) to the Gypsy ‘mini duck bill scissors’…which I have and like.  

Janome Artistic Tack definitely isn’t sold in the retail stores available to me locally…which is why I had to buy the 505…the only other two basting sprays ‘rattle like a paint can when shaken’ and 505 did not. I have heard of 505 for years but was very happy with the “Made in France” temporary basting spray branded by “June Tailor” but when it became “Made in the USA” (after which it ‘rattles like a paint can’ when shaken, smells funny, and gums needles), I am no longer interested in it or the two cans of it I bought a little while ago…and needed something in a hurry…hence 505 and not ordered…which is why I was/am interested in opinions from 505 spray users before it goes under my needle. 

Congratulations on your anniversary…definitely an accomplishment…and very nice celebration and weather, too. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Nov 5, 2021 at 1:33 PM, <Cheryl Paul> wrote:

Today is our 51st Wedding Anniversary - the weather today in Saskatoon is much the same as our Wedding Day when we were married in Regina.  Sun is shining and there is NO SNOW on the ground.  My housecleaners are here and brought us 4 individual hand made anniversary cards. These 4 grandchildren are the greatest, just like their 9 cousins.  We’ll probably see some of the others later today, and get messages from the 4 that live out of Saskatoon.

Janome has their own basting spray called "Artistic Tack”, it is fairly pricy but then so is 505 or KK2000, etc.  They also have “Artistic Clean” for cleaning off hoops if you happen to get some spray tack on them - I haven’t tried the cleaner yet, as I haven’t needed to, but the spray works well.   

If I were you, I’d try one can of the Artistic Tack and see if it is as good as I was told when I bought mine - I like it.  The Janome Dealer in Humboldt at Haus of Stitches swears by the product and so do some of her customers.  These ladies are sewing on expensive machines such as we are use to do our sewing and quilting.

Cheryl - Saskatoon

Cat - N
 

Aha!!!  I found it at Ken’s Sewing Center. I guess the trick is to search for it by name. It’s not inexpensive, as you mentioned, but I will likely order some anyway…as soon as I can. Gotta get going now, and prefer to order from PC…not CB phone. 

Thanks, again, Cheryl. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Nov 5, 2021 at 1:55 PM, <Cat - N via groups.io> wrote:

Thanks, Cheryl. I haven’t seen Janome Artistic Tack in any store, advertising, catalog, magazine, email from Janome or any dealers/resellers, or internet search, but can/will look for it…will search by name now that you’ve said it exists. 😁. Not sure if it is available in the USA…I’m in Florida (where our ‘sunshine’ is liquid all day today)…the Janome ‘mini duckling scissors’ are not sold here apparently, although they seem virtually identical (except they’re not purple) to the Gypsy ‘mini duck bill scissors’…which I have and like.  

Janome Artistic Tack definitely isn’t sold in the retail stores available to me locally…which is why I had to buy the 505…the only other two basting sprays ‘rattle like a paint can when shaken’ and 505 did not. I have heard of 505 for years but was very happy with the “Made in France” temporary basting spray branded by “June Tailor” but when it became “Made in the USA” (after which it ‘rattles like a paint can’ when shaken, smells funny, and gums needles), I am no longer interested in it or the two cans of it I bought a little while ago…and needed something in a hurry…hence 505 and not ordered…which is why I was/am interested in opinions from 505 spray users before it goes under my needle. 

Congratulations on your anniversary…definitely an accomplishment…and very nice celebration and weather, too. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Nov 5, 2021 at 1:33 PM, <Cheryl Paul> wrote:

Today is our 51st Wedding Anniversary - the weather today in Saskatoon is much the same as our Wedding Day when we were married in Regina.  Sun is shining and there is NO SNOW on the ground.  My housecleaners are here and brought us 4 individual hand made anniversary cards. These 4 grandchildren are the greatest, just like their 9 cousins.  We’ll probably see some of the others later today, and get messages from the 4 that live out of Saskatoon.

Janome has their own basting spray called "Artistic Tack”, it is fairly pricy but then so is 505 or KK2000, etc.  They also have “Artistic Clean” for cleaning off hoops if you happen to get some spray tack on them - I haven’t tried the cleaner yet, as I haven’t needed to, but the spray works well.    

If I were you, I’d try one can of the Artistic Tack and see if it is as good as I was told when I bought mine - I like it.  The Janome Dealer in Humboldt at Haus of Stitches swears by the product and so do some of her customers.  These ladies are sewing on expensive machines such as we are use to do our sewing and quilting.

Cheryl - Saskatoon

Cat - N
 

So sorry…I typed “not by phone” but the phone changed “by” to “CB”…ugh!!!

Can I ask, Cheryl, does the can rattle when you shake it…?

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Nov 5, 2021 at 2:15 PM, <Cat - N via groups.io> wrote:

Aha!!!  I found it at Ken’s Sewing Center. I guess the trick is to search for it by name. It’s not inexpensive, as you mentioned, but I will likely order some anyway…as soon as I can. Gotta get going now, and prefer to order from PC…not CB phone. 

Thanks, again, Cheryl. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Nov 5, 2021 at 1:55 PM, <Cat - N via groups.io> wrote:

Thanks, Cheryl. I haven’t seen Janome Artistic Tack in any store, advertising, catalog, magazine, email from Janome or any dealers/resellers, or internet search, but can/will look for it…will search by name now that you’ve said it exists. 😁. Not sure if it is available in the USA…I’m in Florida (where our ‘sunshine’ is liquid all day today)…the Janome ‘mini duckling scissors’ are not sold here apparently, although they seem virtually identical (except they’re not purple) to the Gypsy ‘mini duck bill scissors’…which I have and like.  

Janome Artistic Tack definitely isn’t sold in the retail stores available to me locally…which is why I had to buy the 505…the only other two basting sprays ‘rattle like a paint can when shaken’ and 505 did not. I have heard of 505 for years but was very happy with the “Made in France” temporary basting spray branded by “June Tailor” but when it became “Made in the USA” (after which it ‘rattles like a paint can’ when shaken, smells funny, and gums needles), I am no longer interested in it or the two cans of it I bought a little while ago…and needed something in a hurry…hence 505 and not ordered…which is why I was/am interested in opinions from 505 spray users before it goes under my needle. 

Congratulations on your anniversary…definitely an accomplishment…and very nice celebration and weather, too. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Nov 5, 2021 at 1:33 PM, <Cheryl Paul> wrote:

Today is our 51st Wedding Anniversary - the weather today in Saskatoon is much the same as our Wedding Day when we were married in Regina.  Sun is shining and there is NO SNOW on the ground.  My housecleaners are here and brought us 4 individual hand made anniversary cards. These 4 grandchildren are the greatest, just like their 9 cousins.  We’ll probably see some of the others later today, and get messages from the 4 that live out of Saskatoon.

Janome has their own basting spray called "Artistic Tack”, it is fairly pricy but then so is 505 or KK2000, etc.  They also have “Artistic Clean” for cleaning off hoops if you happen to get some spray tack on them - I haven’t tried the cleaner yet, as I haven’t needed to, but the spray works well.     

If I were you, I’d try one can of the Artistic Tack and see if it is as good as I was told when I bought mine - I like it.  The Janome Dealer in Humboldt at Haus of Stitches swears by the product and so do some of her customers.  These ladies are sewing on expensive machines such as we are use to do our sewing and quilting.

Cheryl - Saskatoon

Shirley Oglesby <daffyduck2012@...>
 

Thanks for info and I just ordered some from Ken’s

 

From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cat - N via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 1:16 PM
To: Onlinesewing-Janome <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 505 Basting Spray

 

Aha!!!  I found it at Ken’s Sewing Center. I guess the trick is to search for it by name. It’s not inexpensive, as you mentioned, but I will likely order some anyway…as soon as I can. Gotta get going now, and prefer to order from PC…not CB phone. 

 

Thanks, again, Cheryl. 


- Cat

 

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 

 




On Nov 5, 2021 at 1:55 PM, <Cat - N via groups.io> wrote:

Thanks, Cheryl. I haven’t seen Janome Artistic Tack in any store, advertising, catalog, magazine, email from Janome or any dealers/resellers, or internet search, but can/will look for it…will search by name now that you’ve said it exists. 😁. Not sure if it is available in the USA…I’m in Florida (where our ‘sunshine’ is liquid all day today)…the Janome ‘mini duckling scissors’ are not sold here apparently, although they seem virtually identical (except they’re not purple) to the Gypsy ‘mini duck bill scissors’…which I have and like.  

 

Janome Artistic Tack definitely isn’t sold in the retail stores available to me locally…which is why I had to buy the 505…the only other two basting sprays ‘rattle like a paint can when shaken’ and 505 did not. I have heard of 505 for years but was very happy with the “Made in France” temporary basting spray branded by “June Tailor” but when it became “Made in the USA” (after which it ‘rattles like a paint can’ when shaken, smells funny, and gums needles), I am no longer interested in it or the two cans of it I bought a little while ago…and needed something in a hurry…hence 505 and not ordered…which is why I was/am interested in opinions from 505 spray users before it goes under my needle. 

 

Congratulations on your anniversary…definitely an accomplishment…and very nice celebration and weather, too. 


- Cat

 

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 

 




On Nov 5, 2021 at 1:33 PM, <Cheryl Paul> wrote:

Today is our 51st Wedding Anniversary - the weather today in Saskatoon is much the same as our Wedding Day when we were married in Regina.  Sun is shining and there is NO SNOW on the ground.  My housecleaners are here and brought us 4 individual hand made anniversary cards. These 4 grandchildren are the greatest, just like their 9 cousins.  We’ll probably see some of the others later today, and get messages from the 4 that live out of Saskatoon.
 
Janome has their own basting spray called "Artistic Tack”, it is fairly pricy but then so is 505 or KK2000, etc.  They also have “Artistic Clean” for cleaning off hoops if you happen to get some spray tack on them - I haven’t tried the cleaner yet, as I haven’t needed to, but the spray works well.    
 
If I were you, I’d try one can of the Artistic Tack and see if it is as good as I was told when I bought mine - I like it.  The Janome Dealer in Humboldt at Haus of Stitches swears by the product and so do some of her customers.  These ladies are sewing on expensive machines such as we are use to do our sewing and quilting.
 
Cheryl - Saskatoon
 
 
 
 
 
Cat - N
 

Cool!  I’m waiting in the car for my grandson so not ordering right now. Would love your review of the Janome Artistic Tack, once you get it. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Nov 5, 2021 at 2:48 PM, <Shirley Oglesby via groups.io> wrote:

Thanks for info and I just ordered some from Ken’s

 

From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cat - N via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 1:16 PM
To: Onlinesewing-Janome <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 505 Basting Spray

 

Aha!!!  I found it at Ken’s Sewing Center. I guess the trick is to search for it by name. It’s not inexpensive, as you mentioned, but I will likely order some anyway…as soon as I can. Gotta get going now, and prefer to order from PC…not CB phone. 

 

Thanks, again, Cheryl. 


- Cat

 

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On Nov 5, 2021 at 1:55 PM, <Cat - N via groups.io> wrote:

Thanks, Cheryl. I haven’t seen Janome Artistic Tack in any store, advertising, catalog, magazine, email from Janome or any dealers/resellers, or internet search, but can/will look for it…will search by name now that you’ve said it exists. 😁. Not sure if it is available in the USA…I’m in Florida (where our ‘sunshine’ is liquid all day today)…the Janome ‘mini duckling scissors’ are not sold here apparently, although they seem virtually identical (except they’re not purple) to the Gypsy ‘mini duck bill scissors’…which I have and like.  

 

Janome Artistic Tack definitely isn’t sold in the retail stores available to me locally…which is why I had to buy the 505…the only other two basting sprays ‘rattle like a paint can when shaken’ and 505 did not. I have heard of 505 for years but was very happy with the “Made in France” temporary basting spray branded by “June Tailor” but when it became “Made in the USA” (after which it ‘rattles like a paint can’ when shaken, smells funny, and gums needles), I am no longer interested in it or the two cans of it I bought a little while ago…and needed something in a hurry…hence 505 and not ordered…which is why I was/am interested in opinions from 505 spray users before it goes under my needle. 

 

Congratulations on your anniversary…definitely an accomplishment…and very nice celebration and weather, too. 


- Cat

 

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On Nov 5, 2021 at 1:33 PM, <Cheryl Paul> wrote:

Today is our 51st Wedding Anniversary - the weather today in Saskatoon is much the same as our Wedding Day when we were married in Regina.  Sun is shining and there is NO SNOW on the ground.  My housecleaners are here and brought us 4 individual hand made anniversary cards. These 4 grandchildren are the greatest, just like their 9 cousins.  We’ll probably see some of the others later today, and get messages from the 4 that live out of Saskatoon.
 
Janome has their own basting spray called "Artistic Tack”, it is fairly pricy but then so is 505 or KK2000, etc.  They also have “Artistic Clean” for cleaning off hoops if you happen to get some spray tack on them - I haven’t tried the cleaner yet, as I haven’t needed to, but the spray works well.    
 
If I were you, I’d try one can of the Artistic Tack and see if it is as good as I was told when I bought mine - I like it.  The Janome Dealer in Humboldt at Haus of Stitches swears by the product and so do some of her customers.  These ladies are sewing on expensive machines such as we are use to do our sewing and quilting.
 
Cheryl - Saskatoon
 
 
 
 
 
Kathy Skagen <kagen48@...>
 

Happy Anniversary to you both. 51 years is wonderful. 
Kathy

On Friday, November 5, 2021, 12:33:54 PM CDT, Cheryl Paul <capaul@...> wrote:


Today is our 51st Wedding Anniversary - the weather today in Saskatoon is much the same as our Wedding Day when we were married in Regina.  Sun is shining and there is NO SNOW on the ground.  My housecleaners are here and brought us 4 individual hand made anniversary cards. These 4 grandchildren are the greatest, just like their 9 cousins.  We’ll probably see some of the others later today, and get messages from the 4 that live out of Saskatoon.

Janome has their own basting spray called "Artistic Tack”, it is fairly pricy but then so is 505 or KK2000, etc.  They also have “Artistic Clean” for cleaning off hoops if you happen to get some spray tack on them - I haven’t tried the cleaner yet, as I haven’t needed to, but the spray works well. 

If I were you, I’d try one can of the Artistic Tack and see if it is as good as I was told when I bought mine - I like it.  The Janome Dealer in Humboldt at Haus of Stitches swears by the product and so do some of her customers.  These ladies are sewing on expensive machines such as we are use to do our sewing and quilting.

Cheryl - Saskatoon
Ceil J
 

First of all Congratulations Cheryl on 51 years!!
Here's another addition to the quilt basting sprays that I remember from a while ago.  I never made or used it as I still love the thread basting but someone might be willing to give it a try as it's low cost and the inverter claims it's effective (and the recipe is free).
Kim Jamieson-Hirst has a website at https://www.chatterboxquilts.com and if you scroll down to near the bottom right you will find out how to get her recipe.  It does look interesting.  You may have to sign up to receive it by email but you can later cancel if you're not interested in hearing from her again.  I followed her for a while but no longer do so.


On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:47 PM June E Hudspeth <juneeh@...> wrote:
Congratulations to you Cheryl and your hubby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like you will have an amazing day!

June/Sacramento (It will be 41 years for us on January 3rd).

-----Original Message-----
From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> On Behalf Of Cheryl Paul
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 10:34 AM
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 505 Basting Spray

Today is our 51st Wedding Anniversary - the weather today in Saskatoon is much the same as our Wedding Day when we were married in Regina.  Sun is shining and there is NO SNOW on the ground.  My housecleaners are here and brought us 4 individual hand made anniversary cards. These 4 grandchildren are the greatest, just like their 9 cousins.  We’ll probably see some of the others later today, and get messages from the 4 that live out of Saskatoon.

Janome has their own basting spray called "Artistic Tack”, it is fairly pricy but then so is 505 or KK2000, etc.  They also have “Artistic Clean” for cleaning off hoops if you happen to get some spray tack on them - I haven’t tried the cleaner yet, as I haven’t needed to, but the spray works well. 

If I were you, I’d try one can of the Artistic Tack and see if it is as good as I was told when I bought mine - I like it.  The Janome Dealer in Humboldt at Haus of Stitches swears by the product and so do some of her customers.  These ladies are sewing on expensive machines such as we are use to do our sewing and quilting.

Cheryl - Saskatoon
Padden, Jennifer R
 

If you go to String and Story site, Holly Ann Knight, she has a quilt basting spray recipe too.  It works really well I can attest! https://www.stringandstory.com/blog/2017/2/14/tips-tuesday-homemade-spray-baste?rq=basting%20spray
favymtz
 

Just me warning that if you use food based ingredients in a homemade spray you must wash the item because it will attract insects which will damage the fabric.
--
Favymtz
Cat - N
 

I'm not a 'germ-a-phobe' but the thought of 'food' inside my quilts made me queasy and uneasy, so not just threats from pests, but also from mold, mildew, rot, degradation, etc., staining and such, and I live in hot and humid Florida where there are sugar ants AND fire ants.  However, I thought it 'might' be worth trying...in a pinch...for something I was making for myself...so I had kept it after I found it years ago, but I was so happy with 'my' spray baste that I never tried that recipe.  I am hoping that the 505 is as good as the one I was using...that I loved.


- Cat


-----Original Message-----
From: favymtz <favymtz@...>
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Sent: Sat, Nov 6, 2021 8:58 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 505 Basting Spray

Just me warning that if you use food based ingredients in a homemade spray you must wash the item because it will attract insects which will damage the fabric.
--
Favymtz

Cheryl Paul
 

Re: Artistic Tack - temporary adhesive basting spray

No this can does not have anything in it except “spray” as far as I know - NO RATTLES, and neither does the cleaner.

I thought Janome Canada and Janome America were getting closer - like perhaps a merge in the Janome company, but apparently not. It seems that we have quite a few different things than in the USA - like Janome Canada is the distributor of Madera thread, and Iris (which I had never heard of before Michael Smith (aka Janomeman on Janome Life Blog) started doing classes on Instagram, Facebook, etc. for Janome Canada Headquarters or in short Janome HQ. He spreads the “Janome Love” as he calls it. So you see, we do get different products in different countries in the world. However, you should be able to order these things from a dealer in Canada and even get into some classes that might interest you as well. Also remember that your dollar goes farther - we have to pay anywhere from $1.25 on a good day to $1.37-1.40 on a not so good day to have ONE American dollar - that hurts when we need to purchase something from the USA. Then to top that off our stupid border holds things up for ages. I consider myself lucky that I’m able to live in Saskatoon where we have 1 local Janome (and many other brands) and 1 dealer in Humboldt, just 65 miles east of us. The Humboldt dealer is much more into Janome that the Saskatoon lady, who really pushes Pfaff as that is where she started and knows so well. It is very hard to try to think in another brand when you know a different one like the back of your hand. However, I am friend with both of these dealers and their staff and they treat me very well.

I think that Wendy from Haus of Stitches in Humboldt, would ship to you. You should be able to find her contact or other Canadian dealers on the Janome Canada website in the “search for a dealer” tab. Kathy at The Sewing Machine Store, I’ve found doesn’t place as many orders as I’d like to see, but then I don’t know how many of her customers “Spread the Janome Love” either. I know I do every chance I get, as I’ve had great success with my Janome machines in the last 35 years. I had a Pfaff 1222 before that and it was a very good machine, but friends who have the most expensive sewing/embroidery Pfaff have had their machines at the dealer for repair than in their sewing rooms, but when they work they do make beautiful embroideries but no better than my Janome’s.

Cheryl - Saskatoon
Cat - N
 

Thank you, Cheryl. I’ve become leery of rattling cans…lol

My previous spray (the good kind made in France)…and the 505…’shake like a whipped cream can’…no sound other than a soft swishy sound inside…so I shook all three brands that were sold in the store and bought the 505 in part because it did not ‘rattle like a paint can’ does. 

I have some Artistic Tack in a cart at Ken’s Sewing Center online, and need to finish out the order as soon as I can, but I am trying to get my three Yorkies bathed today because temps are supposed to drop soon, so quilting is kinda ‘on hold’ temporarily. One quilt is sandwiched and lying on my extension table, another is sandwiched but needs ‘verification’ that I like the sandwich, but hopefully I can get back on it tomorrow after getting some ‘home work’ done.  

 I understand exchange rates between countries, having lived in Germany (W. Germany at that time), and it’s tricky due to all the fluctuations.   I also purchase from folks in Australia (in addition to Wilcom) and New Zealand on a fairly regular basis, so am pretty  used to ‘the price’ being a bit different.  I haven’t been too aware of Canadian exchange rates got a while…not since I left New Hampshire but back then, the Canadian dollar was ‘weak’ against the USD, too. I did know border crossings were slow from Canada to Florida…I used to buy a specific brand of modems for my company that came from Canada. Definitely a PITA, so I tried to keep spares on hand…not easy since those were pricey and company finance folks want justification. Lol

The Pfaff machines made in Germany (and Japan…my serger, being one) were great machines, and I would have bought a German Pfaff in Germany in 1980 except I had just purchased a new machine immediately before moving to Germany. I fell in love with the Pfaff machines there, and still have a terrible soft spot for that tech. But the new Pfaff machines are Viking/Singer now and made in China, and while I have no specific ‘malice’ for China, the quality has degraded, IMHO, from the German tech.  I also do not like the downward curve on the machine bed, and much prefer the Janome (embroidery unit) footprint to the embroidery unit plugging in on the left front of the machines on other brands, including Pfaff. Just my preferences…lol

I don’t recall ever seeing “Michael Smith (aka Janomeman on Janome Life Blog)” but could be I did several years ago and have forgotten. I can look for him, though…once I get some ‘errant ducks’ here all ‘lined up in a row’ again. lol  I can’t believe we’re almost back into ‘the holidays’ and I haven’t finished stuff I thought I’d be done with before last year’s holiday’s got here. Whew!

Thank you so much for the information on Janome Artistic Tack.  I really appreciate it!


- Cat

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On Nov 7, 2021 at 10:34 AM, <Cheryl Paul> wrote:

Re:  Artistic Tack - temporary adhesive basting spray

No this can does not have anything in it except “spray” as far as I know - NO RATTLES, and neither does the cleaner.

I thought Janome Canada and Janome America were getting closer - like perhaps a merge in the Janome company, but apparently not.  It seems that we have quite a few different things than in the USA - like Janome Canada is the distributor of Madera thread, and Iris (which I had never heard of before Michael Smith (aka Janomeman on Janome Life Blog) started doing classes on Instagram, Facebook, etc. for Janome Canada Headquarters or in short Janome HQ.  He spreads the “Janome Love” as he calls it.  So you see, we do get different products in different countries in the world.  However, you should be able to order these things from a dealer in Canada and even get into some classes that might interest you as well.  Also remember that your dollar goes farther - we have to pay anywhere from $1.25 on a good day to $1.37-1.40 on a not so good day to have ONE American dollar - that hurts when we need to purchase something from the USA.  Then to top that off our stupid border holds things up for ages.  I consider myself lucky that I’m able to live in Saskatoon where we have 1 local Janome (and many other brands) and 1 dealer in Humboldt, just 65 miles east of us.  The Humboldt dealer is much more into Janome that the Saskatoon lady, who really pushes Pfaff as that is where she started and knows so well.  It is very hard to try to think in another brand when you know a different one like the back of your hand.  However, I am friend with both of these dealers and their staff and they treat me very well.

I think that Wendy from Haus of Stitches in Humboldt, would ship to you.  You should be able to find her contact or other Canadian dealers on the Janome Canada website in the “search for a dealer” tab.  Kathy at The Sewing Machine Store, I’ve found doesn’t place as many orders as I’d like to see, but then I don’t know how many of her customers “Spread the Janome Love” either.  I know I do every chance I get, as I’ve had great success with my Janome machines in the last 35 years.  I had a Pfaff 1222 before that and it was a very good machine, but friends who have the most expensive sewing/embroidery Pfaff have had their machines at the dealer for repair than in their sewing rooms, but when they work they do make beautiful embroideries but no better than my Janome’s.

Cheryl - Saskatoon

Cynthia Dickerson
 

Artistic Tack, $24.99 plus $12.00 shipping?  I don't think so!  Things are just getting rediculous!  I will figure out another way.  
JoAnn Novak
 

  I agree!  Why do so many sites gouge for shipping??

 JoAnn

Life's biggest decision is what you do with Jesus.
On 11/8/2021 9:42 AM, Cynthia Dickerson wrote:

Artistic Tack, $24.99 plus $12.00 shipping?  I don't think so!  Things are just getting rediculous!  I will figure out another way.  

Lynda Lu Gibb
 


On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 7:27 AM JoAnn Novak <vinjosew@...> wrote:

  I agree!  Why do so many sites gouge for shipping??

 JoAnn

Life's biggest decision is what you do with Jesus.
On 11/8/2021 9:42 AM, Cynthia Dickerson wrote:
Artistic Tack, $24.99 plus $12.00 shipping?  I don't think so!  Things are just getting rediculous!  I will figure out another way.  

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