Date
21 - 28 of 28
15000 bobbin case spinning...
Cat - N
No biggie. I initially thought it was interesting that all of the other prewounds sold as a gross (qty 144) but Janome prewounds sold as qty 108, so I was curious that the Janome prewounds might have a gross qty 144 for sale, too. I have plenty of Janome prewounds already but always looking. Thanks for the clarification.
- Cat (FL)
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From: Patricia Ward <ward.pm@...>
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Sent: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 15000 bobbin case spinning...
From: Patricia Ward <ward.pm@...>
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Sent: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 8:25 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 15000 bobbin case spinning...
Cat, my mistake! I looked at the box and it is 108 that I bought. Sorry, it is so many that I just thought it was the 144.
Pat
On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:12 PM, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:
Interesting...I only use Janome prewounds, but the only ones I have seen for sale were sold in a quantity of 108...not 144.
- Cat (FL)
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From: Patricia Ward <ward.pm@...>
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Sent: Thu, Jan 19, 2023 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 15000 bobbin case spinning...
I won’t use anything but genuine Janome prewounds in my machine. You can get them from a dealer. There is a dealer in Va by the name of Amy who sells the boxes of 144 white Janome prewounds for a reasonable price.Pat
On Jan 19, 2023, at 7:44 PM, Fiona Taylor-Williams <f.taylorwilliams@...> wrote:Has anyone ever tried Peavytailor prewound bobbins in their 15000. I found them on Amazon but am a leery of putting something in my machine I don’t know anything about. I looked for anything Coats but only found black and white Coats and Clark.ThanksFiona
On Jan 19, 2023, at 5:19 PM, SewingRose <newbuild2012@...> wrote:
Favymtz, the bobbin jiggle is something I've done since buying my very first Janome 6000 when it was first released in the early 80's, and I've never had a jumping bobbin case or needle strike either, nor have I had to replace a bobbin case.
Nobody told me to do it, it's just something I started doing and have done for 40 years and back when I was teaching sewing/patchwork/quilting/etc I passed this onto students as well. Another thing I do is flip the bobbin case over and place a tiny drop of oil on the shoulder of the bobbin case then smear it around that edge with your finger tip...not a lot of oil (don't drown it) but just enough to make the bobbin case glide smoothly, plus it keeps the machine quiet. Too much oil can be as bad as no oil.
Learning the sounds of a dry bobbin case and/or blunt needle make a huge difference to sewing results and keeps our machines running in tip-top condition. Embroidery machines do a whole lot more stitching than regular sewing, therefore need TLC more often.
I've also used prewound bobbins since my first embroidery machine (9000) for the last 20+ years. Initially only white or black were available but good old eBay led me to a lady in the US who was selling boxes of Coats and ?Robinson (not in my sewing room just now, but will check later) prewounds in many colours. They were one gross boxes and to save on shipping costs I bought a box of each colour (13) then she filled a last box with mixed colours which came from broken boxes and in shorter supply, so I ended up with 14 gross of prewounds which took 3 months to arrive because at that time they came by sea, which was the cheapest international shipping option for larger or heavier items.
So I have only ever made that one purchase of prewounds and will have enough to see me through. At times I've sold some and always include a selection when I sell an embroidery machine, after upgrading to the next. Being able to colour-match bobbin thread when embroidering items such as bath towels etc has been good and I've even done FSL (free standing lace) using a coloured prewound in both top and bobbin, so the lace ends up being much finer. I have also used them in the overlocker when I wanted to do a rolled hem on some very fine fabric and the result was perfect and, of course, having the exact colour was an added bonus.
Not sure if a new topic needs started...but I've had wonderful results in MC12000 with these pre-wounds, have used for embroidery, and also on my serger (for the teeniest rolled hem on poly georgette formal gown with many layers). Amazon.com: New brothread 25pcs Assorted Colors 70D/2 (60WT) Prewound Bobbin Thread Plastic Size A SA156 for Embroidery and Sewing Machine DIY Embroidery Thread Sewing Thread : Arts, Crafts & Sewing
favymtz
Sewing Rose, thanks for your input. I too have never had a jumping bobbin case, and the only times I’ve had bobbin holder damage has been when I’ve had a breaking needle strike it and scar it!
Re Prewounds, that sounds like a good bargain you got on the colored bobbins. I don’t buy prewounds anymore but had a gross box for my ‘other brand’ machine that I don’t own anymore, but I still have a few left. I have been winding off that thread onto Janome bobbins because they were the ‘L’ size bobbins. I also know that the Janome prewounds are usually/sometimes too full and have to unwind several yards of thread off of them to get good stitching at the beginning of a new bobbin.
Having a too full bobbin will also yank the bobbin holder up.
You are 100% correct that we need to learn the sounds of our machines and to take good care of them. They work hard for us!
~Favymtz
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 3:19 PM
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Favymtz
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2023 3:19 PM
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 15000 bobbin case spinning...
Favymtz, the bobbin jiggle is something I've done since buying my very first Janome 6000 when it was first released in the early 80's, and I've never had a jumping bobbin case or needle strike either, nor have I had to replace a bobbin case.
Nobody told me to do it, it's just something I started doing and have done for 40 years and back when I was teaching sewing/patchwork/quilting/etc I passed this onto students as well. Another thing I do is flip the bobbin case over and place a tiny drop of oil on the shoulder of the bobbin case then smear it around that edge with your finger tip...not a lot of oil (don't drown it) but just enough to make the bobbin case glide smoothly, plus it keeps the machine quiet. Too much oil can be as bad as no oil.
Learning the sounds of a dry bobbin case and/or blunt needle make a huge difference to sewing results and keeps our machines running in tip-top condition. Embroidery machines do a whole lot more stitching than regular sewing, therefore need TLC more often.
I've also used prewound bobbins since my first embroidery machine (9000) for the last 20+ years. Initially only white or black were available but good old eBay led me to a lady in the US who was selling boxes of Coats and ?Robinson (not in my sewing room just now, but will check later) prewounds in many colours. They were one gross boxes and to save on shipping costs I bought a box of each colour (13) then she filled a last box with mixed colours which came from broken boxes and in shorter supply, so I ended up with 14 gross of prewounds which took 3 months to arrive because at that time they came by sea, which was the cheapest international shipping option for larger or heavier items.
So I have only ever made that one purchase of prewounds and will have enough to see me through. At times I've sold some and always include a selection when I sell an embroidery machine, after upgrading to the next. Being able to colour-match bobbin thread when embroidering items such as bath towels etc has been good and I've even done FSL (free standing lace) using a coloured prewound in both top and bobbin, so the lace ends up being much finer. I have also used them in the overlocker when I wanted to do a rolled hem on some very fine fabric and the result was perfect and, of course, having the exact colour was an added bonus.
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Favymtz
favymtz
Ti my knowledge no, only white and black.
Favymtz
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 9:05 AM Fiona Taylor-Williams <f.taylorwilliams@...> wrote:
Does Janome have coloured pre wounds? I have only seen black and white but would love some coloured ones.
Fiona
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Favymtz
Favymtz
Cheryl Paul
In Canada and the USA, most accessories are sold in a “blister pack”, where you through away the plastic covering (if you wish) and keep the back cover as it contains information on the use of which ever item you’ve purchased in pretty good detail. However, IF the dealer orders a number of bobbin cases at once, or feet they may get them in bulk, so therefore there would be NO blister pack. If I was purchasing one of the “bulk” items from MY dealer I would trust it to be an authentic item, because I trust my dealer - I have 2 dealers close and I buy from both. Each have trained technicians to service Janome machines, and both are good technicians. I feel fortunate to have options - one 10 km away and the other 100 km (1 hour 15 min) from door to theirs. The farthest away dealer also has a fabric shop, so I get double spending options as well. I think the most important thing to remember is to buy from a reputable dealer the items you need, especially things like bobbin cases and bobbins, because they require the use of the accuracy the sewing or embroidery machine really needs to operate. We don’t like hiccups, or worst case scenario - disaster to happen while we are enjoying our sewing time.
I have been through bobbin cases on most of my machines at sometime or another, and with my 12000 or 15000, I finally “got it” - I was probably most of the problem. I’m not sure about my 11000, because I know I went through so many bobbin cases - more than a dozen I’m sure in the 9 years that I sewed on that machine almost every day. It happened both when I was sewing and also when embroidering, but I can’t remember which was the most most. I’m not sure that the thread was always in the take-up lever, even though I listened carefully for that “click” as I threaded. I think that as time went by that the little spring might have been spongy and didn’t hold the bobbin case as well as it should. I know that Eric, the local technician, had the part #OILSTONE back in those days. I do know that he did have it later. My original dealer, lost the Janome Dealership, and new dealer might have been the one that got the #OILSTONE in about 2011, bet he may have had it in his tool box sooner that that. My old brain only remembers what it absolutely needs to these days.
I have not had any issues with my 2 newest machines the Continental M7, and the new Continental M17, but they have a new bobbin case. It was with the M7 about 3 years ago that I noticed that now Janome has a part number engraved in the bobbin cases, with a weight in grams which is the number of the tension weight needed for the thread to pass through the tension disks for quilting, regular sewing and embroidery. I don’t think that this number on the bobbin cases for the machines prior to the Continental series should be different than the ones that came on the 12000, 15000 and other machines that use these new looking bobbin cases should make any difference from the one that came in any of the machines many years ago. It is just that now there is an identifying number to reference what you have in your sewing box, when you need to change from a “blue” to a “red” case for specific projects being sewed.
Let’s have some fun sewing. I’m needing some inspiration so hopefully it will come as soon as my Grandmother duties are finished tomorrow night when I turn a set of 4 (aged 11, 13, 15 and 17) back to their parents. Thank goodness that our Grandson has a car and a driver’s license to he;p with the “getting to events”. The youngest got an ankle injury the day Mom and Dad left, so Grandma and Rachel spent a half day at the Doctor for X-rays, getting crutches, etc. so she could get around. I think that this family at least needs to reevaluate trampolines. The sister just older broke an arm - badly, on the trampoline in the backyard. I think that 2 injuries in one family is enough. I have 3 other families with kids too - 12 grands under 18 down to the youngest being 6.
Cheryl - Saskatoon
I have been through bobbin cases on most of my machines at sometime or another, and with my 12000 or 15000, I finally “got it” - I was probably most of the problem. I’m not sure about my 11000, because I know I went through so many bobbin cases - more than a dozen I’m sure in the 9 years that I sewed on that machine almost every day. It happened both when I was sewing and also when embroidering, but I can’t remember which was the most most. I’m not sure that the thread was always in the take-up lever, even though I listened carefully for that “click” as I threaded. I think that as time went by that the little spring might have been spongy and didn’t hold the bobbin case as well as it should. I know that Eric, the local technician, had the part #OILSTONE back in those days. I do know that he did have it later. My original dealer, lost the Janome Dealership, and new dealer might have been the one that got the #OILSTONE in about 2011, bet he may have had it in his tool box sooner that that. My old brain only remembers what it absolutely needs to these days.
I have not had any issues with my 2 newest machines the Continental M7, and the new Continental M17, but they have a new bobbin case. It was with the M7 about 3 years ago that I noticed that now Janome has a part number engraved in the bobbin cases, with a weight in grams which is the number of the tension weight needed for the thread to pass through the tension disks for quilting, regular sewing and embroidery. I don’t think that this number on the bobbin cases for the machines prior to the Continental series should be different than the ones that came on the 12000, 15000 and other machines that use these new looking bobbin cases should make any difference from the one that came in any of the machines many years ago. It is just that now there is an identifying number to reference what you have in your sewing box, when you need to change from a “blue” to a “red” case for specific projects being sewed.
Let’s have some fun sewing. I’m needing some inspiration so hopefully it will come as soon as my Grandmother duties are finished tomorrow night when I turn a set of 4 (aged 11, 13, 15 and 17) back to their parents. Thank goodness that our Grandson has a car and a driver’s license to he;p with the “getting to events”. The youngest got an ankle injury the day Mom and Dad left, so Grandma and Rachel spent a half day at the Doctor for X-rays, getting crutches, etc. so she could get around. I think that this family at least needs to reevaluate trampolines. The sister just older broke an arm - badly, on the trampoline in the backyard. I think that 2 injuries in one family is enough. I have 3 other families with kids too - 12 grands under 18 down to the youngest being 6.
Cheryl - Saskatoon
Ann Jones
Good morning fron sunny Au
Have followed this thread with interest. I have not experienced the bobbin case issues on my machines. When threading the bobbin tend to put finger on it when passing thread around its path. Guess that the same as "jiggling".
My machines seem to accept a range of non Janome bobbins but with prewound I look for the Class 15 (size A) size.
WonderFil has a great multi coloured pack that has caused no issue. Use a 90w Coats bobbin thread for both sewing and embroidery and wind matching thread onto bobbins for FSL or when matching colour the better option.
I started with the 8000, the 7400 and now the 500E and 9400 plus a Brother embroidery machine. Yes I exchange bobbins between the two; and no, have not had any bobbin created issues. I tend to clean bobbin area frequently and oil as required. Service also.
One reply mentioned knowing the sound of your machines. Agree totally.
I hear when a bobbin runs out of thread when embroidering - use the remaining thread option, when the machine stops switch that off and sit till hear the empty sound (watch top thread too).
I do hope both the bobbin and thread issues are resolved satisfactorily.
Ann
On Saturday, 21 January 2023, 4:08:53 AM ACDT, Cheryl Paul <capaul@...> wrote:
In Canada and the USA, most accessories are sold in a “blister pack”, where you through away the plastic covering (if you wish) and keep the back cover as it contains information on the use of which ever item you’ve purchased in pretty good detail. However, IF the dealer orders a number of bobbin cases at once, or feet they may get them in bulk, so therefore there would be NO blister pack. If I was purchasing one of the “bulk” items from MY dealer I would trust it to be an authentic item, because I trust my dealer - I have 2 dealers close and I buy from both. Each have trained technicians to service Janome machines, and both are good technicians. I feel fortunate to have options - one 10 km away and the other 100 km (1 hour 15 min) from door to theirs. The farthest away dealer also has a fabric shop, so I get double spending options as well. I think the most important thing to remember is to buy from a reputable dealer the items you need, especially things like bobbin cases and bobbins, because they require the use of the accuracy the sewing or embroidery machine really needs to operate. We don’t like hiccups, or worst case scenario - disaster to happen while we are enjoying our sewing time.
I have been through bobbin cases on most of my machines at sometime or another, and with my 12000 or 15000, I finally “got it” - I was probably most of the problem. I’m not sure about my 11000, because I know I went through so many bobbin cases - more than a dozen I’m sure in the 9 years that I sewed on that machine almost every day. It happened both when I was sewing and also when embroidering, but I can’t remember which was the most most. I’m not sure that the thread was always in the take-up lever, even though I listened carefully for that “click” as I threaded. I think that as time went by that the little spring might have been spongy and didn’t hold the bobbin case as well as it should. I know that Eric, the local technician, had the part #OILSTONE back in those days. I do know that he did have it later. My original dealer, lost the Janome Dealership, and new dealer might have been the one that got the #OILSTONE in about 2011, bet he may have had it in his tool box sooner that that. My old brain only remembers what it absolutely needs to these days.
I have not had any issues with my 2 newest machines the Continental M7, and the new Continental M17, but they have a new bobbin case. It was with the M7 about 3 years ago that I noticed that now Janome has a part number engraved in the bobbin cases, with a weight in grams which is the number of the tension weight needed for the thread to pass through the tension disks for quilting, regular sewing and embroidery. I don’t think that this number on the bobbin cases for the machines prior to the Continental series should be different than the ones that came on the 12000, 15000 and other machines that use these new looking bobbin cases should make any difference from the one that came in any of the machines many years ago. It is just that now there is an identifying number to reference what you have in your sewing box, when you need to change from a “blue” to a “red” case for specific projects being sewed.
Let’s have some fun sewing. I’m needing some inspiration so hopefully it will come as soon as my Grandmother duties are finished tomorrow night when I turn a set of 4 (aged 11, 13, 15 and 17) back to their parents. Thank goodness that our Grandson has a car and a driver’s license to he;p with the “getting to events”. The youngest got an ankle injury the day Mom and Dad left, so Grandma and Rachel spent a half day at the Doctor for X-rays, getting crutches, etc. so she could get around. I think that this family at least needs to reevaluate trampolines. The sister just older broke an arm - badly, on the trampoline in the backyard. I think that 2 injuries in one family is enough. I have 3 other families with kids too - 12 grands under 18 down to the youngest being 6.
Cheryl - Saskatoon