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Re: Installing Skyline S9 machine update.

Kathleen Chevalier
 

I found it and have saved the .pdf with the instructions. I inserted the USB into the machine and turned it on while holding down the needle up-down and lock stitch buttons. I got a yellow screen with ERROR. I'm reformatting the USB, which is 2 GB, and will try again. Thanks anyway.

On Thu 6/17/2021 12:08 PM, Kathleen Chevalier wrote:

I am finally getting around to update my light blue Skyline S9. I followed the instructions so I have a USB stick with the extracted files on it. I put the USB stick into the machine and turned it on. It just goes into sewing mode. The instructions say to start the S9 in "Update Mode" but I can't find any directions to do that. Help will be appreciated.


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Kathleen Chevalier
western Pennsylvania


Installing Skyline S9 machine update.

Kathleen Chevalier
 

I am finally getting around to update my light blue Skyline S9. I followed the instructions so I have a USB stick with the extracted files on it. I put the USB stick into the machine and turned it on. It just goes into sewing mode. The instructions say to start the S9 in "Update Mode" but I can't find any directions to do that. Help will be appreciated.


Re: Can't get the needle bar to move

Kathy Skagen
 

Sounds amazing for quilters!

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 02:11:14 PM CDT, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:


A Tin Lizzie 18 is a long arm quilter with an 18” throat. The 15000 has 11” to the right of the needle but the throat on a long arm is to the back of the machine. A long arm moves over a quilt on a frame. The quilt moves under the needle on the 15000. We have a stool nearby, but use it for resting and watching the robot quilt…not for free or ruler quilting. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Jun 15, 2021 at 12:15 PM, <Kathy Skagen> wrote:

I have never seen a Tin Lizzie but would a chair that has an adjustable seat that can be raised help? I'm 5'3 and that helps me with my regular sewing machines.

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 10:55:53 AM CDT, Sally Silvers <salsewsart@...> wrote:


My machine is  Tin Lizzie 18, too.  It has served me well with light use (life gets in the way) and even surviving a move.  My one complaint is that I can't see where I'm going when I stitch backwards.  I'm short, only about 5' and think maybe if Lizzie were lower, I'd see better.  Any suggestions would be welcome.


Re: Can't get the needle bar to move

Cat - N
 

A Tin Lizzie 18 is a long arm quilter with an 18” throat. The 15000 has 11” to the right of the needle but the throat on a long arm is to the back of the machine. A long arm moves over a quilt on a frame. The quilt moves under the needle on the 15000. We have a stool nearby, but use it for resting and watching the robot quilt…not for free or ruler quilting. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Jun 15, 2021 at 12:15 PM, <Kathy Skagen> wrote:

I have never seen a Tin Lizzie but would a chair that has an adjustable seat that can be raised help? I'm 5'3 and that helps me with my regular sewing machines.

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 10:55:53 AM CDT, Sally Silvers <salsewsart@...> wrote:


My machine is  Tin Lizzie 18, too.  It has served me well with light use (life gets in the way) and even surviving a move.  My one complaint is that I can't see where I'm going when I stitch backwards.  I'm short, only about 5' and think maybe if Lizzie were lower, I'd see better.  Any suggestions would be welcome.


Re: Can't get the needle bar to move

Cat - N
 

Is your frame height adjustable? If so, maybe lower it…which will lower the machine, too.    

Is anything else blocking view…presser foot…inadequate lighting?   We got a clear presser foot that is rounded in the underside and use that except for rulers. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Jun 15, 2021 at 11:55 AM, <Sally Silvers> wrote:

My machine is  Tin Lizzie 18, too.  It has served me well with light use (life gets in the way) and even surviving a move.  My one complaint is that I can't see where I'm going when I stitch backwards.  I'm short, only about 5' and think maybe if Lizzie were lower, I'd see better.  Any suggestions would be welcome.


Re: Can't get the needle bar to move

Kathy Skagen
 

I have never seen a Tin Lizzie but would a chair that has an adjustable seat that can be raised help? I'm 5'3 and that helps me with my regular sewing machines.

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021, 10:55:53 AM CDT, Sally Silvers <salsewsart@...> wrote:


My machine is  Tin Lizzie 18, too.  It has served me well with light use (life gets in the way) and even surviving a move.  My one complaint is that I can't see where I'm going when I stitch backwards.  I'm short, only about 5' and think maybe if Lizzie were lower, I'd see better.  Any suggestions would be welcome.


Re: Can't get the needle bar to move

Sally Silvers
 

My machine is  Tin Lizzie 18, too.  It has served me well with light use (life gets in the way) and even surviving a move.  My one complaint is that I can't see where I'm going when I stitch backwards.  I'm short, only about 5' and think maybe if Lizzie were lower, I'd see better.  Any suggestions would be welcome.


Re: Can't get the needle bar to move

Cat - N
 

A similar thing happened here a few years ago with hubby's long arm (made by Tin Lizzy) and it was thread in the bobbin area that caused it, too. I didn't know there was any issue at first because it took hubby by such surprise that he immediately called tech support...his long arm was very new when it happened, and we'd had a couple of the new parts that we bought with it (upgraded tablet controller and quilting robot) replaced because they didn't work correctly  We'd even wondered if we'd been accidentally shipped a machine/system that had been returned for having 'infant mortality' issues.

I’m glad your machine is going again.

- Cat





Re: Can't get the needle bar to move

Sally Silvers
 

Jim, thank you so much.  Just knowing you would respond, I was able to sleep last night.  This morning, with the machine off, the bobbin removed and making sure there was no thread in the hook race, I was able to move the needle manually with the  hand wheel.  That did the trick!  I wouldn't have thought of that without your kind response.  I'm very grateful!


Tech support expiration on 15000

JoAnn Novak
 

 I would stick with the 12000, the 15000 is over priced.   I may never use many of the features with the 15000.    JoAnn

Life's biggest decision is what you do with Jesus.

On 6/14/2021 7:59 AM, Stockman via groups.io wrote:
My first machine was a 10000 which I traded up to 11000, and traded that for the 12000.  I have had the 12000 for nine years   and have had no repairs other then a light issue that I broke.   I love Janome machines and sing their praises whenever  I can.  Two of my sisters have switched to the Janome brand also.   I live in Michigan and was considering the dealers offer which would have been an impulsive purchase.  At some point I think I will buy the 15000, but in the meantime I will continue to enjoy sewing on my 12000.   Thanks again for all the comments. 


Re: Tech support expiration on 15000

Maria Morrow
 

I have the 15000.  I have used the embroidery unit twice. I have only 179 sewing hours on it.  I just don’t use it for all its benefits.  It was just cleaned by my dealer. It works great.  I have every accessory that came with it. 

I have two smaller Janomes.  With those and longarming, my 15000 just will never realize her potential.  

Please email me if interested. 

Maria Morrow
MamaMiaQuilting@...
Mobile:  985-640-5024

On Jun 10, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Narda Poulin via groups.io <nardapoulin@...> wrote:

 I Think $9000 is way too much for the 15000...I bought mine $6000 4 years ago


Re: Tech support expiration on 15000

Marlyn
 
Edited

My first machine was a 10000 which I traded up to 11000, and traded that for the 12000.  I have had the 12000 for nine years   and have had no repairs other then a light issue that I broke.   I love Janome machines and sing their praises whenever  I can.  Two of my sisters have switched to the Janome brand also.   I live in Michigan and was considering the dealers offer which would have been an impulsive purchase.  Yesterday, I stopped by another dealer, he wants $10,000 for the 15000 with no trade in.  He said he the lack of chips will continue to effect inventory and prices are going up on these types of machines for the next couple of years.  At some point I think I will buy the 15000, but in the meantime I will continue to enjoy sewing on my 12000.   Thanks again for all the comments.


Re: Can't get the needle bar to move

Jim Stutsman
 

There are a couple of things that could have happened. Depending on where the thread was when it broke, it may have caught between the hook and the hook race. Remove the bobbin case. You should be able to remove the hook. I’m not familiar with that machine, but there are usually a couple of spring clips that hold the cover over the hook. If you take out the hook you should be able to move the needle bar.

The other possibility is that the free end of the broken thread got pulled into the machine by the hand wheel and wrapped around the shaft. This is unlikely, but it can happen. Depending on how much thread got pulled in, that can be challenging to remove. You may need dealer assistance, though it’s not likely to be the cause.


Can't get the needle bar to move

Sally Silvers
 

I was sewing along beautifully on my Tin Lizzie 18 until the top thread broke.  Then my machine jammed.  The motor hums, but I can't get the needle to move up or down.  I would sure appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks!
Sally


Re: Needle question

Claire Schutz
 

I have always used Schmetz ELx705 on Elna 925 DCX which is part of Janome for approx 24yrs, no problem,Claire S.

On 6/12/2021 6:51 AM, Lyn Quine wrote:
Thank you Jim I’ll have a look at that, ELX705 needles aren’t as easy to find as my usual needles.  It’s Amazon or the odd quilt shops here in the UK.


On 12 Jun 2021, at 12:33, Jim Stutsman via groups.io <onlinesewing@...> wrote:

We were BabyLock dealers very early in our dealership, and only for a couple of years. At that time the needles used by BL were very different from standard machine needles. I remember that vividly, because in servicing a Memory Craft 8000 I accidentally put in a BL serger needle. I spent quite some time trying to adjust what appeared to be a very out-of-spec needle bar height, before realizing my error. I don't know anything about EXL705 needles, but if the length of the needle, position of the eye, and flat appears the same they might work. If the diameter of the needle is different it might be hard to get it the needle clamp. If you want to try a household needle, just turn the hand wheel through several cycles, slowly, to make sure the loopers don't hit the needle. If everything is clear it should be OK.


Re: Needle question

Lyn Quine
 

Thanks Pixey, Inhadnt noticed many differences in the needles to be honest.  I’m in the UK getting ELX needles isn’t so easy.  I haven’t found many places to buy them although I can get them through Amazon.  It may get easier over time, Babylock isn’t as popular in the UK as in the States, we don’t have the Babylock embroidery and sewing machines here, we just seem to have the servers and cover lock machines.  A lot of our parts and accessories come in from Germany.  



On 12 Jun 2021, at 15:35, Jim Stutsman via groups.io <onlinesewing@...> wrote:

Good catch. Thanks Pixey!


Re: Needle question

HEATHER COWAN
 

If you google Marathon Threads Canada. they are in Winnipeg, there is a menu for needles and then one for flat and one for round.  They give a great description of Organ needles.  EXL 705 has a longer scarf and two grooves ……. I love this site and as a Canuck it is nice to have them here in Canada.  Their Embroidery supplies are great and I get all my needles here and thread …….


ELx705 Flat Shank Serger and Cover Stitching Needles

This flat shank needle is made specifically for cover stitching and serging, e.g. for sergers that do cover stitches. This needle has a slightly longer scarf and 2 grooves.
We stock this needle in a Ball Point and also a Sharp (Regular) Point.



Re: Needle question

Jim Stutsman
 

Good catch. Thanks Pixey!


Re: Tech support expiration on 15000

Linda Thompson
 

I purchased a new 15000 V 3 1.5 years ago for $10,000 without a trade in.  It’s beautiful, the hoop is plenty big.  I cannot fathom a larger hoop.  So you are only getting $1,000 as a trade in.  I would not give him $9000 knowing a new machine will be here in less than 3 months.  Keep what you have, buy the 15000 later on when the prices are much less…or you can buy a used one for much less that was used as a trade in in September.  He is not playing fairly.  Your 12000 is still working, isn’t it…so be patient.  

 


Re: Needle question

Pixey
 

Actually the serger I just sold (Janome 1100D) and my CoverPro use ELx705 needles.  So does my mom’s Janome 1200D.  I don’t think the ELx705 needles are interchangeable with regular sewing needles on these sergers.  The back of the needle is very different from a regular sewing needle.  The ELx705 has a longer and slightly different shaped indented area above the eye, as well as being a little flatter with a groove that runs all the way down the back.  I thing this is to accommodate the chaining finger.

You MIGHT be able to use a standard needle if all you were doing was basic 2,3,4 thread safety overlock serging  but I think if your machine is designed to also do flat lock, chain stitching, or cover lock stitches, you risk the back of the needle colliding with other moving parts.

Schmetz makes an ELx705 that is generally not that hard to find at sewing chain stores.  Ironically, the sergers requiring these needles were the only Janome machines I have ever had that actually came with Schmetz needles and did not appear to be optimized to Organ needles.

Pixey


On Jun 12, 2021, at 6:58 AM, Lyn Quine <lynquine@...> wrote:

 Thank you Jim I’ll have a look at that, ELX705 needles aren’t as easy to find as my usual needles.  It’s Amazon or the odd quilt shops here in the UK.


On 12 Jun 2021, at 12:33, Jim Stutsman via groups.io <onlinesewing@...> wrote:

We were BabyLock dealers very early in our dealership, and only for a couple of years. At that time the needles used by BL were very different from standard machine needles. I remember that vividly, because in servicing a Memory Craft 8000 I accidentally put in a BL serger needle. I spent quite some time trying to adjust what appeared to be a very out-of-spec needle bar height, before realizing my error. I don't know anything about EXL705 needles, but if the length of the needle, position of the eye, and flat appears the same they might work. If the diameter of the needle is different it might be hard to get it the needle clamp. If you want to try a household needle, just turn the hand wheel through several cycles, slowly, to make sure the loopers don't hit the needle. If everything is clear it should be OK.

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