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Re: Digest Number 1032

jeanelizabeth1@...
 

Hello Jim I am thinking about purtching a new computer.I have a 12,000 would ACER OR ASUS work with my machine.
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JeanElizabeth


Jim says:
It's not your machine that you really need to be concerned about. Any computer that runs Windows is fine for the machine. What you need to consider is what extra software you might want to us, in particular Digitizer. Digitizing software requires better graphics and more RAM than the generic software included with your machine. If you plan to get Digitizer in the next year or two, get as much RAM as you can afford with the best graphics. One way to get help with that in a store is to tell the salesperson you want something good for computer games. If Digitizer is not something you'll ever want to use, then pretty much any Windows computer will be fine.

15000

JoAnn Novak
 

I just purchased Janome 15000.  I would like to know what size prewound bobbins

this machine uses.

Thank you, JoAnn

Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

Claire Schutz
 

Being a new 15K owner can't compare the 12K other than the 15 is 9mm along with the other things mentioned.  That is good when stitching in the ditch and that type of work. As for the threader I now feel very happy mine works fine, had the 11K which was terrible and never worked no matter how much adj were made.  To make the change is so personal a decision due to $$, what is necessary, etc.  That is why I never updated the 11K I had, wanted too much for upgrades and now I am glad I waited, however, there were a lot of difference between the 11K and the 15K.  Good luck, Claire S.


On 4/27/2014 12:33 PM, Milton Frazier wrote:
 

Michelle, trust me no matter what is being suggested.  I disagree that the 12,000 is outdated technology.  The threader on the 15,000 has been giving many issues, my manual on the 12,000 works every time.  Many that are in my classes do not use the threader on the 15,000 for just that reason.  Yes the 15,000 does embrioder 200,000 stitches but I am perfectly comfortable with my limit of 100,000,  The quilting designs included with the 15,000 are not much different with the 12,000 quilt program which is available for our machine.  I think if I was going to trade my 12,000 I would wait till a really BIG difference in machines is available.  Not much difference in the capability of the 12,000 to the 15,000.  Just my opinion.  


Virginia


-----Original Message-----
From: seabreezequilts
To: janome12000
Sent: Sun, Apr 27, 2014 10:30 am
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

 
Wow Virginia - that's a great idea! I'll check that out!
I agree - they do seem almost the same - which sways me towards the 12000. ($2000 would buy a lot of fabric!!) But then I feel a bit of a pang buying out dated technology. 
Hmmm. 
Still wavering!
Thakns for your suggestions!

Michelle :)

Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

Susan
 

I still have my 10000 but LOVE the 15000 (traded in a Brother) as I often do multiples of designs (especially flowers that turn into bouquets for gifts) and find the large hoops save me time by not having to change my bobbin thread (it has to match, alas) as often.  

 

 

On 04/28/2014 05:37 AM, Lou Ann Bush wrote:

 

 

Money WAS a factor in my decision which is why I went with the 12000 knowing that a new TOL was coming out soon and the dealer was offering specials on the 12's to get rid of them.  That being said, I'm kind of glad I stayed with the 12 because of all the comments I've seen in here with needle threader problems.  However, when I got to see the 15 in action at one of the combined 12/15 classes, I was envious of the large screen and how quiet it was compared to my machine.  I didn't think I would ever want to embroider a design even approaching 200,000 stitches but with the large hoops Janome provides, I've since seen many designs out there that are over 100,000 stitches.  Oh well.   I've still got a year to pay off the loan so won't be trading anytime soon and at the prices for TOL machines I hope mine lasts a long, long time:)  

Re: Internet Explorer vulnerability

Carrie <dobzac@...>
 

Thank you Jim, it's reassuring to know we have a "watchdog" that understands the electronic world!! Left to own devices I'd be in deep trouble!! Thank you again!

Carrie

Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

ceilsews <no_reply@...>
 

I would like to add that I've never had a problem with my needle threader on my 15000 once I realized that you had to let the machine control the presser foot.  I've finally gotten to the point where I rarely use the manual pressure foot control.  The machine threads the needle every time for me. (exceptions would be thick thread or nylon invisible thread)
I think it's wrong to characterize the machine as having problems with the needle threader.  I do believe, of course, that there have been machines with faulty threaders, but guessing at the number of reports vs number of machines, it's rare.  And I certainly wouldn't discourage anyone from buying this machine for that reason.  The only reason to buy the 12000 over this one, in my opinion, is that you can get the 12000 for a lower price as it's no longer the newest machine.  That might be a great decision for some people as it too, is a great machine. 

Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

Linda M
 

Money.. Yup.. a major factor in any decision.  I have the 15000 have trouble with the needle threader but it doesn't bother me since I hated that thing on my 11000, I never upgraded to the 12000 as my dealer said it wasn't worth doing, to wait for the next machine and I did..  My first embroidery machine was a Kenmore Elite Ergo 19010 and it had a 4.3" embroidery field round spring hoop, never thought I'd need bigger.. but bigger is useful especially if you are a quilter..  :)  sure helps for some of the designs..

Linda M.



On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Lou Ann Bush <louannbush@...> wrote:
 

Money WAS a factor in my decision which is why I went with the 12000 knowing that a new TOL was coming out soon and the dealer was offering specials on the 12's to get rid of them.  That being said, I'm kind of glad I stayed with the 12 because of all the comments I've seen in here with needle threader problems.  However, when I got to see the 15 in action at one of the combined 12/15 classes, I was envious of the large screen and how quiet it was compared to my machine.  I didn't think I would ever want to embroider a design even approaching 200,000 stitches but with the large hoops Janome provides, I've since seen many designs out there that are over 100,000 stitches.  Oh well.   I've still got a year to pay off the loan so won't be trading anytime soon and at the prices for TOL machines I hope mine lasts a long, long time:)  




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Linda M.

Re: Longarm machine

shejmartin1
 

Tin Lizzie has been running a special price which I'm not sure is available any more.

Plus I live in northern Illinois and one of their training centers is in Janesville WI which is not too far from me.


Sherry

Design view in MBX's Easy Design...

nckrause@...
 

Hope most of you are enjoying a sunny Monday also!

 

I have a question about viewing a design in Digitizer MBX's Easy Design component.  When I try to view designs in my various design folders I see only a page with the upper right hand corner turned down.  I'm running Windows 8 on my computer (if that makes any difference).  What do I need to do to see my designs again?

 

Chris

Re: Internet Explorer vulnerability

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Thanks Jim!  I use Chrome on my MAC but on my thinkpad that I bought for my 12000 I have been using IE.  I will cease and desist! VBG
Roberta


From: "jim.stutsman@..."
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:17:45 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Internet Explorer vulnerability

 
Over the weekend a new vulnerability has come to light in Microsoft Internet Explorer. This is the browser that comes with all versions of Windows and the vulnerability is in every version right up to the current 11. The danger is that if you visit a website designed, or infected, to exploit this vulnerability your computer can be compromised. Microsoft may be issuing an out-of-cycle patch for the problem instead of waiting for "Patch Tuesday", but you should not use IE for web browsing until they do. The problem does not exist in FireFox or Google Chrome or any other browsers. It does exist in all browsers on Windows XP, and will not be fixed for that OS. If you are still using XP do not use Internet Explorer for web browsing.

The problem with issues like this is that when they are announced the bad guys learn about them too. It becomes a race for Microsoft to fix it before the Internet is flooded with exploits that take advantage of it. Not a week goes by that I don't delete a post that consists of nothing but a web link. Those posts don't come from legitimate members, but from software that masquerades as members. People get infected by clicking on the link and then their computer starts sending out more bogus emails. If you get an email with only a link, don't click it. If it's from someone you know and has text encouraging you to click the link, verify with the sender first. Let's be careful out there!


Re: Internet Explorer vulnerability

Jan Driscoll
 

How lucky we all are to have you advising us about issues like this.  Thank you

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of jim.stutsman@...
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:18 AM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: [janome12000] Internet Explorer vulnerability

 

 

Over the weekend a new vulnerability has come to light in Microsoft Internet Explorer. This is the browser that comes with all versions of Windows and the vulnerability is in every version right up to the current 11. The danger is that if you visit a website designed, or infected, to exploit this vulnerability your computer can be compromised. Microsoft may be issuing an out-of-cycle patch for the problem instead of waiting for "Patch Tuesday", but you should not use IE for web browsing until they do. The problem does not exist in FireFox or Google Chrome or any other browsers. It does exist in all browsers on Windows XP, and will not be fixed for that OS. If you are still using XP do not use Internet Explorer for web browsing.

 

The problem with issues like this is that when they are announced the bad guys learn about them too. It becomes a race for Microsoft to fix it before the Internet is flooded with exploits that take advantage of it. Not a week goes by that I don't delete a post that consists of nothing but a web link. Those posts don't come from legitimate members, but from software that masquerades as members. People get infected by clicking on the link and then their computer starts sending out more bogus emails. If you get an email with only a link, don't click it. If it's from someone you know and has text encouraging you to click the link, verify with the sender first. Let's be careful out there!

Internet Explorer vulnerability

Jim Stutsman
 

Over the weekend a new vulnerability has come to light in Microsoft Internet Explorer. This is the browser that comes with all versions of Windows and the vulnerability is in every version right up to the current 11. The danger is that if you visit a website designed, or infected, to exploit this vulnerability your computer can be compromised. Microsoft may be issuing an out-of-cycle patch for the problem instead of waiting for "Patch Tuesday", but you should not use IE for web browsing until they do. The problem does not exist in FireFox or Google Chrome or any other browsers. It does exist in all browsers on Windows XP, and will not be fixed for that OS. If you are still using XP do not use Internet Explorer for web browsing.


The problem with issues like this is that when they are announced the bad guys learn about them too. It becomes a race for Microsoft to fix it before the Internet is flooded with exploits that take advantage of it. Not a week goes by that I don't delete a post that consists of nothing but a web link. Those posts don't come from legitimate members, but from software that masquerades as members. People get infected by clicking on the link and then their computer starts sending out more bogus emails. If you get an email with only a link, don't click it. If it's from someone you know and has text encouraging you to click the link, verify with the sender first. Let's be careful out there!

Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

Vikki Youngmeyer
 

Con for me owning a 15000 – my dealer did not attend the “unveiling” classes offered nor has taken the tech support class, so can’t sell it or service the machine, so any repairs/cleaning would mean a 200 mile round trip (in a high traffic area) to drop it off and another 200 mile trip to pick it up. Also there is the additional $2000 purchase price and that authorized dealer that does sell it wouldn’t take a trade-in on the 12000 I already own. What’s also interesting is if you look at the Janome list as to which dealers are authorized to sell the 15000, most in our area are listed. However, when contacted, few are actually authorized to sell/service the machines. My local dealer can and does sell/service the 12000.

 

There have been a number of posts regarding issues with the 15000 which have required intervention by dealers and they haven’t always been fixed the first time round. Not everything has to do with the difference between the machines, but the logistics of owning them need to be considered.

 

Considering the cost, if I were interested in the 15000, I would actually go check it out and not just rely on what others say about it. I tested out the 12000 before buying it. I got a discount on the initial price plus was able to trade in a Janome 6500 (on its last legs) and a 350e in excellent condition. I couldn’t begin to get a similar deal from the dealer selling the 15000. I’m happy with what I have, and am not a slave to needing the latest cutting edge IPad, IPhone, computer or sewing machine! I usually buy something new when what I have been using wears out or becomes so obsolete that one can no longer get parts or people to fix it.

 

Incidentally, my little backup Acer computer is still running Windows XP and hasn’t blown up or melted down yet! In fact it runs a couple of Access programs just fine with the 2003 version of Access whereas I’m having issues with the same programs on Windows 8 using the 2013 version of Access! Just because it’s new, doesn’t always mean it’s better! I only bought the new computer with Windows 8 because the hard drive of my 6 year old Sony computer with Windows 7 crashed.

 

As for the fact that the 15000 can be updated is immaterial as Janome will probably make an another TOL machine in the next 5 years that will render the 15000 obsolete, and will stop providing parts/support for the 12000. By that time, I may be in the market for a new sewing machine.

 

Vikki

Houston, TX

 

Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

Julie
 

You can go to the Janome site and compare machines.  You can compare 3 at a time.  I just did that when I wanted a lower end sewing only machine and then I could see all of the differences between different models.  There are definite differences between the 12k and the 15k. 

 

I have both the MC12000 and the MC15000.  I love having both of them.  My main emphasis is on the sewing end and not embroidery so much – and for the sewing on the 15000 there are differences that for me I like better.  There are probably not enough differences on the embroidery side that are that much different except for the wireless technology and faster processor.  The larger screen on the 15000 is worth it also.  I don’t know what Janome was thinking when they took up room on the screen of the MC12000 for that silly dial.  Who uses that when you have the other ways to get to stitches?

 

I don’t like the fact that neither machine has a 5x7 hoop that either comes with it or even available.  For that reason my main embroidery machine is the Quattro 6000D, however, I‘ve never even turned that machine on for regular sewing in the 6 years I’ve had it.  The MC12000 and the MC15000 beat all machines in the regular sewing aspect.  I’ve also got Viking, Pfaff, Babylock and Bernina.  Janome tops them all for regular sewing and is a very sturdy and hardworking machine.

 

Julie in TX

 

Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Linda M" lillith_19

Not enough differences between the two? You must be kidding!

Please specify the cons of owning a Janome 15000. I'm simply dying to find
out.

Linda M
Sent from my computer.

 

 

New computer

kmurphy1@bellsouth.net
 

I am thinking about purchasing new computer but would like anyone's feedback on which one works best with Janome15000, I presently have a Dell Inspirion laptop but it is over 10 years old. Would love an Apple but want something that works well with Horizon Link.

Sent from my iPhone


From an orchard of Apples, Jim replies:
We are all-Mac here in the Neighborhood of Make Believe. You need to install Windows for 15000 support. Dell is not the quality product it once was, and I no longer recommend them. Asus and Acer, which were formerly cheap and inferior, have gotten quite good. If you are not using Digitizer you can get by with a generic Windows computer. Otherwise get as much RAM and video power as you can.

Re: Longarm machine

Marsha
 

Sherry,
 
I’m thinking of a longarm machine, too!  I’ve been considering the Juki TL-2200QVP.  I don’t really know alot about the different brands.  Can you tell me why you’re considering Tin Lizzie over others?
 
thanks,
 
Marsha
 

Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

Lou Ann
 

Money WAS a factor in my decision which is why I went with the 12000 knowing that a new TOL was coming out soon and the dealer was offering specials on the 12's to get rid of them.  That being said, I'm kind of glad I stayed with the 12 because of all the comments I've seen in here with needle threader problems.  However, when I got to see the 15 in action at one of the combined 12/15 classes, I was envious of the large screen and how quiet it was compared to my machine.  I didn't think I would ever want to embroider a design even approaching 200,000 stitches but with the large hoops Janome provides, I've since seen many designs out there that are over 100,000 stitches.  Oh well.   I've still got a year to pay off the loan so won't be trading anytime soon and at the prices for TOL machines I hope mine lasts a long, long time:)  

Border Designs Video??

audrey <Contessa@...>
 

Could Jim or anyone reading this please tell me what video I need to buy to learn about lining up border designs etc? Thanks so much.


Checking in from the Shameless Commerce Division, Jim says:
We have a set of DVDs (also sold separately) that cover all aspects of the 12000. You can find those here.  Similar videos for the 15000 are currently in development. If you are only looking for tips on using the Border Guide foot, those are in our FootBook app.

Re: Changing mm's to inches

Ruth Callachor
 

Good Afternoon,

If you have the Horizon Link Suite you can from mm to inches but not sure for the Horizon Link. If you click on the round circle after you have opened the Accufil tool there is the unit and you can change it there.

Ruth

Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000

Linda M
 

Not enough differences between the two?  You must be kidding!
 
Please specify the cons of owning a Janome 15000.  I'm simply dying to find out.
 
Linda M
Sent from my computer. 
 
 
 
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 27/04/2014 9:15:34 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Choosing between Janome 12000 & 15000
 
 

I have a 12000 and am very happy with it. I had an opportunity to trade for the 15000 with more $ but I didn't see enough of a difference in the two for the extra money. The 12000 is definitely a top of the line machine and it is by far the best machine I have ever owned. I think there are pros and cons with both. I think you should buy the one that best suits Your needs.

Lyn