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Re: servicing my 15000

MarieD
 

No one suggested suing anyone. To me, a safety sensor would be in the same
category as seat belts, a safety feature. Probably would make a TOL machine
price soar even higher, though.


Now that I'm getting old, I could use all the help I can get. I seem to do
some things I'd never have done earlier in my life now that my cognition
is weakening. I would never call them Stupid, just a fact of life.


MarieD

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Vikki Youngmeyer' vikkiy@windstream.net [janome12000]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 12:23 AM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [janome12000] Re: servicing my 15000


should I sue the tennis shoe company?


In response to:
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I wonder if sewing machines could be equipped with a safety sensor for a
half or quarter inch diameter circle under the needle. It seems like
industrial machines must have such a device. Maybe that should go on our
"ask for" list from Janome! My paper shredder stops if my fingers get
anywhere near the opening. It seems the same technology can be put on our
machines.
Ceil


Re: servicing my 15000

ceilsews <no_reply@...>
 

Vikki,
I'm sorry if my suggestion upset you.  I read my post over again and I don't mention suing anyone, just suggesting that the machines could be made safer as has been done with shredders.  Yes, we are all responsible for our own actions but technology can make us safer (if not smarter)!
Ceil


---In janome12000@..., <vikkiy@...> wrote :

Really??!! What about just being responsible and teaching our children to be responsible? If something goes wrong and we do something stupid like not paying attention to what we are doing, it’s someone else’s fault because there wasn’t a warning. I can trip over a shoelace and break a leg – should I sue the tennis shoe company?

 

Vikki

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of ceilsews
Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 7:24 PM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: [janome12000] Re: servicing my 15000

 

 

I wonder if sewing machines could be equipped with a safety sensor for a half or quarter inch diameter circle under the needle.  It seems like industrial machines must have such a device.  Maybe that should go on our "ask for" list from Janome!  My paper shredder stops if my fingers get anywhere near the opening.  It seems the same technology can be put on our machines.
Ceil


needle threader - again

Lucy Akers
 

My new 15000 was threading needles just fine and I was so happy after reading here of people having problems. But, when I put in a topstitch needle, it didn't find the eye. I know it is because of the needle and not the machine.

However, is there any way to manually use the needle threader? On the 12000, you can push the needle over a bit with your finger to get the eye in the threader.


Eyeing the situation, Jim says:

A topstitch needle has a larger eye than others, so sure that it's all the way up in the clamp. If it missed the eye, the hook may have hit the shaft of the needle and gotten bent. There really isn't a way to use the threader manually.


Re: servicing my 15000

Anne Parker
 

I can empathise.

I've done this twice now with the 15000 when trying to get really close to some piping, as I was having to hold the piping back in place. Luckily for me I just went down the side of my nail - and there was no blood on the white fabric I was sewing!

It's the first time I've ever sewn through my finger on any machine and I've been sewing for over 50 years - typical that it's the most powerful machine I have used!

Anne
www.sewingtales.wordpress.com

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"If we could live happy and healthy lives without harming others... why wouldn't we?" Edgar's Mission | www.edgarsmission.org.au


Re: servicing my 15000

Vikki Youngmeyer
 

Really??!! What about just being responsible and teaching our children to be responsible? If something goes wrong and we do something stupid like not paying attention to what we are doing, it’s someone else’s fault because there wasn’t a warning. I can trip over a shoelace and break a leg – should I sue the tennis shoe company?

 

Vikki

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of ceilsews
Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 7:24 PM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: [janome12000] Re: servicing my 15000

 

 

I wonder if sewing machines could be equipped with a safety sensor for a half or quarter inch diameter circle under the needle.  It seems like industrial machines must have such a device.  Maybe that should go on our "ask for" list from Janome!  My paper shredder stops if my fingers get anywhere near the opening.  It seems the same technology can be put on our machines.
Ceil


Re: servicing my 15000

Carolyn Gazerro <cmgazerro@...>
 

Thanks everyone for your concerns. Finger is looking good with hardly any sign of injury. I am truly blest not to have more damage. Luckily this was the first time in my 75 years.


Carolyn 🌹
Sent from my iPad


Re: servicing my 15000

Carolyn Gazerro <cmgazerro@...>
 

I understand they have machines with safety guards for school sewing classes.


Carolyn 🌹
Sent from my iPad


Re: servicing my 15000

My-Stitches
 

Ouch! I hope your finger heals quickly. I sewed through a finger
when I was about 12 and I still remember it, vividly!


Mary




Brought my 15000 in for servicing Tuesday. Was due for two year check
up but had to take it in for a sewing issue. Now I bought the machine
because it was a strong working machine suitable for home deco. They
did not tell me it would not sew through fingers. Yep that is what it
attempted to do. Finger got caught as I was clearing a piece of felt
while embroidering a design. Took me about 15 minutes to
clear my finger from needle and embroidery foot.


Thankful I was not more seriously injured


Carolyn


Re: servicing my 15000

Cat - N
 

Oh my goodness!  Wow!  I am happy those who had the displeasure of this experience came out of it okay,and I sure hope you heal quickly.  Owie!!!  I put that right at the top of my list of 'Things NOT To Do' !!!

- Cat (FL)


Re: servicing my 15000

Carolyn <cmgazerro@...>
 

Ouch. I am fortunate the needle pierced the tip my finger which only required me cleaning the wound. Looks like the timing is out of whack to complete the stitches. The machine takes two stitches and then next stitch swerves to the right but does not complete the stitches Bobbin is in tact with no punctures.


Will be interesting to find out final diagnoses.
Carolyn


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Re: servicing my 15000

cas <cas@...>
 

Scary!  I wish I could lower my pressure foot a little bit when using the pivot function.  I have it set as low as it goes but it seems too high.
 

Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 4:34 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: servicing my 15000
 
 

Glad you were able to salvage the finger. For reference, the MB-4 is fully capable of sewing completely through a finger, nail and all. Unfortunately the needle will likely break inside the finger, leading to about an hour of minor surgery at the Doc-in-the-Box to get it out. Thanks to the doctor's skill, the finger is fully functional and has no nerve damage. The MB-4 also survived without damage, although a little adjustment was needed in the presser foot height. I do not recommend trying this, ever, by anyone.


Re: servicing my 15000

cas <cas@...>
 

Hope it heals fast Carolyn!  I bet that scared the heck outta you!  I tried to sew mine twice, broke my acrylic nails but they stopped the needle. 
Cas


Re: servicing my 15000

sandy k
 

Yes very dangerous. I did it too. Turned machine off then back on, pressed whatever it said to do and the needle came right up out of going completely thru nail and all. No doc and did not hurt after! Crazy! 

SandyK Magnolia Springs Quilts
From my iPhone 

On Apr 8, 2016, at 6:34 PM, jim.stutsman@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:

 

Glad you were able to salvage the finger. For reference, the MB-4 is fully capable of sewing completely through a finger, nail and all. Unfortunately the needle will likely break inside the finger, leading to about an hour of minor surgery at the Doc-in-the-Box to get it out. Thanks to the doctor's skill, the finger is fully functional and has no nerve damage. The MB-4 also survived without damage, although a little adjustment was needed in the presser foot height. I do not recommend trying this, ever, by anyone.


Re: servicing my 15000

ceilsews <no_reply@...>
 

I wonder if sewing machines could be equipped with a safety sensor for a half or quarter inch diameter circle under the needle.  It seems like industrial machines must have such a device.  Maybe that should go on our "ask for" list from Janome!  My paper shredder stops if my fingers get anywhere near the opening.  It seems the same technology can be put on our machines.
Ceil


Re: servicing my 15000

Jim Stutsman
 

Glad you were able to salvage the finger. For reference, the MB-4 is fully capable of sewing completely through a finger, nail and all. Unfortunately the needle will likely break inside the finger, leading to about an hour of minor surgery at the Doc-in-the-Box to get it out. Thanks to the doctor's skill, the finger is fully functional and has no nerve damage. The MB-4 also survived without damage, although a little adjustment was needed in the presser foot height. I do not recommend trying this, ever, by anyone.


Re: birds nest on bottom [1 Attachment]

norma carson
 

Thank you, Jim ...,it was an upper tension issue don't usually have to worry about that so I didn't think of it...😣 u r the best!

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2016, at 11:19 AM, norma7750@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:

 

Hi Jim


Having birds nest on the bottom of my project when stitching over multiple layers, I'm using a denim needle and even changed to the yellow bobbin case and still having the same thing happen. Are you able to see the attachment? Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?


Norma

Lodi, CA


Noting that it's spring, which is normally when birds are nesting, Jim says:

It's really hard to see anything from the picture, but if it's a dense design you may need a smaller needle. Changing to the yellow dot case won't really make much difference, because it increases the bottom tension. Your problem is either insufficient top tension, or more likely too big of a needle hole. If the design stitches fine over a single layer, then you may just need to slow down the machine at the trouble spots on multiple layers. Also make sure your fabric is taut within the hoop and well stabilized.


Re: servicing my 15000

MarieD
 

Ouch! I wish you quick healing.


MarieD

-----Original Message-----
From: cmgazerro@cox.net [janome12000]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 3:26 PM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] servicing my 15000
Took me about 15 minutes to
clear my finger from needle and embroidery foot.


Service Manual...

ceilsews <no_reply@...>
 

Someone from the UK posted this link to the 15000 service manual on Facebook.  In case anyone is interested here it is. http://www.manualslib.com/download/923569/Janome-Mc15000.html

I was not able to prod my machine to download it as 3 attempts failed, so I opened it then saved it and scanned it for viruses too.  (It was clean.) It may help those who are mechanically inclined.  It also has a section about the needle threader.

Ceil

 


servicing my 15000

JoAnn Novak
 

 OUCH!!!
 So sorry to hear of your mishap.
 JoAnn
Life's biggest decision is what you do with Jesus.

 

Brought my 15000 in for servicing Tuesday. Was due for two year check up but had to take it in for a sewing issue. Now I bought the machine because it was a strong working machine suitable for home deco. They did not tell me it would not sew through fingers. Yep that is what it attempted to do. Finger got caught as I was clearing a piece of felt while embroidering a design. Took me about 15 minutes to
clear my finger from needle and embroidery foot.

Thankful I was not more seriously injured

Carolyn



Re: servicing my 15000

ceilsews <no_reply@...>
 

Carolyn,
Yikes!  There are always so many postings about people sewing through fingers, cutting off parts of fingers, etc.  We always think we're being careful and that it won't happen to us!  Very sorry to hear of your pain and hope you heal soon.  Hopefully, you didn't permanently damage either the machine or your finger!
Ceil

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