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Re: What do you do with left over Romeo stabiliser

Marsha
 

I don't use Romeo but the fabric-type water-solubles.  I toss all my scraps into a bin & use them whenever I want to serge a rolled hem, apply decorative machine stitching, gather or ruffle tulle or chiffon, or stitch on vinyl.  Makes anything that is difficult to sew because presser feet can't grip it easier. 
 
HTH,
 
Marsha


Re: Thread nest

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

That's the one!

--- In janome12000@..., "Anne" <csarina43@...> wrote:

Is this what you were talking about Jim







































Is this what you were talking about Jim?

Mettler Fine Embroidery Cotton 60/2 800m


Re: Thread nest

Anne <csarina43@...>
 

Is this what you were talking about Jim







































Is this what you were talking about Jim?

Mettler Fine Embroidery Cotton 60/2 800m


Re: Thread nest

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Aha! With more information we can offer more help. There are a couple of points to make here. First, Madeira thread is 40wt, perhaps as much as twice as thick as the fine cotton. Throw in a red tip (size 14) needle and you have bigger holes. If there are stitches shorter than 1.4mm (not impossible in FSL) you wind up with two stitches in a single needle hole. All that loose thread can lead to trouble. Even without short stitches, the extra thick thread in an area of dense stitching is a recipe for disaster. Finally, Romeo is hard on needles. Did you change needles after doing the 3 with fine cotton? Dull needles lead to trouble too.

Back in our FSL days we used Mettler 60wt fine embroidery cotton thread to great success. We also really liked the Janome 60wt and 90wt serger (overlocker) thread. It was extra fine and made beautiful lace. We also used only blue tip (size 11) needles.

I should add that we had an MB-4 customer doing regular embroidery (not FSL) with exactly the same problem you've had. In her case it was doing an extra dense design with size 14 needles. We switched her to 80wt thread and a size 90 needle and all the problems were cured. In addition the embroidery was exquisite and she quickly began adding customers. The lesson we learned is that needle and thread sizes are critically important, more so in the case of dense designs!

--- In janome12000@..., "Anne" <csarina43@...> wrote:

Donna, I actually had the machine running at 400spm and it still made a mess. I have put a photo in Anne A's Album of the 4 I have managed to do 3 were done in fine cotton and one in maderia, it was while I was using the maderia the machine started acting up, thread breaking and nesting. I changed back to the fine cotton and it carried on, so I am at loss to know what to do, I have a feeling the machine is going back to the shop if I cannot sort it out.


Re: Thread nest

Anne <csarina43@...>
 

Donna, I actually had the machine running at 400spm and it still made a mess. I have put a photo in Anne A's Album of the 4 I have managed to do 3 were done in fine cotton and one in maderia, it was while I was using the maderia the machine started acting up, thread breaking and nesting. I changed back to the fine cotton and it carried on, so I am at loss to know what to do, I have a feeling the machine is going back to the shop if I cannot sort it out.


Re: OT: MBX

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

By all means update your MBX! The multi-language function was only a minor part of the update. There are many bug fixes included, although they are not listed. This is typical of Janome, and it's why you should always install Digitizer updates as they are released. This particular update has only been online about 4 days. We try to monitor them and announce them on our various sites (like this one) as they go up.

--- In janome12000@..., "granny_412001" <granny_412001@...> wrote:

I am a new member of this group and joined trying lto make up my mind if I want to invest in the 12000. I currently have the 11000 that has been upgraded to the SE and am very happy with it. In the meantime, I received the MBX upgrade for the digitizer for Christmas. My question is in regard to the upgrade I found on the Janome Global website for for the MBX. Is it somthing I should do? Other than adding languages I would not use I can't be sure what it would "fix" on the software I just received.
I know this is off-topic, but cannot find a group for the Digitizer MBX like there was for the Digitizer-Pro. Another thing that would be helpful is if Janome would indicate the dates when new upgrades are posted on their sites.
I am very impressed with Trevor Congergood's tutorial that came with the MBX, and my husband, who is an engineer, is very impressed with the program.
I would appreciate any help any one can give me regarding the update.
Judy in NC


Re: What do you do with left over Romeo stabiliser

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Save all the leftover bits. Put them in a jar (recycled food containers are good for this) and add water a little at a time until you have a thick, goopy liquid. Keep it in the fridge when not in use. Brush it on items to be embroidered and let it dry before putting them in the hoop. They will become very stiff, to the point of nearly being self-stabilized. Once embroidery is complete, soak the item to remove all the goop. Obviously not good for items that cannot get wet, but very effective on things like T-shirts.

If you have pieces that are *almost* big enough to hoop, try spritzing the edges LIGHTLY with water, join at the moist edges and press with a warm iron. Now you can hoop it!

--- In janome12000@..., "Anne" <csarina43@...> wrote:

What do you do with any water soluble film you have left over after you have sewn a design???? I am having problems with sewing out a design and have several quite large bits of romeo which are not big enough to go in a 12000 hoop.....its expensive so loathe to throw it away.


Re: OT: MBX

Donna Morton
 

Hi Judy
 
Yes, you should download and install the update.  The key statement “resolves minor issues” means more than it sounds like!  Remember to also download the updated manual at the bottom of the page.
 
I have had my 12000 since early October.  Love it more every time I use it.  I thought the 11000 was the best but the 12000 goes way beyond my expectations.  The sensor foot and pivot function in sewing is a dream.  I sew samples and teach at a dealer store and I can probably count on 1 hand the number of times the thread has broken.  Embroidery stitch out is very smooth and extremely fast.  I am currently teach a class that includes other top of the line brands and 12000 owners.  The 12000 owners are finished and out the door on their way home at least an hour ahead of the other brands in a 6 hour class and it is because the 12000 just keeps going without thread breaks or issues.
 
Donna M
Canada
 

Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:48 AM
Subject: [janome12000] OT: MBX
 
 

I am a new member of this group and joined trying lto make up my mind if I want to invest in the 12000. I currently have the 11000 that has been upgraded to the SE and am very happy with it. In the meantime, I received the MBX upgrade for the digitizer for Christmas. My question is in regard to the upgrade I found on the Janome Global website for for the MBX. Is it somthing I should do? Other than adding languages I would not use I can't be sure what it would "fix" on the software I just received.
I know this is off-topic, but cannot find a group for the Digitizer MBX like there was for the Digitizer-Pro. Another thing that would be helpful is if Janome would indicate the dates when new upgrades are posted on their sites.
I am very impressed with Trevor Congergood's tutorial that came with the MBX, and my husband, who is an engineer, is very impressed with the program.
I would appreciate any help any one can give me regarding the update.
Judy in NC


Re: Thread nest

Donna Morton
 

I see the instruction book does mention raising the foot height to 2 mm but it also mentions to slow the machine to 600 spm.  I suspect though that as Jim has mentioned, the Romeo did stretch during stitching.  When this happens the registration of the design migrates and the needle hits a dense spot in the lace design and doesn’t penetrate the dense area properly.  This causes the thread nest.  I would switch to a fabric like water soluble and see if the problem continues.  Line the inner hoop with something like light weight shelf matting so the fabric like water soluble stabilizer doesn’t slip in the hoop during stitching.
 
Donna M
Canada
 

Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:28 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Thread nest
 
 

Anne, Diane has mentioned something that I missed, namely raising the presser foot to 2mm. I'm not sure what directions told you to do this, but that could well be a problem. Water soluble Romeo has a tendency to stretch a bit while you are sewing. Raising the foot will allow it to flutter, which can create all sorts of sewing problems. That may well be why you had thread breaks. Try it again without raising the foot. The default setting should be fine.

--- In mailto:janome12000%40yahoogroups.com, "Anne" wrote:
>
> Jim,
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> I have been having trouble since yesterday sewing free standing lace on Romeo. The first two angels I did stitched out perfectly although I did get a few thread breaks. When I started on the third I started getting problems with nesting and this morning its horrendous.
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What do you do with left over Romeo stabiliser

Anne <csarina43@...>
 

What do you do with any water soluble film you have left over after you have sewn a design???? I am having problems with sewing out a design and have several quite large bits of romeo which are not big enough to go in a 12000 hoop.....its expensive so loathe to throw it away.


Re: Thread nest

Anne <csarina43@...>
 

Hi Jim,

the thread was in the take up lever and I am pretty sure it had gone through the thension, it had been sewing normally when it suddenly started to sew on itself, I stopped the machine quickly but was too late to stop it, I had to cut the whole thing away to get it out.

The instructions to raise the foot to 2mm are in the instruction book for sewing free standing lace can I lower it more than the default? The machine sewed fine the first two angels, it started playing silly b's yesterday when I was using maderia 40 rayon thread, I decided to try using the fine cotton again this morning and it was fine for a while, then bang off it went again.

The design is very dense, I wondered if enlarging it a bit would help, but am loath to try it as I am wasting romeo at a good rate of knots and its not cheap. I did wonder if the Maderia thread might be dry and benefit from ovenight in the fridge?

One thing that really annoys me is the machine telling you there is not enough thread on the bobbin to continue even when the control is set to 0 what can you do with all the bits of thread left on the bobbins. There is only so much hand sewing you can do, eventually you will end up with all your bobbins filled with the remains of full bobbins.

I am not sure where the designs came from but I do know a friend has the same set and hers sewed out fine although she was using marathon thread.


OT: MBX

granny_412001
 

I am a new member of this group and joined trying lto make up my mind if I want to invest in the 12000. I currently have the 11000 that has been upgraded to the SE and am very happy with it. In the meantime, I received the MBX upgrade for the digitizer for Christmas. My question is in regard to the upgrade I found on the Janome Global website for for the MBX. Is it somthing I should do? Other than adding languages I would not use I can't be sure what it would "fix" on the software I just received.
I know this is off-topic, but cannot find a group for the Digitizer MBX like there was for the Digitizer-Pro. Another thing that would be helpful is if Janome would indicate the dates when new upgrades are posted on their sites.
I am very impressed with Trevor Congergood's tutorial that came with the MBX, and my husband, who is an engineer, is very impressed with the program.
I would appreciate any help any one can give me regarding the update.
Judy in NC


Re: New happy owner of the MC 12000

Cheryl Paul
 

Happy New Year, everyone.

Kathy, I now don't feel so foolish. I also forgot to change the needle plate and couldn't understand WHY I didn't have all my stitches, all my icons, etc. I went so far as to take off the embroidery unit, turn the machine off and on again a few times. I was writing a HELP request to the forum when a friend said, "Do you have the right plate on your machine". Oh, then the bells whistled, and the lights all went on and I was back in business, then hemmed my pants to have them for Christmas.

I agree that a 5" X 7" hoop would be nice for our 12000. I do see a lot of stabilizer used for the few embroideries that I've done. I do like that 23 X 23 cm hoop (9X9") - it sure does a nice big design. I used the big one to make 4 little Christmas stockings at a time for my 10 grandchildren as "in the hoop" project.

Cheryl - Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada

--- In janome12000@..., "zefrenchfairy" <cathydefrance@...> wrote:

Hi
I thank you very much,Jim, for the warm welcome and so kinds words.

Yes, I also think the 5x7 (or 6x9), is a very useful hoop. I have (and created for my customers) tons of designs for 5x7 hoop. Of course , we can embroid them into the SQ 23x23 (9x9")but we need tu use and lost more fabric or stabiliser. So I should be happy to join my voice to all voices who will claim for a 5x7 hoop.

I am very satisfied of the results I obtain with the MC 12000, so I am preparing a project for a large embroidered quilt.

I did the 1.01 update (no problem. The Pdf is very clear)
The only problem I met, is when I decided to stitch and test some machine stitches. Only the straight stitches icons are clickables ... and finaly I thought the reason was that I did not change the needle plate yet. I changed it for the zigzag-plate and miraculously, the icons became clickable ... !
I like also this machine because all , absolutely all the functions are configurable as much as we need.
Yesterday, I phoned to my dealer to tell her, I am so happy I would like half-a-dosen of 12000. She smiled and said "no problem!" . I hope she did not take me at my words.

Many thanks again

Cathy
from Cathy de France - Embroidery designs
http://cathydefrance.com


Re: Thread nest

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Anne, Diane has mentioned something that I missed, namely raising the presser foot to 2mm. I'm not sure what directions told you to do this, but that could well be a problem. Water soluble Romeo has a tendency to stretch a bit while you are sewing. Raising the foot will allow it to flutter, which can create all sorts of sewing problems. That may well be why you had thread breaks. Try it again without raising the foot. The default setting should be fine.

--- In janome12000@..., "Anne" <csarina43@...> wrote:

Jim,

I have been having trouble since yesterday sewing free standing lace on Romeo. The first two angels I did stitched out perfectly although I did get a few thread breaks. When I started on the third I started getting problems with nesting and this morning its horrendous.


Re: Thread nest

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Anne it looks as though the thread may not have been in the take-up lever. At 1,000 stitches per minute this can create a huge nest in seconds. With the take-up lever being hidden in this machine, it's helpful to open the door while threading to make sure the thread clicks into the eye of the lever, rather than just looping over the top which will inevitably come off.

If you are certain that it was in the take-up lever, the thread might not have made it into the tension properly. I'm sure you had the presser foot raised when you threaded it, but perhaps the tension release did not open fully. If this continues to be a problem you should have your dealer check it.

--- In janome12000@..., "Anne" <csarina43@...> wrote:

Jim,

I have been having trouble since yesterday sewing free standing lace on Romeo. The first two angels I did stitched out perfectly although I did get a few thread breaks. When I started on the third I started getting problems with nesting and this morning its horrendous.

I have put a photo in Anne A;s Album of what I found when I managed to extract the hoop from the machine and chooped away to free it from the bobbin race. I am using fine cotton thread top and bottom, a red needle, straight stitch plate and have lifted the presser foot to 2mm as instructed in the instructions. I have examined the bobbin case carefully with the magnifying glass and casnnot see any burrs on the case. I am about at my wits end, have onlt had the machine as week. It is reminding me more and more of the problems they had with the bobbin bases on the 11000!! although mine was ok.


Thread nest

Anne <csarina43@...>
 

Jim,

I have been having trouble since yesterday sewing free standing lace on Romeo. The first two angels I did stitched out perfectly although I did get a few thread breaks. When I started on the third I started getting problems with nesting and this morning its horrendous.

I have put a photo in Anne A;s Album of what I found when I managed to extract the hoop from the machine and chooped away to free it from the bobbin race. I am using fine cotton thread top and bottom, a red needle, straight stitch plate and have lifted the presser foot to 2mm as instructed in the instructions. I have examined the bobbin case carefully with the magnifying glass and casnnot see any burrs on the case. I am about at my wits end, have onlt had the machine as week. It is reminding me more and more of the problems they had with the bobbin bases on the 11000!! although mine was ok.


Re: Old hoop size designs to 120000

loreleigustafson@att.net <lore@...>
 

Thank you, Sherry & Jim. Grabbed the hoop by the tabs and went for it. You were both absolutely right (never doubted you).

Lore


Re: Old hoop size designs to 120000

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

You can use all of your 350E designs. As Sherry has noted, the machine will choose a hoop that is suitable for each design. Just watch the screen to make sure that the appropriate hoop is used when you select a design for stitching.

--- In janome12000@..., "loreleigustafson@..." <lore@...> wrote:

Just starting up with my 12000. I apologize if someone has posted and others have answered this question; however, I can't seem to find the right phrases/words for the search engine to find out!

I have dozens and dozens of designs which were configured using the hoop sizes for my 350e. Are there any special mods I should make to those designs to use them with my (Christmas present) 12000? If so, what are the steps? I use Embird (if that information makes a difference here). And, I am SO glad to find this group!


Re: Old hoop size designs to 120000

Sherry Martin
 

I have found that a lot of designs just automatically pick one of the 12000 hoops. I had a lot of designs I used to use in the old RE (5x7) hoop but the designs were really OK for the 5 1/2 x 5 1/2 hoop. The machine seems to automatically assign them to that hoop.

It seems like the problems may come with designs that had to be hooped several times and now can be hooped just once with the new big hoops. There have been quite a few posts on here on how to get those working correctly, but I haven't tried yet.

My suggestion would be to just load your design and then look at the hoop the machine has selected and see if it is correct. If not, then review all the old posts on here.

I've learned a lot about a lot of different things from reading the old posts.

--- In janome12000@..., "loreleigustafson@..." <lore@...> wrote:

Just starting up with my 12000. I apologize if someone has posted and others have answered this question; however, I can't seem to find the right phrases/words for the search engine to find out!

I have dozens and dozens of designs which were configured using the hoop sizes for my 350e. Are there any special mods I should make to those designs to use them with my (Christmas present) 12000? If so, what are the steps? I use Embird (if that information makes a difference here). And, I am SO glad to find this group!


Old hoop size designs to 120000

loreleigustafson@att.net <lore@...>
 

Just starting up with my 12000. I apologize if someone has posted and others have answered this question; however, I can't seem to find the right phrases/words for the search engine to find out!

I have dozens and dozens of designs which were configured using the hoop sizes for my 350e. Are there any special mods I should make to those designs to use them with my (Christmas present) 12000? If so, what are the steps? I use Embird (if that information makes a difference here). And, I am SO glad to find this group!