Thread slipping out of uptake lever?
pble2000@...
My 15000 has been perking along pretty happily but I have noticed that the upper thread will jump out of the uptake lever while I am sewing ... and then, of course, it won't sew because of thread snarls. I am trying to be careful while threading; is there anything else to try? What is weird is that I will have been sewing just fine and it will do this on its own. It hasn't done this during embroidery, at least not yet. TIA for advice. Patti, waiting for rain in Oregon Slipping out of his easy chair, Jim says: Start opening the door when threading to make certain that the thread is completely in the take-up lever. You'll notice that there is a little clip to keep it from coming out. If that clip is not closing completely then see your dealer about replacing or adjusting it. If you find that it still comes out with the clip operating correctly, then the thread is probably looping over the top of the lever and snapping in a second time, which will immediately pull out through the eye. A misadjusted check spring could cause that, which is also a dealer adjustment. I had this problem in the past with a 6600 customer. In her case I fixed it by adjusting the take-up lever, but prior to doing that she had gotten a tip from one of the lists that helped. That tip was to take the thread around the left side of the lever while threading, rather than the right. |
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15000 Bobbin Jumping and Tension Issues
cas@...
I’ve been experimenting, trying to get the tension right on my machine
while I’m doing FMQ pebbles. I’ve tried using bobbin thread in the regular
bobbin and the yellow bobbin. I’ve tried using the same thread as I was
sewing with, Maxi-Lock in both bobbins. I traded the Maxi-lock because it
kept breaking and now have a cone of I don’t know what brand that seems to be
sewing better. I have four spools of Gutterman in the color I need but
can’t find them. Grrrrr!
I’ve tried adjusting the tension, judging by the book pictures and my
bobbin thread showing up on top I needed to + the auto tension?
In any case, I’ve found my bobbin starts jumping like it’s empty when it
still has quite a bit of thread left on it, approximately 1/8” thick of
thread. It will then skip a bunch of stitches. I’ve changed
the needle several times too mostly because I thought it might help the thread
quit breaking.
I’m quilting quilt sandwiches of my BOtM, decorating the pieced design with
straight lines, embroidery thread on top and bobbin thread in the bottom, and
experimenting with different threads to use for the pebbles surrounding the
designs.
I’m glad this is going to be a wall hanging because the back of it is a
mess never to be seen! Thread knots everywhere, top thread on the bottom
and vice-versa in which case I seam rip it out and try again...
I did some of this on my v1 before I traded it in, and some on my 11000 and
in every case it seems I made a mess.
I was hoping the auto tension settings on this new machine might help solve
some of these issues. Any ideas?
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Re: 15000 V2 vs V1-Broken Needle threader
Betty Scott
I got my 15000 back from Janome on Tuesday and when I used it the threader was working fine. But after only a very few uses it stopped working again. I have found that I have to raise the needle manually just a tiny amount every time and then it threads with no problem. This would indicate to me that it is not aligned properly. I am not very keen to have it sent away again. I think I will use it and monitor how it goes for a bit but I am a bit annoyed that such a highly priced machine can cause problems in what I would consider a simple part.
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Re: 15000 V2 vs V1-Broken Needle threader
cas@...
The needle threader on my v1 broke twice, or was never fixed the first
time. They tried to make me feel like I did something wrong too, told me
to “quit breaking it”. The threader on my v2 works great.
Cas
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Subject: [janome12000] Re: 15000 V2 vs V1-Broken Needle
threader My needle threader broke a needle too! Happened in December but I haven't had a chance to take my machine in to my dealer. The needle was stuck up in the threader or whatever that area is! Anyway, I had to remove the needle. I tried to do it very slowly and cautiously. But unfortunately now my threader misses the needle hole. :( My dealer said this time he would cover it under the warranty. I had
a problem with the threader earlier and he indicated I had done something wrong.
He is a very nice older gentleman and had done some other repairs for free for
me so I didn't dispute it since it was not an expensive repair.
But this is now the second time I have had to haul my machine in to have
the threader fixed.
I think I liked the simpler threader on the 12000! You would think
for the price we paid for these top of the line machines they could have a
better threader!
Other than that, I love my 15000!
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Re: 15000 V2 vs V1-Broken Needle threader
Judy Jackson <judy.j282@...>
Mine won't work with Janome embroidery threads.......which is surprising! Sent from my iPad On 15 Jan 2015, at 08:09, rmbt_3@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
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Re: Looping top thread on narrow satin stitches and back stitch [1 Attachment]
Virginia
Always slip a piece of light weight tearaway stabilizer under your project when you do satin stitches. It helps keep them flat. -----Original Message----- From: laucke2011@... [janome12000] To: janome12000 Sent: Wed, Jan 14, 2015 11:52 pm Subject: [janome12000] Looping top thread on narrow satin stitches and back stitch [1 Attachment] Can any tell me how to stop my Janome 12000 looping on top side of fabric when doing narrow satin stitch and back stitch, but only some times, I have slowed machine down, lowered the pressure foot, laid thread down, put on stand at back, used yellow bobbin case, red bobbin case 80/12, 75/11 needles, and using fusible tearaway, float a tearaway and solvy on top, when using back stand have put painters tape over edge of machine lid inside of rough plastic edge and none of the above have worked, you just don't know when it is going to start looping. Picture of looping attached. Naomi
Not yet loopy, Jim says:
From the picture it looks like the narrow satin stitches are going over some dense weave stitching. That can cause the thread to be held ti
ght against the needle so that a stitch is skipped. You might try using a purple tip needle. Another option would be to use a finer thread for the satin stitch, such as a 60wt.
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Nesting underneath embroidery on 12000
Contessa@...
This is driving me bonkers. I wonder if anyone can advise me please. I have the 12000 and when I am embroidering, I keep getting a little "metallic" noise, just before the machine stops with the "upper thread broken" message. When this happens, there is also nesting under the hoop. The machine was serviced two months ago. I have changed the needle, cleaned the bobbin area thoroughly, re threaded and re threaded loads of times, but it's still happening. I'd hate to have to send my machine back for repair - 500 miles - especially after just having it serviced. Am I doing something really stupid or could there be a fault? I'd so welcome any ideas please, before I tear my hair out. With a long history of being bonkers, Jim says: My best guess, from thousands of miles away, is that there is a burr either on the bobbin case or the hook race. This type of problem manifests itself with the symptoms you've described. Remove the needle plate and bobbin case. Examine the bobbin case, especially on the bottom. It should be very smooth with no rough places. Look at the rim on the bottom for little bumps or holes. If hit by a needle it will leave these. On the bottom if you see a thin gray or white line it may indicate a burr on the hook race itself. These tend to file away at the bottom of the case, leaving a trail of fine dust. You may not notice any stitching problem except when the hoop is traveling in a certain direction, causing just the right pull to snag the thread on a burr. Use a lot of light and a magnifying glass to examine the edges of the hook race that the bobbin case sits on. If it has ever been hit by a needle there may be a small nick, which will snag thread. Once a single stitch gets caught you will quickly get a thread nest, as further stitches catch on the caught one. If you find one or more burrs they can be polished out with a suitable polishing stone, but it takes patience and the right shape and size of stone. If you don't find anything in your inspection, try changing bobbin cases before sending it off. If that clears up the problem you can just order a new case. If you do wind up sending it off, and the problem is in the hook race, you may not get the resolution you want. Most dealers look at thread nesting and reflexively think that the needle tension is the problem. Insufficient top tension will cause loops, so it's not an unreasonable position. However if the problem is a burred hook, which is MUCH more common, they will fiddle with the tension without correcting the problem and you could wind up with two problems. Janome's rotary hook system, with the bobbin case held by a magnet, is a marvel of engineering. It is also somewhat of an Achilles heel. Since there is a magnet at the bottom of the hook race, the part cannot be made of steel. Instead it is aluminum, which is a soft metal. One needle strike can create enough damage to cause stitching problems. In my years of servicing machines, hook damage was something I looked for in every service. Most of the time I could polish it out, but some machines would come in with a hook that looked like a cheese grater. In those cases I had to change it. Every time a needle breaks the bobbin case and hook race should be checked. Undiscovered damage will cause more breaks, due to thread catching, until the hook must be replaced. |
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Re: Looping top thread on narrow satin stitches and back stitch
laucke2011@...
Found the answer to my problem in Jim's footbook, ( pity I hadn't looked there first and saved myself so much frustration) there are two burrs on the inside of my embroidery foot, got most of them off but need some really fine paper to finish the job. Great app Jim and Dianne. Naomi
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Re: 15000 V2 vs V1-Broken Needle threader
Rhonda
My needle threader only works on 100% cotton. It worked about 3 x when I first got it the I had it fixed it worked maybe once and never again. Not game to put machine in for repair again as he had it for 5 weeks last time.
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Re: Koala Quilt Mate Plus for Janome MC12000 for sale
Barb Engvall
Not interested in the cabinet as I have a 15000 also, but live in Eastern WA and love the Sunriver area!!!
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Re: Organizing Embroidery Designs
Barb Engvall
Thanks…I think I heard about this before but had forgotten about it…will check it out…
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Looping top thread on narrow satin stitches and back stitch
laucke2011@...
Can any tell me how to stop my Janome 12000 looping on top side of fabric when doing narrow satin stitch and back stitch, but only some times, I have slowed machine down, lowered the pressure foot, laid thread down, put on stand at back, used yellow bobbin case, red bobbin case 80/12, 75/11 needles, and using fusible tearaway, float a tearaway and solvy on top, when using back stand have put painters tape over edge of machine lid inside of rough plastic edge and none of the above have worked, you just don't know when it is going to start looping. Picture of looping attached. Naomi Not yet loopy, Jim says: From the picture it looks like the narrow satin stitches are going over some dense weave stitching. That can cause the thread to be held tight against the needle so that a stitch is skipped. You might try using a purple tip needle. Another option would be to use a finer thread for the satin stitch, such as a 60wt. |
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Re: 15000 V2 vs V1-Broken Needle threader
m1955seamstress
My needle threader broke a needle too! Happened in December but I haven't had a chance to take my machine in to my dealer. The needle was stuck up in the threader or whatever that area is! Anyway, I had to remove the needle. I tried to do it very slowly and cautiously. But unfortunately now my threader misses the needle hole. :(
My dealer said this time he would cover it under the warranty. I had a problem with the threader earlier and he indicated I had done something wrong. He is a very nice older gentleman and had done some other repairs for free for me so I didn't dispute it since it was not an expensive repair. But this is now the second time I have had to haul my machine in to have the threader fixed. I think I liked the simpler threader on the 12000! You would think for the price we paid for these top of the line machines they could have a better threader! Other than that, I love my 15000! Marla, in Indiana |
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Re: 5 thread spool holder and the 15000
Anne Parker <annegparker@...>
Totally agree with using the straight stitch plate - that's why I love my old straight stitch machines. No possiblity about forgetting to change a stitch plate and no sideways needle bar movement. I don't think you can beat one working properly with a zig zag machine. :0) Anne www.sewingtales.wordpress.comWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy. "Desiderata" Max Ehrmann On 14 January 2015 at 20:04, jsm1144@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
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Re: 15000 V2 vs V1-Broken Needle threader
Beverly Leischner
This is exactly the same thing that happened to my needle threader. I couldn't beleive that it had actually broken the needle! My dealer worked on it twice. It would be fine for a few times then would not thread the needle. I hated to take it back again but finally called him about it. He said they now had information about needle threader repairs from Janome and to bring it in. It was fixed but again it has stopped working and I have not taken it back yet. Haven't had time to do any sewing since before Christmas so must get on it as it worked so very well for the first year or so.
Thought you might like to know this had happened to someone else. Bev in Alberta "....I set everything up ready to sew and when I used the needle threader it actually broke the needle although it did thread it because the needle point was hanging on the thread. So the needle must have been inserted properly as it threaded. I changed the needle and tried again but it refused to thread the needle. It kept missing it. To cut a long story short the machine was sent back to Janome and is now somewhere between Janome and Scotland on its way back to me. My local dealer told me that Janome said they had never had this happen before. I wonder "Why me?"! But I cannot fault the service." |
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Re: 5 thread spool holder and the 15000 [1 Attachment]
janetpiekarski
I think that Janome thinks that you're going to take that thingie off when you're not using the spool holder. The lid should be open when you're using that holder anyway. You can take if off and leave it in that little indented place that they allow for feet. Also anyone commenting on stitch should remember that the 12000 and 15000 have a 9mm stitch width (and there fore a 9+mm hole in the throat plate. If you want to make sure your straight stitch is spectacular (which we all agree Janome machines do) you should be using the straight stitch plate-it's so easy to change, why not? |
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Re: 5 thread spool holder and the 15000
Anne Parker <annegparker@...>
Cheryl To me it looks like there is about 1/4 inch above the top of the hole and the lid when it is closed. If you can fit something in to the hole that only protrudes 1/4 inch and screw or somehow fix something into the side of it - like the screw eye I suggested - then the hole could be set vertical so the thread passed through it, or horizontal when you wanted to close the lid. Will get round to trying it sometime (once I've crossed a few more things off my to do list!) and if I do get anything to work will post. Anne www.sewingtales.wordpress.comWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy. "Desiderata" Max Ehrmann On 14 January 2015 at 15:52, capaul@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
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Re: 5 thread spool holder and the 15000 [1 Attachment]
Anne Parker <annegparker@...>
Brilliant idea Lou That set me looking in my stationary draw and I now have an idea to cut down one of those rubbers you put on the end of a pencil and screw a screw eye into the side of it. It fits over the bobbin winder snugly. - but think it could also be cut down to fit into the hole for the horizontal spool pin on the 15000 or other machines. Anne www.sewingtales.wordpress.comWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy. "Desiderata" Max Ehrmann On 14 January 2015 at 03:27, Lou Ann Bush louannbush@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
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Re: AcuFil quilting patterns
HEATHER COWAN
You can make your own quilt blocks for the accufil using the design components that come with the hoop and software. I also have some lovely collections from Anita Gooddesign and they are multi sized up to 8x8. Hugs Heather Sent from my iPad On Jan 14, 2015, at 8:35 AM, robynsaunt@... [janome12000] <janome12000@...> wrote:
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Re: 5 thread spool holder and the 15000
Cheryl Paul
Good Morning,
On my 15000, I don't see any way of closing the lid tight with anything in the extra spool holder pin. I don't see how it would be possible to put something in that little hole and have another thing to guide thread that would be in the space allowed for the lid. I think that Janome could have had that spool pin hole somewhere inside, perhaps somewhere beside the bobbin winder but not interfering with it. Just adding my 2 cents worth. Cheryl - Saskatoon |
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