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Re: My Janome 12000

vicki chrobak
 

Thank you Maggie for educating me. The fused power plugs, are they like surge protectors?

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Vicki Jo


--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Anne"<csarina43@...> wrote:

No its not plugged into a surge protector, when it started misbehaving we were watching TV had there been a power surge I would have thought it would have affected everything?
Anne and I live in Great Britain, and though we do get fluctitions to our power supplies, its usually brown outs that cause problems. For example if there's a big sports event on TV, during an interval thousands of kettles will get turned on, and there's a very short lived power drop. Our main house fuse boards would trip out before we get anything zappedby a power surge and all our electrical items including sewing/embroidery machines have fused power plugs rated to the item they're attached to.
Maggie Cooper

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Re: My Janome 12000

maggie cooper
 

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Anne" <csarina43@...> wrote:

Thanks for the comment re my machine, I have not idea what the surge protector is you are talking about. I am in the UK I have my two lap tops on a surge protector but did not think to use one for the machine. I did not know you can get one with a battery back up, tell me more!!
Anne, a power surge protector with battery back up isnt needed in Great Britain, our domestic electricity system is stable. The only real reason for needing one in this country would be if you were a hospital, data storage centre, on a home dyalisis machine where a sudden loss of power would be disastrous.Those all have instant back up generators to provide emergency power and the banks of batterries needed to provide an instant source of power until the generators start kicking out enough power.

I had an 8 hour power cut just yesterday, some one had struck a mains cable with a pickaxe, and with the weather we're having right now, having the power cut for even an hour is uncomfortable. A UPS battery would have been drained long before the power returned. The so called power surge protected extension leads we have here do exactly the same as your plug socket, the fuse blows. So your machine never gets a blast of power that could fry it internally unless you insert a fuse rated higher than your machine requires.A bad idea at any time. Don't waste money on surge protection or unit protection systems with battery back up, you dont need them in UK.
Maggie Cooper.


Re: hoops strength

JUDY
 

I hoop the quilt but put the magnets on before I tighten the hoop screw - I think its also easier than the 11000 because the screw that attaches to the machine is now flat where before I too also had to hang that end of the hoop over the edge of my table --- and no  I have not posted any pictures. I haven't taken any because I think you have to see it in person in order to see the actual stitching, but if I get a chance I will try to take some and see how they turn out


From: gbmko
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Wed, February 8, 2012 1:16:00 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: hoops strength

 

Have you posted a picture? Which album is it in, or please post, as I'd love to see your quilt!

Do you hoop and then add the magnets, or can you just lay the quilt on top and only use magnets? (Have I asked this before?!)

--- In janome12000@..., JUDY PONIKVAR wrote:
>
> at first I thought the GR hoop was flimsy, but now have used it to make my first
> quilt and love it!  I turned in my 11000 for the 12000 - when I tried to hoop a
> quilting project on the 11000 hoops sometimes I had to struggle.. but the GR
> hoop is flexible enough that I had no problem and the hooping went quickly and
> with no problem...I place my project on the hoop with the plastic placing mat on
> top to center and then attach the right and left magnets that come with the
> hoop........somehow it just seems so easy and with the extenstion table it gives
> it more support when doing the embroidery -  although I didn't use the ext table
> everytime...even without the table  the hoop was great .. I quilted my entire
> quilt with the built in designs, looks fabulous!
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: stresover
> To: janome12000@...
> Sent: Tue, February 7, 2012 7:05:00 PM
> Subject: [janome12000] hoops strength
>
>  
> I have the 10K and 11K. Did a project at the local dealer on the 12K and liked
> it, especially the feed. Are the hoops as sturdy on the 12K as they are for the
> 11K? I think I read somewhere that the largest hoop for the 12K didn't seem very
> strong.
>
> Any information about what you like and don't like about the 12K is appreciated.
>


Re: My Janome 12000

maggie cooper
 

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Anne" <csarina43@...> wrote:

No its not plugged into a surge protector, when it started misbehaving we were watching TV had there been a power surge I would have thought it would have affected everything?
Anne and I live in Great Britain, and though we do get fluctitions to our power supplies, its usually brown outs that cause problems. For example if there's a big sports event on TV, during an interval thousands of kettles will get turned on, and there's a very short lived power drop. Our main house fuse boards would trip out before we get anything zappedby a power surge and all our electrical items including sewing/embroidery machines have fused power plugs rated to the item they're attached to.
Maggie Cooper


Re: hoops strength

gbmko
 

Have you posted a picture? Which album is it in, or please post, as I'd love to see your quilt!

Do you hoop and then add the magnets, or can you just lay the quilt on top and only use magnets? (Have I asked this before?!)

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, JUDY PONIKVAR <ponikvar60@...> wrote:

at first I thought the GR hoop was flimsy, but now have used it to make my first
quilt and love it!  I turned in my 11000 for the 12000 - when I tried to hoop a
quilting project on the 11000 hoops sometimes I had to struggle.. but the GR
hoop is flexible enough that I had no problem and the hooping went quickly and
with no problem...I place my project on the hoop with the plastic placing mat on
top to center and then attach the right and left magnets that come with the
hoop........somehow it just seems so easy and with the extenstion table it gives
it more support when doing the embroidery -  although I didn't use the ext table
everytime...even without the table  the hoop was great .. I quilted my entire
quilt with the built in designs, looks fabulous!




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From: stresover <moos@...>
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 7, 2012 7:05:00 PM
Subject: [janome12000] hoops strength

 
I have the 10K and 11K. Did a project at the local dealer on the 12K and liked
it, especially the feed. Are the hoops as sturdy on the 12K as they are for the
11K? I think I read somewhere that the largest hoop for the 12K didn't seem very
strong.

Any information about what you like and don't like about the 12K is appreciated.


Re: My Janome 12000

vicki chrobak
 

Anne, I am not a techie but probably Jim or someone else can explain. They of course protect from surging but in addition are kind of like having an extra back-up hard-drive. That's the way I understand it anyway with my feeble mind. Generally wherever they sell computers they should sell these. Like office supply stores, Best Buy, Staples, Sam's. I'm sure you should be able to buy on-line st Amazon, etc.
Vicki Jo

Thanks for the comment re my machine, I have not idea what the surge
protector is you are talking about. I am in the UK I have my two lap
tops on a surge protector but did not think to use one for the machine. I
did not know you can get one with a battery back up, tell me more!!


Re: New rolling case for the 12000

vicki chrobak
 

Sold!

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Vicki Jo

For a small extra fee you can get a handsome young Sicilian named
Guiseppe to load and unload it for you. Not available in all areas.


Ups battery back-up surge protector

Maria Boyle
 

Sending again... The last pic I sent came out way at the end of the email past all the the yahoo group links. So if you see it here make sure to scroll all the way to bottom.







María

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Re: My Janome 12000

Maria Boyle
 

Hello Anne,

This is a ups battery backup surge protector. Not sure if this picture will come through to the group. If it does not, I will post a picture of it in my yahoo album (Maria B)



I have an 18 x 8 quilting machine with a Quilt Sew Clever ( a quilt designs automated quilting computer ).. I was getting intermittent black screens and sometimes it would reboot and I would have to start over. I thought my QSC was defective. Was having problems with my machine coming to a sudden halt & restarting. I had both my Machine and QSC plugged into a regular power surge strip.

Then I read somewhere that I should have these plugged into a ups battery backup surge protector. Now I have no problems at all.



María

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On Feb 8, 2012, at 4:54 AM, "Anne" <csarina43@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the comment re my machine, I have not idea what the surge protector is you are talking about. I am in the UK I have my two lap tops on a surge protector but did not think to use one for the machine. I did not know you can get one with a battery back up, tell me more!!

I will wait and see what Pete the techie has to say about it when he gets to look at it, as you say Jim they may well decide to send me a new machine and send mine back to Japan.

I did not have any problems with my 11000 until the needle threader failed just before Christmas, I am so glad I still have it. One thing the dealer did not tell me was that they had taken the machine back to its base stage and I had to re install the two updates....could not understand why I could not find the 'J' key to slide the seam guide into position. I know there were a few problems with the 11000 in the first place, which does happen with something new.





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Re: My Janome 12000

Anne <csarina43@...>
 

Thanks for the comment re my machine, I have not idea what the surge protector is you are talking about. I am in the UK I have my two lap tops on a surge protector but did not think to use one for the machine. I did not know you can get one with a battery back up, tell me more!!

I will wait and see what Pete the techie has to say about it when he gets to look at it, as you say Jim they may well decide to send me a new machine and send mine back to Japan.

I did not have any problems with my 11000 until the needle threader failed just before Christmas, I am so glad I still have it. One thing the dealer did not tell me was that they had taken the machine back to its base stage and I had to re install the two updates....could not understand why I could not find the 'J' key to slide the seam guide into position. I know there were a few problems with the 11000 in the first place, which does happen with something new.


Re: New rolling case for the 12000

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

For a small extra fee you can get a handsome young Sicilian named Guiseppe to load and unload it for you. Not available in all areas.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Martin" <shejmartin@...> wrote:

Are they also including a fork-lift so you can get it into the car?

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@> wrote:

Janome has just announced a new rolling case for the 12000. It has an MSRP of $299 and should be available at dealers soon. I have no information other than what is listed on a photo that I have uploaded to the "Diane's Discoveries" album.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/janome12000/photos/album/63133050/pic/1316117331/view

They are also going to be carrying Tutto bags.


Re: New rolling case for the 12000

Maria Boyle
 

That is funny! Good one Sherry. LOL




María

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On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:23 PM, "Sherry Martin" <shejmartin@gmail.com> wrote:

Are they also including a fork-lift so you can get it into the car?

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@...> wrote:

Janome has just announced a new rolling case for the 12000. It has an MSRP of $299 and should be available at dealers soon. I have no information other than what is listed on a photo that I have uploaded to the "Diane's Discoveries" album.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/janome12000/photos/album/63133050/pic/1316117331/view

They are also going to be carrying Tutto bags.



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Re: My Janome 12000

Vikki Youngmeyer
 

When I bought my Janome 350e, it failed 8 months after I got it. I downloaded an upgrade to my flash drive and installed it on the machine. When the machine rebooted it didn’t make it past the Janome banner screen. There was no power failure, glitch or any sort of electrical abnormalities in my house. All the digital clocks without battery backups were still working and showed the correct time. The coffee pot was still showing 9:30am and hadn’t reset itself to midnight! The computers were still behaving themselves! Things just give up sometimes without any help from outside forces or Mother Nature!

 

Turns out the mother board just “gave up the ghost”! The unfortunate thing was the timing when this happened. It happened two days before Hurricane Irene hit the Houston area. With the power out in the store we had to order the part from work using a cell phone and have it shipped to my house and not the store. Getting past that hurdle was difficult! Power had been restored where I lived, but it was still out for another two weeks at the store location.

 

Once the store owner replaced the mother board, which took about an hour and needed an “intervention” from the Janome techie, the machine worked as well as ever and it was one of two that I traded in for the 12000.

 

Vikki

Houston, TX


Re: New rolling case for the 12000

Sherry Martin
 

Are they also including a fork-lift so you can get it into the car?

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@...> wrote:

Janome has just announced a new rolling case for the 12000. It has an MSRP of $299 and should be available at dealers soon. I have no information other than what is listed on a photo that I have uploaded to the "Diane's Discoveries" album.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/janome12000/photos/album/63133050/pic/1316117331/view

They are also going to be carrying Tutto bags.


New rolling case for the 12000

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Janome has just announced a new rolling case for the 12000. It has an MSRP of $299 and should be available at dealers soon. I have no information other than what is listed on a photo that I have uploaded to the "Diane's Discoveries" album.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/janome12000/photos/album/63133050/pic/1316117331/view

They are also going to be carrying Tutto bags.


Re: hoops strength

Sherry Martin
 

The 12000 doesn't have the acufil hoops yet (supposedly they are coming later??). I think the acufil hoops were sturdier for thick projects like quilts. Otherwise I dont' think there is a difference.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "stresover" <moos@...> wrote:

I have the 10K and 11K. Did a project at the local dealer on the 12K and liked it, especially the feed. Are the hoops as sturdy on the 12K as they are for the 11K? I think I read somewhere that the largest hoop for the 12K didn't seem very strong.

Any information about what you like and don't like about the 12K is appreciated.


Re: hoops strength

Sherry Martin
 

One thing they did new with the 12000 hoops is that you can lay them on a flat surface and the part where you hook it onto the machine retracts so it is perfectly flat. On my 11000, I would usually put that part off the table so it would be flat.

Just a little thing, but another of the nice things the 12000 has.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, JUDY PONIKVAR <ponikvar60@...> wrote:

at first I thought the GR hoop was flimsy, but now have used it to make my first
quilt and love it!  I turned in my 11000 for the 12000 - when I tried to hoop a
quilting project on the 11000 hoops sometimes I had to struggle.. but the GR
hoop is flexible enough that I had no problem and the hooping went quickly and
with no problem...I place my project on the hoop with the plastic placing mat on
top to center and then attach the right and left magnets that come with the
hoop........somehow it just seems so easy and with the extenstion table it gives
it more support when doing the embroidery -  although I didn't use the ext table
everytime...even without the table  the hoop was great .. I quilted my entire
quilt with the built in designs, looks fabulous!




________________________________
From: stresover <moos@...>
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, February 7, 2012 7:05:00 PM
Subject: [janome12000] hoops strength

 
I have the 10K and 11K. Did a project at the local dealer on the 12K and liked
it, especially the feed. Are the hoops as sturdy on the 12K as they are for the
11K? I think I read somewhere that the largest hoop for the 12K didn't seem very
strong.

Any information about what you like and don't like about the 12K is appreciated.


Re: hoops strength

JUDY
 

at first I thought the GR hoop was flimsy, but now have used it to make my first quilt and love it!  I turned in my 11000 for the 12000 - when I tried to hoop a quilting project on the 11000 hoops sometimes I had to struggle.. but the GR hoop is flexible enough that I had no problem and the hooping went quickly and with no problem...I place my project on the hoop with the plastic placing mat on top to center and then attach the right and left magnets that come with the hoop........somehow it just seems so easy and with the extenstion table it gives it more support when doing the embroidery -  although I didn't use the ext table everytime...even without the table  the hoop was great .. I quilted my entire quilt with the built in designs, looks fabulous!


From: stresover
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Tue, February 7, 2012 7:05:00 PM
Subject: [janome12000] hoops strength

 

I have the 10K and 11K. Did a project at the local dealer on the 12K and liked it, especially the feed. Are the hoops as sturdy on the 12K as they are for the 11K? I think I read somewhere that the largest hoop for the 12K didn't seem very strong.

Any information about what you like and don't like about the 12K is appreciated.


hoops strength

stresover <moos@...>
 

I have the 10K and 11K. Did a project at the local dealer on the 12K and liked it, especially the feed. Are the hoops as sturdy on the 12K as they are for the 11K? I think I read somewhere that the largest hoop for the 12K didn't seem very strong.

Any information about what you like and don't like about the 12K is appreciated.


Re: My Janome 12000

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

I'm not arguing about that. Virtually all of the electronic gear in our house is on battery-backed UPS systems. My point is that a power surge would have to be devastating to cause the condition that Ann was experiencing.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, vicki chrobak <tulsajo1@...> wrote:

OK Jim. Guess I'm just a believer in protecting my larger investments.

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Vicki Jo

A surge like that would likely have left scorch marks on the walls! Most electronic failures occur within the first 30 days, which is the timeframe for Anne's machine. I'm guessing it's just a failure of a component on the motherboard, which will be corrected by replacement. They may just give her a new machine and send that one back to Japan for dissection.