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Re: Embroidery placement

Chris Krause <nckrause@...>
 

Donna M, we’d love to see pics of your multi-hooped projects…if you want to share.  Did you find it easy to adjust to Digitizer MBX?  (I’m picking mine up on Saturday, can’t wait try out some of my bigger existing designs on the new hoops).

 

Chris

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of Donna Morton
Sent: October-26-11 11:53 AM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Re: Embroidery placement

 




The 12000 moves by less than a millimetre with each touch of the jog key.  Fine tuning placement is fantastic.  I’ve stitched out two multi-hooped projects that I created DigitizerMBX and even without the alignment marks the two parts of the designed lined up perfectly. 

 

I’ve used the design positioning on the Pfaff and Husqvarna.  It is a nice feature on those machines but I have always found multi-hooping easier on my Janome embroidery machines.  The jog is precise.

 

Donna M

Canada

 


Re: Embroidery placement

Pinguin
 

Thanks for this info Donna,
Gerda

Op 26-10-11 20:53, Donna Morton schreef:

 

The 12000 moves by less than a millimetre with each touch of the jog key.  Fine tuning placement is fantastic.  I’ve stitched out two multi-hooped projects that I created DigitizerMBX and even without the alignment marks the two parts of the designed lined up perfectly. 
 
I’ve used the design positioning on the Pfaff and Husqvarna.  It is a nice feature on those machines but I have always found multi-hooping easier on my Janome embroidery machines.  The jog is precise.
 
Donna M
Canada
 
From: Pinguin
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Re: Embroidery placement
 
 

Hello Jim,

what I mean is that once you have your fabric in the hoop and the hoop attached to the embroidery unit, you can move the design in small steps horizontal en vertical (withing the available space ofcourse) so the needle is exactly above the centre of the design. So if you have your fabric right in the hoop and know the centre of the design (helped by the template) you know you start in the right place.

Can Janome do this as well (moving the design)

Thanks,
Gerda

Op 25-10-11 23:17, Jim_Stutsman schreef:

 

It's a little hard to say. The Pfaff website is a little vague, and the YouTube video that demonstrates the feature isn't working. The "Precise Placement" feature seems to be only for split designs with multiple parts. Janome's Digitizer software is about to get an update that will put alignment marks in the design, which would make it very easy to line up the parts. Janome has always been able to line up design parts, even before Pfaff had the feature. They just do it in a different way.

--- In mailto:janome12000%40yahoogroups.com, Pinguin mailto:pinguin60@... wrote:
>
> Thanks for this info Jim.
>
> Can you also tell me if the Janome has 'precise placement' like the Pfaff?
>
> thanks,
> Gerda


Re: Embroidery placement

Donna Morton
 

The 12000 moves by less than a millimetre with each touch of the jog key.  Fine tuning placement is fantastic.  I’ve stitched out two multi-hooped projects that I created DigitizerMBX and even without the alignment marks the two parts of the designed lined up perfectly. 
 
I’ve used the design positioning on the Pfaff and Husqvarna.  It is a nice feature on those machines but I have always found multi-hooping easier on my Janome embroidery machines.  The jog is precise.
 
Donna M
Canada
 

From: Pinguin
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Re: Embroidery placement
 
 

Hello Jim,

what I mean is that once you have your fabric in the hoop and the hoop attached to the embroidery unit, you can move the design in small steps horizontal en vertical (withing the available space ofcourse) so the needle is exactly above the centre of the design. So if you have your fabric right in the hoop and know the centre of the design (helped by the template) you know you start in the right place.

Can Janome do this as well (moving the design)

Thanks,
Gerda

Op 25-10-11 23:17, Jim_Stutsman schreef:

 

It's a little hard to say. The Pfaff website is a little vague, and the YouTube video that demonstrates the feature isn't working. The "Precise Placement" feature seems to be only for split designs with multiple parts. Janome's Digitizer software is about to get an update that will put alignment marks in the design, which would make it very easy to line up the parts. Janome has always been able to line up design parts, even before Pfaff had the feature. They just do it in a different way.

--- In mailto:janome12000%40yahoogroups.com, Pinguin mailto:pinguin60@... wrote:
>
> Thanks for this info Jim.
>
> Can you also tell me if the Janome has 'precise placement' like the Pfaff?
>
> thanks,
> Gerda


Re: Embroidery placement

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Prices are all over the map, due to currency conversion, different country costs, etc. My best guess is that in the US the upgrade will be around $500 USD. Needless to say, this will vary a lot from dealer to dealer and country to country. That guess is based on it being about the same price as the version 3 upgrade a few years back.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Alison Wheelock" <alisonwheelock@...> wrote:

Jim, You say the upgrade to Digitizer MBX will be an upgrade to Digitizer 10K, Pro, etc. Do you have any idea how much that upgrade will cost, or are we not allowed to talk prices on here? Even a ballpark figure.
Thanks,Alison in Texas


Re: Embroidery placement

Alison Wheelock
 


Re: Embroidery placement

Pinguin
 

Thanks Jim,
this was exactly what I meant.

Gerda

Op 26-10-11 16:59, Jim_Stutsman schreef:

 

Yes, we have had this ability on Janome embroidery machines since the 10000. There are a set of JOG keys on the screen that let you move the hoop in tiny steps in any direction. If you have a template on the fabric, you can use these keys to position the needle directly over the center of the template, for perfect placement.

--- In janome12000@..., Pinguin wrote:
>
> Hello Jim,
>
> what I mean is that once you have your fabric in the hoop and the hoop
> attached to the embroidery unit, you can move the design in small steps
> horizontal en vertical (withing the available space ofcourse) so the
> needle is exactly above the centre of the design. So if you have your
> fabric right in the hoop and know the centre of the design (helped by
> the template) you know you start in the right place.
>
> Can Janome do this as well (moving the design)
>
> Thanks,
> Gerda


Re: Embroidery placement

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Yes, we have had this ability on Janome embroidery machines since the 10000. There are a set of JOG keys on the screen that let you move the hoop in tiny steps in any direction. If you have a template on the fabric, you can use these keys to position the needle directly over the center of the template, for perfect placement.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Pinguin <pinguin60@...> wrote:

Hello Jim,

what I mean is that once you have your fabric in the hoop and the hoop
attached to the embroidery unit, you can move the design in small steps
horizontal en vertical (withing the available space ofcourse) so the
needle is exactly above the centre of the design. So if you have your
fabric right in the hoop and know the centre of the design (helped by
the template) you know you start in the right place.

Can Janome do this as well (moving the design)

Thanks,
Gerda


Re: Embroidery placement

Pinguin
 

Hello Jim,

what I mean is that once you have your fabric in the hoop and the hoop attached to the embroidery unit, you can move the design in small steps horizontal en vertical (withing the available space ofcourse) so the needle is exactly above the centre of the design. So if you have your fabric right in the hoop and know the centre of the design (helped by the template) you know you start in the right place.

Can Janome do this as well (moving the design)

Thanks,
Gerda

Op 25-10-11 23:17, Jim_Stutsman schreef:

 

It's a little hard to say. The Pfaff website is a little vague, and the YouTube video that demonstrates the feature isn't working. The "Precise Placement" feature seems to be only for split designs with multiple parts. Janome's Digitizer software is about to get an update that will put alignment marks in the design, which would make it very easy to line up the parts. Janome has always been able to line up design parts, even before Pfaff had the feature. They just do it in a different way.

--- In janome12000@..., Pinguin wrote:
>
> Thanks for this info Jim.
>
> Can you also tell me if the Janome has 'precise placement' like the Pfaff?
>
> thanks,
> Gerda


Re: Embroidery placement

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Here's the skinny on the placement marks for multi-hooped designs:

1. They will be added as an option in the first update to Digitizer MBX.

2. The initial version of MBX (WITHOUT the placement mark option) will ship some time in November. This includes the upgrade package, which will update Digitizer 10000, Pro, or MB 3.0 to MBX.

3. The marks will be added to the design when it is sent to the machine or USB drive. That means it will work with any designs, whether created or just opened.

I would guess the update will not be out until late December at the earliest.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "redrocks55" <redrocks55@...> wrote:

Jim

Will the placement lines be on all designs that we bring into DigiPro 4 or
just the ones we digitize?

Thanks, Marcia


Re: Embroidery placement

redrocks55
 

Jim

Will the placement lines be on all designs that we bring into DigiPro 4 or just the ones we digitize?

Thanks, Marcia

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of Jim_Stutsman

 

 

It's a little hard to say. The Pfaff website is a little vague, and the YouTube video that demonstrates the feature isn't working. The "Precise Placement" feature seems to be only for split designs with multiple parts. Janome's Digitizer software is about to get an update that will put alignment marks in the design, which would make it very easy to line up the parts. Janome has always been able to line up design parts, even before Pfaff had the feature. They just do it in a different way.


--- In janome12000@..., Pinguin wrote:
>
> Thanks for this info Jim.
>
> Can you also tell me if the Janome has 'precise placement' like the Pfaff?
>
> thanks,
> Gerda


Re: Embroidery placement

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

It's a little hard to say. The Pfaff website is a little vague, and the YouTube video that demonstrates the feature isn't working. The "Precise Placement" feature seems to be only for split designs with multiple parts. Janome's Digitizer software is about to get an update that will put alignment marks in the design, which would make it very easy to line up the parts. Janome has always been able to line up design parts, even before Pfaff had the feature. They just do it in a different way.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Pinguin <pinguin60@...> wrote:

Thanks for this info Jim.

Can you also tell me if the Janome has 'precise placement' like the Pfaff?

thanks,
Gerda


Embroidery placement

Pinguin
 

Thanks for this info Jim.

Can you also tell me if the Janome has 'precise placement' like the Pfaff?

thanks,
Gerda

Op 24-10-11 23:41, Jim_Stutsman schreef:

 

Digitizer MBX supports all Janome formats - SEW, JEF, JEF+, JPX, and of course JAN. It also opens EMD, EMX, PES, PEC, HUS, VIP, VP3, EXP, PCS, PCM, CSD, XXX, DST, DSB, U??, and 10O. You should be fine with JEF, but I would avoid JEF+ as Embird never got that one quite right. The 12000 will accept all JEF designs.

--- In janome12000@..., Pinguin wrote:
>
> Hello Jim,
> which Embroidery formats can be done on the Janome 12000?
> I like to digitize with Embird and I hope they will add the new
> format(extension) in a future update. But you can safe as JEF, so if the
> 12000 takes that format, it is fine for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Gerda


Re: Digitizer Software -- What the hey

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Digitizer MBX supports all Janome formats - SEW, JEF, JEF+, JPX, and of course JAN. It also opens EMD, EMX, PES, PEC, HUS, VIP, VP3, EXP, PCS, PCM, CSD, XXX, DST, DSB, U??, and 10O. You should be fine with JEF, but I would avoid JEF+ as Embird never got that one quite right. The 12000 will accept all JEF designs.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Pinguin <pinguin60@...> wrote:

Hello Jim,
which Embroidery formats can be done on the Janome 12000?
I like to digitize with Embird and I hope they will add the new
format(extension) in a future update. But you can safe as JEF, so if the
12000 takes that format, it is fine for me.

Thanks,
Gerda


Re: Digitizer Software -- What the hey

Pinguin
 

Hello Jim,
which Embroidery formats can be done on the Janome 12000?
I like to digitize with Embird and I hope they will add the new format(extension) in a future update. But you can safe as JEF, so if the 12000 takes that format, it is fine for me.

Thanks,
Gerda

Op 24-10-11 16:30, Jim_Stutsman schreef:

 

This is an easy one. As Sue says, Digitizer MBX is the only version to fully support the 12000. Since your wife is using Digitizer Pro V2, she can do an upgrade to Digitizer MBX. The best option for you is to negotiate the Digitizer MBX upgrade as part of a package deal for the 12000 machine. I cannot imagine that any dealer would not be willing to include it at no cost.

>From your perspective, this software is also in full support of all flavors of Windows XP, Windows Vista (shudder), and Windows 7. While there will be updates to download and install this version will work right out of the box without an update. That may not be true for Digitizer MB V3.

Congratulations on your decision to go to the 12000. Your efforts should result in a great supply of "attaboys"!

--- In janome12000@..., "hleighbirch" wrote:
>
> I am not the sewing person in our family but, I am her biggest supporter and the motivation behind getting the MC10000, then the MC11000 and now her MC1200 is due in about a month. My role is supporter in chief and all things computer. She has Digitizer ProMB Ver 2.0 (upgraded from MC 10000 Digitizer) and while trying to figure out which Ver 3.0 (Janome USA website) she should upgrade to, I discovered that new software has just been released in September called Digitizer MBX Ver 4. Can someone please point me in the right direction or clue me in as to which software, Digitizer Pro V 3.0, Digitizer MB V 3.0 or Digitizer MBX would be the smart/best/better/whatever upgrade for someone moving from the MC11000 to the MC12000. Thanks folks.
>
> Howard
>


Re: Digitizer Software -- What the hey

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

This is an easy one. As Sue says, Digitizer MBX is the only version to fully support the 12000. Since your wife is using Digitizer Pro V2, she can do an upgrade to Digitizer MBX. The best option for you is to negotiate the Digitizer MBX upgrade as part of a package deal for the 12000 machine. I cannot imagine that any dealer would not be willing to include it at no cost.

From your perspective, this software is also in full support of all flavors of Windows XP, Windows Vista (shudder), and Windows 7. While there will be updates to download and install this version will work right out of the box without an update. That may not be true for Digitizer MB V3.

Congratulations on your decision to go to the 12000. Your efforts should result in a great supply of "attaboys"!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "hleighbirch" <hbirch@...> wrote:

I am not the sewing person in our family but, I am her biggest supporter and the motivation behind getting the MC10000, then the MC11000 and now her MC1200 is due in about a month. My role is supporter in chief and all things computer. She has Digitizer ProMB Ver 2.0 (upgraded from MC 10000 Digitizer) and while trying to figure out which Ver 3.0 (Janome USA website) she should upgrade to, I discovered that new software has just been released in September called Digitizer MBX Ver 4. Can someone please point me in the right direction or clue me in as to which software, Digitizer Pro V 3.0, Digitizer MB V 3.0 or Digitizer MBX would be the smart/best/better/whatever upgrade for someone moving from the MC11000 to the MC12000. Thanks folks.

Howard


Re: Clothsetter

Patricia Ward
 

Jennie,
If you trade your 7700 you still have the features of it in the 12000 plus the embroidery and even more.  My 7700 is being traded and I am keeping my 11000.  That is like having three machines . 

And I do hope mine comes in soon!  I am getting so antsy waiting.  It has been ordered since October 1.

Pat

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:55 PM, djbozarth3 <denjen14@...> wrote:





Thanks for the info Chris.  Hopefully Jim will have more to say about this. I have the 11000 and the 7700 so I am on the fence about trading my 11000.  I'm actually quite happy with both machines but would love to have the larger hoops of the 12000 for quilting.

Jennie

--- In janome12000@..., "Chris Krause" wrote:
>
> I know what you mean, Jennie, I rely on the clothsetter as well, although
> I'm getting the hang of using the plastic templates.  My dealer has told her
> customers that a clothsetter is in the works...Jim will probably have the
> scoop on this.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On
> Behalf Of djbozarth3
> Sent: October-23-11 3:46 PM
> To: janome12000@...
> Subject: [janome12000] Clothsetter
>
> I am a little concerned that the 12000 doesn't come with a clothsetter.  I
> know you can use the plastic templates that come with the hoops for design
> placement but I've always printed out a template of my design and used the
> clothsetter with wonderful placement results.  Should I be concerned about
> this?  The clothsetter just seems a little easier to me.
>
> Jennie
>
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Re: Digitizer Software -- What the hey

Sue Sweet
 

Hi Howard,
First of all I think your wife is very lucky to have such a supporting husband !
Apart from new features of Digitizer MBX  Ver.4 for the role of digitizing it is also to support the new sized hoops that the 12000 offers. For that reason I would suggest upgrading to that version would be your best bet. You didn’t say where you are located but I believe here in Australia the software is not yet available, it may be elsewhere in the world ! As for the cost of upgrades, that too is unknown. I was lucky enough to attend the release of the 12000 in Orlando in September and also took a class showing the features of the new software. I will be upgrading as soon as I can.
Sue
 

Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:48 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Digitizer Software -- What the hey
 
 

I am not the sewing person in our family but, I am her biggest supporter and the motivation behind getting the MC10000, then the MC11000 and now her MC1200 is due in about a month. My role is supporter in chief and all things computer. She has Digitizer ProMB Ver 2.0 (upgraded from MC 10000 Digitizer) and while trying to figure out which Ver 3.0 (Janome USA website) she should upgrade to, I discovered that new software has just been released in September called Digitizer MBX Ver 4. Can someone please point me in the right direction or clue me in as to which software, Digitizer Pro V 3.0, Digitizer MB V 3.0 or Digitizer MBX would be the smart/best/better/whatever upgrade for someone moving from the MC11000 to the MC12000. Thanks folks.

Howard


Digitizer Software -- What the hey

hleighbirch
 

I am not the sewing person in our family but, I am her biggest supporter and the motivation behind getting the MC10000, then the MC11000 and now her MC1200 is due in about a month. My role is supporter in chief and all things computer. She has Digitizer ProMB Ver 2.0 (upgraded from MC 10000 Digitizer) and while trying to figure out which Ver 3.0 (Janome USA website) she should upgrade to, I discovered that new software has just been released in September called Digitizer MBX Ver 4. Can someone please point me in the right direction or clue me in as to which software, Digitizer Pro V 3.0, Digitizer MB V 3.0 or Digitizer MBX would be the smart/best/better/whatever upgrade for someone moving from the MC11000 to the MC12000. Thanks folks.

Howard


Re: Clothsetter

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The official word at Janome Institute was that there would not be a Clothsetter for the 12000. This may be due to the fact that it would have to be bigger than the 11000 Clothsetter, which was actually listed in the parts catalog as a table. It might also be due to the fact that there were fewer 11000 Clothsetters sold than for previous models. We bundled them in with most of the 11000s we sold, but I know that many of them were never used.

The nice thing about having large hoops is that you don't have to be super accurate when positioning. As long as you can get it in straight, and the design does not completely fill the hoop, you can reposition the design after opening. Here are the steps:

1. Print the template and attach it to the item to be embroidered.

2. Put the fabric in the hoop, with the plastic template on top. Get the crosshair of the template as close as you can to the hole in the center of the template. It doesn't have to be right on the mark, as long as it's straight.

3. Use the JOG keys to move the hoop until the crosshair of the template is directly under the needle.

4. (Optional, but recommended) Take the design into the EDIT screen and save it to the built in memory of the machine. This is insurance. If something happens (power failure or worse), having a saved copy will get you back where you were without the need to JOG again.

Two of the 12000 hoops can be used with magnets, which makes it easier. Commercial machines have never had Clothsetters, so it's not something you MUST have. What a lot of people have forgotten is that the Clothsetter was originally created to allow larger designs to be created from multiple parts in the tiny hoop on the 8000.

When we first started using the MB-4 we missed having a Clothsetter, but you get used to it pretty quickly. For just holding the hoop while putting the fabric in, there are quite a number of fixtures available to the commercial market that you could use.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "djbozarth3" <denjen14@...> wrote:

I am a little concerned that the 12000 doesn't come with a clothsetter. I know you can use the plastic templates that come with the hoops for design placement but I've always printed out a template of my design and used the clothsetter with wonderful placement results. Should I be concerned about this? The clothsetter just seems a little easier to me.

Jennie


Re: Clothsetter

djbozarth3 <denjen14@...>
 

Thanks for the info Chris. Hopefully Jim will have more to say about this. I have the 11000 and the 7700 so I am on the fence about trading my 11000. I'm actually quite happy with both machines but would love to have the larger hoops of the 12000 for quilting.

Jennie

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Krause" <nckrause@...> wrote:

I know what you mean, Jennie, I rely on the clothsetter as well, although
I'm getting the hang of using the plastic templates. My dealer has told her
customers that a clothsetter is in the works...Jim will probably have the
scoop on this.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: janome12000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:janome12000@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of djbozarth3
Sent: October-23-11 3:46 PM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Clothsetter

I am a little concerned that the 12000 doesn't come with a clothsetter. I
know you can use the plastic templates that come with the hoops for design
placement but I've always printed out a template of my design and used the
clothsetter with wonderful placement results. Should I be concerned about
this? The clothsetter just seems a little easier to me.

Jennie







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