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Re: Clothsetter

Patricia Ward
 

Jennie,
If you trade your 7700 you still have the features of it in the 12000 plus the embroidery and even more.  My 7700 is being traded and I am keeping my 11000.  That is like having three machines . 

And I do hope mine comes in soon!  I am getting so antsy waiting.  It has been ordered since October 1.

Pat

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:55 PM, djbozarth3 <denjen14@...> wrote:





Thanks for the info Chris.  Hopefully Jim will have more to say about this. I have the 11000 and the 7700 so I am on the fence about trading my 11000.  I'm actually quite happy with both machines but would love to have the larger hoops of the 12000 for quilting.

Jennie

--- In janome12000@..., "Chris Krause" wrote:
>
> I know what you mean, Jennie, I rely on the clothsetter as well, although
> I'm getting the hang of using the plastic templates.  My dealer has told her
> customers that a clothsetter is in the works...Jim will probably have the
> scoop on this.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On
> Behalf Of djbozarth3
> Sent: October-23-11 3:46 PM
> To: janome12000@...
> Subject: [janome12000] Clothsetter
>
> I am a little concerned that the 12000 doesn't come with a clothsetter.  I
> know you can use the plastic templates that come with the hoops for design
> placement but I've always printed out a template of my design and used the
> clothsetter with wonderful placement results.  Should I be concerned about
> this?  The clothsetter just seems a little easier to me.
>
> Jennie
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Re: Digitizer Software -- What the hey

Sue Sweet
 

Hi Howard,
First of all I think your wife is very lucky to have such a supporting husband !
Apart from new features of Digitizer MBX  Ver.4 for the role of digitizing it is also to support the new sized hoops that the 12000 offers. For that reason I would suggest upgrading to that version would be your best bet. You didn’t say where you are located but I believe here in Australia the software is not yet available, it may be elsewhere in the world ! As for the cost of upgrades, that too is unknown. I was lucky enough to attend the release of the 12000 in Orlando in September and also took a class showing the features of the new software. I will be upgrading as soon as I can.
Sue
 

Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:48 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Digitizer Software -- What the hey
 
 

I am not the sewing person in our family but, I am her biggest supporter and the motivation behind getting the MC10000, then the MC11000 and now her MC1200 is due in about a month. My role is supporter in chief and all things computer. She has Digitizer ProMB Ver 2.0 (upgraded from MC 10000 Digitizer) and while trying to figure out which Ver 3.0 (Janome USA website) she should upgrade to, I discovered that new software has just been released in September called Digitizer MBX Ver 4. Can someone please point me in the right direction or clue me in as to which software, Digitizer Pro V 3.0, Digitizer MB V 3.0 or Digitizer MBX would be the smart/best/better/whatever upgrade for someone moving from the MC11000 to the MC12000. Thanks folks.

Howard


Digitizer Software -- What the hey

hleighbirch
 

I am not the sewing person in our family but, I am her biggest supporter and the motivation behind getting the MC10000, then the MC11000 and now her MC1200 is due in about a month. My role is supporter in chief and all things computer. She has Digitizer ProMB Ver 2.0 (upgraded from MC 10000 Digitizer) and while trying to figure out which Ver 3.0 (Janome USA website) she should upgrade to, I discovered that new software has just been released in September called Digitizer MBX Ver 4. Can someone please point me in the right direction or clue me in as to which software, Digitizer Pro V 3.0, Digitizer MB V 3.0 or Digitizer MBX would be the smart/best/better/whatever upgrade for someone moving from the MC11000 to the MC12000. Thanks folks.

Howard


Re: Clothsetter

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The official word at Janome Institute was that there would not be a Clothsetter for the 12000. This may be due to the fact that it would have to be bigger than the 11000 Clothsetter, which was actually listed in the parts catalog as a table. It might also be due to the fact that there were fewer 11000 Clothsetters sold than for previous models. We bundled them in with most of the 11000s we sold, but I know that many of them were never used.

The nice thing about having large hoops is that you don't have to be super accurate when positioning. As long as you can get it in straight, and the design does not completely fill the hoop, you can reposition the design after opening. Here are the steps:

1. Print the template and attach it to the item to be embroidered.

2. Put the fabric in the hoop, with the plastic template on top. Get the crosshair of the template as close as you can to the hole in the center of the template. It doesn't have to be right on the mark, as long as it's straight.

3. Use the JOG keys to move the hoop until the crosshair of the template is directly under the needle.

4. (Optional, but recommended) Take the design into the EDIT screen and save it to the built in memory of the machine. This is insurance. If something happens (power failure or worse), having a saved copy will get you back where you were without the need to JOG again.

Two of the 12000 hoops can be used with magnets, which makes it easier. Commercial machines have never had Clothsetters, so it's not something you MUST have. What a lot of people have forgotten is that the Clothsetter was originally created to allow larger designs to be created from multiple parts in the tiny hoop on the 8000.

When we first started using the MB-4 we missed having a Clothsetter, but you get used to it pretty quickly. For just holding the hoop while putting the fabric in, there are quite a number of fixtures available to the commercial market that you could use.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "djbozarth3" <denjen14@...> wrote:

I am a little concerned that the 12000 doesn't come with a clothsetter. I know you can use the plastic templates that come with the hoops for design placement but I've always printed out a template of my design and used the clothsetter with wonderful placement results. Should I be concerned about this? The clothsetter just seems a little easier to me.

Jennie


Re: Clothsetter

djbozarth3 <denjen14@...>
 

Thanks for the info Chris. Hopefully Jim will have more to say about this. I have the 11000 and the 7700 so I am on the fence about trading my 11000. I'm actually quite happy with both machines but would love to have the larger hoops of the 12000 for quilting.

Jennie

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Krause" <nckrause@...> wrote:

I know what you mean, Jennie, I rely on the clothsetter as well, although
I'm getting the hang of using the plastic templates. My dealer has told her
customers that a clothsetter is in the works...Jim will probably have the
scoop on this.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: janome12000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:janome12000@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of djbozarth3
Sent: October-23-11 3:46 PM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Clothsetter

I am a little concerned that the 12000 doesn't come with a clothsetter. I
know you can use the plastic templates that come with the hoops for design
placement but I've always printed out a template of my design and used the
clothsetter with wonderful placement results. Should I be concerned about
this? The clothsetter just seems a little easier to me.

Jennie







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Re: Clothsetter

Chris Krause <nckrause@...>
 

I know what you mean, Jennie, I rely on the clothsetter as well, although
I'm getting the hang of using the plastic templates. My dealer has told her
customers that a clothsetter is in the works...Jim will probably have the
scoop on this.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: janome12000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:janome12000@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of djbozarth3
Sent: October-23-11 3:46 PM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Clothsetter

I am a little concerned that the 12000 doesn't come with a clothsetter. I
know you can use the plastic templates that come with the hoops for design
placement but I've always printed out a template of my design and used the
clothsetter with wonderful placement results. Should I be concerned about
this? The clothsetter just seems a little easier to me.

Jennie







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Clothsetter

djbozarth3 <denjen14@...>
 

I am a little concerned that the 12000 doesn't come with a clothsetter. I know you can use the plastic templates that come with the hoops for design placement but I've always printed out a template of my design and used the clothsetter with wonderful placement results. Should I be concerned about this? The clothsetter just seems a little easier to me.

Jennie


Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

Sue Sweet
 

Hi Jen,
Yes it does have a needle threader but it’s a manual pull down one, not the automated one that you operate with a touch of a button like on the 11000/10000. A lot of ladies have had problems with the automated ones and they were rather slow.
Sue
 

Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: [janome12000] Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!
 
 

I heard that the new 12000 machine doesn’t have an automatic needle threader.  Not sure whether that’s a plus or a minus, since it does have the magnifying glass to help you see to thread it yourself?

Jen in Oz, who has only seen the machine “up close” once and not long for that!

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of Jim_Stutsman
Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 3:13 AM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: [janome12000] Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

 

Nothing was left out, in fact a lot has been added. However the removable embroidery arm divides the weight between two pieces, leaving the machine lighter than those with non-removable embroidery mechanisms.

--- In mailto:janome12000%40yahoogroups.com, Frecia Kelly wrote:
>
> If the machine is "a few pounds lighter"....what did they leave out?  Or what metal parts were turned into plastic?

> Fyfee
>


Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

Jen Stosser <jenerators@...>
 

I heard that the new 12000 machine doesn’t have an automatic needle threader.  Not sure whether that’s a plus or a minus, since it does have the magnifying glass to help you see to thread it yourself?

Jen in Oz, who has only seen the machine “up close” once and not long for that!

 

 

From: janome12000@... [mailto:janome12000@...] On Behalf Of Jim_Stutsman
Sent: Monday, 24 October 2011 3:13 AM
To: janome12000@...
Subject: [janome12000] Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

 

 

Nothing was left out, in fact a lot has been added. However the removable embroidery arm divides the weight between two pieces, leaving the machine lighter than those with non-removable embroidery mechanisms.

--- In janome12000@..., Frecia Kelly wrote:
>
> If the machine is "a few pounds lighter"....what did they leave out?  Or what metal parts were turned into plastic?
>  
> Fyfee
>


Re: Machine #

Pinguin
 

Sorry, I sent this to soon. The number states 7700 and the width of the 12000 is more than the 7700. But maybe the trolley is similar, just a bit wider.

Op 23-10-11 21:55, Pinguin schreef:

 

The Janome website show a trolley for the Horizon. It doesn't specify 7700 or 12000. And I think the dimensions are similar so I think this is the trolley you will get.
http://content.janome.com/index.cfm/machines/Accessories/All/Horizon_to_Go_Trolley

Gerda

Op 23-10-11 21:51, Tina Jensen schreef:

 

When I ordered my machine it said it comes with a free trolley bag and free software, Tina.

--- In janome12000@..., "Jim_Stutsman" wrote:
>
> I'm pretty confident that Janome will be coming out with a rolling trolley for the 12000, styled much like the Brother one. I saw what I believe to be a prototype at Janome Institute, although I never got a chance to confirm it. I know what you mean about the Bernina. In one of our last classes at the store there was a Bernina. All the Janome people were seated 2 to a table with their machines, mostly 11000s. The Bernina needed an entire table just for herself, and it took 4 trips to the car to get everything in. It was also the loudest machine in the class.
>
> For non-embroidery classes we really like the Janome 3160. It's just 12 pounds, has full computer capability and a good stitch package. Unlike the JEM series, it has a full 7mm width and is full size. It's good for piecing, but not a great choice for free motion quilting large quilts.
>
> --- In janome12000@..., JOAN KOREN wrote:
> >
> > I take a class where some of the gals have the new Brother Quattro and while this machine is heavy, it does come with its own rolling trolly for taking to classes. That being said, one still has to lift it into the car and it takes 2 of us! This machine does have lots of bells and whistles....more bang for the $ than the Janome IMHO.
> > Joan
> > in TN
> >
> > PS  Also, last time I was in the Bernina quilt shop, those gals also had that hugh 830 that they were bringing to class, which really amazed me.
>


Re: Machine #

Pinguin
 

The Janome website show a trolley for the Horizon. It doesn't specify 7700 or 12000. And I think the dimensions are similar so I think this is the trolley you will get.
http://content.janome.com/index.cfm/machines/Accessories/All/Horizon_to_Go_Trolley

Gerda

Op 23-10-11 21:51, Tina Jensen schreef:

 

When I ordered my machine it said it comes with a free trolley bag and free software, Tina.

--- In janome12000@..., "Jim_Stutsman" wrote:
>
> I'm pretty confident that Janome will be coming out with a rolling trolley for the 12000, styled much like the Brother one. I saw what I believe to be a prototype at Janome Institute, although I never got a chance to confirm it. I know what you mean about the Bernina. In one of our last classes at the store there was a Bernina. All the Janome people were seated 2 to a table with their machines, mostly 11000s. The Bernina needed an entire table just for herself, and it took 4 trips to the car to get everything in. It was also the loudest machine in the class.
>
> For non-embroidery classes we really like the Janome 3160. It's just 12 pounds, has full computer capability and a good stitch package. Unlike the JEM series, it has a full 7mm width and is full size. It's good for piecing, but not a great choice for free motion quilting large quilts.
>
> --- In janome12000@..., JOAN KOREN wrote:
> >
> > I take a class where some of the gals have the new Brother Quattro and while this machine is heavy, it does come with its own rolling trolly for taking to classes. That being said, one still has to lift it into the car and it takes 2 of us! This machine does have lots of bells and whistles....more bang for the $ than the Janome IMHO.
> > Joan
> > in TN
> >
> > PS  Also, last time I was in the Bernina quilt shop, those gals also had that hugh 830 that they were bringing to class, which really amazed me.
>


Re: Machine #

Tina Jensen <jensen.rt@...>
 

When I ordered my machine it said it comes with a free trolley bag and free software, Tina.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@...> wrote:

I'm pretty confident that Janome will be coming out with a rolling trolley for the 12000, styled much like the Brother one. I saw what I believe to be a prototype at Janome Institute, although I never got a chance to confirm it. I know what you mean about the Bernina. In one of our last classes at the store there was a Bernina. All the Janome people were seated 2 to a table with their machines, mostly 11000s. The Bernina needed an entire table just for herself, and it took 4 trips to the car to get everything in. It was also the loudest machine in the class.

For non-embroidery classes we really like the Janome 3160. It's just 12 pounds, has full computer capability and a good stitch package. Unlike the JEM series, it has a full 7mm width and is full size. It's good for piecing, but not a great choice for free motion quilting large quilts.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, JOAN KOREN <jfkquilts@> wrote:

I take a class where some of the gals have the new Brother Quattro and while this machine is heavy, it does come with its own rolling trolly for taking to classes. That being said, one still has to lift it into the car and it takes 2 of us! This machine does have lots of bells and whistles....more bang for the $ than the Janome IMHO.
Joan
in TN

PS  Also, last time I was in the Bernina quilt shop, those gals also had that hugh 830 that they were bringing to class, which really amazed me.


Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Nothing was left out, in fact a lot has been added. However the removable embroidery arm divides the weight between two pieces, leaving the machine lighter than those with non-removable embroidery mechanisms.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Frecia Kelly <fyfeesewingdemon@...> wrote:

If the machine is "a few pounds lighter"....what did they leave out?  Or what metal parts were turned into plastic?
 
Fyfee


Re: Machine #

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

I'm pretty confident that Janome will be coming out with a rolling trolley for the 12000, styled much like the Brother one. I saw what I believe to be a prototype at Janome Institute, although I never got a chance to confirm it. I know what you mean about the Bernina. In one of our last classes at the store there was a Bernina. All the Janome people were seated 2 to a table with their machines, mostly 11000s. The Bernina needed an entire table just for herself, and it took 4 trips to the car to get everything in. It was also the loudest machine in the class.

For non-embroidery classes we really like the Janome 3160. It's just 12 pounds, has full computer capability and a good stitch package. Unlike the JEM series, it has a full 7mm width and is full size. It's good for piecing, but not a great choice for free motion quilting large quilts.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, JOAN KOREN <jfkquilts@...> wrote:

I take a class where some of the gals have the new Brother Quattro and while this machine is heavy, it does come with its own rolling trolly for taking to classes. That being said, one still has to lift it into the car and it takes 2 of us! This machine does have lots of bells and whistles....more bang for the $ than the Janome IMHO.
Joan
in TN

PS  Also, last time I was in the Bernina quilt shop, those gals also had that hugh 830 that they were bringing to class, which really amazed me.


Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

Rraffay <rraffay@...>
 

The emboidery arm detaches as an option that will make it lighter too

Reneah


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-------- Original message --------
Subject: [janome12000] Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!
From: Frecia Kelly <fyfeesewingdemon@...>
To: "janome12000@..." <janome12000@...>
CC:


 

If the machine is "a few pounds lighter"....what did they leave out?  Or what metal parts were turned into plastic?
 
Fyfee


Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

Frecia Kelly
 

If the machine is "a few pounds lighter"....what did they leave out?  Or what metal parts were turned into plastic?
 
Fyfee


Machine #

JOAN KOREN <jfkquilts@...>
 

I take a class where some of the gals have the new Brother Quattro and while this machine is heavy, it does come with its own rolling trolly for taking to classes.  That being said, one still has to lift it into the car and it takes 2 of us!  This machine does have lots of bells and whistles....more bang for the $ than the Janome IMHO. 
Joan
in TN
 
PS  Also, last time I was in the Bernina quilt shop, those gals also had that hugh 830 that they were bringing to class, which really amazed me.


 



 


Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

At 38 pounds the 12000 is a few pounds lighter than the 11000, but it's also a tad longer. A rolling case would make it a lot easier to take to class. At Janome Institute the president of Janome America was making the rounds of the classrooms with a rolling case that looked like it might be a prototype for a 12000 combination case. I didn't get a chance to talk to him about it, but if I'm right you'll probably see it available in a few months.

I mentioned earlier that we tested out the top line Brother model. There is no way you would ever want to take that machine anywhere. The case for the embroidery unit alone is bigger than any suitcase I've ever owned, it's almost as heavy as the 12000, and it doesn't have wheels!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Kate <stitchesofmine@...> wrote:

How heavy is this machine? I have trouble toting my 11k to class because of the weight

Kate of WindSong Fibers Farm
Sent from my iPhone


Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

Patricia Ward
 

One of the things that my dealer emphasized was the 30 lbs for just the machine so that you could easily take it to class esp for the new machine instruction classes.  I thought oh.. only 30 lbs?  Doubt with my old arthritic shoulders that I can even lift that.  Then I really laughed when he said that he thinks Janome designed this for the over 50 crowd.. and I thought..' Hmm a mighty strong over 50 crowd".  

I really like my Jem 760 for taking to classes.. that is more my weight class.

Pat in MD


On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Chris Krause <nckrause@...> wrote:
Hi, Kate.  To answer your question, the machine is 37.9 lbs with the
embroidery unit and 30.2 lbs without. However, the embroidery unit has a
carry case, so I imagine you would carry your machine into class then get
the embroidery unit.  I'm guessing the 12000 has not been designed as a
machine that would be frequently taken to classes, but I do know that Janome
makes several lightweight models that are easily transported and very
popular with those who attend classes.

Chris


Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

Chris Krause <nckrause@...>
 

Hi, Kate. To answer your question, the machine is 37.9 lbs with the
embroidery unit and 30.2 lbs without. However, the embroidery unit has a
carry case, so I imagine you would carry your machine into class then get
the embroidery unit. I'm guessing the 12000 has not been designed as a
machine that would be frequently taken to classes, but I do know that Janome
makes several lightweight models that are easily transported and very
popular with those who attend classes.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: janome12000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:janome12000@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kate
Sent: October-22-11 2:40 PM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Re: I LOVE THIS MACHINE!

How heavy is this machine? I have trouble toting my 11k to class because of
the weight

Kate of WindSong Fibers Farm
Sent from my iPhone

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