Date   

Re: bobbin work

Tony Coley
 

Ms Jan
No need to mic the 2 bobbin cases. They are identical except for the tension setting. Some folks just don't relish turning that "little bitty screw" to change tension.
Happy sewing
Tony


On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 3:59 PM, "jan.steiner.mtrainier@..." wrote:
 
I do that regularly on with my mechanical SMs, but they have full metal bobbin cases. After careful inspection of the red and yellow dot cases that came with the machine, I couldn't see any differences but didn't take micrometer measurements of all the parts. These electronic machines could be touchy that way, but I'm sure I'll run into a circumstance where I'll feel absolutely compelled to get out the little screwdriver. You can bet I'll precisely mark the original screw position if I do. At the least, what the screw threads into is not all metal so the threads may prove not to be as durable over time.
Jan in MD 
 



---In janome12000@..., wrote:

The notion of never altering the bobbin tension is silly.   Every time new thread is placed in either top or bottom, the stitch must be examined.  If the stitch does not meet in the proper location, either top or bottom or both need adjustment.
Where the stitch meets depends on the type of project.  For example, seaming, garment or quilting, should meet in the center.  So the top thread should not be visible from the bottom and visa versa.  Embroidery is different, the top should be clearly visible on the bottom.
With all that in mind, it becomes imperative that we know how to make adjustments in the bobbin.  Why should we be of the opinion that we need more than one bobbin case if we know how to adjust.   Why.....because we spend more money if we don't know how to adjust.
Even if you only embroider, different brands, different colors, different types (cotton or poly) impact the necessary tension.
I urge everyone to learn how to adjust both tensions
Sheila Godes  

On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:11 AM, "louannbush@..." <louannbush@...> wrote:

 
I didn't think we were EVER to alter the bobbin tension. If you do, how do you reset the tension to the manufacturer's setting? My 12000 is fairly new and I sure don't want to have to take it back to the dealer already and get chided for changing the tension:)



Re: learning about my new machine

Tony Coley
 

Our shop gives 5 free lessons with any machine purchase in addition to an initial 1 on 1 lesson specific to the new machine. More Basic Sewing than Machine Mastery.
Tony Coley


On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:06 PM, "mel2sew@..." wrote:
 
Well, the machine is unpacked and I have watched the videos (both Janome's and Jim's) but haven't had turned it on yet due to lots of lightening in area.  After watching the videos I realized that my dealer never mentioned any kind of class or training, which I thought odd.  Did any of you get free training with purchase? 



Re: Vertical spool for 12000

Virginia
 

The spool holder does not stand up it is horizontal.
 
 

In a message dated 10/30/2013 4:58:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, judyjanome@... writes:
 

Regarding that vertical spool stand?..what is the little round hole for on the 12000 for if not for a vertical spool stand. 

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:49 AM, <shejmartin1@...> wrote:

 

I have a spool stand leftover from a Pfaff machine that I used to have that fits perfectly into the hole on top of the machine.   It is called the "Pfaff Creative Spool Stand" and I saw it both on Ebay and Amazon. 

 

I don't have the stand that fits on the back of the machine, so I use the Pfaff stand when using embroidery thread; and for all bigger threads.

 



---In janome12000@..., <janome12000@...> wrote:

I would love to have a vertical spool pin for the 12,000 too.  There are a few spools of thread that require a vertical spool pin in order for the thread to come off correctly.  I asked my dealer for one of those a year or so ago, but have not got an answer from Janome about it.


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM, <judyjanome@...> wrote:
 

Has janome come out with a vertical spool pin that fits in the little hole in the lid as of yet?  Judyjanome 



learning about my new machine

mel2sew
 

Well, the machine is unpacked and I have watched the videos (both Janome's and Jim's) but haven't had turned it on yet due to lots of lightening in area.  After watching the videos I realized that my dealer never mentioned any kind of class or training, which I thought odd.  Did any of you get free training with purchase? 


Re: Vertical spool for 12000

gbmko
 

I use the extra horizontal spool pin that comes with the machine, put the thread on, slide a large spool cap on the bottom, tilt it vertically, and that pin fits in the hole, and the thread spins on the spool cap. Barbara Jean

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM, <judyjanome@...> wrote:
 

Has janome come out with a vertical spool pin that fits in the little hole in the lid as of yet?  Judyjanome 



Re: New machine shopping

JOLLYNE TOSTE <jtoste@...>
 

You will love the 3hour demonstration. I just attended one 2weeks ago and it sold me on the 15000 ( wait a weeks or so after and the shop may call you with a great price ($4000 less in my case). Anyway, I am a big janome fan -always thought I would grow up to a Bernini but after my 3160 (small portable model) & the 8900 - a fantastic quilting machine, I think this 15000 will give me all that is necessary for my future of quilting, embroidery & crafting!!
Enjoy the workshop!!
Jollyne
Walnut creek, Ca

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:35 PM, bluebellwrangler@... wrote:

 

My first post here, but I've been reading off and on for a few days.  I am shopping for a new machine.  In my younger years, I made most of my clothes because I am tall and I couldn't buy anything in the stores that had long enough legs and sleeves.  Now I live in jeans and tees, so that is not my first consideration.  I am a lifelong crafter, though I have never pieced or quilted, now I would like to start.  I would like to do other craft sewing and would also like to make clothes for my granddaughters. 

 

The first machine I considered was the Janome 12000, and then the 15000.  I have also been to the Babylock dealer and looked at the Ellisimo II, the Crescendo and the Unity.  My head is spinning with trying to compare features.  I eliminated the Crescendo because I originally thought I wanted to have embroidery capabilities.  The only one I have actually sewn on was the Unity and I liked the feel of it.  The needle threader was impressive, and the screen was fairly easy to read.  At the Janome dealer, they did not have the 12000 in stock so I couldn't sew on it.  They demoed another machine, but the salesperson had so much trouble getting it to cooperate that I immediately marked it off my list.  They will have a 12000 for me to look at in a week or so.  Do any of you have experience with the 12000 and also with the Babylock Unity?  I know this is a Janome group, so I hope I am not overstepping here by asking for a comparison with the BL.  

 

I have a chance on the 9th to see someone from Janome do a half day demo of the 15000.  It is about 3 hours away from me, in a town where my husband is currently working, but I plan on making the trip.  It is probably going to be out of my price range, but it sure looks impressive on paper!

 

Would love to hear your thoughts.   


Re: bobbin work

jan.steiner.mtrainier@...
 

I do that regularly on with my mechanical SMs, but they have full metal bobbin cases. After careful inspection of the red and yellow dot cases that came with the machine, I couldn't see any differences but didn't take micrometer measurements of all the parts. These electronic machines could be touchy that way, but I'm sure I'll run into a circumstance where I'll feel absolutely compelled to get out the little screwdriver. You can bet I'll precisely mark the original screw position if I do. At the least, what the screw threads into is not all metal so the threads may prove not to be as durable over time.

Jan in MD 

 




---In janome12000@..., <janome12000@...> wrote:

The notion of never altering the bobbin tension is silly.   Every time new thread is placed in either top or bottom, the stitch must be examined.  If the stitch does not meet in the proper location, either top or bottom or both need adjustment.
Where the stitch meets depends on the type of project.  For example, seaming, garment or quilting, should meet in the center.  So the top thread should not be visible from the bottom and visa versa.  Embroidery is different, the top should be clearly visible on the bottom.
With all that in mind, it becomes imperative that we know how to make adjustments in the bobbin.  Why should we be of the opinion that we need more than one bobbin case if we know how to adjust.   Why.....because we spend more money if we don't know how to adjust.
Even if you only embroider, different brands, different colors, different types (cotton or poly) impact the necessary tension.
I urge everyone to learn how to adjust both tensions
Sheila Godes  

On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:11 AM, "louannbush@..." <louannbush@...> wrote:

 

I didn't think we were EVER to alter the bobbin tension. If you do, how do you reset the tension to the manufacturer's setting? My 12000 is fairly new and I sure don't want to have to take it back to the dealer already and get chided for changing the tension:)


Re: New machine shopping

Christine Drygas
 

I own the 12000, 15000, and the babylock Ellisimo gold.  I can tell you right now that without question and without hesitation the janome sews soooooooooooo much better than a babylock. I love my Ellisimo for the embroidery. It does an amazing job because of the camera and laser. It does not sew well.  It is fine in the store when you are sewing on small items, but get into thick layers and tight corners and you will see what I am saying.  Between the 15000 and the 12000 it is also a no brainer. The 15000 is just the best machine. The 12000 sews like a dream, but the embroidery is kind of difficult to figure out and the screen is not so friendly.  The 15000 has an automatic threader, the screen is easier to use, and the embroidery is beautiful. It also has micro embroidery on it for really detailed and small items.  So ultimately it will embroider better than the Ellisimo as well.  No camera, but pound for pound - you should really look hard at the 15000.

Christine



Sent from my iPad

On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:35 PM, <bluebellwrangler@...> wrote:

 

My first post here, but I've been reading off and on for a few days.  I am shopping for a new machine.  In my younger years, I made most of my clothes because I am tall and I couldn't buy anything in the stores that had long enough legs and sleeves.  Now I live in jeans and tees, so that is not my first consideration.  I am a lifelong crafter, though I have never pieced or quilted, now I would like to start.  I would like to do other craft sewing and would also like to make clothes for my granddaughters. 

 

The first machine I considered was the Janome 12000, and then the 15000.  I have also been to the Babylock dealer and looked at the Ellisimo II, the Crescendo and the Unity.  My head is spinning with trying to compare features.  I eliminated the Crescendo because I originally thought I wanted to have embroidery capabilities.  The only one I have actually sewn on was the Unity and I liked the feel of it.  The needle threader was impressive, and the screen was fairly easy to read.  At the Janome dealer, they did not have the 12000 in stock so I couldn't sew on it.  They demoed another machine, but the salesperson had so much trouble getting it to cooperate that I immediately marked it off my list.  They will have a 12000 for me to look at in a week or so.  Do any of you have experience with the 12000 and also with the Babylock Unity?  I know this is a Janome group, so I hope I am not overstepping here by asking for a comparison with the BL.  

 

I have a chance on the 9th to see someone from Janome do a half day demo of the 15000.  It is about 3 hours away from me, in a town where my husband is currently working, but I plan on making the trip.  It is probably going to be out of my price range, but it sure looks impressive on paper!

 

Would love to hear your thoughts.   


Re: Unpacking 12000 First Steps?

vicki chrobak
 

I totally agree!!!�������� Small price to pay for peace of mind.
Vicki Jo

On 10/30/2013 12:36 AM, joylaytor@... wrote:
Plug the machine into a battery backup/surge protector.


Re: New machine shopping

Lou Ann
 

I have never owned a Baby Lock so I can't do that comparison, but I can say that I love my MC 12000.  I traded in a Singer that constantly broke thread and needles and I had to embroidery at a very slow speed to avoid those issues.  I haven't broken one single needle in the projects I've completed since I bought the machine this summer and it stitches so fast in comparison to my old machine.  All that being said, I got to see the MC 15000 in action and I fell in love with that machine.  (I think if my 12000 was paid for I might have considered plunking down the money right there and then!)  It has, according to the dealer, even more electronics guiding the robotic movements making this precise machine even more precise.  The larger screen is wonderful and the machine was noticeably quieter even in the classroom setting.  Plus, it comes with the AcuFil which is a program/hoop on my wish list for the 12000.  Probably no help in your decision, is it!  Good Luck.  I don't think you would regret for one minute buying a Janome....which one is the problem!


From: "bluebellwrangler@..."
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:35 PM
Subject: [janome12000] New machine shopping

 
My first post here, but I've been reading off and on for a few days.  I am shopping for a new machine.  In my younger years, I made most of my clothes because I am tall and I couldn't buy anything in the stores that had long enough legs and sleeves.  Now I live in jeans and tees, so that is not my first consideration.  I am a lifelong crafter, though I have never pieced or quilted, now I would like to start.  I would like to do other craft sewing and would also like to make clothes for my granddaughters. 
 
The first machine I considered was the Janome 12000, and then the 15000.  I have also been to the Babylock dealer and looked at the Ellisimo II, the Crescendo and the Unity.  My head is spinning with trying to compare features.  I eliminated the Crescendo because I originally thought I wanted to have embroidery capabilities.  The only one I have actually sewn on was the Unity and I liked the feel of it.  The needle threader was impressive, and the screen was fairly easy to read.  At the Janome dealer, they did not have the 12000 in stock so I couldn't sew on it.  They demoed another machine, but the salesperson had so much trouble getting it to cooperate that I immediately marked it off my list.  They will have a 12000 for me to look at in a week or so.  Do any of you have experience with the 12000 and also with the Babylock Unity?  I know this is a Janome group, so I hope I am not overstepping here by asking for a comparison with the BL.  
 
I have a chance on the 9th to see someone from Janome do a half day demo of the 15000.  It is about 3 hours away from me, in a town where my husband is currently working, but I plan on making the trip.  It is probably going to be out of my price range, but it sure looks impressive on paper!
 
Would love to hear your thoughts.   



Re: Vertical spool for 12000

Judy <judyjanome@...>
 

Regarding that vertical spool stand?..what is the little round hole for on the 12000 for if not for a vertical spool stand. 

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:49 AM, <shejmartin1@...> wrote:

 

I have a spool stand leftover from a Pfaff machine that I used to have that fits perfectly into the hole on top of the machine.   It is called the "Pfaff Creative Spool Stand" and I saw it both on Ebay and Amazon. 

 

I don't have the stand that fits on the back of the machine, so I use the Pfaff stand when using embroidery thread; and for all bigger threads.

 



---In janome12000@..., <janome12000@...> wrote:

I would love to have a vertical spool pin for the 12,000 too.  There are a few spools of thread that require a vertical spool pin in order for the thread to come off correctly.  I asked my dealer for one of those a year or so ago, but have not got an answer from Janome about it.


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM, <judyjanome@...> wrote:
 

Has janome come out with a vertical spool pin that fits in the little hole in the lid as of yet?  Judyjanome 



Re: Vertical spool for 12000

shejmartin1
 

I have a spool stand leftover from a Pfaff machine that I used to have that fits perfectly into the hole on top of the machine.   It is called the "Pfaff Creative Spool Stand" and I saw it both on Ebay and Amazon. 

 

I don't have the stand that fits on the back of the machine, so I use the Pfaff stand when using embroidery thread; and for all bigger threads.

 

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM, <judyjanome@...> wrote:
 

Has janome come out with a vertical spool pin that fits in the little hole in the lid as of yet?  Judyjanome 



Re: Vertical spool for 12000

Sue Sweet
 

The new 15000 has a vertical spool pin with a round base so when the supply of spare parts come in you should be able to get one from your dealer for the 12000.
Sue
 

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:30 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Vertical spool for 12000
 
 

Has janome come out with a vertical spool pin that fits in the little hole in the lid as of yet?  Judyjanome


Re: Unpacking 12000 First Steps?

joylaytor
 

Plug the machine into a battery backup/surge protector.


New machine shopping

bluebellwrangler@...
 

My first post here, but I've been reading off and on for a few days.  I am shopping for a new machine.  In my younger years, I made most of my clothes because I am tall and I couldn't buy anything in the stores that had long enough legs and sleeves.  Now I live in jeans and tees, so that is not my first consideration.  I am a lifelong crafter, though I have never pieced or quilted, now I would like to start.  I would like to do other craft sewing and would also like to make clothes for my granddaughters. 

 

The first machine I considered was the Janome 12000, and then the 15000.  I have also been to the Babylock dealer and looked at the Ellisimo II, the Crescendo and the Unity.  My head is spinning with trying to compare features.  I eliminated the Crescendo because I originally thought I wanted to have embroidery capabilities.  The only one I have actually sewn on was the Unity and I liked the feel of it.  The needle threader was impressive, and the screen was fairly easy to read.  At the Janome dealer, they did not have the 12000 in stock so I couldn't sew on it.  They demoed another machine, but the salesperson had so much trouble getting it to cooperate that I immediately marked it off my list.  They will have a 12000 for me to look at in a week or so.  Do any of you have experience with the 12000 and also with the Babylock Unity?  I know this is a Janome group, so I hope I am not overstepping here by asking for a comparison with the BL.  

 

I have a chance on the 9th to see someone from Janome do a half day demo of the 15000.  It is about 3 hours away from me, in a town where my husband is currently working, but I plan on making the trip.  It is probably going to be out of my price range, but it sure looks impressive on paper!

 

Would love to hear your thoughts.   


Re: Picked up my 12000 today

LINCOLN LUCERO
 

Read your user guide. Make it your bible. You will learn so much if you use it.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android



From: mel2sew@... ;
To: ;
Subject: [janome12000] Picked up my 12000 today
Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2013 10:28:15 PM



Can't wait for hubby to get home to unload it!  So excited to start playing and discovering all that she can do. Other than watch Jim's DVDs, what should I do first?  I am sure I will be asking lots of questions as I work through all the wonderfulness!

 

Melanie




Re: Vertical spool for 12000

Virginia
 

There is a vertical thread stand that you may want to look into.  I have used the thread stand for all of the past 3 Janomes' I have owned and could not be without one.  The Item# for the 5 thread is 85943009 and I paid about $69.00 but it is well worth the investment.  I also own a 2 thread vertical and that # is 858402009.  Hope this helps.
 
Virginia
 
 

In a message dated 10/29/2013 6:45:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maryjweddle@... writes:
 

I would love to have a vertical spool pin for the 12,000 too.  There are a few spools of thread that require a vertical spool pin in order for the thread to come off correctly.  I asked my dealer for one of those a year or so ago, but have not got an answer from Janome about it.


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM, <judyjanome@...> wrote:
 

Has janome come out with a vertical spool pin that fits in the little hole in the lid as of yet?  Judyjanome 



Picked up my 12000 today

mel2sew
 

Can't wait for hubby to get home to unload it!  So excited to start playing and discovering all that she can do. Other than watch Jim's DVDs, what should I do first?  I am sure I will be asking lots of questions as I work through all the wonderfulness!

 

Melanie


Re: Vertical spool for 12000

Mary Jane Weddle <maryjweddle@...>
 

I would love to have a vertical spool pin for the 12,000 too.  There are a few spools of thread that require a vertical spool pin in order for the thread to come off correctly.  I asked my dealer for one of those a year or so ago, but have not got an answer from Janome about it.


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:00 PM, <judyjanome@...> wrote:
 

Has janome come out with a vertical spool pin that fits in the little hole in the lid as of yet?  Judyjanome 



Vertical spool for 12000

judyjanome@...
 

Has janome come out with a vertical spool pin that fits in the little hole in the lid as of yet?  Judyjanome