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Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroidery?

m1955seamstress
 

Thanks, that's what I think too! I was having tension problems with my new 12000, but seems fine now.


From: Sherry Martin ;
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Subject: [janome12000] Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroidery?
Sent: Thu, Dec 8, 2011 4:03:46 AM

 

I looked at the several little applique projects I did that I talked about in my earlier post (What I Love About Embroidery on this machine).

The ones I did without the yellow bobbin and without straight stitch plate had bobbin thread showing on both the top and the bottom. On the bottom all I could see was bobbin thread.

The ones I did with yellow bobbin and straight stitch plate looked really really good on top and on the bottom mostly just top thread showed with just a little bobbin thread.

Since this was applique these were heavy satin stitches only.

As long as it is looking good on top and there is no puckering, I'm not really concerned how it is looking on the bottom.

--- In janome12000@..., "m1955seamstress" wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I should already know the answer to this question, but I was having trouble with the tension on my 12000. I just got it back and think it is ok now. However, I was told by another 12000 owner that she never has any top thread showing on the underside of her embroidery.
>
> I was told by my dealer and also a lady who works for him on two separate occasions that there will be some of the top thread pulled to the underside.
>
> The top side looks good and no bobbin thread showing.
>
> If anyone can post pictures of what is normal, I'd appreciate it. I looked back at some of my embroidery I did with my 11000 and it too showed some top thread pulled to the underside. Perhaps I was doing something wrong even with my 11000, but looks good on the top side on those too!
>
> Thanks for any advice you can supply!
>
> Marla
>


THE TREE...Where do you buy the pattern?

seamgood <seamgood@...>
 

Good morning everyone!
Where do you go to buy the tree pattern?
Donna, it is beautiful. Nice job.
Keep your fingers crossed...I have a lady coming over to hopefully buy my 11000 this weekend. Then I can get my new 12000! Oh, I can hardly sleep with all the excitement going on in my head.
Happy sewing!
Gloria in MA


Re: Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions

cynthiarunswithscissors <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks for the data for this embroidery pattern.I purchased this and will attempt to make it, not sure if I'll use my 12000 (Mercury) or MB4 (Tron). BTW - I am still also waiting for my Digitizer upgrade.

Cynthia


keeping bobbin cases straight

songnbird
 

To help me remember which bobbin case is which, I use a sharpie marker and write in the bottom of each bobbin case. EMB in the case with the yellow dot and REG in the other one. That way I don't have to refer to the manual or depend on my memory. After a while the marks need refreshing, but not too often.
Linda near Buffalo, NY


Re: I finished stitching out The Tree -- 3 things I forgot to mention

Donna Morton
 

 
 
Make sure you use the magnets on the SQ23 and GR hoops!!  When stitching a section of the tree in the SQ23 hoop, move it to the upper right.  There are two pictures in the group photo’s in my Album called Donna M.
 
Make sure you update your machine if you haven’t.  Version 1.01 is available from this link:
 
 
Donna M
Canada


Re: I finished stitching out The Tree

Donna Morton
 

Firstly, I do not find that the design is overly dense at all. The digitizer did a fine job. The density of the design, on the satin stitch edges is not the problem. In my case I’m pretty sure I could have prevented the poorer tension.
 
I’m pretty happy with my results but yes, I did have poor tension on the back in a couple of spots.  The first one on the outer edge of Tree 5 and the second two on part 9.  These can be overcome.
 
The design that is being added to the hoop must stay flat – especially on the outer edges where it joins the one in the hoop!  If it pops up a little then the sensor foot lifts a little when it really doesn’t need to, thinking there is a really thick area to stitch through when there isn’t and you get the poorer tension on the back.  Mine was very minor in 3 places.  No one else will ever notice it.  In both cases I turned away from the machine for a second or two when I should have stayed and watched what was going on.
 
Stabilizer slippage in the hoop could still add to the poor tension. In an effort to avoid this I rotated the designs so they would fit in the smallest hoop possible.  Some will fit in the SQ14 and the others will fit in the SQ23. I lined my inner hoops with shelf matting. The stabilizer must be good and taut and it must stay very taut, especially because the SQ23 is rather large for the task at hand.
 
The designs must be trimmed closely (some I trimmed a little too close and the satin is pulling away – a chance to fix with a decorative stitch!) and they must not overlap when putting them together.
 
Hope this helps.  It really is a nice project.  I enjoyed stitching it out.  By the way if you only have 12 inch wide aqua magic like I had on hand, invest in some water soluble thread.  Use it in the bobbin and on top to stitch a couple of lengths together to make wider stabilizer for the hoop.
 
I’m teaching for the next three days so will not have time to hang out on the group. 
 
Bye for now.
Donna M
Canada


Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroidery?

Sherry Martin
 

I looked at the several little applique projects I did that I talked about in my earlier post (What I Love About Embroidery on this machine).

The ones I did without the yellow bobbin and without straight stitch plate had bobbin thread showing on both the top and the bottom. On the bottom all I could see was bobbin thread.

The ones I did with yellow bobbin and straight stitch plate looked really really good on top and on the bottom mostly just top thread showed with just a little bobbin thread.

Since this was applique these were heavy satin stitches only.

As long as it is looking good on top and there is no puckering, I'm not really concerned how it is looking on the bottom.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "m1955seamstress" <m1955seamstress@...> wrote:

Hi,
I should already know the answer to this question, but I was having trouble with the tension on my 12000. I just got it back and think it is ok now. However, I was told by another 12000 owner that she never has any top thread showing on the underside of her embroidery.

I was told by my dealer and also a lady who works for him on two separate occasions that there will be some of the top thread pulled to the underside.

The top side looks good and no bobbin thread showing.

If anyone can post pictures of what is normal, I'd appreciate it. I looked back at some of my embroidery I did with my 11000 and it too showed some top thread pulled to the underside. Perhaps I was doing something wrong even with my 11000, but looks good on the top side on those too!

Thanks for any advice you can supply!

Marla


Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroidery?

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

A simple "rule of thumb" is 1/3 - 1/3 - 1/3 of top - bobbin - top thread. If you are not using Janome bobbin thread you should use the yellow dot case and you should get the 'thirds' result.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "m1955seamstress" <m1955seamstress@...> wrote:

Hi,
I should already know the answer to this question, but I was having trouble with the tension on my 12000. I just got it back and think it is ok now. However, I was told by another 12000 owner that she never has any top thread showing on the underside of her embroidery.

I was told by my dealer and also a lady who works for him on two separate occasions that there will be some of the top thread pulled to the underside.

The top side looks good and no bobbin thread showing.

If anyone can post pictures of what is normal, I'd appreciate it. I looked back at some of my embroidery I did with my 11000 and it too showed some top thread pulled to the underside. Perhaps I was doing something wrong even with my 11000, but looks good on the top side on those too!

Thanks for any advice you can supply!

Marla


Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroid...

m1955seamstress
 

Oh thank you, Ginger.  No, I'm sorry, guess I didn't explain well enough.  No loops.  Just showing some on the underside.  Now I did have a tension problem though!  The dealer had to take the top of the case off and turn a screw to adjust the upper tension plate.  He also adjusted the screw on the bobbin case some.  But mostly it was the upper tension, I guess. 
 
I found another site this evening on machine embroidery that looked like it had some good advice.  I just need to study up more on hooping and stablizers, etc. to make sure I get a good stitchout from my new 12000! :)
 
Marla

From: "Fmjfrazier@..."
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroid...

 
Yes absolutely.  When you were explaining it the past few days I thought you meant there were loops and that is why I was concerned.
 
You are fine.  Trust me, worry no more.  I agree it did show on our 11,000 but not as much.  It is probably because the yellow dot bobbin case we use makes it tighter, which is good.
 
 It allows you to not have to use the same color thread on the top and bottom if we do not want to.
 
Take Care,
 
ginger
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/7/2011 8:00:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, m1955seamstress@... writes:
 
On the test piece we did at my dealer's store today with my machine there was about 1/3 or so of the backside showing the top thread and the rest was the bobbin thread.  I was supposed to take my test piece home, but I must have left it at the store.  So no pictures to post unless I get another test done soon.
 
Is this "normal"?  The top looked good.
 
Thanks,
Marla

From: "Fmjfrazier@..."
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroid...

 
In the hoop embroidery you use the yellow dot.  It has a little tighter tension which is good.
 
You used the right one.
 
Virginia
 
In a message dated 12/7/2011 7:44:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyjanome@... writes:
 
I did a in the machine daisy design last night in the 5 by 5 hoop. It stitched out beautifully. There was absolutely no puckers at all and the machine is so quiet. However there was very little bobbin thread showing on the back just the top thread, and there was no bobbin thread on the top. I used Janome bobbin thread and the single hole needle plate. Bobbin case was the yellow dot case which I believe should have been the other one but I am having a hard time remembering that part. Judy

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Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroid...

Virginia
 

Yes absolutely.  When you were explaining it the past few days I thought you meant there were loops and that is why I was concerned.
 
You are fine.  Trust me, worry no more.  I agree it did show on our 11,000 but not as much.  It is probably because the yellow dot bobbin case we use makes it tighter, which is good.
 
 It allows you to not have to use the same color thread on the top and bottom if we do not want to.
 
Take Care,
 
ginger
 
 
 

In a message dated 12/7/2011 8:00:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, m1955seamstress@... writes:
 

On the test piece we did at my dealer's store today with my machine there was about 1/3 or so of the backside showing the top thread and the rest was the bobbin thread.  I was supposed to take my test piece home, but I must have left it at the store.  So no pictures to post unless I get another test done soon.
 
Is this "normal"?  The top looked good.
 
Thanks,
Marla

From: "Fmjfrazier@..."
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroid...

 
In the hoop embroidery you use the yellow dot.  It has a little tighter tension which is good.
 
You used the right one.
 
Virginia
 
In a message dated 12/7/2011 7:44:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyjanome@... writes:
 
I did a in the machine daisy design last night in the 5 by 5 hoop. It stitched out beautifully. There was absolutely no puckers at all and the machine is so quiet. However there was very little bobbin thread showing on the back just the top thread, and there was no bobbin thread on the top. I used Janome bobbin thread and the single hole needle plate. Bobbin case was the yellow dot case which I believe should have been the other one but I am having a hard time remembering that part. Judy

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Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroid...

m1955seamstress
 

On the test piece we did at my dealer's store today with my machine there was about 1/3 or so of the backside showing the top thread and the rest was the bobbin thread.  I was supposed to take my test piece home, but I must have left it at the store.  So no pictures to post unless I get another test done soon.
 
Is this "normal"?  The top looked good.
 
Thanks,
Marla

From: "Fmjfrazier@..."
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroid...

 
In the hoop embroidery you use the yellow dot.  It has a little tighter tension which is good.
 
You used the right one.
 
Virginia
 
In a message dated 12/7/2011 7:44:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyjanome@... writes:
 
I did a in the machine daisy design last night in the 5 by 5 hoop. It stitched out beautifully. There was absolutely no puckers at all and the machine is so quiet. However there was very little bobbin thread showing on the back just the top thread, and there was no bobbin thread on the top. I used Janome bobbin thread and the single hole needle plate. Bobbin case was the yellow dot case which I believe should have been the other one but I am having a hard time remembering that part. Judy

Sent from my iPhone



Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroid...

Virginia
 

In the hoop embroidery you use the yellow dot.  It has a little tighter tension which is good.
 
You used the right one.
 
Virginia
 

In a message dated 12/7/2011 7:44:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, judyjanome@... writes:
 

I did a in the machine daisy design last night in the 5 by 5 hoop. It stitched out beautifully. There was absolutely no puckers at all and the machine is so quiet. However there was very little bobbin thread showing on the back just the top thread, and there was no bobbin thread on the top. I used Janome bobbin thread and the single hole needle plate. Bobbin case was the yellow dot case which I believe should have been the other one but I am having a hard time remembering that part. Judy

Sent from my iPhone


Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroidery?

Judy <judyjanome@...>
 

I did a in the machine daisy design last night in the 5 by 5 hoop. It stitched out beautifully. There was absolutely no puckers at all and the machine is so quiet. However there was very little bobbin thread showing on the back just the top thread, and there was no bobbin thread on the top. I used Janome bobbin thread and the single hole needle plate. Bobbin case was the yellow dot case which I believe should have been the other one but I am having a hard time remembering that part. Judy

Sent from my iPhone


How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroidery?

m1955seamstress
 

Hi,
I should already know the answer to this question, but I was having trouble with the tension on my 12000. I just got it back and think it is ok now. However, I was told by another 12000 owner that she never has any top thread showing on the underside of her embroidery.

I was told by my dealer and also a lady who works for him on two separate occasions that there will be some of the top thread pulled to the underside.

The top side looks good and no bobbin thread showing.

If anyone can post pictures of what is normal, I'd appreciate it. I looked back at some of my embroidery I did with my 11000 and it too showed some top thread pulled to the underside. Perhaps I was doing something wrong even with my 11000, but looks good on the top side on those too!

Thanks for any advice you can supply!

Marla


Embroidery Feature I Love

Sherry Martin
 

For the 1st time today, I got to do some embroidery on my new machine. One of my favorite things to do is embroidery applique and I found a feature that I LOVE. When you press the icon that looks like a hoop in the embroidery mode, it will bring the hoop towards you so you can use a mini-iron to press down applique pieces, and also so you can trim pieces after they have been sewn with the anchor stitches. On my machine before I always had to take the whole hoop off of the machine press and/or trim and put the hoop back on sometimes many times even the applique had a lot of pieces.

Also when I 1st started I didn't put in the straight stitch plate or change the bobbin holder(since I was using Janome bobbin thread) and a lot of the white bobbin thread was showing on the top. I changed to the straight stitch plate, changed the bobbin holder, and lowered the speed from 1000 to 800 and absolutely no thread showed thru even on dark colors. Don't know if I really needed to lower the speed but it was going so fast I couldn't tell what the stitches looked like as it went along which was bothering me a little.

One thing I don't like is how much fabric it seems like you have to waste when using the 5 1/2 x 5 1/2 hoop because of the oblong design. However since I was doing fairly small squares to become part of a larger quilted wall hanging, I hooped some sticky stabilizer and pressed the squares of fabric on it instead of hooping the fabric, and then I just kept pulling off my squares when I finished and put just enough sticky stabilizer to cover the hole from pulling the squares off. I could do a lot of squares without needing to hoop any more stabilizer.


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Sherry Martin
 

Isn't it funny what we do for our daughters. I had a quilt in my family room that I took to my daughter's house recently for an extra blanket in the car; and somehow it ended up staying at her house permanently. She insisted that it matched the colors in her sofa exactly.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Judy <judyjanome@...> wrote:

Thank you Donna I really do appreciate it. I have to make another tree as one got a home at my dogs vet today and my daughter in Florida saw the satin one and asked for it. Again thanks for all your help. Judy

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:32 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

Okay, here I go! I’ll report back later today. I have a theory but like all theories, I have to test it out.

Donna M
Canada

From: Maria Boyle
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [janome12000] The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?


Hi Donna,

The problem started at tree 4, that would be part 5. Part one is the trunk.




María

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle! I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000. As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?

Donna M
Canada


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Judy <judyjanome@...>
 

Thank you Donna I really do appreciate it. I have to make another tree as one got a home at my dogs vet today and my daughter in Florida saw the satin one and asked for it.  Again thanks for all your help. Judy

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:32 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

 

Okay, here I go!  I’ll report back later today.  I have a theory but like all theories, I have to test it out.
 
Donna M
Canada
 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?
 
 

Hi Donna,
 
     The problem started at tree 4,  that would be part 5.  Part one is the trunk.

 
 
 
María

Sent from my iPad
 

On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle!  I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000.  As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?
 
Donna M
Canada
 


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Maria Boyle
 

Cool... Cant wait.  :)




María

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:32 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

Okay, here I go!  I’ll report back later today.  I have a theory but like all theories, I have to test it out.
 
Donna M
Canada
 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?
 
 

Hi Donna,
 
     The problem started at tree 4,  that would be part 5.  Part one is the trunk.

 
 
 
María

Sent from my iPad
 

On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle!  I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000.  As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?
 
Donna M
Canada
 


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Donna Morton
 

Okay, here I go!  I’ll report back later today.  I have a theory but like all theories, I have to test it out.
 
Donna M
Canada
 

Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?
 
 

Hi Donna,
 
     The problem started at tree 4,  that would be part 5.  Part one is the trunk.

 
 
 
María

Sent from my iPad
 

On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle!  I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000.  As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?
 
Donna M
Canada
 


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Maria Boyle
 

Hi Donna,

     The problem started at tree 4,  that would be part 5.  Part one is the trunk.




María

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle!  I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000.  As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?
 
Donna M
Canada