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Re: How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroidery?

Judy <judyjanome@...>
 

I did a in the machine daisy design last night in the 5 by 5 hoop. It stitched out beautifully. There was absolutely no puckers at all and the machine is so quiet. However there was very little bobbin thread showing on the back just the top thread, and there was no bobbin thread on the top. I used Janome bobbin thread and the single hole needle plate. Bobbin case was the yellow dot case which I believe should have been the other one but I am having a hard time remembering that part. Judy

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How Much Top Thread Should Show on Underside of Embroidery?

m1955seamstress
 

Hi,
I should already know the answer to this question, but I was having trouble with the tension on my 12000. I just got it back and think it is ok now. However, I was told by another 12000 owner that she never has any top thread showing on the underside of her embroidery.

I was told by my dealer and also a lady who works for him on two separate occasions that there will be some of the top thread pulled to the underside.

The top side looks good and no bobbin thread showing.

If anyone can post pictures of what is normal, I'd appreciate it. I looked back at some of my embroidery I did with my 11000 and it too showed some top thread pulled to the underside. Perhaps I was doing something wrong even with my 11000, but looks good on the top side on those too!

Thanks for any advice you can supply!

Marla


Embroidery Feature I Love

Sherry Martin
 

For the 1st time today, I got to do some embroidery on my new machine. One of my favorite things to do is embroidery applique and I found a feature that I LOVE. When you press the icon that looks like a hoop in the embroidery mode, it will bring the hoop towards you so you can use a mini-iron to press down applique pieces, and also so you can trim pieces after they have been sewn with the anchor stitches. On my machine before I always had to take the whole hoop off of the machine press and/or trim and put the hoop back on sometimes many times even the applique had a lot of pieces.

Also when I 1st started I didn't put in the straight stitch plate or change the bobbin holder(since I was using Janome bobbin thread) and a lot of the white bobbin thread was showing on the top. I changed to the straight stitch plate, changed the bobbin holder, and lowered the speed from 1000 to 800 and absolutely no thread showed thru even on dark colors. Don't know if I really needed to lower the speed but it was going so fast I couldn't tell what the stitches looked like as it went along which was bothering me a little.

One thing I don't like is how much fabric it seems like you have to waste when using the 5 1/2 x 5 1/2 hoop because of the oblong design. However since I was doing fairly small squares to become part of a larger quilted wall hanging, I hooped some sticky stabilizer and pressed the squares of fabric on it instead of hooping the fabric, and then I just kept pulling off my squares when I finished and put just enough sticky stabilizer to cover the hole from pulling the squares off. I could do a lot of squares without needing to hoop any more stabilizer.


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Sherry Martin
 

Isn't it funny what we do for our daughters. I had a quilt in my family room that I took to my daughter's house recently for an extra blanket in the car; and somehow it ended up staying at her house permanently. She insisted that it matched the colors in her sofa exactly.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Judy <judyjanome@...> wrote:

Thank you Donna I really do appreciate it. I have to make another tree as one got a home at my dogs vet today and my daughter in Florida saw the satin one and asked for it. Again thanks for all your help. Judy

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:32 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

Okay, here I go! I’ll report back later today. I have a theory but like all theories, I have to test it out.

Donna M
Canada

From: Maria Boyle
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [janome12000] The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?


Hi Donna,

The problem started at tree 4, that would be part 5. Part one is the trunk.




María

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle! I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000. As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?

Donna M
Canada


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Judy <judyjanome@...>
 

Thank you Donna I really do appreciate it. I have to make another tree as one got a home at my dogs vet today and my daughter in Florida saw the satin one and asked for it.  Again thanks for all your help. Judy

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:32 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

 

Okay, here I go!  I’ll report back later today.  I have a theory but like all theories, I have to test it out.
 
Donna M
Canada
 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?
 
 

Hi Donna,
 
     The problem started at tree 4,  that would be part 5.  Part one is the trunk.

 
 
 
María

Sent from my iPad
 

On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle!  I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000.  As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?
 
Donna M
Canada
 


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Maria Boyle
 

Cool... Cant wait.  :)




María

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 4:32 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

Okay, here I go!  I’ll report back later today.  I have a theory but like all theories, I have to test it out.
 
Donna M
Canada
 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?
 
 

Hi Donna,
 
     The problem started at tree 4,  that would be part 5.  Part one is the trunk.

 
 
 
María

Sent from my iPad
 

On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle!  I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000.  As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?
 
Donna M
Canada
 


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Donna Morton
 

Okay, here I go!  I’ll report back later today.  I have a theory but like all theories, I have to test it out.
 
Donna M
Canada
 

Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?
 
 

Hi Donna,
 
     The problem started at tree 4,  that would be part 5.  Part one is the trunk.

 
 
 
María

Sent from my iPad
 

On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle!  I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000.  As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?
 
Donna M
Canada
 


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Maria Boyle
 

Hi Donna,

     The problem started at tree 4,  that would be part 5.  Part one is the trunk.




María

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

I love a puzzle!  I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000.  As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?
 
Donna M
Canada


Re: The Tree Stitchout -- which part caused the problem?

Donna Morton
 

I love a puzzle!  I have bought the design that seems to have some problems and would like to test it out on my 12000.  As the design is in several parts, which part had the problem?
 
Donna M
Canada


Re: Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions

Maria Boyle
 

Thank you so much for that tip. It's making since to me now. I am currently embroidering a design that also has some heaving stitching. But this design requires 2 layers of cut away. It is stitching out beautifully. No problems with it at all. :)

I am learning so much.




María

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On Dec 7, 2011, at 12:51 PM, "janetpiekarski" <jsm1144@gmail.com> wrote:

When stitching out a heavy stitch count design, the better stabilizer is either Fabri-Solvy or Floriani fabric water soluble. The "plastic" types get pierced and perforate and collapse. the fabric type do not (or do it MUCH less), they dissolve just as easily.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

Water soluble stabilizer = WSS

From: Maria Boyle
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:18 AM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions



Hello Donna,

I am having the same problem as Judy and I am using the straight stitch plate. What is WSS?

Thanks





María


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On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:11 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:


Stitching on WSS seems to be the common denominator for stitching problems. I’ve uploaded a pdf to the group files called Hoop Assit(1). It has pictures showing how to line an inner hoop with non-skid matting. Our new, large hoops are wonderful but they may not be keeping WSS under good tension during the stitch out so I would recommend you try this.

The second thing I would recommend is that you use the straight stitch plate as described on page 100 of the manual for all embroidery.

If you are using the same thread top and bottom then the manual recommends you use the standard bobbin case (p. 101 â€" last NOTE).

The other issue that has been a problem is owners selecting the Janome Acrylic thread in the SET menu. The tension for this thread is different than the other thread brands due to the different characteristics of this acrylic 50 wt thread. Do not select this thread if you are using 40 wt rayon or polyester embroidery threads. This stitch out will be terrible.

Donna M
Canada


From: judyjanome
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:08 AM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Question regarding stitch out


I have the new Janome 12000. I did own the 11000 when it first came out. So I am familar with the quaility of this company. I also own the Viking Diamond. Recently when a friend and I took a road trip we both purchased the 12000. Our first project was a in the hoop christmas tree. We both used WSS (aqua magic), Robinson Anton thread both in the needle and bobbin case. She used the bobbin with the yellow dot, I FORGOT and used the regular case. We started out with the janome red needle and stitched to the blue. The outcome for both of us was less that perfect as we both had the thread sucked down into the bobbin case while doing the satin stitches. After cleaning the bobbin case out it would work for some time only to have the same thing happen again. Also forgot to mention we used the batting which was recommended for the project. I also stitched this out on my other machine without the thread being pulled to the bobbin case. My dealer is 6 hours away and I have been trying to call Janome but they are in training today. I love this machine and I am sure the both of my machines will compliment each other. I am going to post pictures. They look beautiful but I just want to figure out why this is happening. Judy



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Re: Memory Stick

Virginia
 

I was never able to use anything but a 2gb in my 11,000SE maybe it has changed.


Re: Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions

janetpiekarski
 

When stitching out a heavy stitch count design, the better stabilizer is either Fabri-Solvy or Floriani fabric water soluble. The "plastic" types get pierced and perforate and collapse. the fabric type do not (or do it MUCH less), they dissolve just as easily.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

Water soluble stabilizer = WSS

From: Maria Boyle
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:18 AM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions



Hello Donna,

I am having the same problem as Judy and I am using the straight stitch plate. What is WSS?

Thanks





María


Sent from my iPad


On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:11 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:


Stitching on WSS seems to be the common denominator for stitching problems. I’ve uploaded a pdf to the group files called Hoop Assit(1). It has pictures showing how to line an inner hoop with non-skid matting. Our new, large hoops are wonderful but they may not be keeping WSS under good tension during the stitch out so I would recommend you try this.

The second thing I would recommend is that you use the straight stitch plate as described on page 100 of the manual for all embroidery.

If you are using the same thread top and bottom then the manual recommends you use the standard bobbin case (p. 101 â€" last NOTE).

The other issue that has been a problem is owners selecting the Janome Acrylic thread in the SET menu. The tension for this thread is different than the other thread brands due to the different characteristics of this acrylic 50 wt thread. Do not select this thread if you are using 40 wt rayon or polyester embroidery threads. This stitch out will be terrible.

Donna M
Canada


From: judyjanome
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:08 AM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Question regarding stitch out


I have the new Janome 12000. I did own the 11000 when it first came out. So I am familar with the quaility of this company. I also own the Viking Diamond. Recently when a friend and I took a road trip we both purchased the 12000. Our first project was a in the hoop christmas tree. We both used WSS (aqua magic), Robinson Anton thread both in the needle and bobbin case. She used the bobbin with the yellow dot, I FORGOT and used the regular case. We started out with the janome red needle and stitched to the blue. The outcome for both of us was less that perfect as we both had the thread sucked down into the bobbin case while doing the satin stitches. After cleaning the bobbin case out it would work for some time only to have the same thing happen again. Also forgot to mention we used the batting which was recommended for the project. I also stitched this out on my other machine without the thread being pulled to the bobbin case. My dealer is 6 hours away and I have been trying to call Janome but they are in training today. I love this machine and I am sure the both of my machines will compliment each other. I am going to post pictures. They look beautiful but I just want to figure out why this is happening. Judy


Re: Memory Stick

Donna Morton
 

The maximum size USB stick is “unlimited”.  We were told this in a Janome Canada meeting directly by the engineer who worked on this on the 12000. 
 
Donna M
Canada
 

Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:38 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Memory Stick
 
 

Does anyone know what the maximum size memory stick you can use for the 12000 is? I was told once that the maximum size for the 11000 was 4mb which is pretty small; I never verified if this was actually true or not.


Memory Stick

Sherry Martin
 

Does anyone know what the maximum size memory stick you can use for the 12000 is? I was told once that the maximum size for the 11000 was 4mb which is pretty small; I never verified if this was actually true or not.


Re: Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions

Anna C Simon <rbs11739@...>
 

This lady Vicki has the 11000 and she did this Christmas Tree. She did not say that she had any trouble doing this design.
 
Here is her blog address to the sewout.
 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 12/7/2011 8:46:58 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions
 
 

For those using this design, do you think it would work on the 11000? I have the Macro hoop which would be within the frame size suggested and it comes in the jef format. Just don't know if things would work out for the 2 parts of the Macro hoop. I do have Digipro MB and Santa is bringing the upgrade to MBX. And speaking of Santa, the Santa design on that website is also cute, and the snowman. I would like to get all three if I knew they would work.

Thanks,

Lynn

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Re: Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions

Gmail ljstitcher <ljstitcher@...>
 

For those using this design, do you think it would work on the 11000? I have the Macro hoop which would be within the frame size suggested and it comes in the jef format. Just don't know if things would work out for the 2 parts of the Macro hoop. I do have Digipro MB and Santa is bringing the upgrade to MBX. And speaking of Santa, the Santa design on that website is also cute, and the snowman. I would like to get all three if I knew they would work.

Thanks,

Lynn



Sent from my iPad


Re: Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions

Liz
 

I read on another group that someone was having problems with this design of the xmas tree also, it is very thick in some places to stitch through. I don't think it is a problem with the 12000 at all. Liz


Re: FootBook

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Right now there is no update to get. To see when updates are available watch the App Store icon. It will show a red circle when there are updates, along with the number of updates available. Open the App Store and tofu the Updates icon to download them for free.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Cheryl" <capaul@...> wrote:

Hi Jim,

How do we get the update. I have the one from before the 12000.

Cheryl

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@> wrote:

No need to wait Liz, app updates are always free.

Thanks so much!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Liz" <dse7sew@> wrote:

Jim, I was going to buy the FootBook App for my i Pad but should I wait if you are going to renew it for the 12000 Machine? or will it be a update. Thanks Liz


Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

m1955seamstress
 

Hi,
My dealer called me tonight to let me know he has my 12000 fixed! :)
 
Evidently the problem was the "tension plates" for the upper thread.  A lady who works for him changed out the bobbin case yesterday while I was there.  It seemed to help somewhat; but the stitching was still intermittently pulling the top thread to the bottom and the bobbin thread to the top all in one stitching.  Some stitches were fine too!
 
My dealer says now everything looks good for both ordinary sewing and embroidery. Hopefully, I can pick my machine up tomorrow. 
 
Very happy to get some good news on my machine!
 
Thanks everyone for your advice on tension issues.
 
Marla

From: Jim_Stutsman
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

 
That mark is just a dab of material used to lock the screw in place. You can still turn it, but they put that on there as a preventative to keep the screw from turning from vibration. It's kind of a belt+suspenders thing, but that's how Janome rolls.

--- In janome12000@..., vicki chrobak wrote:
>
> Jim I have the red arrow but also a tiny red "mark " just above tension
> screw on top.
>
> --
> Vicki Jo
>




Re: Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions

Judy Ziegler <judyjanome@...>
 

I want to thank everyone with there suggestions expecially you Donna.  I did have the right bobbin case in as well as Robinson Anton thread selected in settings.  The satin stitches are very heavy and probably not a good choice for a first project.  I am doing a built in design tonight and it is stitching out very nice.  I also thought the suggestion with the double sided tape is going to be tried next time I do a tree.  Sometimes I think it is a combination of issues that create problems in embroidery.  Many thanks Judyjanome

From: Donna Morton
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions

 
Water soluble stabilizer = WSS
 
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Question regarding stitch out -- Some suggestions
 
 
Hello Donna,
 
     I am having the same problem as Judy and I am using the straight stitch plate.  What is WSS?
 
Thanks

 
 
 
María

Sent from my iPad
 

On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:11 PM, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

Stitching on WSS seems to be the common denominator for stitching problems.  I’ve uploaded a pdf to the group files called Hoop Assit(1).  It has pictures showing how to line an inner hoop with non-skid matting.  Our new, large hoops are wonderful but they may not be keeping WSS under good tension during the stitch out so I would recommend you try this.
 
The second thing I would recommend is that you use the straight stitch plate as described on page 100 of the manual for all embroidery. 
 
If you are using the same thread top and bottom then the manual recommends you use the standard bobbin case (p. 101 – last NOTE).
 
The other issue that has been a problem is owners selecting the Janome Acrylic thread in the SET menu.  The tension for this thread is different than the other thread brands due to the different characteristics of this acrylic 50 wt thread.  Do not select this thread if you are using 40 wt rayon or polyester embroidery threads.  This stitch out will be terrible.
 
Donna M
Canada
 
 
From: judyjanome
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:08 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Question regarding stitch out
 
 
I have the new Janome 12000. I did own the 11000 when it first came out. So I am familar with the quaility of this company. I also own the Viking Diamond. Recently when a friend and I took a road trip we both purchased the 12000. Our first project was a in the hoop christmas tree. We both used WSS (aqua magic), Robinson Anton thread both in the needle and bobbin case. She used the bobbin with the yellow dot, I FORGOT and used the regular case. We started out with the janome red needle and stitched to the blue. The outcome for both of us was less that perfect as we both had the thread sucked down into the bobbin case while doing the satin stitches. After cleaning the bobbin case out it would work for some time only to have the same thing happen again. Also forgot to mention we used the batting which was recommended for the project. I also stitched this out on my other machine without the thread being pulled to the bobbin case. My dealer is 6 hours away and I have been trying to call Janome but they are in training today. I love this machine and I am sure the both of my machines will compliment each other. I am going to post pictures. They look beautiful but I just want to figure out why this is happening. Judy