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Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

Donna Morton
 

Whoops!!  Sorry, should have read to the bottom of my e-mails before I butted in.  Good luck with this.
 
Donna M
Canada
 

Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [janome12000] Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing
 
 

You really should be using the bobbin case with the red dot for ordinary sewing.  The book is quite clear on this.  Change the bobbin case and I’m sure the problem will be solved.
 
Donna M
Canada
 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing
 
 

Hi,
I'm brand new to this forum. I just upgraded my 11000 SE to the 12000 and got my new machine about a week and a half ago. I'm having problems with the tension on my machine just doing normal ordinary sewing! I have the bobbin case without the yellow dot in my machine. I have changed needles, rechecked the threading of the machine several times now!

I'm sure I should not have to adjust the tension settings just to do even cotton or denim, but there are small loops on the bottom of the fabric.

It's probably me, but I called my dealer and he tried to zig zag with his machine in the store and had to adjust the tension!

He was going to contact Janome and get back with me next week.

Has anyone else had problems or am I doing something wrong here? I've been using Janome machines for at least 15 years now and have sewn for over 40 years!

Thanks for any advice you can give. I'm thinking I may have to take my machine back to the dealer to figure out the problem.

Thanks,
Marla


Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

Donna Morton
 

You really should be using the bobbin case with the red dot for ordinary sewing.  The book is quite clear on this.  Change the bobbin case and I’m sure the problem will be solved.
 
Donna M
Canada
 

Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing
 
 

Hi,
I'm brand new to this forum. I just upgraded my 11000 SE to the 12000 and got my new machine about a week and a half ago. I'm having problems with the tension on my machine just doing normal ordinary sewing! I have the bobbin case without the yellow dot in my machine. I have changed needles, rechecked the threading of the machine several times now!

I'm sure I should not have to adjust the tension settings just to do even cotton or denim, but there are small loops on the bottom of the fabric.

It's probably me, but I called my dealer and he tried to zig zag with his machine in the store and had to adjust the tension!

He was going to contact Janome and get back with me next week.

Has anyone else had problems or am I doing something wrong here? I've been using Janome machines for at least 15 years now and have sewn for over 40 years!

Thanks for any advice you can give. I'm thinking I may have to take my machine back to the dealer to figure out the problem.

Thanks,
Marla


Re: HomeBrew Vertical Spool Pin

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Sure, I think that would work just as well. You just need enough CD surface to hold the spool without letting the thread fall over the edge.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Annette" <ahjlwilliams@...> wrote:

Is it possible to you the very small CD instead of the regular sized one and get the same results for the Vertical Spool Pin? I happen to have one that is bad and thought perhaps to get some use out of it. Would it have any advantage at all?
Annette in Louisiana


Re: Quilt binding info

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Yes, the same binder attachment does fit the 12000. However you must also have a high shank foot holder (7700 or 11000 works) to snap on the foot that comes with the binder.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "LAWRENCE" <litto@...> wrote:
I found the corner video to be very helpful. I love this binder and am wondering if the one I used on the horizon will fit the 12,000? Is it just a matter of using a different shank?
Thanks, Kim

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Krause" <nckrause@> wrote:

Hi, Jo Ann. Thought you might enjoy seeing what a Canadian Janome educator
has to say about the quilt binder. Here's a link to her blog,
http://janomelife.wordpress.com/, and check out the November 29, 2011 entry
by lizafrica.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: janome12000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:janome12000@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of mrsmole_uk
Sent: December-01-11 9:38 AM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Quilt binding video from Janome Canada

Just saw this and thought it looked pretty simple but the next up-coming
video should show what happens at the dreaded corners....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lRJq-L00j0&feature=digest_thu

Jo Ann
http://fitforaqueen.wordpress.com/





------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links


HomeBrew Vertical Spool Pin

Annette
 

Is it possible to you the very small CD instead of the regular sized one and get the same results for the Vertical Spool Pin? I happen to have one that is bad and thought perhaps to get some use out of it. Would it have any advantage at all?
Annette in Louisiana


Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

m1955seamstress
 

Jim,
Hi again.  Sorry for so many emails.  I just got back home and turned the little screw on the bobbin case without the yellow dot counterclockwise a little but didn't help whatsoever.  I turned it a little more and still no luck.
 
Thanks for those suggestions.  If you have any other ideas, I would sure appreciate them! 
 
I will be calling my dealer back next week.  Looking like it may possibly take a trip into town unless there's something he can walk me through over the phone.
 
My set mode says auto tension for ordinary sewing.  The other day my dealer had me adjust that and it still wasn't perfect tension.
 
Marla

From: Jim_Stutsman
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

 
When the machine is threaded and set for straight stitch #1, sew an inch or so and stop, leaving the foot down. Cut the needle thread at the front of the needle, above the eye, grab the free end and pull on it. You should feel a lot of resistance. If it comes easy, then the problem is in the needle tension and you'll need dealer assistance. If, however, the thread is fairly hard to pull, raise the foot, clip the bobbin thread and remove the fabric. Pull on the free end of the bobbin thread. It should come much easier than the needle thread, with just a little resistance. Compare the resistance of the regular bobbin case against that of the yellow dot case. The yellow dot should be much more resistant. If they are about the same, it may be that you got a yellow dot case that didn't get marked. Or if the yellow dot is LESS resistant, they may have just dotted the wrong case. Try using it for regular sewing.

Let's assume that the problem is all in the bobbin tension. You can fix that yourself. Here's how:
1. Sew about 3" on scrap using straight stitch #1.
2. If the bobbin is too tight you'll see little loops on the bottom and the bobbin thread on the bottom will be perfectly straight and easy to pull out. If it's too loose you'll see bobbin thread peeking through on top. Use different colors in the needle and bobbin to make it easier.
3. For bobbin too tight, turn the SLOTTED screw on the front of the case (It's at the 6 o'clock position when the case is in the machine) about 1/8 of a turn COUNTER-CLOCKWISE. If it's too loose, turn 1/8 turn CLOCKWISE.
4. Sew again and check. Repeat step 3 if needed. If nothing has changed after a couple of adjustments, do not keep tightening or loosening, as the problem is elsewhere and you won't fix it by endless tightening or loosening. You should see a change after the first adjustment.

While there are things that can cause problems that look like bad tension, you wouldn't see those on a new machine. There are only two components to the tension - needle and bobbin. After these tests you should know which one has the problem. Hopefully it's as simple as mis-marked bobbin cases and you won't need a dealer trip.

--- In janome12000@..., Marla Cooprider wrote:
>
> Jim,
> Thanks for that advice.  I tried that but nothing caught in there.  I assume you're talking about the upper tension area in the area that is numbered "3".  No luck.
>  
> Could it be something with the bobbin case?  A lady I became acquainted with on the Janome forum sent me an email and suggested several things including trying the bobbin case with the yellow dot.  I haven't tried that, but thinking I shouldn't have to do that to get correct tension.
>  
> So frustrated right now as it's looking like I'm going to have to drive an hour back to my dealer and have him look at it. 
>  
> This lady also suggested downloading the upgrade which I haven't done yet, but pretty sure that won't help either!  But she was just grasping at straws.
>  
> Thanks again for that tip. 
>  
> Marla




Re: Quilt binding info

LAWRENCE
 

I should have said the horizon 7700 in the previous msg., since both machines are horizons.
Kim

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "LAWRENCE" <litto@...> wrote:



I found the corner video to be very helpful. I love this binder and am wondering if the one I used on the horizon will fit the 12,000? Is it just a matter of using a different shank?
Thanks, Kim

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Krause" <nckrause@> wrote:

Hi, Jo Ann. Thought you might enjoy seeing what a Canadian Janome educator
has to say about the quilt binder. Here's a link to her blog,
http://janomelife.wordpress.com/, and check out the November 29, 2011 entry
by lizafrica.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: janome12000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:janome12000@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of mrsmole_uk
Sent: December-01-11 9:38 AM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Quilt binding video from Janome Canada

Just saw this and thought it looked pretty simple but the next up-coming
video should show what happens at the dreaded corners....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lRJq-L00j0&feature=digest_thu

Jo Ann
http://fitforaqueen.wordpress.com/





------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links


Re: Quilt binding info

LAWRENCE
 

I found the corner video to be very helpful. I love this binder and am wondering if the one I used on the horizon will fit the 12,000? Is it just a matter of using a different shank?
Thanks, Kim

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Krause" <nckrause@...> wrote:

Hi, Jo Ann. Thought you might enjoy seeing what a Canadian Janome educator
has to say about the quilt binder. Here's a link to her blog,
http://janomelife.wordpress.com/, and check out the November 29, 2011 entry
by lizafrica.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: janome12000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:janome12000@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of mrsmole_uk
Sent: December-01-11 9:38 AM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Quilt binding video from Janome Canada

Just saw this and thought it looked pretty simple but the next up-coming
video should show what happens at the dreaded corners....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lRJq-L00j0&feature=digest_thu

Jo Ann
http://fitforaqueen.wordpress.com/





------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links


Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

m1955seamstress
 

Jim,
Ok, I tested with a straight stitch.   I cut the thread above the needle hole as instructed and pulled and found resistance.
 
I pulled on the bobbin thread and it pulled with a little resistance but not nearly like the top thread. 
 
Then I put the bobbin case in with the yellow dot.  It stitched fine with the straight stitch.  But then I used a zig zag stitch #3 and it is pulling the top thread to the underside with little loops just like using the bobbin case without the yellow dot.  I am using Gutermann thread in both the top and bobbin case for regular sewing.  I use this thread all the time for garment construction.  My test fabric is two layers of batiste I picked up at JoAnn.  I have also tested on denim using a needle for denim as well as using a couple other scraps of fabric with various needles.  So hoping it's just a matter of tweaking the bobbin case...but would both be messed up?!
 
I'm confused!  I have to leave for awhile but if you can give me advice on what to do next, I'd sure appreciate it!  My dealer will hopefully be in the first of next week if I need to take it in for him to adjust for me.
 
I really appreciate your help so much!
 
Marla

From: Jim_Stutsman
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

 
When the machine is threaded and set for straight stitch #1, sew an inch or so and stop, leaving the foot down. Cut the needle thread at the front of the needle, above the eye, grab the free end and pull on it. You should feel a lot of resistance. If it comes easy, then the problem is in the needle tension and you'll need dealer assistance. If, however, the thread is fairly hard to pull, raise the foot, clip the bobbin thread and remove the fabric. Pull on the free end of the bobbin thread. It should come much easier than the needle thread, with just a little resistance. Compare the resistance of the regular bobbin case against that of the yellow dot case. The yellow dot should be much more resistant. If they are about the same, it may be that you got a yellow dot case that didn't get marked. Or if the yellow dot is LESS resistant, they may have just dotted the wrong case. Try using it for regular sewing.

Let's assume that the problem is all in the bobbin tension. You can fix that yourself. Here's how:
1. Sew about 3" on scrap using straight stitch #1.
2. If the bobbin is too tight you'll see little loops on the bottom and the bobbin thread on the bottom will be perfectly straight and easy to pull out. If it's too loose you'll see bobbin thread peeking through on top. Use different colors in the needle and bobbin to make it easier.
3. For bobbin too tight, turn the SLOTTED screw on the front of the case (It's at the 6 o'clock position when the case is in the machine) about 1/8 of a turn COUNTER-CLOCKWISE. If it's too loose, turn 1/8 turn CLOCKWISE.
4. Sew again and check. Repeat step 3 if needed. If nothing has changed after a couple of adjustments, do not keep tightening or loosening, as the problem is elsewhere and you won't fix it by endless tightening or loosening. You should see a change after the first adjustment.

While there are things that can cause problems that look like bad tension, you wouldn't see those on a new machine. There are only two components to the tension - needle and bobbin. After these tests you should know which one has the problem. Hopefully it's as simple as mis-marked bobbin cases and you won't need a dealer trip.

--- In janome12000@..., Marla Cooprider wrote:
>
> Jim,
> Thanks for that advice.  I tried that but nothing caught in there.  I assume you're talking about the upper tension area in the area that is numbered "3".  No luck.
>  
> Could it be something with the bobbin case?  A lady I became acquainted with on the Janome forum sent me an email and suggested several things including trying the bobbin case with the yellow dot.  I haven't tried that, but thinking I shouldn't have to do that to get correct tension.
>  
> So frustrated right now as it's looking like I'm going to have to drive an hour back to my dealer and have him look at it. 
>  
> This lady also suggested downloading the upgrade which I haven't done yet, but pretty sure that won't help either!  But she was just grasping at straws.
>  
> Thanks again for that tip. 
>  
> Marla




Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

m1955seamstress
 

Jim,
 
Thank you so much for this advice. I will try those things.  I may not get it done today but will definitely try everything you have suggested before calling my dealer.  I will let you know how things turn out.
 
Thanks again so much!
 
Marla

From: Jim_Stutsman
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 11:23 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

 
When the machine is threaded and set for straight stitch #1, sew an inch or so and stop, leaving the foot down. Cut the needle thread at the front of the needle, above the eye, grab the free end and pull on it. You should feel a lot of resistance. If it comes easy, then the problem is in the needle tension and you'll need dealer assistance. If, however, the thread is fairly hard to pull, raise the foot, clip the bobbin thread and remove the fabric. Pull on the free end of the bobbin thread. It should come much easier than the needle thread, with just a little resistance. Compare the resistance of the regular bobbin case against that of the yellow dot case. The yellow dot should be much more resistant. If they are about the same, it may be that you got a yellow dot case that didn't get marked. Or if the yellow dot is LESS resistant, they may have just dotted the wrong case. Try using it for regular sewing.

Let's assume that the problem is all in the bobbin tension. You can fix that yourself. Here's how:
1. Sew about 3" on scrap using straight stitch #1.
2. If the bobbin is too tight you'll see little loops on the bottom and the bobbin thread on the bottom will be perfectly straight and easy to pull out. If it's too loose you'll see bobbin thread peeking through on top. Use different colors in the needle and bobbin to make it easier.
3. For bobbin too tight, turn the SLOTTED screw on the front of the case (It's at the 6 o'clock position when the case is in the machine) about 1/8 of a turn COUNTER-CLOCKWISE. If it's too loose, turn 1/8 turn CLOCKWISE.
4. Sew again and check. Repeat step 3 if needed. If nothing has changed after a couple of adjustments, do not keep tightening or loosening, as the problem is elsewhere and you won't fix it by endless tightening or loosening. You should see a change after the first adjustment.

While there are things that can cause problems that look like bad tension, you wouldn't see those on a new machine. There are only two components to the tension - needle and bobbin. After these tests you should know which one has the problem. Hopefully it's as simple as mis-marked bobbin cases and you won't need a dealer trip.

--- In janome12000@..., Marla Cooprider wrote:
>
> Jim,
> Thanks for that advice.  I tried that but nothing caught in there.  I assume you're talking about the upper tension area in the area that is numbered "3".  No luck.
>  
> Could it be something with the bobbin case?  A lady I became acquainted with on the Janome forum sent me an email and suggested several things including trying the bobbin case with the yellow dot.  I haven't tried that, but thinking I shouldn't have to do that to get correct tension.
>  
> So frustrated right now as it's looking like I'm going to have to drive an hour back to my dealer and have him look at it. 
>  
> This lady also suggested downloading the upgrade which I haven't done yet, but pretty sure that won't help either!  But she was just grasping at straws.
>  
> Thanks again for that tip. 
>  
> Marla




Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

When the machine is threaded and set for straight stitch #1, sew an inch or so and stop, leaving the foot down. Cut the needle thread at the front of the needle, above the eye, grab the free end and pull on it. You should feel a lot of resistance. If it comes easy, then the problem is in the needle tension and you'll need dealer assistance. If, however, the thread is fairly hard to pull, raise the foot, clip the bobbin thread and remove the fabric. Pull on the free end of the bobbin thread. It should come much easier than the needle thread, with just a little resistance. Compare the resistance of the regular bobbin case against that of the yellow dot case. The yellow dot should be much more resistant. If they are about the same, it may be that you got a yellow dot case that didn't get marked. Or if the yellow dot is LESS resistant, they may have just dotted the wrong case. Try using it for regular sewing.

Let's assume that the problem is all in the bobbin tension. You can fix that yourself. Here's how:
1. Sew about 3" on scrap using straight stitch #1.
2. If the bobbin is too tight you'll see little loops on the bottom and the bobbin thread on the bottom will be perfectly straight and easy to pull out. If it's too loose you'll see bobbin thread peeking through on top. Use different colors in the needle and bobbin to make it easier.
3. For bobbin too tight, turn the SLOTTED screw on the front of the case (It's at the 6 o'clock position when the case is in the machine) about 1/8 of a turn COUNTER-CLOCKWISE. If it's too loose, turn 1/8 turn CLOCKWISE.
4. Sew again and check. Repeat step 3 if needed. If nothing has changed after a couple of adjustments, do not keep tightening or loosening, as the problem is elsewhere and you won't fix it by endless tightening or loosening. You should see a change after the first adjustment.

While there are things that can cause problems that look like bad tension, you wouldn't see those on a new machine. There are only two components to the tension - needle and bobbin. After these tests you should know which one has the problem. Hopefully it's as simple as mis-marked bobbin cases and you won't need a dealer trip.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Marla Cooprider <m1955seamstress@...> wrote:

Jim,
Thanks for that advice.  I tried that but nothing caught in there.  I assume you're talking about the upper tension area in the area that is numbered "3".  No luck.
 
Could it be something with the bobbin case?  A lady I became acquainted with on the Janome forum sent me an email and suggested several things including trying the bobbin case with the yellow dot.  I haven't tried that, but thinking I shouldn't have to do that to get correct tension.
 
So frustrated right now as it's looking like I'm going to have to drive an hour back to my dealer and have him look at it. 
 
This lady also suggested downloading the upgrade which I haven't done yet, but pretty sure that won't help either!  But she was just grasping at straws.
 
Thanks again for that tip. 
 
Marla


Re: connecting to a computer

malehto
 

Initially I had a problem connecting with HorizonLink. It was late when I was setting up my machine so attributed it to my tiredness. I read somewhere that there was an upgrade available so installed it. By the time I got the firmware upgraded I was falling asleep. I am using Vista Home Premium. The next day when I tried to connect with HorizonLink it worked. It's nice. I have pretty much figured most things out without the manual. This is my first Janome. It is very intuitive. I love the machine but the display is reminiscent of old VGA monitors not the new extra fine graphics available. Have almost completed a 12-motif wall hanging. I was hesitant at first but my dealer convinced me to take her floor model. It already had most of the kinks worked out.

Mary in Savannah Texas

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@...> wrote:

Have you installed the 1.01 update to your machine? It is for adding some languages, as well as correcting "minor issues." We had intermittent connection problems with our machine before installing this update, and we use XP SP3. You can download the update here:
http://www.janome.co.jp/e/e_downloads/mc12000v101.html
Let us know if that helps.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "elainesjosiegirl" <elainekaiser@> wrote:

Is anyone else having a problem linking the MC12000 to their computer? I downloaded the HorizonLink disk that came with the 12000. That part works just fine. But when I tried to connect the computer to the 12000 the computer would not accept the hardware. A Janome tech contacted me and tried very hard to get it to work. She has had to turn it over to Tokoyo. So far no results. My system program is Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3. I mentioned that I am part of this forum and she asked if I would tell all of you my problem to see if there is anyone else having a problem with their computer link.


Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

m1955seamstress
 

Jim,
Thanks for that advice.  I tried that but nothing caught in there.  I assume you're talking about the upper tension area in the area that is numbered "3".  No luck.
 
Could it be something with the bobbin case?  A lady I became acquainted with on the Janome forum sent me an email and suggested several things including trying the bobbin case with the yellow dot.  I haven't tried that, but thinking I shouldn't have to do that to get correct tension.
 
So frustrated right now as it's looking like I'm going to have to drive an hour back to my dealer and have him look at it. 
 
This lady also suggested downloading the upgrade which I haven't done yet, but pretty sure that won't help either!  But she was just grasping at straws.
 
Thanks again for that tip. 
 
Marla
 
 

From: Jim_Stutsman
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

 
It sounds like the tension is not operating correctly. There might be something stuck in there, like a small piece of styrofoam packing. Turn it off and raise the presser foot as high as it will go. Fold a strip of fabric and put the folded edge into the tension slot. Work it back and forth like dental floss. This will usually knock loose anything that's in there. Then turn the machine back on. Put some thread in the slot, lower the foot, and pull on the thread. You should feel resistance. If you don't then there is definitely a problem with the tension, and your dealer should be able to fix it.

--- In janome12000@..., "m1955seamstress" wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm brand new to this forum. I just upgraded my 11000 SE to the 12000 and got my new machine about a week and a half ago. I'm having problems with the tension on my machine just doing normal ordinary sewing! I have the bobbin case without the yellow dot in my machine. I have changed needles, rechecked the threading of the machine several times now!
>
> I'm sure I should not have to adjust the tension settings just to do even cotton or denim, but there are small loops on the bottom of the fabric.
>
> It's probably me, but I called my dealer and he tried to zig zag with his machine in the store and had to adjust the tension!
>
> He was going to contact Janome and get back with me next week.
>
> Has anyone else had problems or am I doing something wrong here? I've been using Janome machines for at least 15 years now and have sewn for over 40 years!
>
> Thanks for any advice you can give. I'm thinking I may have to take my machine back to the dealer to figure out the problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Marla
>




Re: Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

It sounds like the tension is not operating correctly. There might be something stuck in there, like a small piece of styrofoam packing. Turn it off and raise the presser foot as high as it will go. Fold a strip of fabric and put the folded edge into the tension slot. Work it back and forth like dental floss. This will usually knock loose anything that's in there. Then turn the machine back on. Put some thread in the slot, lower the foot, and pull on the thread. You should feel resistance. If you don't then there is definitely a problem with the tension, and your dealer should be able to fix it.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "m1955seamstress" <m1955seamstress@...> wrote:

Hi,
I'm brand new to this forum. I just upgraded my 11000 SE to the 12000 and got my new machine about a week and a half ago. I'm having problems with the tension on my machine just doing normal ordinary sewing! I have the bobbin case without the yellow dot in my machine. I have changed needles, rechecked the threading of the machine several times now!

I'm sure I should not have to adjust the tension settings just to do even cotton or denim, but there are small loops on the bottom of the fabric.

It's probably me, but I called my dealer and he tried to zig zag with his machine in the store and had to adjust the tension!

He was going to contact Janome and get back with me next week.

Has anyone else had problems or am I doing something wrong here? I've been using Janome machines for at least 15 years now and have sewn for over 40 years!

Thanks for any advice you can give. I'm thinking I may have to take my machine back to the dealer to figure out the problem.

Thanks,
Marla


Tension problems for Ordinary Sewing

m1955seamstress
 

Hi,
I'm brand new to this forum. I just upgraded my 11000 SE to the 12000 and got my new machine about a week and a half ago. I'm having problems with the tension on my machine just doing normal ordinary sewing! I have the bobbin case without the yellow dot in my machine. I have changed needles, rechecked the threading of the machine several times now!

I'm sure I should not have to adjust the tension settings just to do even cotton or denim, but there are small loops on the bottom of the fabric.

It's probably me, but I called my dealer and he tried to zig zag with his machine in the store and had to adjust the tension!

He was going to contact Janome and get back with me next week.

Has anyone else had problems or am I doing something wrong here? I've been using Janome machines for at least 15 years now and have sewn for over 40 years!

Thanks for any advice you can give. I'm thinking I may have to take my machine back to the dealer to figure out the problem.

Thanks,
Marla


Re: bobbin thread included with machine

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

That's actually understandable. A lot of people buy commercial bobbin thread on large cones. It's much finer than Janome bobbin thread, and will pull up with a normal bobbin case. Perhaps that's why they added the extra case.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Martin" <shejmartin@...> wrote:

The instruction manual actually says to change the bobbin holder for all bobbin threads except Janome, which I thought was interesting.


Re: connecting to a computer

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Have you installed the 1.01 update to your machine? It is for adding some languages, as well as correcting "minor issues." We had intermittent connection problems with our machine before installing this update, and we use XP SP3. You can download the update here:
http://www.janome.co.jp/e/e_downloads/mc12000v101.html
Let us know if that helps.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "elainesjosiegirl" <elainekaiser@...> wrote:

Is anyone else having a problem linking the MC12000 to their computer? I downloaded the HorizonLink disk that came with the 12000. That part works just fine. But when I tried to connect the computer to the 12000 the computer would not accept the hardware. A Janome tech contacted me and tried very hard to get it to work. She has had to turn it over to Tokoyo. So far no results. My system program is Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3. I mentioned that I am part of this forum and she asked if I would tell all of you my problem to see if there is anyone else having a problem with their computer link.


Re: Upgrading

Sherry Martin
 

Also forgot to mention that I got him to go down $900 from the 1st price he quoted me, so you might be able to haggle a little bit.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Martin" <shejmartin@...> wrote:

I traded in a 6 month old 11000 and also got a 3160 for my "class" machine. My dealer also gave it to me as part of the deal, along with exchanging my 24x32 sew steady table for one that fits the 12000, and I traded in a roller bag for my 11000 for a smaller one to fit the 3160 with no price difference (he should have made money on it because it was about $130 when I bought it and I only used it twice and the retail for the new bag was $70). He was pretty insistent that that would be the machine I would want for classes. I was willing to take a lesser model, but he didn't think I'd be happy and didn't even really quote me a price for anything else. If you figure that supposedly you can get the 12000 for $9000 ($12,000 retail) and the 3160 is $699 (supposedly $1000 retail), I got about $3500 for my 11000. I paid $5000 for it, which unfortunately was more than I should have. I bought it at a different dealer, and I found out later that the dealer I bought the 12000 from was selling it for $3800 at the same time I bought mine. So I lost some money in the deal but that was mostly because I paid too much for the 11000 to begin with. Oh, also got 48 mos. 0% financing.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "mcmaster_heather" <hddcreation@> wrote:

Hi
i am a newie to the site. Live in QLD Australia, on my own after recent passing of D H. Have owned Janome machines since 1982 and still have my memory Craft 6000 28 years. Have a daughter in Adelaide getting married in Sept 12. A son, daughter in law and two small granddaughters( 2 1/2 & 12 weeks) in Darwin whom I am visiting at Christmas.

Joined to get info on the 12000 as I am considering upgrading my 5 month old 7700 which I got after having a 6600 for 4 years. I have never used an embroidery machine before and it seems a bit daunting. But that said I think I am ready for a few new challenges in my life.
I have been into my dealer and he has offered me the 12000 for $8500 Aus. (rrp 11999). I reminded him my 7700 was hardly used so he brought down to $8000. I rang around and got similar offer from another dealer further away.
Then I asked about the 3160 as I would like option of a machine to stitch on while the embroideries stitch out. Second dealer gave a price of $699. Original dealer said Yes I can "chuck it in" and at NO extra price!!
Am seriously considering deal and off to dealer on Monday for a look and play.

Have belonged to the group sites for both other machines and find them very helpful

Cheers
Heather
Cooloola Coast QLD


Re: Upgrading

Sherry Martin
 

I traded in a 6 month old 11000 and also got a 3160 for my "class" machine. My dealer also gave it to me as part of the deal, along with exchanging my 24x32 sew steady table for one that fits the 12000. He was pretty insistent that that would be the machine I would want for classes. I was willing to take a lesser model, but he didn't think I'd be happy and didn't even really quote me a price for anything else. If you figure that supposedly you can get the 12000 for $9000 ($12,000 retail) and the 3160 is $699 (supposedly $1000 retail), I got about $3500 for my 11000. I paid $5000 for it, which unfortunately was more than I should have. I bought it at a different dealer, and I found out later that the dealer I bought the 12000 from was selling it for $3800 at the same time I bought mine. So I lost some money in the deal but that was mostly because I paid too much for the 11000 to begin with. Oh, also got 48 mos. 0% financing.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "mcmaster_heather" <hddcreation@...> wrote:

Hi
i am a newie to the site. Live in QLD Australia, on my own after recent passing of D H. Have owned Janome machines since 1982 and still have my memory Craft 6000 28 years. Have a daughter in Adelaide getting married in Sept 12. A son, daughter in law and two small granddaughters( 2 1/2 & 12 weeks) in Darwin whom I am visiting at Christmas.

Joined to get info on the 12000 as I am considering upgrading my 5 month old 7700 which I got after having a 6600 for 4 years. I have never used an embroidery machine before and it seems a bit daunting. But that said I think I am ready for a few new challenges in my life.
I have been into my dealer and he has offered me the 12000 for $8500 Aus. (rrp 11999). I reminded him my 7700 was hardly used so he brought down to $8000. I rang around and got similar offer from another dealer further away.
Then I asked about the 3160 as I would like option of a machine to stitch on while the embroideries stitch out. Second dealer gave a price of $699. Original dealer said Yes I can "chuck it in" and at NO extra price!!
Am seriously considering deal and off to dealer on Monday for a look and play.

Have belonged to the group sites for both other machines and find them very helpful

Cheers
Heather
Cooloola Coast QLD


Re: bobbin thread included with machine

Sherry Martin
 

The instruction manual actually says to change the bobbin holder for all bobbin threads except Janome, which I thought was interesting.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" <jim@...> wrote:

The bobbin thread included with the machine is Janome's own bobbin thread that they've been using since the 8000. It's very good for embroidery. As for the embroidery bobbin case, that's a departure for Janome. In every embroidery-capable machine up to now, they've used a single bobbin case for both sewing and embroidery. The machines adjust the needle tension as needed for perfect sewing and embroidery. However if you read the various lists on Yahoo, the number one problem that embroiderers are always asking for help with is bobbin thread showing on top. Bobbin tension is only one possible cause for this problem, but by putting in a bobbin case with extra tension they can ensure that no bobbin shows even if things aren't quite right.

In our tests we have gotten good embroidery results even with the standard bobbin case. We've been using Janome bobbins pre-wound with Robison-Anton bobbin thread. These are available from Janome dealers as part #RAPREW108.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "janetpiekarski" <jsm1144@> wrote:

Hello, all!
Jim, is that spool of bobbin thread that's included with the machine the fine sort that requires that special bobbin case?? (Or is it meant only for the MB-4 thread and the like)?