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Re: Quilting with 12000

sewnana1990 <marsha.ryan@...>
 

I have used the magnetic hoops successfully when quilting a quilt. I have had no problems doing so.
Marsha

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Donna Morton" <demorton@...> wrote:

You might be able to use them in a quilt as you go project but they are not strong enough to hold even a table runner without lots of grief, especially if bulky seams are in the way.

Donna M
Canada

From: rosematt11@...
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:30 PM
To: janome12000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [janome12000] Quilting with 12000


I am new to this group, so a big Florida hello to all of you.

I own a 11000SE and have really liked it, but nonethless am thinking I want to upgrade to the 12000. I quilt a lot and my dealer suggested I could use the 12x8 hoop to quilt with, with just the magnets holding the quilt sandwich in place? Has anyone out there tried that?

Also, if anyone wants to share the pros and cons of one machine over the other I am looking for advice.

Thanks, Rose


Re: loops on top

monal
 

I think I will do the 8" blocks - I will be using warm and natural - not the batilizer and a lightweight cut away stabilizer. The batilizer is much too expensive for me at this time what with the cost of exchange etc (I live in Canada). I am using up my "stash of stabilizer and batting" as well as some of my materials. I did have to buy thread for the "C" colour but for all the rest well of course I will be using my stash.

Mona

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Fmjfrazier@... wrote:

I find with Hoopsisters designs if you put a layer of soft n sheer by sulky > or a light permanent stabilizer in the quilt sandwich my embroidery gives > me less issues. What size blocks are you doing? there are some stitch > issues with the 5 and 6 inch blocks.


In a message dated 4/13/2013 7:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mlcashman@... writes:

keep me posted - I am starting this Feathered Ferns class in 8 days - so > excited

Mona

--- In _janome12000@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:janome12000@yahoogroups.com) ,
cladydi328@ wrote:


Re: using the convertible free motion set on the Janome 12000

Patricia Ward
 

I have had very good luck using all of the plastic feet that come with the 12000 and they just fasten onto the shank. I like the fact that they have that extra bar in the back that fastens into the shank as well because the foot is stable.  You can adjust your foot height if you need for a thick quilt but I have never had to do that. 

With the Supreme Glider that was designed for the 12000 my quilts just glide across the surface.  

Personally I am very happy with the foot options that the 12000 gives us. 

Pat


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Mary Jane Weddle <maryjweddle@...> wrote:


I do not like the plastic feet that are for free motion that comes with the 12000 machine as well as the feet I purchased for the 11000.  I just like the little narrow open toe foot and the tiny closed toe foot for the 11000 better. To me the plastic feet are bulky and harder to do things like echo quilting and very detailed designs.

On Apr 14, 2013 10:01 AM, "freida" <freida@...> wrote:
 

There is a convertible free motion set for the 12000 and it comes with
the machine. The difference is the feet snap on to the shank and do not
screw on. It comes with the same 3 feet that the original convertible
free motion set has. If you are using one from your 11000 or any other
machine, you take the chance of damaging your machine and possibly
voiding your warranty.

--
Freida Doubts
Sew E-Z





Re: Bought It

Virginia
 

Actually Rose it is a 9.7 by 11.7 hoop.  Larger than you thought. 
 

In a message dated 4/14/2013 10:01:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rosematt11@... writes:
 

I did buy the Horizon 12000, plus the upgrade to MBX. Have some routine sewing to do, but have already digitized a diamond single line run to put on the sashing of a quilt-as-you-go project. I plan to use the 8x12 hoop, holding the sandwich in place with the magnets like my dealer suggested...will let you know how that works out.

Loving it, Rose


Re: using the convertible free motion set on the Janome 12000

Mary Jane Weddle <maryjweddle@...>
 

I do not like the plastic feet that are for free motion that comes with the 12000 machine as well as the feet I purchased for the 11000.  I just like the little narrow open toe foot and the tiny closed toe foot for the 11000 better. To me the plastic feet are bulky and harder to do things like echo quilting and very detailed designs.

On Apr 14, 2013 10:01 AM, "freida" <freida@...> wrote:
 

There is a convertible free motion set for the 12000 and it comes with
the machine. The difference is the feet snap on to the shank and do not
screw on. It comes with the same 3 feet that the original convertible
free motion set has. If you are using one from your 11000 or any other
machine, you take the chance of damaging your machine and possibly
voiding your warranty.

--
Freida Doubts
Sew E-Z


Re: Artistic Suite software question

maggie cooper
 

 I find it puzzling that Janome keeps flogging it instead of the far superior Digitizer MBX product. Try to get the same deal with MBX, but failing that take the discount.
(from Jim )
 
Jim, I have heard a lot about Embird software--what about it?
Melanie
 
It's very popular, mostly because it's less expensive than other offerings and you can buy only what you need, one module at a time. It's not at all on the same level as MBX, but for many people it's all they need. That said, I don't use it, so I'm not really one to ask.
(from Jim)
 
Melanie, I have tried the Artistic software and like Jim found it outdated, awkward , not as easy or friendly to use as Janome/Wilcoms own software. It's main selling point it had a cutwork feature, but the standard digitising wasn't as intuitive as  the Janome/Wilcom package or the stitch engine as good. It was a program past its sell by date.
 
I use Embird, it's a good program, modular, not as inexpensive as Embird users tend to believe, also not as intuitive or user friendly as Janomes MBX. The learning curve can be steep, but having said that any digitising programs learning curve to a first time user can be daunting. I still use Embird, mainly as teach I it, but my program preference for my own work is the Janome/Wilcom software, I never need to take a design into an editor to sort out poorly pathed program generated underlay runs, (a requirement 90 percent of the time in Embird) remove overlapping areas of stitching. In the Janome software I have everything I need on one screen, no jumping from module to module, and it supports Janome embroidery machines. It does appear pricey but the investment is well worth it.
 
I also own Generations, now unused as the writers have failed to fix numerous issues, blaming them on end users, Origins, no longer available but I hang onto it as it was a lovely little program. I had stitch Era Universal, I've uninstalled it and have actually deliberately broken the disc as it was horrendous to use, I did have the Brother digitising program but it was stitch based and until the launch of their  Next software was not the most friendly software around, the new version now resembles the Janome/Wilcom  user interface. I've looked at Florriani's Total Control, again it resembles the Janome/Wilcom MBX but lacks some of the better MBX functions.
 
If you can persuade your dealer to stop offering you the inferior Artistic Suite software, ( it's a Janome USA sales drive, not a Janome Japan corporate choice) and push for the Janome/Wilcom package MBX, you'll have a far better program.
Maggie Cooper UK.


Re: using the convertible free motion set on the Janome 12000

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The reason Gerda wanted to use the convertible free motion set was to get the metal foot with the small eyelet. The QC foot that comes with the 12000 is plastic and larger than the metal foot in the convertible set.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, freida <freida@...> wrote:

There is a convertible free motion set for the 12000 and it comes with
the machine. The difference is the feet snap on to the shank and do not
screw on. It comes with the same 3 feet that the original convertible
free motion set has. If you are using one from your 11000 or any other
machine, you take the chance of damaging your machine and possibly
voiding your warranty.

--
Freida Doubts
Sew E-Z


Re: using the convertible free motion set on the Janome 12000

Freida Doubts
 

There is a convertible free motion set for the 12000 and it comes with the machine. The difference is the feet snap on to the shank and do not screw on. It comes with the same 3 feet that the original convertible free motion set has. If you are using one from your 11000 or any other machine, you take the chance of damaging your machine and possibly voiding your warranty.

--
Freida Doubts
Sew E-Z


Bought It

rosematt11@ymail.com
 

I did buy the Horizon 12000, plus the upgrade to MBX. Have some routine sewing to do, but have already digitized a diamond single line run to put on the sashing of a quilt-as-you-go project. I plan to use the 8x12 hoop, holding the sandwich in place with the magnets like my dealer suggested...will let you know how that works out.

Loving it, Rose


Re: loops on top

Virginia
 

I find with Hoopsisters designs if you put a layer of soft n sheer by sulky or a light permanent stabilizer in the quilt sandwich my embroidery gives me less issues.  What size blocks are you doing?  there are some stitch issues with the 5 and 6 inch blocks. 
 

In a message dated 4/13/2013 7:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mlcashman@... writes:
 

keep me posted - I am starting this Feathered Ferns class in 8 days - so excited

Mona

--- In janome12000@..., cladydi328@... wrote:
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> Jim, Please help. I am embroidering a hoopsisters quilt. It is the star and feather(new one). Doing the embroidery I am starting to get loops on top. I have a new needle and have slowed down the machine. What else do I need to do? The embroidery on the first square had maybe three loops but on it, this second one I've already gotten 5 and am not finished. It was digitized by Sharon Shombler and it is beautiful. Please help. The material and thread is too expensive for this to mess up.
> Thanks,
> Diane in NC
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> >
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Re: Artistic Suite software question

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

It's very popular, mostly because it's less expensive than other offerings and you can buy only what you need, one module at a time. It's not at all on the same level as MBX, but for many people it's all they need. That said, I don't use it, so I'm not really one to ask.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Melanie <mel2sew@...> wrote:


Jim, I have heard a lot about Embird software--what about it?
Melanie



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
To: janome12000 <janome12000@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Apr 13, 2013 6:06 pm
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Artistic Suite software question





When the Artistic Suite first came out, prior to the 12000, we looked at it. I was not impressed, because this particular software had been offered by many others over the years under various names. The documentation made reference to floppy disks and dot matrix printers, which is a testament to how long it's been sitting on the shelf. It is not particularly easy to use, and I find it puzzling that Janome keeps flogging it instead of the far superior Digitizer MBX product. Try to get the same deal with MBX, but failing that take the discount.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "mel2sew" <mel2sew@> wrote:

I am in process of buying my 12000 and my dealer has offered to throw in the high-priced Artistic Suite software with my machine when I pick it up or he will knock the value off the cost of machine. I am not experienced or knowledgable in embroidery software, so I am not sure if I need the Artistic Suite or if there is more affordable software out there that does the everything it can do.

I want to be able to customize & digitize original redwork designs, logos, monograms, and brands for home decor items.

Do you use Artistic Suite? What can you tell me about it? DOes it have advantages over other software pkgs? What capabilities does it have that are worth the extra $$$? If you use other programs, other than money, why did you choose it? What would you recommend?

I have had people tell me that you have to spend lots of money to get really good and user-friendly digitizing software, but before I invest in any program(s), I want lots of information.

Thanks so much,
Inquiring newbie
Melanie


Re: Artistic Suite software question

mel2sew
 

Jim, I have heard a lot about Embird software--what about it?
Melanie
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim_Stutsman
To: janome12000
Sent: Sat, Apr 13, 2013 6:06 pm
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Artistic Suite software question

 
When the Artistic Suite first came out, prior to the 12000, we looked at it. I was not impressed, because this particular software had been offered by many others over the years under various names. The documentation made reference to floppy disks and dot matrix printers, which is a testament to how long it's been sitting on the shelf. It is not particularly easy to use, and I find it puzzling that Janome keeps flogging it instead of the far superior Digitizer MBX product. Try to get the same deal with MBX, but failing that take the discount.

--- In janome12000@..., "mel2sew" >
> I am in process of buying my 12000 and my dealer has offered to throw in the high-priced Artistic Suite software with my machine when I pick it up or he will knock the value off the cost of machine. I am not experienced or knowledgable in embroidery software, so I am not sure if I need the Artistic Suite or if there is more affordable software out there that does the everything it can do.
>
> I want to be able to customize & digitize original redwork designs, logos, monograms, and brands for home decor items.
>
> Do you use Artistic Suite? What can you tell me about it? DOes it have advantages over other software pkgs? What capabilities does it have that are worth the extra $$$? If you use other programs, other than money, why did you choose it? What would you recommend?
>
> I have had people tell me that you have to spend lots of money to get really good and user-friendly digitizing software, but before I invest in any program(s), I want lots of information.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Inquiring newbie
> Melanie
>


Re: loops on top

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Good catch Vicki - we use thread nets on the MB-4 for the same reason.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "stitchnpatch" <stitchnpatch@...> wrote:

I've had lots of loops on the top of my embroideries - I use Isacord thread, also polyester like Floriana and have found that using thread nets over the cones and standing them on a separate thread stand nearly eliminates them all. On a bad day one or two still sneak in!

Vicki


Re: Artistic Suite software question

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

When the Artistic Suite first came out, prior to the 12000, we looked at it. I was not impressed, because this particular software had been offered by many others over the years under various names. The documentation made reference to floppy disks and dot matrix printers, which is a testament to how long it's been sitting on the shelf. It is not particularly easy to use, and I find it puzzling that Janome keeps flogging it instead of the far superior Digitizer MBX product. Try to get the same deal with MBX, but failing that take the discount.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "mel2sew" <mel2sew@...> wrote:

I am in process of buying my 12000 and my dealer has offered to throw in the high-priced Artistic Suite software with my machine when I pick it up or he will knock the value off the cost of machine. I am not experienced or knowledgable in embroidery software, so I am not sure if I need the Artistic Suite or if there is more affordable software out there that does the everything it can do.

I want to be able to customize & digitize original redwork designs, logos, monograms, and brands for home decor items.

Do you use Artistic Suite? What can you tell me about it? DOes it have advantages over other software pkgs? What capabilities does it have that are worth the extra $$$? If you use other programs, other than money, why did you choose it? What would you recommend?

I have had people tell me that you have to spend lots of money to get really good and user-friendly digitizing software, but before I invest in any program(s), I want lots of information.

Thanks so much,
Inquiring newbie
Melanie


Re: loops on top

stitchnpatch
 

I've had lots of loops on the top of my embroideries - I use Isacord thread, also polyester like Floriana and have found that using thread nets over the cones and standing them on a separate thread stand nearly eliminates them all. On a bad day one or two still sneak in!

Vicki


Re: Quilting with 12000

Donna Morton
 

You might be able to use them in a quilt as you go project but they are not strong enough to hold even a table runner without lots of grief, especially if bulky seams are in the way.
 
Donna M
Canada
 

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Quilting with 12000
 
 

I am new to this group, so a big Florida hello to all of you.

I own a 11000SE and have really liked it, but nonethless am thinking I want to upgrade to the 12000. I quilt a lot and my dealer suggested I could use the 12x8 hoop to quilt with, with just the magnets holding the quilt sandwich in place? Has anyone out there tried that?

Also, if anyone wants to share the pros and cons of one machine over the other I am looking for advice.

Thanks, Rose


Artistic Suite software question

mel2sew
 

I am in process of buying my 12000 and my dealer has offered to throw in the high-priced Artistic Suite software with my machine when I pick it up or he will knock the value off the cost of machine. I am not experienced or knowledgable in embroidery software, so I am not sure if I need the Artistic Suite or if there is more affordable software out there that does the everything it can do.

I want to be able to customize & digitize original redwork designs, logos, monograms, and brands for home decor items.

Do you use Artistic Suite? What can you tell me about it? DOes it have advantages over other software pkgs? What capabilities does it have that are worth the extra $$$? If you use other programs, other than money, why did you choose it? What would you recommend?

I have had people tell me that you have to spend lots of money to get really good and user-friendly digitizing software, but before I invest in any program(s), I want lots of information.

Thanks so much,
Inquiring newbie
Melanie


Re: loops on top

monal
 

keep me posted - I am starting this Feathered Ferns class in 8 days - so excited

Mona

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, cladydi328@... wrote:


Jim, Please help. I am embroidering a hoopsisters quilt. It is the star and feather(new one). Doing the embroidery I am starting to get loops on top. I have a new needle and have slowed down the machine. What else do I need to do? The embroidery on the first square had maybe three loops but on it, this second one I've already gotten 5 and am not finished. It was digitized by Sharon Shombler and it is beautiful. Please help. The material and thread is too expensive for this to mess up.
Thanks,
Diane in NC









Re: using the convertible free motion set on the Janome 12000

Mary Jane Weddle <maryjweddle@...>
 

I have used the open quilting foot from the 11000 for free motion quilting.  I do have to remove the foot after using it and before starting the machine.  Otherwise when I start the machine, it makes a noise and tells me to check the foot.  I like the foot better than the plastic ones that came with the 12000.

On Apr 13, 2013 11:19 AM, "pinguin60@..." <pinguin60@...> wrote:
 

Hi Jim,
is there another convertible free motion set available for the 12000?

Gerda


Op 13-04-13 00:18, Jim_Stutsman schreef:
 

No, you can't even get it on. The automatic presser foot lifting mechanism interferes with the attachment of the foot.

--- In janome12000@..., "pinguin60@..." wrote:
>
> Hello,
> does anyone know if I can safely use the convertibel free motion set
> from my 6600 on the Janome 12000 (not the disc, that is for 7 mm) It is
> just that I like the little metal open foot a lot.
>
> Thanks,
> Gerda
>



Re: using the convertible free motion set on the Janome 12000

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

There is one included with the 8200 & 8900, part #858820007. However I don't know whether that would fit on the 12000, for the same reason that the 6600 set does not fit.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "pinguin60@..." <pinguin60@...> wrote:

Hi Jim,
is there another convertible free motion set available for the 12000?

Gerda


Op 13-04-13 00:18, Jim_Stutsman schreef:

No, you can't even get it on. The automatic presser foot lifting
mechanism interferes with the attachment of the foot.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:janome12000%40yahoogroups.com>, "pinguin60@"
<pinguin60@> wrote:

Hello,
does anyone know if I can safely use the convertibel free motion set
from my 6600 on the Janome 12000 (not the disc, that is for 7 mm) It is
just that I like the little metal open foot a lot.

Thanks,
Gerda