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Re: Convince me to go try out the 12000

sue
 

My thanks to all of you for your quick replies.
 
My plans are to go and visit my dealer in the next couple of weeks and try out the 12000. If I get this machine, I'm sure I'll be a regular poster...LOL!
 
Thanks again - Sue


Re: 12000/8900 Feet

Richard and Debra
 

The dual feed 1/4" piecing foot is one of the feet I'm talking about.
I've ask my dealer to see if they can order one for me. I'm sure hoping
they come out with the dual feed open-toe, 9mm. I mean, we had them for
the 6600 and 7700. Surely, they'll make one for the 9mm machines!!

Deb (KY)


--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" wrote:

The OD foot that comes with the 12000 is for dual feed 1/4" piecing.
The only open toe foot for quilting is the QO foot, which is not dual
feed. No dual feed open toe foot has been announced. Like the 5 x 7
hoop, this is something we had before that they did not bring to the
12000 for reasons unknown.


Foot up and down question

Pixey
 

While I primarily bought the 12000 for its big hoop embroidery capabilities, I was doing a handbag project this past weekend where I wanted to utilize some of the 12000 specific sewing features, particularly the narrow AcuFeed zipper foot and built in precision cloth guide. 
 
I liked the way my project came out but encountered a machine idiosyncracy that was bugging me.  It was the automatic/powered presser foot up/down override.  I was trying to get a close start alignment on my fabric and whenever I would start to ease the foot up just a little bit with the lever in the back in order to slightly adjust my fabric, it would trigger auto up mode, which tended to startle me and and cause me to shift my fabric.  Then it wouldn't let me manually lower the foot with the back lever (only allowing me to use the foot down button on the front).  I really missed the ability to do a soft, slow, manual lowering of the presser foot on my fabric.
 
Is this a characteristic of the machine...that the manual foot down ability is disabled in favor of the automatic function?  Or is it something I've inadvertently configured in my settings somewhere...and if so, how do I change it?
 
Thanks,
Pixey


Re: Convince me to go try out the 12000

Pixey
 

Hi Sue,
The 12000 sounds complicated and confusing because it has so much potential.  Also, keep in mind that members of this group come from all paths and experience levels, from embroidery newbies to those that are using some of the machine's really advanced features and from experienced Janome users to brand newcomers. I define myself as somewhere in the middle in terms of sewing and embroidery skills.  My previous experience had been with other Janome machines, including a MC3000, MC6600P, 350E, 4800 (which was traded in as part of the deal on the 12000) and sergers. This definitely helped the learning curve as there are a number of similarities that are peculiar to Janome (such as the needle threader, threading path, etc.). 
 
That said, when I got my 12000, the dealer did a 'getting started' overview with me of about an hour (attaching/removing the embroidery unit, basic screen and menu navigation, using help screens, etc) and this was plenty to get me started.  I had hooked up the embroidery unit, formatted a USB drive, and done a composite filigree style embroidery design for a window topper in one of the large hoops within days of getting my machine with very little confusion.   I didn't even initially set up HorizonLink on my computer because I was comfortable moving designs via USB.  Since then, I have loaded the software (with some tips from my dealer) hooked my laptop to the machine, gotten a few of the new accessories, and gradually begun using more of the built in features. Most recently, I did some regular "sewing" on it using the narrow accufeed foot (a definite improvement over the wider 6600 accufeed) and built in sewing clothsetter (way cool).  While I was occasionally muttering curses under my breath about where they 'hid' a particular customization setting, I haven't found the machine that difficult to learn.  Though the tutorials on the Janome website do help because they show the potential of doing things that I hadn't even thought about.
 
Pixey
 
 

From: sue
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 9:40 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Convince me to go try out the 12000
 
I started out with the 8000, then the 10,000 with the upgrade. My beloved 10M is now sending me error messages like "the data on the card is damaged, etc.", then it embroiders fine. I thought it was time to look at the 12M and it sounded like a fantastic machine, but after reading all your posts, it sounds soooo complicated and confusing. I don't know if I should visit my dealer and check it out or continue to wonder if my 10M is going to give me even more problems. I don't quilt, but I make all my own clothes, sew for my home, and LOVE to embroider. I use my machine a lot.

Is it really as complicated as it sounds? All I need is a little push and I'll be at my dealer's front door! Thanks for your help.


Re: To buy or not to buy? Video

Anne <csarina43@...>
 

I have practised what I have preached for years. Janome everytime...I have used Bernina and Brother,would not touch them with a barge pole I had a metal bodied Bernina for many years till I bought my first Janome, after that I was hooked.

I had a Janome 6000, 8000CE, 11,000 and I now have a 12000. I have had a couple of problems with it, but generally its wonderful I love it.

The 11000 I bought second hand and sold it for what I paid for it. The 6000 was put in PE for the 8500CE which I sold 10 years later and it is still going strong.


Re: Convince me to go try out the 12000

lynschieber <lynnschieber@...>
 

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "sue" wrote:

I started out with the 8000, then the 10,000 with the upgrade. My beloved 10M is now sending me error messages like "the data on the card is damaged, etc.", then it embroiders fine. I thought it was time to look at the 12M and it sounded like a fantastic machine, but after reading all your posts, it sounds soooo complicated and confusing. I don't know if I should visit my dealer and check it out or continue to wonder if my 10M is going to give me even more problems. I don't quilt, but I make all my own clothes, sew for my home, and LOVE to embroider. I use my machine a lot.

Is it really as complicated as it sounds? All I need is a little push and I'll be at my dealer's front door! Thanks for your help.

Sue - I have had my 12000 a little over a year - it is the most user friendly machine I have ever had, and I have had several. It is not at all complicated and it embroideries and sews beautifully.

Lynn in Texas


Re: Convince me to go try out the 12000

Connie <cldparrish@...>
 

I purchased my 12K in December. At first I was overwhelmed with evrything. Now that I have had time to get use to the 12K I am so happy I purchased the 12K. It really is not complicated. Just read the manual that comes with it and take the lessons. This machine will last me for years. Here is your push.

From: sue
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 9:40 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Convince me to go try out the 12000
 
I started out with the 8000, then the 10,000 with the upgrade. My beloved 10M is now sending me error messages like "the data on the card is damaged, etc.", then it embroiders fine. I thought it was time to look at the 12M and it sounded like a fantastic machine, but after reading all your posts, it sounds soooo complicated and confusing. I don't know if I should visit my dealer and check it out or continue to wonder if my 10M is going to give me even more problems. I don't quilt, but I make all my own clothes, sew for my home, and LOVE to embroider. I use my machine a lot.

Is it really as complicated as it sounds? All I need is a little push and I'll be at my dealer's front door! Thanks for your help.


Re: 12000/8900 Feet

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The OD foot that comes with the 12000 is for dual feed 1/4" piecing. The only open toe foot for quilting is the QO foot, which is not dual feed. No dual feed open toe foot has been announced. Like the 5 x 7 hoop, this is something we had before that they did not bring to the 12000 for reasons unknown.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, doherty4@... wrote:


I have the 8900, and wondering if an accufeed 1/4" foot is available yet
for the 12000; also looking for the open-toe accufeed foot. Does anyone
know of these are available, or will be available soon?! I'm really
missing not having both those feet [:)] !! Thanks!

Deb (KY)


Re: Convince me to go try out the 12000

Kathy <beadqueen@...>
 

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" wrote:

Your 10000 problem is most likely due to a Compact Flash card that is worn out. They don't last forever, and when they start going bad you'll start getting error messages.

That said, the 12000 is a MUCH nicer machine, and easier to use than the 10000. You should at least go have a look!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "sue" wrote:

I started out with the 8000, then the 10,000 with the upgrade. My beloved 10M is now sending me error messages like "the data on the card is damaged, etc.", then it embroiders fine. I thought it was time to look at the 12M and it sounded like a fantastic machine, but after reading all your posts, it sounds soooo complicated and confusing. I don't know if I should visit my dealer and check it out or continue to wonder if my 10M is going to give me even more problems. I don't quilt, but I make all my own clothes, sew for my home, and LOVE to embroider. I use my machine a lot.

Is it really as complicated as it sounds? All I need is a little push and I'll be at my dealer's front door! Thanks for your help.
I got my 12000 several months ago and have been really happy with it. I think it's the ultimate in machines of this kind. You won't be sorry.


12000/8900 Feet

Richard and Debra
 

I have the 8900, and wondering if an accufeed 1/4" foot is available yet for the 12000; also looking for the open-toe accufeed foot.  Does anyone know of these are available, or will be available soon?!  I'm really missing not having both those feet !!  Thanks!

Deb (KY)


Re: Convince me to go try out the 12000

JUDY
 

I also started with the 8000 and still have it, but then I went to 11000 and now have the 12000...I upgraded from the 11000 to 12000 just to get the extra large hoop although not any companies that I know of have designs out that would fill this hoop so I was very disappointed, I had to buy software to convert the larger designs!   but I also quilt and liked having  more room under the arm....but if I were you and I did not do quilting, I would go with the 11000, I was very happy with it and it does have a quilting program that probably will have  already been installed on a used model...check with your dealer on an 11000 and you should get a great deal! at least half the cost of a 12000

 


From: sue
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Mon, January 7, 2013 11:50:57 PM
Subject: [janome12000] Convince me to go try out the 12000

 

I started out with the 8000, then the 10,000 with the upgrade. My beloved 10M is now sending me error messages like "the data on the card is damaged, etc.", then it embroiders fine. I thought it was time to look at the 12M and it sounded like a fantastic machine, but after reading all your posts, it sounds soooo complicated and confusing. I don't know if I should visit my dealer and check it out or continue to wonder if my 10M is going to give me even more problems. I don't quilt, but I make all my own clothes, sew for my home, and LOVE to embroider. I use my machine a lot.

Is it really as complicated as it sounds? All I need is a little push and I'll be at my dealer's front door! Thanks for your help.


Re: Convince me to go try out the 12000

grandma
 

I have the 12,000 and it is much more user friendly than some of the other TOL machines on the market today. It is very straight forward to use. Of course there is a learning curve, as with anything, but you will be very impressed. Just go try it and see what you think.


Re: Convince me to go try out the 12000

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Your 10000 problem is most likely due to a Compact Flash card that is worn out. They don't last forever, and when they start going bad you'll start getting error messages.

That said, the 12000 is a MUCH nicer machine, and easier to use than the 10000. You should at least go have a look!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "sue" wrote:

I started out with the 8000, then the 10,000 with the upgrade. My beloved 10M is now sending me error messages like "the data on the card is damaged, etc.", then it embroiders fine. I thought it was time to look at the 12M and it sounded like a fantastic machine, but after reading all your posts, it sounds soooo complicated and confusing. I don't know if I should visit my dealer and check it out or continue to wonder if my 10M is going to give me even more problems. I don't quilt, but I make all my own clothes, sew for my home, and LOVE to embroider. I use my machine a lot.

Is it really as complicated as it sounds? All I need is a little push and I'll be at my dealer's front door! Thanks for your help.


Convince me to go try out the 12000

sue
 

I started out with the 8000, then the 10,000 with the upgrade. My beloved 10M is now sending me error messages like "the data on the card is damaged, etc.", then it embroiders fine. I thought it was time to look at the 12M and it sounded like a fantastic machine, but after reading all your posts, it sounds soooo complicated and confusing. I don't know if I should visit my dealer and check it out or continue to wonder if my 10M is going to give me even more problems. I don't quilt, but I make all my own clothes, sew for my home, and LOVE to embroider. I use my machine a lot.

Is it really as complicated as it sounds? All I need is a little push and I'll be at my dealer's front door! Thanks for your help.


Re: MEMBERSHIP

turcotte37
 

Thanks JIm had to re-join

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim_Stutsman" wrote:

Start by going to the Yahoo Groups page: http://groups.yahoo.com Log in if necessary.
Now click the drop down arrow after your name in the top left corner. Choose "Account Info" from the menu. On the next page scroll down to "Account Settings" and click "Manage your Yahoo! aliases". Create an alias that you want to use instead of your name. It's not clear whether this will work in the Groups pages or not. If it doesn't, then you'll have to create a new Yahoo ID and re-join your groups with that.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "lindabeaulieu863" wrote:

Hi Jim
I enjoy this blog very much.How do I go about changing the name that appears when you post a message,I am very green to blogging and typed my full name .Is there any way to change this?
Thanks


Re: Instructions needed

Kathy <beadqueen@...>
 

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, Susan L Smith wrote:

I have a denim shirt I want to embellish with embroidery but no idea how to
go about doing it. Placement and alignment is the problem for me (it's not
easy being a perfectionist!). Because of my extremely slow internet
service, I'm unable to watch videos. Do you know of any blogs or ? that
would offer this information?

Thank you,
SusanSmith
Embroidery Library as a very large area devoted to embroidery placement and working on various fabrics. Plus it's not a video, you just read it the old fashioned way :)


Re: MEMBERSHIP

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Start by going to the Yahoo Groups page: http://groups.yahoo.com Log in if necessary.
Now click the drop down arrow after your name in the top left corner. Choose "Account Info" from the menu. On the next page scroll down to "Account Settings" and click "Manage your Yahoo! aliases". Create an alias that you want to use instead of your name. It's not clear whether this will work in the Groups pages or not. If it doesn't, then you'll have to create a new Yahoo ID and re-join your groups with that.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "lindabeaulieu863" wrote:

Hi Jim
I enjoy this blog very much.How do I go about changing the name that appears when you post a message,I am very green to blogging and typed my full name .Is there any way to change this?
Thanks


Instructions needed

Susan L Smith <quiltingsusan@...>
 

I have a denim shirt I want to embellish with embroidery but no idea how to go about doing it.  Placement and alignment is the problem for me (it's not easy being a perfectionist!).  Because of my extremely slow internet service, I'm unable to watch videos.  Do you know of any blogs or ? that would offer this information?

Thank you,

SusanSmith


MEMBERSHIP

lindabeaulieu863
 

Hi Jim
I enjoy this blog very much.How do I go about changing the name that appears when you post a message,I am very green to blogging and typed my full name .Is there any way to change this?
Thanks


Re: proper foot error message- My Solution

j2291us <STICHER98@...>
 

After reading some of the other posts I took the throat plate off, removed the bobbin, etc. and cleaned the dust and fuzzies out (there wasn't much). I was careful replacing everything and the machine has been working great. So maybe it was the fuzzies or the plate off center but I am glad she has stopped beeping and stopping every few stitches. Thanks for all of your helpful suggestions
Jane

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "janetpiekarski" wrote:

I think that it's the throat plate realizing it has or hasn't been switched. I think that micro switch that senses the plates is very fragile and if you change the plate and press it in off center, maybe it puts the switch off center...

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "j2291us" wrote:

The last 3 days when I have been sewing after about 15 minutes I get a warning "Please make sure the proper foot is attached". >