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Re: 12000/what to keep

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Janome wouldn't allow it??? That's ridiculous, on two counts:

1. None of the new 9mm accessory feet are available yet.

2. Using the 11000 foot holder the existing 7mm feet fit perfectly, even the 1/4".

The only risk from using those feet would be to try to use them with a 9mm stitch. But that's a risk we've always had, for example not using the 1/4" foot with a zigzag stitch. I'm pretty sure that Janome doesn't have any hidden cameras in the machine that will detect what feet you are using. Don't post pictures of you using the feet to Facebook and you should be fine!

If your dealer is going to play the "We know what's best for you" card you can always order the foot holder online from Brubaker's: www.brubakersewing.com
Talk to Amy, explain that you heard about it on Yahoo, and maybe even get a discount.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, songnbird@... wrote:

Hi Jim,
I asked my dealer to order an 11K ankle for me , so I could use all my
extra feet and she said that Janome wouldn't allow it. Hmmmmmm! I really love
some of those feet that I purchased separately; what do you suggest?

Linda B


Re: 12000 or keep 11000 question

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Wow, Gloria, the DVD *AND* the app? You're our hero, thanks so much!

I understand your dilemma. The 11000SE is a very capable machine, and so is the 7700. The 12000 is a merging of both of them, with big improvements in both the sewing and embroidery parts. On the embroidery side you have bigger hoops, higher speed, and a bit more stability. Sewing-wise you have the option of 9mm stitch width against your current 7mm. Even if you never use the 9mm, the arrangement of the feed dogs is such that things just work a little better. For example, the 1/4" foot has a guide that hits the feed dogs in just about every Janome model, but on the 12000 it's in between them. That's going to make it much easier to get a perfect 1/4 or scant 1/4. Lighting is amazing on the 12000, and the automatic presser foot control is also very impressive.

It's a shame you have to go so far to see it, because you really can't make a decision without actually sewing on the machine. I would suggest you make a day of it. Call the dealer ahead and make an appointment. If you think you might want to trade in your existing machines, pack them up to prepare (but don't mention that when you call - ask instead if you decide to buy, AFTER you have a quoted price). Take test fabrics with you. If you're a quilter, take a dozen squares. Make it clear when you call that you are going to need at least an hour on the machine, and make sure that someone who knows the machine will be there when you come. Ultimately no one but you can know if it's the right machine for you, but after a good test drive you'll know!

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "seamgood" <seamgood@...> wrote:

Good morning.
I own the 11000 SE...got it brand new about a year ago and have only used it a handful of times...family life got in the way of my sew time. The end of the summer this year, I bought the 7700. Again, have used 3 times for hemming pants and family life in the way again.
I am considering the 12000 but really don't know what it does more than the 11000. I don't have a dealer near me. Would have to travel almost 2 hours to just see it. Can someone tell me what the 12000 does that the 11000 doesn't? Thank you so much. I do enjoy reading all your posts. Hopefully I can make a very educated decision in the very near future.
And Jim, I did buy your CD and the Apple App for my phone of the foot book. I love them both!!! Well worth the money. Very well done. Thank you!
Sincerely,
Gloria


Re: 12000 or keep 11000 question

Patricia Ward
 

Gloria, I had the same machine set up... the 11000 and the 7700. I traded in the 7700 because with the 12000 you have the 7700 but with the added embroidery feature.  I kept my 11000 because I do like the machine and I had upgraded it to ver 3 so figured, I would keep it to use and I am glad I did. 
The 12000 has great features for quilting and of course all of that space on it for FMQ.  I have not used the embroidery yet but I am really enjoying sewing with it. It is powerful, quiet and fast.  I love the 9mm feature. 

So basically  think of the 12000 as a very advanced machine that incorporates all of the 7700 features into it but adds the new features of the larger embroidery, the direct link to Horizon Link on your computer and fast and more quiet as extras.  I can't believe how quiet it is, really. 

And there are added quilting features that the 7700 didn't have.... the choice of a stitch for a 1/4 seam or a scant 1/4 seam; the sensor to automatically set the height of your FM foot and you don't have to turn the little screw to adjust the foot to glide across your fabric.
I am sure there are features that I forgot to mention; someone else I am sure will have more to tell you.

I am one hour from my dealer but went to the launch on Oct 1.  If you have a good dealer, the drive is well worth it. 

Pat


Re: Rotary Even Foot

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

Actually it vey well might. It's a snap-on foot so you would need a 7mm foot holder, as we've posted here before. I'll have Diane try it today and report back. That's actually a very useful foot, as we discovered when making FootBook. In the demo video she used it to put a rolled hem in Minkee, something that would be impossible with the regular rolled hem foot.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "Julie" <jjems@...> wrote:

Question about this "kit" - don't guess it's going to work with the 12000
machine either, is it? I've never had it open or used it.



Julie


Re: 12000/what to keep

robin_zelonis <robin@...>
 

Linda.
I would keep all the extra feet and just call another Janome dealer and order a high shank ankle. We stock high and low shank ankles all the time. Just another thing our customers misplace and need. You just have to remember 7mm opening for olf feet not 9mm.
Robin in Maine.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, songnbird@... wrote:

Hi Jim,
I asked my dealer to order an 11K ankle for me , so I could use all my
extra feet and she said that Janome wouldn't allow it. Hmmmmmm! I really love
some of those feet that I purchased separately; what do you suggest?

Linda B


Re: 12000/what to keep

songnbird
 

Hi Jim,
I asked my dealer to order an 11K ankle for me , so I could use all my extra feet and she said that Janome wouldn't allow it. Hmmmmmm! I really love some of those feet that I purchased separately; what do you suggest?
 
Linda B


12000 or keep 11000 question

seamgood <seamgood@...>
 

Good morning.
I own the 11000 SE...got it brand new about a year ago and have only used it a handful of times...family life got in the way of my sew time. The end of the summer this year, I bought the 7700. Again, have used 3 times for hemming pants and family life in the way again.
I am considering the 12000 but really don't know what it does more than the 11000. I don't have a dealer near me. Would have to travel almost 2 hours to just see it. Can someone tell me what the 12000 does that the 11000 doesn't? Thank you so much. I do enjoy reading all your posts. Hopefully I can make a very educated decision in the very near future.
And Jim, I did buy your CD and the Apple App for my phone of the foot book. I love them both!!! Well worth the money. Very well done. Thank you!
Sincerely,
Gloria


Re: Picked up my 12000 today

grandma
 

Can you take a picture of it for us?

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "kkrissyb" <krissy.b@...> wrote:

Whooopeeeeeeeee!!!! Picked up my 12000 today!! It is still in the box as I am going to watch the instruction video quite a few times before I get it out of the box.

I use a lot of metallic thread and have little thing one of the dealers made. It is a vertical spindle set on a rotating disk, the metallic thread comes off the spool sideways and goes through a hole cut in a piece of wood that is also on the stand that holds the vertical spindle and disk. This makes the metallic thread come off the cone sideways and stay coming off sideways for approx 15cm and it rarely ever tangles..........hope this is clearer than mud
Kris in Australia


Picked up my 12000 today

kkrissyb <krissy.b@...>
 

Whooopeeeeeeeee!!!! Picked up my 12000 today!! It is still in the box as I am going to watch the instruction video quite a few times before I get it out of the box.

I use a lot of metallic thread and have little thing one of the dealers made. It is a vertical spindle set on a rotating disk, the metallic thread comes off the spool sideways and goes through a hole cut in a piece of wood that is also on the stand that holds the vertical spindle and disk. This makes the metallic thread come off the cone sideways and stay coming off sideways for approx 15cm and it rarely ever tangles..........hope this is clearer than mud
Kris in Australia


Rotary Even Foot

Julie
 

Question about this “kit” – don’t guess it’s going to work with the 12000 machine either, is it?  I’ve never had it open or used it.

 

Julie


Re: 12000/what to keep

meowmie <meowmie@...>
 

Sell the extra items separately from what was standard with the 11000 - that way you can recoup a bit more of your money.

From: thistlebug
To: janome12000@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:08 PM
Subject: [janome12000] 12000/what to keep

 
I am selling my 11000S and want to know what hoops and feet that I purchased separately should I keep for the 12000? I will keep the CD player but in hopes that I will be able to use it in the future but, will give the clothsetter up with the machine. Peg in FL




Re: 12000/what to keep

Jo Lynch <jolynch12@...>
 

Jim, very interesting I have  extra feet on my 11.000, which I have kept, so I will ask my dealer to get me an 11,000 foot holder
Thank you
Jo
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:06 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: 12000/what to keep

 

The feet that came with your 11000SE will be listed in the front of the instruction book. Those should go with the machine. Any snap-on feet that you have can still be used as long as you buy an 11000 foot holder to snap them onto. None of the hoops will work, and as you noted, neither will the Clothsetter. Do keep the CD drive, as it should be usable after an upcoming update.

--- In janome12000@..., "thistlebug" wrote:
>
> I am selling my 11000S and want to know what hoops and feet that I purchased separately should I keep for the 12000? I will keep the CD player but in hopes that I will be able to use it in the future but, will give the clothsetter up with the machine. Peg in FL
>


Re: Metallic threads

Jo Lynch <jolynch12@...>
 

Certainly did not think of that Maggie
Jo
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:46 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Metallic threads

 


Thank you Jim, since reading your reply I have put a new Christmas design in not used any spray on a new spool of thread, still no problem with a size 11 needle & it is stitching at 1,000SPMI am also using the GR hoop, must be the Australian luck Will remember what you have said though
Thank you
Jo
As a newby to the group I should really apologise for this, but I have to say it, Australian luck? no flower, its coz your upside down in Australia, so your thread has to climb uphill, LOL. Sorry Jo I just couldn't resist it. 
Maggie in England which is  the tother side of world to Australia. 


Re: Metallic threads

maggie cooper
 


Thank you Jim, since reading your reply I have put a new Christmas design in not used any spray on a new spool of thread, still no problem with a size 11 needle & it is stitching at 1,000SPMI am also using the GR hoop, must be the Australian luck Will remember what you have said though
Thank you
Jo
As a newby to the group I should really apologise for this, but I have to say it, Australian luck? no flower, its coz your upside down in Australia, so your thread has to climb uphill, LOL. Sorry Jo I just couldn't resist it. 
Maggie in England which is  the tother side of world to Australia. 


Re: 12000/what to keep

Jim_Stutsman <jim@...>
 

The feet that came with your 11000SE will be listed in the front of the instruction book. Those should go with the machine. Any snap-on feet that you have can still be used as long as you buy an 11000 foot holder to snap them onto. None of the hoops will work, and as you noted, neither will the Clothsetter. Do keep the CD drive, as it should be usable after an upcoming update.

--- In janome12000@yahoogroups.com, "thistlebug" <pegijane39@...> wrote:

I am selling my 11000S and want to know what hoops and feet that I purchased separately should I keep for the 12000? I will keep the CD player but in hopes that I will be able to use it in the future but, will give the clothsetter up with the machine. Peg in FL


Re: 12000/what to keep

Jo Lynch <jolynch12@...>
 

Peg, the feet for your 11,000 are 7mm & all the new feet in the 12,000 are 9mm so no use to you nor are your exta hoops
Jo
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: thistlebug
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: [janome12000] 12000/what to keep

 

I am selling my 11000S and want to know what hoops and feet that I purchased separately should I keep for the 12000? I will keep the CD player but in hopes that I will be able to use it in the future but, will give the clothsetter up with the machine. Peg in FL


12000/what to keep

thistlebug <pegijane39@...>
 

I am selling my 11000S and want to know what hoops and feet that I purchased separately should I keep for the 12000? I will keep the CD player but in hopes that I will be able to use it in the future but, will give the clothsetter up with the machine. Peg in FL


Re: Metallic threads

Jo Lynch <jolynch12@...>
 

Thank you Jim, since reading  your reply I have put a new Christmas design in not used any spray on a new spool of thread, still no problem  with a size 11 needle & it is stitching at 1,000SPMI am also using the GR hoop, must be the Australian luck   Will remember what you have said though
Thank you
Jo
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:58 AM
Subject: [janome12000] Re: Metallic threads

 

Be careful about spraying silicone on thread BEFORE it goes through the tension. Over time the thread can carry the silicone onto the tension disks, where it can build up and begin reducing tension. It's better to apply after it comes out of the tension. There are some after-market products that are tiny sponges which stick to the machine in the thread path. You apply the silicone to the sponge. We've never found it necessary to lubricate the thread though. Using a topstitch size 14 needle is a big help.

As for taking to the roof, remember one has to suffer for one's art!

--- In janome12000@..., "Jo Lynch" wrote:
>
> I have not had any problems with Metalic thread on this machine. I give a puff of Silicone on the cone & just feed though the normal thread stand ---- this certainly was not the case with the 10 & 11. Jim I could not see myself climbing on the roof!!!!
> Cheers
> Jo


Re: Metallic threads

vicki chrobak
 

Maybe they were women in a former life.

--
Vicki Jo


Re: # of stitches in design

vicki chrobak
 

I did one with 44!!!! thread changes yesterday. Talk about a worn out puppy.

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Vicki Jo