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Re: New Member

SewingRose
 

Currently I own a Janome 500E and also a Janome 9450 which means I can continue sewing while the 500E is doing her thing and producing great embroidery, I have owned combo (sewing/embroidery) machines in the past but much prefer separate machines.  I notice you own Bernina software and actually I use Bernina software (free version) even though I've never owned a Bernina embroidery machine.  While I've owned various embroidery machines since 2001, they have all been Janome.

Not sure if you are aware that the 500E has been superseded by the 550E, so if you go to the Janome.com website there is a chart where you can compare both machines and decide if the few upgraded features are worth the extra cost to you.  Some dealers include additional bonuses and some countries include different hoops...mine only came with two hoops but the dealer was giving a discount on the other three hoops if they were purchased at the same time and I knew from past experience I would want them at sometime so went ahead. 

You can download the owner's manual at the Janome.com site as well as YouTube videos posted by Janome. 

Hope some of this helps?  good luck with your decision, but I doubt you would have any regrets with either machine.


help with decision

mah_jongg
 

Thinking about buying a KamSnap press. Looking for tips/opinions on which one to get. Can not decide which one would be the best and easiest to use. The KXJ8 (handheld) or KX-T2 (mini tabletop). Will be for fun and occasional use.  Any and all help would be appreciated.

thanks,
mahjongg


Re: New Member

Ceil J
 

Lorrie,
I have the 15000 and do love it but if I had it to do over again, I would buy two separate machines.  I think there is a 550e with a super large hoop.  It's a tough decision! (I'd also get the Continental M7 but it seems you don't need a 4th machine!)
Welcome,
Ceil


On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 8:08 PM Ann Jones via groups.io <anahita2868=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Good morning Lorrie

  I have the Janome 9450 and decided to keep the two functions separate by getting the 500E. Friends in my embroidery group have the 1500. I believe I have the best of the two worlds as it allows me to operate both machines without compromise.. 
The onboard editing works just fine for what I need. Hatch has its start up module that may interest you. Look at John Deer site.
There are others but I have not needed to use any outside of the machine as yet so cannot truly advise.
I like the embroidery finish of my 500E. The 550E has some tweeks but I can see no reason to upgrade to gain those.
Good luck with your decision.
Ann in Au




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On Sunday, 25 July 2021, 9:01:35 AM ACST, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc=netscape.net@groups.io> wrote:


Hi, Lorrie!  So nice of you to join. I hope you feel welcomed here. This is a great group. The owner of this group is very knowledgeable and there are many members who are very knowledgeable as well. I joined some Janome (and other) groups when I was looking at machines, too. There is nothing like owner experience, provided the machine features, specs, price, warranty, etc., meet your expectations as well. 

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you a thing about the 500e because I have an 11000 and a 15000.  What I know about the 500e is from reading and hearing friends who own them talk about them.   I do find Janome machines to be excellent, and I have a 100-stitch, computerized Kenmore that was made by Janome that I bought in January 1994, and it still works great…so that is a good part of my belief that Janome makes a great machine.  In my experience, they sew great and are quiet.  I also have a Pfaff 10-thread coverlocker, and have owned other brands of sewing machines, so I buy for features/specs/reliability/needs/costs, etc…not for brand loyalty specifically/exclusively. 

In the event that you do find you need additional software, depending on what you need, there are some that are ‘modular’ software packages so you do not have to purchase more than you need.  Also, there are inexpensive software packages, and even free ones. 

I assume you may have found a 500e nearby, but you mentioned the 15000, and it’s higher price, so  I don’t know if you’re set on the 500e for other reasons too, or pining the inability to purchase a 15000 due to the higher cost, but I thought I would mention that Ken’s Sewing Center (online but physically in AL) is hosting their ‘left in layaway’ sale starting 7/26/21.  You would need to call to find out what machines customers have opted not to complete their layaway purchases and so are available and the costs, but I do have friends who have purchased machines from Ken’s. Just a thought…they are a Janome dealer but not necessarily local to you…not local to me (FL) or my friends either. lol   I have purchased many things from them…just not machines so far. 

Buying a new machine is an adventure…one which I hope you will enjoy!  

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 


Re: New Member

Ann Jones
 

Good morning Lorrie

  I have the Janome 9450 and decided to keep the two functions separate by getting the 500E. Friends in my embroidery group have the 1500. I believe I have the best of the two worlds as it allows me to operate both machines without compromise.. 
The onboard editing works just fine for what I need. Hatch has its start up module that may interest you. Look at John Deer site.
There are others but I have not needed to use any outside of the machine as yet so cannot truly advise.
I like the embroidery finish of my 500E. The 550E has some tweeks but I can see no reason to upgrade to gain those.
Good luck with your decision.
Ann in Au




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On Sunday, 25 July 2021, 9:01:35 AM ACST, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:


Hi, Lorrie!  So nice of you to join. I hope you feel welcomed here. This is a great group. The owner of this group is very knowledgeable and there are many members who are very knowledgeable as well. I joined some Janome (and other) groups when I was looking at machines, too. There is nothing like owner experience, provided the machine features, specs, price, warranty, etc., meet your expectations as well. 

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you a thing about the 500e because I have an 11000 and a 15000.  What I know about the 500e is from reading and hearing friends who own them talk about them.   I do find Janome machines to be excellent, and I have a 100-stitch, computerized Kenmore that was made by Janome that I bought in January 1994, and it still works great…so that is a good part of my belief that Janome makes a great machine.  In my experience, they sew great and are quiet.  I also have a Pfaff 10-thread coverlocker, and have owned other brands of sewing machines, so I buy for features/specs/reliability/needs/costs, etc…not for brand loyalty specifically/exclusively. 

In the event that you do find you need additional software, depending on what you need, there are some that are ‘modular’ software packages so you do not have to purchase more than you need.  Also, there are inexpensive software packages, and even free ones. 

I assume you may have found a 500e nearby, but you mentioned the 15000, and it’s higher price, so  I don’t know if you’re set on the 500e for other reasons too, or pining the inability to purchase a 15000 due to the higher cost, but I thought I would mention that Ken’s Sewing Center (online but physically in AL) is hosting their ‘left in layaway’ sale starting 7/26/21.  You would need to call to find out what machines customers have opted not to complete their layaway purchases and so are available and the costs, but I do have friends who have purchased machines from Ken’s. Just a thought…they are a Janome dealer but not necessarily local to you…not local to me (FL) or my friends either. lol   I have purchased many things from them…just not machines so far. 

Buying a new machine is an adventure…one which I hope you will enjoy!  

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 


Re: New Member

Cat - N
 

Hi, Lorrie!  So nice of you to join. I hope you feel welcomed here. This is a great group. The owner of this group is very knowledgeable and there are many members who are very knowledgeable as well. I joined some Janome (and other) groups when I was looking at machines, too. There is nothing like owner experience, provided the machine features, specs, price, warranty, etc., meet your expectations as well. 

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you a thing about the 500e because I have an 11000 and a 15000.  What I know about the 500e is from reading and hearing friends who own them talk about them.   I do find Janome machines to be excellent, and I have a 100-stitch, computerized Kenmore that was made by Janome that I bought in January 1994, and it still works great…so that is a good part of my belief that Janome makes a great machine.  In my experience, they sew great and are quiet.  I also have a Pfaff 10-thread coverlocker, and have owned other brands of sewing machines, so I buy for features/specs/reliability/needs/costs, etc…not for brand loyalty specifically/exclusively. 

In the event that you do find you need additional software, depending on what you need, there are some that are ‘modular’ software packages so you do not have to purchase more than you need.  Also, there are inexpensive software packages, and even free ones. 

I assume you may have found a 500e nearby, but you mentioned the 15000, and it’s higher price, so  I don’t know if you’re set on the 500e for other reasons too, or pining the inability to purchase a 15000 due to the higher cost, but I thought I would mention that Ken’s Sewing Center (online but physically in AL) is hosting their ‘left in layaway’ sale starting 7/26/21.  You would need to call to find out what machines customers have opted not to complete their layaway purchases and so are available and the costs, but I do have friends who have purchased machines from Ken’s. Just a thought…they are a Janome dealer but not necessarily local to you…not local to me (FL) or my friends either. lol   I have purchased many things from them…just not machines so far. 

Buying a new machine is an adventure…one which I hope you will enjoy!  

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 


New Member

katz11west
 

Good morning to all.  Thanks for letting me join.  I do not currently own a Janome, hence my reason for joining your group.  I am thinking about purchasing a 500E embroidery only machine.
My current machines are Viking Designer 1, and Bernina 180. I have never owned a Janome and have seen a few of the MC 15000 for sale locally.  They still have a hefty price tag of around $5,000.  I would like to stay under $3,000.00
I like the 500E .  One of the features is onboard editing.  I do own some older Bernina software that has some editing features, just alot of steps to accomplish removing or adding to a design.
Any advice will be much appreciated.  

Lorrie K.


Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Kathy Strabel
 

Roberta---Well,  that is not very encouraging. I was thinking I would replace all my generic, pre-wound bobbins out for only Janome branded ones and wind them a bit slower and it would probably improve this issue. But your experience says different.Still, after closely examining a bunch of the generic pre-wounds I have in my possession, I have decided to order some Janome "J" bobbins and a cone of 40 wt bobbin thread. For a start.  The rest of my decision will be coming after I have been stitching for a while with the Janome bobbins and not pre-wound.  There ore so many variables with embroidery!!!
kathy Strabel   Camas WA


On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 8:04 AM Roberta K via groups.io <robkon94=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Kathy and everybody, 

Is it possible that you are ordering the wrong part number? Just a thought. 

I have had the same issue with the bouncing bobbin, but I then realized that I was using generic bobbins rather than Janome. That improved things a lot.

Also, could there be a problem with the bobbin winder tension? 
I have also noticed that sometimes, with Janome prewound bobbins, the bobbins are not wound properly, which changes the tension on the thread. Even with winding my own bobbins, I have noticed that the same thing can happen.

Roberta in FL



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Have a good one!
Kathy Strabel





Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

sharynn
 

Thank you for sharing!


On Jul 22, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:


Here is a photo of the teeny tiny bobbin thread tail that I find on Janome prewound bobbins that causes my 15000 to make bobbin noise.  The thread tail is really hard to see in the image where I was cutting it with the tiny point scissors, but the points of the scissor blade points are at the base of the thread next to bulk of bobbin thread.  I looked carefully at this thread when I saw it today.  This is the leading end of bobbin thread from the spool that was threaded into the bobbin just before the bobbin was wound...not a random thread...I just never see it after trimming it because it just pulls out when the bobbin runs out  It only seems to cause noise when it hangs outside the physical area of the bobbin.  It was purely accidental that the bobbin I am sewing with today showed this teeny tine thread end.

- Cat (FL)


-----Original Message-----
From: Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...>
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2021 10:48 am

You might look carefully at a noisy bobbin or one that gets noisy for no apparent reason, especially prewound, to make sure there isn’t teeny tiny thread end sticking out anywhere. I only buy Janome prewounds, which have worked well for me, but for some reason, I have found several having a teeny tiny thread sticking out partway through the bobbin thread being used up and usually near top or bottom of the bobbin.  It’s not a thread end, meaning that it’s not a new, separate length of thread or that it signifies a break in the continuous bobbin thread, so I don’t understand where they come from…guessing it’s some stray bit from a previous bobbin that was wound on the same winder…but even if the thread is so teeny tiny that it looks ‘harmless’ enough not to worry about, I trim it as far back toward the bobbin as possible with tiny pointed scissors and the noisy bobbin sound goes away…at least so far it has. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 


Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Cat - N
 


Cheryl, I am going to date myself...LOL  I learned to sew on a Singer treadle machine (actually 3) back when I was a literal toddler, so I don't even remember learning how to sew...just remember growing up sewing from a very, very young age, and designing and making my own clothes, patterns, etc. well into adulthood when I ran out of time in my day due to my sons' schedules and quit sewing for a time.  I am 67 now, so I have definitely wound a good share of bobbins, different kinds and shapes of bobbins with different kinds of winders...many different machines, including Kenmore made by Janome.  I didn't own a machine with anything but a straight (forward) stitch until the late 1970's. 

The bobbins I wind/have wound do not ever have a thread hanging off from initially threading the bobbin, but the Janome prewound bobbins actually are wound so full that the thread from winding the bobbin initially actually sticks out beyond the bobbin and the tiny thread that sticks out is unseen until part of the thread has been sewn and left the bobbin, and when that happens...when the little thread sticks out, the bobbin gets angry and starts yelling at me.  LOL  My bobbins are always wound to just inside the outer circumference of the physical plastic bobbin. 

I do mean the thread is 'fat' around the spindle on the prewound bobbins...if not held carefully to insert the bobbin into the bobbin case, thread can start to 'spiral' off the bobbin and it's a crazy mess if that happens.  Ask me how I know that...LOL

I prefer the prewound bobbins for my own convenience...not because I lack the ability to wind a proper bobbin...just because I've become lazy enough to enjoy simply opening up a bobbin case, grabbing a prewound bobbin, and sewing again immediately.  I do still wind bobbins, but only for color matching to the fabric/design as needed for sewing and embroidery.

I understand they (the Janome 'winders') cannot cut the initial thread flush with the outer circumference of the actual bobbin...because the thread isn't flush with the outer bobbin edge...it's 'pudgy' and just outside that outer plastic edge.  But, to keep my 15000 sewing without having to wind my own bobbins, I MUST clip that thread off the prewound Janome bobbin.  It's no biggie...I do it automatically without giving it much thought, but I just thought I would tell Kathy about the thread in case that might be a contributing factor to the issue she is having with her 500e.  The little thread doesn't 'look dangerous' but I still trim it off.

I appreciate your kind words...I hope you are having a great weekend.

- Cat


Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Joyce VanAtta <shesews4em@...>
 

I had those problems, too.
Learned to hate my machine and got rid of it!!

Joyce


Re: Thread cutter

Cheryl Paul
 

Hi Gwen,

It sounds like your dealer made a few tweaks to your machine when he serviced it. Look in your settings and see if there is a place where you can add/subtract length of the cut for the thread. As for your thread cutter: there have been so many issues with the thread cutter that the technician might just automatically check it as it might have become very routine for him to do that, even though yours was working fine. I’ve taken my 15000 in many times to have the thread cutter “fixed” and it threaded 10 out of 10 for me and 0 out of 10 for me and that was immediately after I set it back up on my sewing table - “go figure”. Now I try it twice on any machine and if it doesn’t thread then I do the old way and that isn’t always easy as my eyes aren’t what they were when I started my sewing journey 50 some years ago when thread cutters weren’t even on a sewing machine and we were lucky to have a “zig zag” and a few decorative stitches IF we could afford such a machine.

I wouldn’t make a special trip to have those things adjusted but I sure would make it know that “what worked before” isn’t working now and will they honour the fix for “FREE” if you bring it in when it is convenient to you.

Cheryl - Saskatoon


Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Cheryl Paul
 

Oh! And PLEASE don’t throw your machine “out the window” - it’s too pretty for that.

Cheryl - Saskatoon


Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Cheryl Paul
 

Cat, A tiny bit of thread ALWAYS remains when you wind a bobbin. It is impossible to not have this IF one follows the exact directions of winding a bobbin and now there are 2 ways. On the new machines, in the videos I have you wind the thread on the bobbin counter clockwise and use the cutter blade under the bobbin to cut the excess thread off, or the old way of putting the thread through the little hole on the top of the bobbin, winding several rounds and cutting it off with a good small scissors. Either way there is always a wee bit of thread poking out. I try to cut it off as close as possible and that works for me. Maybe my many machines in the past 35+ years have just been good to me as I’ve not had problems. When I did have problems was if I didn’t remember to cut the thread and that was with my 11000 - don’t know what the memory lapse was there but …

Lynn, I don’t know if you are aware but the new Continental M7 has a yellow bobbin case and it is very different from the “yellow dot” for embroidery on the 15000, S9 and a few other embroidery machines made by Janome. It doesn’t have that little metal part on the top and has a hole through the side for a light to check for the remaining thread on the bobbin. If you by change got those bobbin cases, that might be the issue. You’ll have to check the part numbers on the Janome website. I can see why you would be confused as all your other bobbin cases seem to work just fine. I’m sure that from time to time a “bad batch” do get out for sale. I was told by our former Janome Educator who has been through the factory many times in Japan that there are very stringent controls and checks made before things leave the factory, but small parts may not get the same checks that the machines do.

I hope everything on this particular thread gets solved soon, as we seem to have tried almost everything imaginable to get us all up and running and happy again.

Cheryl - Saskatoon


Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Kathy Skagen <kagen48@...>
 

 
 I have noticed that occasionally the bobbin winds to the bottom and then somehow goes to the top and then evens out to a more consistent wind.  
 
Lyn,
I have noticed the bobbin winding this way on my MC10001. That is the way it always winds and I feel like that will affect the way the bobbin lets out thread or maybe the tension. I just lightly hold the thread just in front of the bobbin as the machine winds it and move it up and down as evenly as I can to wind the bobbin evenly. You might try that to see if it makes any difference. I do not have the issues described here but my machine is totally different so that may be why. 
I hope you and Kathy can figure out what is causing the bobbin to bounce around.
Kathy 


Thread cutter

William D Lawson
 

Well, I got my machine back from my dealer.  I took it in to be cleaned and checked out. I was not having any issues with it at all.  Just thought it needed a spa day.

Now when I use the thread cutter, the thread cuts so short that the needle comes unthreaded every time!  I did notice that the thread is very taut and it stretches out when cut and snaps up to unthread the needle. What do I do?  Should I loosen the top thread so the needle stays threaded? Or just not use it.   I never had this problem before. I loved my thread cutter.  I did retread the machine but it didn’t make a difference.

He also said he adjusted my needle threader. There was nothing wrong with my needle threader.  It was working just fine. Now it gets caught just a little bit while threading and makes a little click. 


My dealer is an hour away so I don’t want to make that trip if it is not necessary.  Thanks in advance for all your assistance,  
‘Gwen Lawson. 


Re: Assistance

Jim Stutsman
 

You might be new to this group. You don’t have to ask permission to ask a question - just ask! We have lots of people that love to help.


Assistance

COLETTE VANNIMAN
 

Hope all is well?

May i ask you a favor?

Thanks,

COLETTE VAN NIMAN


Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Cat - N
 

Here is a photo of the teeny tiny bobbin thread tail that I find on Janome prewound bobbins that causes my 15000 to make bobbin noise.  The thread tail is really hard to see in the image where I was cutting it with the tiny point scissors, but the points of the scissor blade points are at the base of the thread next to bulk of bobbin thread.  I looked carefully at this thread when I saw it today.  This is the leading end of bobbin thread from the spool that was threaded into the bobbin just before the bobbin was wound...not a random thread...I just never see it after trimming it because it just pulls out when the bobbin runs out.  It only seems to cause noise when it hangs outside the physical area of the bobbin.  It was purely accidental that the bobbin I am sewing with today showed this teeny tine thread end.

- Cat (FL)


-----Original Message-----
From: Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...>
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2021 10:48 am

You might look carefully at a noisy bobbin or one that gets noisy for no apparent reason, especially prewound, to make sure there isn’t teeny tiny thread end sticking out anywhere. I only buy Janome prewounds, which have worked well for me, but for some reason, I have found several having a teeny tiny thread sticking out partway through the bobbin thread being used up and usually near top or bottom of the bobbin.  It’s not a thread end, meaning that it’s not a new, separate length of thread or that it signifies a break in the continuous bobbin thread, so I don’t understand where they come from…guessing it’s some stray bit from a previous bobbin that was wound on the same winder…but even if the thread is so teeny tiny that it looks ‘harmless’ enough not to worry about, I trim it as far back toward the bobbin as possible with tiny pointed scissors and the noisy bobbin sound goes away…at least so far it has. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 
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Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Suzanne Martin
 

Amen!

 

Thank you!

Suzanne Martin, Broker, GRI

MPI Realty

(407) 234-6906

Suzmar45@...

 

 

From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ceil J
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 3:08 PM
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] About to toss this machine out the window!

 

This has been an interesting and informative topic to follow.

I bought the pink and blue sets of bobbins and notice that the blue ones don't have the "J".  I bought them from the same place and they are supposed to be Janome bobbins.  Wondering if the pink ones were made for embroidery while the blue ones were not, if the blue ones are somehow fakes (seems unlikely), or what is the reason for this.  After reading all that is posted here, I won't use them for embroidery.  I usually fill the pink bobbins with Bottom Line thread, use Janome prewounds or generic prewound.  So far when I've had issues with embroidery I haven't usually been to point to a specific bobbin as the cause.  There are so many variables.

When I thread my machine I always have the door open and when I clean the bobbin ares and reseat my bobbin case I always give it a wiggle to ensure that it's sitting correctly.  This usually serves me well but I have not been problem free. At times everything seems perfect and yet there's a bird's nest.

Recently I became convinced that there was a digitizing issue with one design as it would not do a corner section correctly.  I stitched out just that area on a test piece and it was perfect. After examining the ruined area I determined that there was a flaw in the Warm and Natural plush batting that I was using that likely caused the problem.  Most of the time, problems remain a mystery to me.


Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Lyn Quine
 

Jim I take your point about the race, I’ll make sure to check it again carefully.  I had the needle strike back in December, filed it immediately, checked for any damage.  Had no further problems until I installed the new bobbin case.  I have used the red case, and the blue case since as well, no problems, only the new yellow dot cases.  I put the old yellow dot back and again no problems.  If it was the race surely I would still have problems with any of the cases not just the new ones.  I’m wondering if there was a bad batch made.  


On 22 Jul 2021, at 17:03, Lyn Quine <lynquine@...> wrote:

 My 15000 is an upgraded V2 to V3, and requires a different bobbin case to a V3 Quiltmaker.  This is what Janome told me when I queried the noise in my new bobbin cases.  They said I had probably been given the wrong part number, but the same part number was sent by Janome with the same rattle.


On 22 Jul 2021, at 15:48, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:


You might look carefully at a noisy bobbin or one that gets noisy for no apparent reason, especially prewound, to make sure there isn’t teeny tiny thread end sticking out anywhere. I only buy Janome prewounds, which have worked well for me, but for some reason, I have found several having a teeny tiny thread sticking out partway through the bobbin thread being used up and usually near top or bottom of the bobbin.  It’s not a thread end, meaning that it’s not a new, separate length of thread or that it signifies a break in the continuous bobbin thread, so I don’t understand where they come from…guessing it’s some stray bit from a previous bobbin that was wound on the same winder…but even if the thread is so teeny tiny that it looks ‘harmless’ enough not to worry about, I trim it as far back toward the bobbin as possible with tiny pointed scissors and the noisy bobbin sound goes away…at least so far it has. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 

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