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Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Kathy Strabel
 

Jim--Thank you for your sage suggestions. I have done some more sleuthing, and compared the bobbins I am using. I usually use pre-wounds. Inspecting some of the pre-wound bobbins, I see some of them have tiny burrs in different places. Next I looked at a Janome branded, empty, new bobbin, and see it is much smoother and maybe made of a better grade of plastic. The Janome bobbin is clearer, the pre-wound one is slightly cloudy. So, my next thing was to wind my own Janome branded bobbin and do a test stitchout. I chose a one-color design with 9,500 stitches. The machine ran much more smoothly, and the bobbin was not jumping and spinning. But at about stitch number 5,100, the noise started up again, and I could hear the spinning and jumping, and increased noise.

  I do not see any crack or other flaws in the white plastic bottom of the hook race, cannot feel or see any burrs, or other flaws on the other pieces and places you described.  What would make this problem go away so temporarily and why does it come back? 

Would it be a judicious move to simply replace the entire race and the holder? The dealer did switch out the bobbin holder in March of this year. But it appears that the holder is a generic part. It does not have any Janome markings or any part number on it. Would not that information be on the part if it were a genuine Janome part?

I think I will ditch my remaining pre-wound bobbins and start winding my own on Janome branded ones. But that seems to solve only half of the problem.

Patiently awaiting your response,
Kathy Strabel   Camas WA


Re: 500e Broken thread massage

Lyn Quine
 

My husband always used to moan that there was a sock gnome in the house stealing socks leaving a drawer full of odds.  Always said I was in league with said sock gnome.  Then one day I looked in the bin, and there was half a dozen odd socks she’d thrown out because, they had holes in them………l. He hasn’t moaned since I pointed out that throwing away one of a pair leaves odd ones.  He grinned!  He then started buying all black socks so that he could easily find a pair.  Personally I think wearing odd socks is good, my feet were always colourful.  Odd socks never bothered me, even going through airport security, always brought a smile to security guards face whilst my shoes were scanned!  Oh they were the days, when travel was easier.

 

On 16 Jul 2021, at 23:18, Cat - N via groups.io <navillusc@...> wrote:

 
I’ve never lost items in my laundry machines either. Repair tech said years ago that they can float over the inner drum and into the outer drum, and down the drain or maybe create a clog.  Dryer issue was they could get into the filter area.  My first washer was very good about water level, and etc., so nothing ever went out of the inner drum, and my current one is front loader so doesn’t do that. No repairs from clogs like that either.  My dryers never had clearance for socks to get into filter area so no issues there either. Luck, perhaps, but probably just in buying machines that didn’t have ‘black holes’ for laundry to disappear into.  No way to tell until you use them I suppose. 

- Cat
 
Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 
 
 


Re: About to toss this machine out the window!

Jim Stutsman
 

The infamous "bouncing bobbin" is almost always due to the thread catching on a burr with every stitch. This could be a burr in the hook race (worst case), the plastic "base" under the bobbin case, or even the hole in the needle plate that the needle goes through, or the hole the needle goes through in the presser foot. Unless a technician checks all of these, the machine can be deemed operational and returned. In the case of a hook race (metal "basket" the bobbin case sits in), a little oil may mask it for a time, though the oil will find its way into the thread of the stitching. Remove the presser foot, needle plate, and bobbin case. Check all 3 for any sign of nicks, scratches, or roughness that a thread would catch on. Look at the white plastic piece in the bottom of the hook race. Scratches or gouges will grab the thread. Finally using a strong light and magnification to inspect the edges of the hook race. Turn the hand wheel slowly, looking for pits, nicks, gouges, or anything that's not smooth and shiny. Minor damage can be smoothed out by a technician using Janome service part #OILSTONE. Severe damage requires a new hook race. Good luck!


Re: 500e Broken thread massage

Cat - N
 

I’ve never lost items in my laundry machines either. Repair tech said years ago that they can float over the inner drum and into the outer drum, and down the drain or maybe create a clog.  Dryer issue was they could get into the filter area.  My first washer was very good about water level, and etc., so nothing ever went out of the inner drum, and my current one is front loader so doesn’t do that. No repairs from clogs like that either.  My dryers never had clearance for socks to get into filter area so no issues there either. Luck, perhaps, but probably just in buying machines that didn’t have ‘black holes’ for laundry to disappear into.  No way to tell until you use them I suppose. 

- Cat

Typos courtesy of autocorrect. 



On Jul 16, 2021 at 3:00 PM, <a67skc70> wrote:

On Thursday, July 15, 2021, 11:06:31 AM CDT, Kathy Strabel <ksbappa@...> wrote:


Never lost a sock from your washer or dryer??!! Well, you obviously did not go for the optional Singular Sock Sucker upgrade when you bought your appliances!  LOL
Kathy Strabel

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 9:08 AM a67skc70 <a67skc70@...> wrote:
I have never lost a sock in either the washer or the dryer. Actually I have never lost anything. lol
Linda



On Monday, July 5, 2021, 2:37:02 PM CDT, Cheryl Paul <capaul@...> wrote:


Oh! “The Singular Sock Sucker” in the dryer - I’m missing that (at least in recent years), but I have an “Over the Top Thrower” when I empty my dryer.  That one is bad as the dryer is in a tight space and I CAN’T move. it.  I read this post and to also to my husband and he laughed with me.  However, it reminded me of my MISSING sock.  He said, “It must be caught in a sleeve or pant leg.”  I assured him that it was NOT and told him about the “Over the Top Thrower” and he looked and rescued my sock for me.  I’ve got a wonderful man.

The other gremlin “Operatore Proximity Detector” has been in my machines a time or two.  Even the “Babysitter” Acumonitor APP doesn’t always catch those in time, as well as the right machine ie:  15000 or Skyline S9, has to be the machine left with that babysitter, for salvation.  You also need to be within WiFi distance as well.

Cheryl - Saskatoon






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Have a good one!
Kathy Strabel





About to toss this machine out the window!

Kathy Strabel
 

Greetings---Please excuse the outburst, but I am frustrated beyond words!!  My e500 machine is making a LOT of excess noise in the bobbin area---again!! I have already had the machine in the shop twice since March for this problem. They say it is fixed but the problem arises again very soon.  The bobbin jerks and spins and makes a lot of noise. The stitching itself is acceptable (so far) but this kind of jerking and spinning cannot be good for the machine. Today, I am using 80 weight thread and a self-wound bobbin from the same spool, doing small 1/4" high lettering.  This noise happens whether I am using 40wt thread/bobbin or the thinner stuff. It sounds almost like sewing over broken glass. Very, very un-nerving.   I have done very little embroidering since I got the machine back about 5 weeks ago--maybe 4 hours' worth. But today, it is acting up terribly. I do oil on a regular schedule, once a month, and she was lubed at the shop a some weeks ago.  I have used a Magic Bobbin Genie underneath the bobbin, in the holder, but that does not seem to remedy the situation. (It is a small flat disc of Teflon supposed to make bobbins run more smoothly....)

Does anyone else have this problem with the e500 or other Janome machine?  Any and all comments appreciated.  
Kathy Strabel   Camas WA


Re: 500e Broken thread massage

a67skc70
 

On Thursday, July 15, 2021, 11:06:31 AM CDT, Kathy Strabel <ksbappa@...> wrote:


Never lost a sock from your washer or dryer??!! Well, you obviously did not go for the optional Singular Sock Sucker upgrade when you bought your appliances!  LOL
Kathy Strabel

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 9:08 AM a67skc70 <a67skc70@...> wrote:
I have never lost a sock in either the washer or the dryer. Actually I have never lost anything. lol
Linda



On Monday, July 5, 2021, 2:37:02 PM CDT, Cheryl Paul <capaul@...> wrote:


Oh! “The Singular Sock Sucker” in the dryer - I’m missing that (at least in recent years), but I have an “Over the Top Thrower” when I empty my dryer.  That one is bad as the dryer is in a tight space and I CAN’T move. it.  I read this post and to also to my husband and he laughed with me.  However, it reminded me of my MISSING sock.  He said, “It must be caught in a sleeve or pant leg.”  I assured him that it was NOT and told him about the “Over the Top Thrower” and he looked and rescued my sock for me.  I’ve got a wonderful man.

The other gremlin “Operatore Proximity Detector” has been in my machines a time or two.  Even the “Babysitter” Acumonitor APP doesn’t always catch those in time, as well as the right machine ie:  15000 or Skyline S9, has to be the machine left with that babysitter, for salvation.  You also need to be within WiFi distance as well.

Cheryl - Saskatoon






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Have a good one!
Kathy Strabel





Re: 500e Broken thread massage

Kathy Strabel
 

Never lost a sock from your washer or dryer??!! Well, you obviously did not go for the optional Singular Sock Sucker upgrade when you bought your appliances!  LOL
Kathy Strabel

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 9:08 AM a67skc70 <a67skc70@...> wrote:
I have never lost a sock in either the washer or the dryer. Actually I have never lost anything. lol
Linda



On Monday, July 5, 2021, 2:37:02 PM CDT, Cheryl Paul <capaul@...> wrote:


Oh! “The Singular Sock Sucker” in the dryer - I’m missing that (at least in recent years), but I have an “Over the Top Thrower” when I empty my dryer.  That one is bad as the dryer is in a tight space and I CAN’T move. it.  I read this post and to also to my husband and he laughed with me.  However, it reminded me of my MISSING sock.  He said, “It must be caught in a sleeve or pant leg.”  I assured him that it was NOT and told him about the “Over the Top Thrower” and he looked and rescued my sock for me.  I’ve got a wonderful man.

The other gremlin “Operatore Proximity Detector” has been in my machines a time or two.  Even the “Babysitter” Acumonitor APP doesn’t always catch those in time, as well as the right machine ie:  15000 or Skyline S9, has to be the machine left with that babysitter, for salvation.  You also need to be within WiFi distance as well.

Cheryl - Saskatoon






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Have a good one!
Kathy Strabel





Re: G5

Pixey
 

I actually found that even though the instructions said it would, our internet router was not smart enough to recognize which devices needed to connect using the 2.4 MHz signal and it kept dropping some devices.  We had to get tech support to set up 2 distinct wi-fi networks, named Pixey 2.4MHz and Pixey 5GHz, on our router so we could explicitly attach the less sophisticated devices to a dedicated lower signal.  Fortunately, the devices will still “talk” across the networks.  So I can send from my 5GHz connected iPad to my 2.4 MHz connected machines.

In addition to my sewing machines, my Kindle Paperwhite e-book readers and my Lennox digital thermostat are much more stable using the 2.4 MHz signal.

Pixey


On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Jim Stutsman via groups.io <onlinesewing@...> wrote:

Wireless internet via 5G has nothing to do with the WiFi used by Janome machines. It only changes how the Internet arrives in your house, not how devices connect. I've signed up for 5G Home Internet with T-Mobile, but won't have the equipment for a few weeks. It should be noted that routers currently sold support multiple frequencies of WiFi. Machines use the original 2.4MHz signal, which is standard on all devices. There is also a 5GHz signal on most newer devices. This 5 Gigahertz signal is NOT the 5G that is the latest fad. That 5G is a wireless signal from the mobile phone companies, and is used only to connect your home to the Internet. I expect the equipment will also support the older 2.4 signal in the home, as well as the faster 5 Gigahertz signal, but I won't know until I get it. The older 2.4 Megahertz signal travels farther than the 5 Gigahertz, but is slower. It's generally best to use the 5GHz signal if you can, which is what we use for everything except the machine.


Re: G5

Mary Jo Hirsch
 

Jim thanks you for helping.  I appreciate you and Diane 



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Wednesday, July 14, 2021, 3:04 PM -0500 from onlinesewing@... <onlinesewing@...>:

Wireless internet via 5G has nothing to do with the WiFi used by Janome machines. It only changes how the Internet arrives in your house, not how devices connect. I've signed up for 5G Home Internet with T-Mobile, but won't have the equipment for a few weeks. It should be noted that routers currently sold support multiple frequencies of WiFi. Machines use the original 2.4MHz signal, which is standard on all devices. There is also a 5GHz signal on most newer devices. This 5 Gigahertz signal is NOT the 5G that is the latest fad. That 5G is a wireless signal from the mobile phone companies, and is used only to connect your home to the Internet. I expect the equipment will also support the older 2.4 signal in the home, as well as the faster 5 Gigahertz signal, but I won't know until I get it. The older 2.4 Megahertz signal travels farther than the 5 Gigahertz, but is slower. It's generally best to use the 5GHz signal if you can, which is what we use for everything except the machine.


Re: G5

Jim Stutsman
 

Wireless internet via 5G has nothing to do with the WiFi used by Janome machines. It only changes how the Internet arrives in your house, not how devices connect. I've signed up for 5G Home Internet with T-Mobile, but won't have the equipment for a few weeks. It should be noted that routers currently sold support multiple frequencies of WiFi. Machines use the original 2.4MHz signal, which is standard on all devices. There is also a 5GHz signal on most newer devices. This 5 Gigahertz signal is NOT the 5G that is the latest fad. That 5G is a wireless signal from the mobile phone companies, and is used only to connect your home to the Internet. I expect the equipment will also support the older 2.4 signal in the home, as well as the faster 5 Gigahertz signal, but I won't know until I get it. The older 2.4 Megahertz signal travels farther than the 5 Gigahertz, but is slower. It's generally best to use the 5GHz signal if you can, which is what we use for everything except the machine.


G5

Mary Jo Hirsch
 

With g5 internet coming out will our 15000 v3 connect or will their be a solution from Janome other than new machine? Thanks in advance. --
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Re: oldie but goodie??? Cheryl

Roberta K
 

Related to the MC6600-

These posts made me curious to see how much they are selling for on EBay. I am quit surprised at how much they have kept their value! The 6600 is truly a gem.

While I was looking, I saw that there is also a 6650, which I have never heard of until now. It looks more like the 6700 than the 6600. Can anyone tell me anything about it?

Thanks,
Roberta in FL


Re: oldie but goodie???

xglsc1945@...
 

Thank you all for your help, now all I have to do is find my unicorn in the flesh =) spend some time with some tough samples, and make a decision.  Now where did I put that bag of jeans legs....

Linda


Re: oldie but goodie??? Cheryl

Pixey
 

Linda, 
The AcuFeed walking foot mechanism on the 6600P is not visible in the picture because it is not dependent on the needle bar driving the foot.  It is basically a pair of upper feed dogs that swing down from behind the needle bar and foot holder and hook into a specific foot.  You can see the 1/4 inch AcuFeed foot in the second photo at this link: 


This is the only machine that had this design for the walking foot approach.  On the one hand it is really stable and feeds over thicker areas like a dream.  However, with this design there is not a narrow feed option, which I suspect is why Janome moved to the AccuFlex system for subsequent machines.

Personally, I love the 6600P and have 2 of them.  I bought a second one as they were being retired as an actively produced machine a few years ago.  I have other newer sewing machines by Janome. But with its simplicity of use and power, the 6600P is my go-to machine to just sit down and sew with.  Plus, I find the 7mm feed dog configuration a little easier to use for smaller projects.

Pixey






On Jul 13, 2021, at 7:32 AM, xglsc1945@... wrote:

Cheryl I'm looking at pictures and do not see the walking foot mechanism?  Needle bar looks plain?  
Linda 


Re: oldie but goodie??? Cheryl

xglsc1945@...
 

Cheryl I'm looking at pictures and do not see the walking foot mechanism?  Needle bar looks plain?  
Linda 


Re: oldie but goodie???

wlstarn@aol.com
 

I think the 6700 is still being sold.  I got one in late 2019, and I've seen them at dealerships recently.  There's a 6700 Facebook group, and new people join every week when they first get their machines.  However, many dealers seem to have them on backorder, with waiting lists.


Re: oldie but goodie???

Cheryl Alm
 

I purchased a new 6500 just about 3 years ago, since it was an older model, it was available on the internet.  I actually purchased a 6500 back in 2005, but traded it in when the 6600 came available, even though the 6600 had the new built-in walking foot and a start/stop button, I always liked the 6500 best.  Both machines are workhorses and have the same footprint.  I use mine for most of my piecing, since my 15000 is usually busy embroidering.  I remember when I traded my 6500 the dealer gave me a hard time about the worn paint on the edges of the bed, especially the corners.  The new one does not seem to have that issue.  


From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> on behalf of Jim Stutsman via groups.io <onlinesewing@...>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 10:54 AM
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] oldie but goodie???
 
Yes, you've caught me in a memory lie! The 6500P was the predecessor to the 6600, and was in fact the one with paint issues. I once had one come in for repair that had been thrown out of a pickup truck in a traffic accident. It still sewed perfectly, but the aluminum body of the machine had cracked from impact. Replacement in such a case is not feasible, since the casting is not available as a part, and it would require removing virtually every part of the machine and installing in a new body.


Re: oldie but goodie???

Jim Stutsman
 

Yes, you've caught me in a memory lie! The 6500P was the predecessor to the 6600, and was in fact the one with paint issues. I once had one come in for repair that had been thrown out of a pickup truck in a traffic accident. It still sewed perfectly, but the aluminum body of the machine had cracked from impact. Replacement in such a case is not feasible, since the casting is not available as a part, and it would require removing virtually every part of the machine and installing in a new body.


Re: oldie but goodie???

xglsc1945@...
 

thank you Betsy.  
Linda


Re: oldie but goodie???

xglsc1945@...
 

sorry!  hit send too fast.  Jim was their a predecessor to the 6600 maybe a bit simpler?? but still with some extra stitches??

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