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Janome 1200D Serger

June E Hudspeth
 

Good Evening:

Hi to: Cheryl of Saskatoon 

I saw in a msg earlier today that you have a Janome Serger 1200D.  Are you happy with it?  Do you know of any good resources to provide help?  I've spent countless hours and found next to nothing on You Tube or the internet.  I signed up for a basic serger class from Craftsy and other than that, nothing.  Manual is OK, but not much wording.  I sure wish there was a workbook, just like they have with the 15000 Janome Sewing Machine.

Thanks for any info.

June


Re: 12000 Embroidery Arm Connection

Cheryl Alm
 

Thanks, Cheryl.   My friend and I no longer live close to one another.  She did take the machine to a local dealer.  She really loves her 12000 and is not interested in a learning curve on another model so she is set on finding another 12000.  Since the 12000 is no TOL they are available for online sales, so if she doesn't find one that has been preowned, she may go that route.
Thanks for your input.  The folks in this group are so helpful and kind. 
Cheryl - Ohio - USA  

From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> on behalf of Cheryl Paul <capaul@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 1:56 PM
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 12000 Embroidery Arm Connection
 
Hi Cheryl Alm,
Your friend has the 12000 and the embroidery arm for it is exactly the same as the one used on the 15000.  Those 2 machines also use the same hoops, so if she upgraded the RE hoop would be useful to her on the new machine.  She really should take the machine in to have the dealer look at it.  Perhaps if you live close you could go with her to help with a decision and to see that she isn't feed a "bill of goods" by them.  If they are a good honest people, she shouldn't have a problem, but we know that isn't always what happens in this world we live in.  

I also had a problem with my 12000 and the plug in point on the machine had some crushed holes in it and the pins would not fit, so the attachment would connect.  I had to have that cord replaced and it cost me over $100 USD to have repaired - I'm Canadian and was on holiday in the Arizona when this happened immediately when arriving and setting up my machine.  It took most of the month I was there to get the part, but at least the sewing machine sewed and Mulqueen's help my place in the cue so that I could go to classes and sew.  While there I had a another catastrophe when the upper looper snapped off on my 1200D Serger - that I had fixed when I got back home to Saskatoon - that one warranty covered, so I dodged a bullet there.

Cheryl - Saskatoon


Re: Hand look stitch

Tracy
 

Carole-

I've used 100wt thread on many quilts that have been washed and dried and ironed.  Never has the thread been an issue.  I don't use the highest heat on my iron any longer since I've got wool pressing surfaces and also use Best Press which can scorch your fabrics if your iron is too hot.  But I love the smell of my Best Press so I just turn my iron down to a med-hot temp and all is well.  But again - 100wt thread is not an issue for what I've made.  I use the Wonderfil (Invisifil) brand.

Tracy in Nashville, TN

Martha Pullen Licensed Educator


Re: 12000 Embroidery Arm Connection

Cheryl Paul
 

Hi Cheryl Alm,
Your friend has the 12000 and the embroidery arm for it is exactly the same as the one used on the 15000.  Those 2 machines also use the same hoops, so if she upgraded the RE hoop would be useful to her on the new machine.  She really should take the machine in to have the dealer look at it.  Perhaps if you live close you could go with her to help with a decision and to see that she isn't feed a "bill of goods" by them.  If they are a good honest people, she shouldn't have a problem, but we know that isn't always what happens in this world we live in.  

I also had a problem with my 12000 and the plug in point on the machine had some crushed holes in it and the pins would not fit, so the attachment would connect.  I had to have that cord replaced and it cost me over $100 USD to have repaired - I'm Canadian and was on holiday in the Arizona when this happened immediately when arriving and setting up my machine.  It took most of the month I was there to get the part, but at least the sewing machine sewed and Mulqueen's help my place in the cue so that I could go to classes and sew.  While there I had a another catastrophe when the upper looper snapped off on my 1200D Serger - that I had fixed when I got back home to Saskatoon - that one warranty covered, so I dodged a bullet there.

Cheryl - Saskatoon


Re: Hand look stitch

Ceil J
 

I have used 100wt from both Superior Threads (Microquilter) and Invisifil.  Using them for quilting designs and stitch in the ditch has been wonderful.  I have ironed them with no issues.  Ceil


Re: Hand look stitch

Donna Morton
 

I doubt that the invisifil thread will melt under a type home iron. Polyester is heat resistant. Perhaps the quilt shop was thinking about nylon thread which will melt at a much lower temperature.

DonnaM
Canada
Http://www.snipandstitch.com


Re: 12000 Embroidery Arm Connection

Cheryl Alm
 

Thank you so much for checking on this.  My friend has moved since she purchased her machine and she is working with a different dealer and was fearful that she was being misguided. She is older and not really wanting to learn a new machine especially since she has purchased the RE hoop and other accessories.  I'll let her know what you were able to find out.  Thanks again for your time and thoughtfulness. 


From: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io> on behalf of Steve <stevennelda@...>
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 6:27:26 AM
To: onlinesewing-janome@groups.io <onlinesewing-janome@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [onlinesewing-janome] 12000 Embroidery Arm Connection
 
I work as a Janome authorized technician.  Yesterday I looked to see if this part was available but it cannot be ordered.  The only way to get it is by removing it from a donor machine.  There isn’t even a part number for it.  Sorry and I hope you find what you need for your friend.

steve


Re: Hand look stitch

Carole O'Mara
 

I asked at my local quilt shop and they advised not to use the 100wt if the quilt is to be ironed after washing as the thread is very fine and will melt.  This is a double bed sized quilt and it is for my granddaughter.  It will probably need washing at some point and possibly need ironing.  Could a low setting on the iron (silk or wool) and a light pressure be enough to keep from melting the 100wt?

Thanks,
Carole





On Nov 5, 2020, at 8:21 PM, Tracy <TJOriginals@...> wrote:

Carole-

Yes, your plan should work.  I've used 100wt Invisifil on several machines when quilting.  It disappears so you don't have to change thread all the time to match colors of your fabric which is totally awesome in my book.  You'll still want to use an 80/12 needle due to the layers altho with the weight of the thread you could use a thinner/smaller one otherwise.

Have fun!

Tracy in Nashville, TN

Martha Pullen Licensed Educator



Re: 12000 Embroidery Arm Connection

Steve
 

I work as a Janome authorized technician.  Yesterday I looked to see if this part was available but it cannot be ordered.  The only way to get it is by removing it from a donor machine.  There isn’t even a part number for it.  Sorry and I hope you find what you need for your friend.

steve


Re: Hand look stitch

Tracy
 

Carole-

Yes, your plan should work.  I've used 100wt Invisifil on several machines when quilting.  It disappears so you don't have to change thread all the time to match colors of your fabric which is totally awesome in my book.  You'll still want to use an 80/12 needle due to the layers altho with the weight of the thread you could use a thinner/smaller one otherwise.

Have fun!

Tracy in Nashville, TN

Martha Pullen Licensed Educator


Re: Hand look stitch

Anne Parker
 

I haven't used the stitches like that, but I have tried them with two different coloured threads - black in top and red in bottom (I think).  I thought it looked great and still hand stitched but with two different colours.

I haven't actually used them for a project, but it is on my list to use - somewhere where I might use a normal decorative stitch!

Anne
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Re: Hand look stitch

Cheryl Alm
 

I have not used it for the hand look stitch, but I’ve used that thread combo for machine appliqué.  I use a Microtex size 60 or 70.  I’m not a fan of even the best brands of monofilament.
Cheryl


On Nov 4, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Carole O'Mara <caroleinco@...> wrote:

I will be quilting using the hand look stitch on the 15000, top, backing and 80/20 batting.  Instead of using monofilament in the top I'm wondering if I can use Invisiline 100 wt in the top with 50wt in the bobbin.  I've used monofilament in the past for the same purpose but do not like working with monofilament.  Has anyone used the 100wt top and 50 wt bobbin?  

Thanks,
Carole


Re: 12000 Embroidery Arm Connection

Cheryl Alm
 

Thanks, Jim, for that information and explaining it so well.   I’ll pass it on to my friend.  
Cheryl


On Nov 4, 2020, at 10:07 PM, Jim Stutsman via groups.io <onlinesewing@...> wrote:

The part itself was probably manufactured specifically for Janome by a company in Japan. The cost of creating parts like this is high - engineering, prototyping, molds, etc. On devices like TVs and computers that cost is spread out over hundreds of thousands of devices, so it’s pretty low. High end sewing machines are nowhere near that kind of volume, so the part price will be substantially higher. Say it was $100, just for the sake of argument. It’s a part that almost never fails on its own, so they don’t stock it in the various Janome country offices. That leaves no option except to replace the entire embroidery unit. Even if you could get someone in Japan to source the part, package and air ship it, the cost would be quite high. Your best option might be to try and find a machine that has been damaged beyond repair, and could be cannibalizes for parts. That’s unlikely. I would suggest contacting Janome technical support directly and seeing whether they might be able to do something.


Re: 12000 Embroidery Arm Connection

Anne Stoye
 

At some stage I would expect the dealer to get a 12000 as a trade in with other things the matter and unrepairable or not worth repairing (I thought my machine might be nearing that stage last week but it has been reprieved) and spare parts can be harvested.  But there is a point when it is not worth spending a lot of money on repairing an ageing and well-used machine relative to the cost of a replacement.  I was considering the Atelier/Skyline 9 if my 12000 was to be written off.  I don’t do or need mega size embroidery and I think this machine would have ticked all my boxes. 

 

Anne


Re: 12000 Embroidery Arm Connection

Jim Stutsman
 

The part itself was probably manufactured specifically for Janome by a company in Japan. The cost of creating parts like this is high - engineering, prototyping, molds, etc. On devices like TVs and computers that cost is spread out over hundreds of thousands of devices, so it’s pretty low. High end sewing machines are nowhere near that kind of volume, so the part price will be substantially higher. Say it was $100, just for the sake of argument. It’s a part that almost never fails on its own, so they don’t stock it in the various Janome country offices. That leaves no option except to replace the entire embroidery unit. Even if you could get someone in Japan to source the part, package and air ship it, the cost would be quite high. Your best option might be to try and find a machine that has been damaged beyond repair, and could be cannibalizes for parts. That’s unlikely. I would suggest contacting Janome technical support directly and seeing whether they might be able to do something.


12000 Embroidery Arm Connection

Cheryl Alm
 

I’m making an inquiry for a friend who owns a 12000.  I’m including a photo of the connection on her machine where the embroidery arm connects.  It’s easy to see the damage.  She has been told that this part cannot be ordered and she would have to purchase a new embroidery unit that would cost approximately $1,500.00.  She was then told that she would be better off to upgrade to a newer machine.  Just looking for opinions since she felt like they were more interested in selling a machine instead of ordering a part.  Thanks for any insight.


Hand look stitch

Carole O'Mara
 

I will be quilting using the hand look stitch on the 15000, top, backing and 80/20 batting.  Instead of using monofilament in the top I'm wondering if I can use Invisiline 100 wt in the top with 50wt in the bobbin.  I've used monofilament in the past for the same purpose but do not like working with monofilament.  Has anyone used the 100wt top and 50 wt bobbin?  

Thanks,
Carole


Re: Transfer built-in stitches?

Cheryl Paul
 

Jan,

If you already have a Q001 in your software, rename the file I sent you so that you don’t overwrite a file that has been put in your software as it might be important to you. I’m not sure if you can use the file or not, but I thought I’d give it a try, after all we can create stitches so why wouldn’t we be able to copy them and both machines are 9mm, so that shouldn’t be a problem.

Good Luck.

Cheryl - Saskatoon


Re: Transfer built-in stitches?

Cheryl Paul
 

I copied a stitch from my Stitch Composer for the S9 or Continental M7. I’ll attach it. Check it out and see if this is what you are looking for. It is Q001 in my AcuTools S program. You should have a program like that for your Skyline S7, I think. But you definitely should be able to load it into your Horizon Link. If you don’t have a program for your S7, I don’t know how you could get it into your machine.

I definitely want to know how you make out, so please keep this thread going.

Cheryl - Saskatoon


Re: Transfer built-in stitches?

favymtz
 

No you cannot transfer a built-in decorative stitch out of the machine into your computer to then transfer it into another machine.
However, because I have both a 12000 and 15000 machine and the accompanying software programs, Horizon Link and Horizon Link Suite; I was able to take the serpentine stitch out of the HLS Stitch Composer built in stitches and put it in my 12000. 
I have attached the file to this email, and hopefully it sends okay.
Another option is to design your own Serpentine Stitch using your Stitch Composer, Years ago, Diane Stutsman gave an instruction sheet for doing so and I've attached it.
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Favymtz

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